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WildTexasChef
15th February 2010, 00:56
The LG BD390 is a networked Media Player enhanced Blu-ray player.

If I rip a Blu-ray and then burn another blu-ray It (Bd390) will play and show the subtitles without issue.

The BD390 however has a media player built in. It can play files directly from a USB hard drive or from a DLNA certified server.

Printed directly from the manual the following are it's supported file types...

Movie file compatibility with this player is limited as follows:
Available resolution size: 1920 x 1080 (W x H) pixels
File extensions: “.avi”, “.divx”, “.mpg”, “.mpeg”, “.mp4”, “.mkv”, “.M2TS”
Playable subtitle: SubRip (.srt / .txt), SAMI (.smi),
SubStation Alpha (.ssa/.txt), MicroDVD (.sub/.txt), VobSub (.sub)
SubViewer 1.0 (.sub), SubViewer 2.0 (.sub/.txt), TMPlayer (.txt),
DVD Subtitle System (.txt)
Playable Codec format: “DIVX3.xx”, “DIVX4.xx”, “DIVX5.xx”, “XVID”,
“DIVX6.xx” (Standard playback only), H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, DIVX-HD,
MPEG1 SS, MPEG2 PS, MPEG2 TS
Playable Audio format: “Dolby Digital”, “DTS”, “MP3”, “WMA”, “AAC”,
“AC3”
Sampling frequency: within 32-48 kHz (WMA), within 16-48 kHz (MP3)
Bit rate: within 20-320 kbps (WMA), within 32-320 kbps (MP3)
CD-R/RW, DVD±R/RW, BD-R/RE Format:
ISO 9660+JOLIET, UDF and UDF Bridge format
Maximum Files/Folder: Less than 2000
• The movie file name and subtitle are limited to 180 characters.
• Not all the WMA and AAC Audio format is compatible with this unit.
• HD movie files contained on the CD or USB 1.0/1.1 may not played
properly. BD, DVD or USB 2.0 are recommended to play back HD
movie files.
• This player support H.264/MPEG-4 AVC profile Main, High at Level 4.1.
For a file with higher level, the player will ask whether you want to play
or not.
• This player does not support the file that are recorded with GMC*1 or
Qpel*2. Those are video encoding techniques in MPEG4 standard, like
DivX or XVID have.
*1 GMC – Global Motion Compensation
*2 Qpel – Quarter pixel

• If there are more than 1 subtitle files at a folder, displaying priority is as follow:
Priority High <--------------->Low
file extension “.smi” “.sub” “.srt” “.txt” “.ssa”

So as far as I understand it. The BD390 won't show subtitles if the subtitle track is "muxed" into the container & therefore has to be a seperate file.

My question... is/does anyone out there have a LG BD390 that they are using & they getting any subtitles to work. If so HOW are you getting them to work? What containers are you using? What subtitle format/files are you using & how are you creating/ripping them from a Blu-ray?

Any help in this area would greatly be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

WTC

P.S. I have created Sub, SRT subtitle files and had those in the same folder with the same file name as a MKV & M2TS file. When I played either the MKV or M2TS movie file, neither showed any of the subtitles from either type of file. (Sub, or SRT)
setarip_old
15th February 2010, 03:51
Hi!So as far as I understand it. The BD390 won't show subtitles if the subtitle track is "muxed" into the container & therefore has to be a seperate file. No, I don't own a BD390 but, since there's nothing in the documentation that you've posted that indicates it won't properly display muxed subtitles, try it...
WildTexasChef
18th February 2010, 03:27
Hi! No, I don't own a BD390 but, since there's nothing in the documentation that you've posted that indicates it won't properly display muxed subtitles, try it...

I have tried remuxing the subtitle back into both a M2TS file as well as an MKV file. It won't play the subtitles that are muxed into a MKV or M2TS file.

It also won't play them if the subtitle files are seperate from the M2TS or MKV file.

I haven't come across any information on how to encode a MPG2-HD file with Subtitles. I know it can be done somehow as TiVo's and other HD DVR's encode closed captioning into MPG2-HD files as well as MP4 files also can include a CC track.
I haven't found any information on how to create a MPG2 or MPG4 file with the subtitle converted into a CC track either.

TGC
Ghitulescu
18th February 2010, 08:53
I don't know the LG390, but my experience tells me that most if not all players that accept external video files (ie not part of a VCD/DVD/BD structure) generally take the subtitles from an external, separate file, that have to have the extension as indicated in the aforementioned list. Additionally, the subtitle file has to bear the same name, maybe with the language code at the end in case of multiple languages, as the main movie. The simple fact that the specs indicate the extension of the subtitles is a strong argument supporting this opinion.
setarip_old
18th February 2010, 10:15
@WildTexasChef

Once again, a simple Googlesearch yielded the following:

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/lg-bd390-bluray-player-w-mkv-x264-support-questions-answered-t375787.html

Subtitle support is it's weak point so far. Maybe firmware upgrades will address the problems in the future.
SRT has the best support. It can be external or in the MKV container. Works great. Good sync.
WildTexasChef
23rd February 2010, 11:06
@WildTexasChef

Once again, a simple Googlesearch yielded the following:

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/lg-bd390-bluray-player-w-mkv-x264-support-questions-answered-t375787.html



Well I have tried about every possible combination. Inside, outside etc.. but haven't gotten anything to work. At all.

Anybody have an idea how to convert the subtitle tracks, (Which I know are actual video) into an actual Closed Captioning stream track that can be read by TV's?

I know it works with TV's on properly encoded MPG2, H.264 and MP4 files that are played by HDTV's that have a USB port for playing Digital media.

WTC
Ghitulescu
23rd February 2010, 13:19
There is of course the possibility to convert (maybe only to remux) the movies into a "legal" format, like DVD bzw. BD.

Concerning CC, these are not what you think they are, their bitrate is not enough to sustain a spoken dialogue, they are ok for action movies where the hero shots not speak.
WildTexasChef
11th March 2010, 02:26
I have gotten it to work with TEXT SRT subtitle files

The subtitle file has to be converted into the Txt version of SRT, SUB.

All the OCR I have tried really suck when the subtitle's are in italics. It only converted maybe 10% of the characters in "Angels & Demons". Thus really making it unusable. Some other movies I got it to have maybe a 98% accuracy. But Still not very good on OCR work.

Oh well. Will have to hold out when OCR gets better. Or for them to update the firmware. Maybe the new BD590 will be better.

TGC
WildTexasChef
11th March 2010, 02:28
There is of course the possibility to convert (maybe only to remux) the movies into a "legal" format, like DVD bzw. BD.

Concerning CC, these are not what you think they are, their bitrate is not enough to sustain a spoken dialogue, they are ok for action movies where the hero shots not speak.

I am not for sure what your talking about?

The unit plays MPG2, MP4 (H.264) they can be in MKV containers, or in M2TS containers. So I have no clue as to what your talking about???

TGC