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Sagittaire
26th May 2010, 16:30
I have really better result here for Ateme with 2008 core

poisondeathray
26th May 2010, 16:48
I have really better result here for Ateme with 2008 core

why don't you upload it and add it to the comparison?

CruNcher
29th May 2010, 02:17
why don't you upload it and add it to the comparison?

I guess NDA doesn't allow him too

shon3i
30th May 2010, 17:47
@Sagittaire encoder used here is same as you have. its same generation.

CruNcher
30th May 2010, 19:37
It's not the same, or does your encoder have a INSANE mode ;)

shon3i
30th May 2010, 19:58
have, but i didn't manage to use it with 2pass RC. Some options are locked for single pass/VBR mode only. Since i aim to target bitrate/size, i use max possible settings for 2pass. Anyway difference between Insane and Ultra is real placebo, and waste of time.

julius666
5th June 2010, 11:32
when will the comparison start?

Dark Shikari
5th June 2010, 11:45
when will the comparison start?Sorry; been unexpectedly busy with work and some other things. I'll try to get back to it soon.

EricJ2190
16th June 2010, 17:57
Do you already have a Microsoft Expression Encoder Pro 3 H.264 sample? I don't see one in this thread, so I am working on one myself.

I'm done encoding. For a two-pass encoder, it doesn't do a very good job of maintaining the desired average bitrate.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ydgnetqrejo - 17,353,687 bytes

Settings
Output Format: MP4
Video: H.264 Main
Audio: Disabled
Mode: VBR Unconstrained
Frame Rate: Source
Key Frame Interval: 5 seconds
Average Bitrate: 15000 Kbps
Size Mode: Source
Width: 1920
Height: 1080
Video Aspect Ratio: Source
Force Square Pixels: Disabled
Resize Mode: Letterbox

H.264 Settings
Complexity: Best (5)
Number Of Reference Frames: 15
B-Frame Number: 7
Search Range: 64
Entropy Mode: CABAC
ME Partition Level: 4x4
Threads Used: Auto
Force 16 pixel dimensions: Disabled
In-Loop Filter: Enabled
RD Optimization: Enabled

filetree
19th June 2010, 03:41
The Quicktime video appears to have completely screwed up brightness...

Ptalabvorm added.

It's actually a gamma thing. There's a decent workaround (that requires QTPro) but it's still []. It sucks that there are a lot of good broadcast/live hardware that will only allow video in .mov format.
Unless I'm mistaken x264 cannot be held in an mov container.


What about Sorenson3 codec? As old as it is, it is sadly still being used a lot of places.

nakTT
19th June 2010, 19:06
Hi Dark,

Can we expect to see SIF1 v1.10 in the comparison?

:thanks:

hellfred
19th June 2010, 22:29
I have created an up to date theora ptalarbvorm clip:
park_joy_V13600_softtarget.ogv (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jtldzjk2gdn/park_joy_V13600_softtarget.ogv)
command used:
ffmpeg2theora-ptalarbvorm.exe --no-skeleton --speedlevel 0 --soft-target -K 250 -V 13600 --two-pass --noaudio park_joy_1080p.y4m
Binary from:
http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/theora-dev/2010-June/004164.html
Changes to the theora encoder, which might have had an impact on the video quality since the first theora ptalarbvorm clip provided at page #1:
18.05.2010: https://trac.xiph.org/changeset/17231/experimental/derf/theora-ptalarbvorm
04.06.2010: https://trac.xiph.org/changeset/17275/experimental/derf/theora-ptalarbvorm

hellfred
19th June 2010, 22:41
Is there still no VP8 clip available for comparison? Or will DS create one when he starts the evaluation, as some bug fixes are checked in into the libvpx codebase each week?

Blue_MiSfit
21st June 2010, 19:56
I'm assuming the Ateme v2 test was generated by KFE v2? If not, I have an evaluation version coming in-house later this week and would be happy to contribute :)

Derek

vtest
23rd June 2010, 02:49
If submissions are still open, here is a file encoded using Snow:
http://www.archive.org/download/snow_test/park_joy_1080p_snow.avi

CruNcher
24th June 2010, 16:39
Mainconcept VC-1 Encoder 8.5.0.14575 Advanced Profile L4
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zo3twonamqh

Microsoft Expression Encoder 4 (Conservative Adaptive Deadzone) Advanced Profile L4 2 pass CBR
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ivjjwzmwztq

Blue_MiSfit
25th June 2010, 12:25
I'll also be getting an evaluation unit of Elemental Technology's enterprise encoding server. If this comparison still isn't finished when I get this, I'll definitely run through a test! I'm expecting big lulz if Baddaboom is even remotely indicative of their enterprise performance.

Their pitch was COMEDY, they tried to tell me that there was no software solution that could transcode to H.264 in real-time for 1080p. I told them to look at x264 ;)

Derek

CruNcher
26th June 2010, 13:39
Hehe i always wanted to belive that their PRO stuff is better nice to see if that finally is true ;)

Blue_MiSfit
26th June 2010, 23:21
@CruNcher:

I'm not sure it is any better!! They claim to be able to do 12 simultaneous 720p30 encodes on a 1RU server with 2x dual GT200 boards (i.e. 4 GT200s). As always marketing is such a broad oversimplification :(

Derek

Adub
27th June 2010, 02:06
You know, maybe then can do 12 simultaneous encodes. To complete crap quality. X264 in Ultra fast can do some pretty amazing things too when it comes to speed. ;)

Blue_MiSfit
27th June 2010, 05:33
I'm well aware :)

shark37
8th September 2010, 20:51
Much better snow encoding, at least without ghosting artefacts.

park_joy_1080p-snow-qp_11.avi (http://www.mediafire.com/file/oiwliid1x18x3r8/park_joy_1080p-snow-qp_11.avi)
Size: 17,556,882
FFmpeg version SVN-r24986
ffmpeg -i park_joy_1080p.y4m -vcodec snow -strict -2 -qscale 11 -cmp satd -mbcmp satd -subcmp satd -me_method iter -refs 4 -y foo.avi

Credits for command line go to akupenguin.