Audio Only AVCHD Disc Authouring

[deank]

It will be really simple, because I'll add an option "use AUDIO tracks only" and "create audioBD" button, along with "HD audio priority" (it will affect both video and audio only compilations).

It will allow those of you who own BD concerts to safely add their video files, but only audio will be used for the final compilation.

I'll issue another version soon that will include support for aac/ac3/pcm/lpcm/dts/HD audio (DD/DTS). It is the MPL files that delay all.

[deank]

I got another GREAT :D idea, inspired by this old PSX interface

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/Dvd_xmb_img02_pop.jpg

I'm thinking of expanding the current XMB-styled menu in multiAVCHD to a more featured one, using really XMB style to browse not just UP and DOWN but LEFT and RIGHT.

This way it can get as the real XMB and you can chose what content to play.

XMBar may contain [exit icon] [pictures icon] [audio icon] [video icon].

This way the user can have pictures/HD audio tracks and HD videos in one AVCHD compilation.

Of course I'll need to check how to make browsable slideshow, but we'll get there ;)

Let me know what you think.

[keysersose]

I got another GREAT :D idea.

I'm thinking of expanding the current XMB-styled menu in multiAVCHD to a more featured one, using really XMB style to browse not just UP and DOWN but LEFT and RIGHT.

This way it can get as the real XMB and you can chose what content to play.

XMBar may contain [exit icon] [pictures icon] [audio icon] [video icon].

This way the user can have pictures/HD audio tracks and HD videos in one AVCHD compilation.

Of course I'll need to check how to make browsable slideshow, but we'll get there ;)

Let me know what you think.

sure is cool with me..anything that gives us professional looking results is fine with me..

Personally I have no plans to add anything other than audio tracks to whatever discs I make - I just want to stick a disc in my BR player and get hires 5.1 music..

however others like adding artwork or will want things like slideshows or adding the lyrics which match the songs as they play..

me..just the music..and I'd rather stick to a single DVD5 - the extra video content could push the size up to a DVD9..

[The1n]

I'd rather post it here, so other people can use it too.

Here is 2 hours (120 mins) blank 720x480p AVC video @24fps.

Download it - black_h264_video.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/black_h264_video.rar) - it is just 31KB, but unpacked is about 5MB.

Use it with tsmuxer and add your audio tracks, then tsmuxer will generate the output you need, cutting video to audio track length.

Let me know if it works for you :)

Dean

Hi Deank,

Is there any possibility that you can explain how you make this video track with avisynth/x264. Example with different fps's.

Thank you also for all your contribution on these forums.

The1n

[deank]

Sure.. it is a simple AviSynth script:

here is 120sec black 1280x720 @ 23.976

blankclip(24*120, width=1280, height=720, fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, pixel_type="YV12")


here is 60sec red 1440x1080 @ 23.976

blankclip(24*60, width=1440, height=1080, fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, pixel_type="YV12", color=$900000)


You can use fps and fps_denominator to select framerate.

For example:

fps=30000, fps_denominator=1001 for 29.970
fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001 for 23.976
fps=24000, fps_denominator=1000 for 24.000
fps=24 for 24.000
fps=25 for 25.000

etc...

Here is the Wiki page. (http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/BlankClip)

[The1n]

@Deank

Thank you very much, works a charm.

Regards
The1n

[odin24]

Could anyone recommend how I could re-process a DVD-A to BDaudio? The sturcture of the DVD-A has AOBs in the Audio_TS folder. I used EVOdemux, which does recognize the 96/24 MLP, I demuxed to MLP, LPCM, PCM, none of which allowed me to create a BDAudio disc using the 96/24 LPCM tracks.

Eac3to would not recognize them as PCM tracks either, however pcm2tsmu did create a tsMuxeR compatible PCM file from the EVODemuxed files, which only created static when I tried to play on my PS3. My audio set up does support 96/24 through HDMI.

Thanks.

[keysersose]

Could anyone recommend how I could re-process a DVD-A to BDaudio? The sturcture of the DVD-A has AOBs in the Audio_TS folder. I used EVOdemux, which does recognize the 96/24 MLP, I demuxed to MLP, LPCM, PCM, none of which allowed me to create a BDAudio disc using the 96/24 LPCM tracks.

Eac3to would not recognize them as PCM tracks either, however pcm2tsmu did create a tsMuxeR compatible PCM file from the EVODemuxed files, which only created static when I tried to play on my PS3. My audio set up does support 96/24 through HDMI.

Thanks.

use DVD-A Explorer to extract the 24/96 MLP files - use eac3toGUI to convert them to LPCM and then make the avchd using Tsmuxer..

[deltec]

I do classical recordings in pcm 24 bits 88khz or 96 Khz they could be 2 channel stereo or multichannel 5.1 always in pcm, could I create a BD or AVCHD disc with the originals files in pcm and play it on samsung 2500 ?

[keysersose]

I do classical recordings in pcm 24 bits 88khz or 96 Khz they could be 2 channel stereo or multichannel 5.1 always in pcm, could I create a BD or AVCHD disc with the originals files in pcm and play it on samsung 2500 ?

yes to both questions..

The 2500 does support AVCHD discs

[deltec]

Thank keysersose but reading original spec from the site of ACVHD they says that linear PCM is supported for a max of 1,5Mbts, that means 16 bits 48 khz, not 24bits 88Khz as I need!!

[keysersose]

Thank keysersose but reading original spec from the site of ACVHD they says that linear PCM is supported for a max of 1,5Mbts, that means 16 bits 48 khz, not 24bits 88Khz as I need!!

I was able to take a retail DVD-A disc with tracks being 24/96, convert it to LPCM and it played fine on my PS3 and displayed it LPCM 24/96...

Dolby TrueHD on bluray is either 24/48 or 24/96 and there is no problem playing these as AVCHD discs..

[deank]

To revive this topic :)

I added some experimental/initial support for audio titles in multiAVCHD (as I promised few months ago). You can now create audio-AVCHD / audioBD discs.

Currently, mlp/mp2/mp3/ac3/dts/wav/pcm/lpcm/flac formats are supported. (certain restrictions apply <=4GB for MLP and FLAC->LPCM)

You can create a compilation:

* with or without menu
* with chapter marks in each song (for faster browsing)
* with black background for each audio title
* with custom background + Title name + Duration for each title (as in the screenshot attached below)
* and have tracks play sequentially
* and quit / loop playback after the last title
* Poster image can be used for audio-title background
* Custom chapters can be loaded/edited for audio-title
* Language ID for audio track can be changed

FLAC will be converted to AC3 if "TrueHD to LPCM" option is not checked, otherwise it will be converted to LPCM (a better way to keep its quality).

MLP (Meridian) will be converted to WAV/LPCM (4GB limit per title).

DTS, AC3, WAV, PCM/LPCM are not reprocessed/reencoded but added 'as is'.

MP3/MP2/FLAC files are reencoded to AC3/LPCM and sampling rate is changed to 48000 if not reported or if < 48000.

Dean

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_audioBD.jpg

[14:53:33] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.0 (build 652)
[14:53:33] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[14:53:33] Processing 34 titles...
[14:53:33] Preprocessing audio title (D:\_CDs_Backup\Astral\Astral Projection - 01 Ionized.mp3).
[14:53:33] Preparing audio title background (PAL).
[14:53:33] Encoding background (x264)...
[14:53:36] Processing audio...
[14:53:36] Converting audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[14:53:43] Muxing...
[14:53:44] Completed...

[14:53:44] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[14:53:44] Processing playlist...
[14:53:44] Title #1 added: "Astral Projection - 01 Ionized"
[14:53:44] Verifying title...
[14:53:49] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

...

[15:06:55] Compiling menu pages...
[15:08:53] Authoring custom menu completed.
[15:08:53] Setting menu for 34 titles...
[15:08:53] Playback will end after title #34.
[15:08:53] Setting menu properties...
[15:08:53] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[15:08:54] Completed.
[15:08:55] Renaming files to FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[15:08:55] Done!

[15:08:57] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[15:08:57] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Astral\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
===============================================================================
1. Astral Projection - 01 Ionized [00:07:23]
2. Astral Projection - 01 Solid elctroincs [00:07:43]
3. Astral Projection - 02 Andromeda [00:09:32]
4. Astral Projection - 02 Zero [00:05:53]
5. Astral Projection - 03 Enlightened Evolu [00:07:22]
6. Astral Projection - 03 Power Gen (Live S [00:07:44]
7. Astral Projection - 04 Channeling [00:04:00]
8. Astral Projection - 04 Free Tibet [00:07:40]
9. Astral Projection - 05 Maian Dream [00:07:02]
10. Astral Projection - 06 Kabalah (New Age [00:09:05]
11. Astral Projection - 07 Ten Minutes to Su [00:07:09]
12. Astral Projection - 07 Time Began With T [00:07:24]
13. Astral Projection - 08 Analog voyager [00:09:40]
14. Astral Projection - 08 Utopia (Concept r [00:07:48]
15. Astral Projection - 09 12000 Suns [00:12:10]
16. Astral Projection - 09 Electronic [00:09:04]
17. Astral Projection - 10 Ambience [00:05:27]
18. Astral Projection - Another World - 01 - [00:09:26]
19. Astral Projection - Another World - 02 - [00:06:54]
20. Astral Projection - Another World - 03 - [00:08:57]
21. Astral Projection - Another World - 04 - [00:10:25]
22. Astral Projection - Another World - 05 - [00:09:51]
23. Astral Projection - Another World - 06 - [00:09:32]
24. Astral Projection - Another World - 07 - [00:08:22]
25. Astral Projection - Another World - 08 - [00:08:34]
26. Astral Projection - Another World - 09 - [00:07:32]
27. Astral Projection 01-Dancing Galaxy [00:09:16]
28. Astral Projection 02-Soundform [00:08:11]
29. Astral Projection 03-Flying Into a Star [00:09:45]
30. Astral Projection 04-No One Ever Dreams [00:08:24]
31. Astral Projection 05-Cosmic Ascension (f [00:10:19]
32. Astral Projection 06-Life on Mars [00:09:08]
33. Astral Projection 07-Liquid Sun [00:11:00]
34. Astral Projection 08-Ambient Galaxy (dis [00:06:11]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 04:43:53
Output size : 1516 MiB (1.48 GiB)

[15:08:57] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Astral folder created!
[15:08:57] Rename D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Astral to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB drive or USB disk.
[15:08:57] You may now remove temp folder (D:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\).
[15:08:57] Your compilation contains 4hrs 43min 53sec of video material.

[15:08:57] multiAVCHD finished in 924 seconds (00:15:24)!

[15:08:57] End of log.

[7saigon5]

Your program said it has been expired this built 693+....Please advise!At this current it worked fine(built 691) and if you should make decent like this then I will be happy and support you the author....

[jolson]

Regarding MLP, as far as I know the difference between MLP and TrueHD is just the header. The data itself is exactly the same. So it should be possible to 'convert' MLP to TrueHD.

MLP and TrueHD are exaclty same.
Only there are on TrueHD file some data information (room size, sort of audio:music,...; ..)

ScenaristBD/BluPrint/DSA see MLP file like TrueHD audio track ;)
So it should be not only possible, but practically doable, to convert MLP to TrueHD by adding just that header information...? And save 40-50% of space over uncompressed PCM.

I guess there's no public spec over the TrueHD format...?

But, if the header is small, one could try to find out the necessary information with just a hex editor. Or, even better, does anyone have the same track both as MLP and TrueHD?

[keysersose]

to revive this topic again..:)

I have been using TSMuxerGUI to make avchd discs with a DTS-MA audio track

have been playing fine on my PS3

I bought the new Denon flagdhip player - it will play the discs but I cannot:

1-see any details on screen
2-fast forward
3-chapter skip

I can live without 1 and 2 but really want to be able to skip tracks

Is Tsmuxer specific to make discs only for the PS3?

any ideas on what to do for the Denon player?

Dean: I have tried everything using your MultiAvchd with no success at all

Thanks

[deank]

I've done 10ths of audio compilations and they all work just fine. I'm not sure what is causing your trouble.

[keysersose]

I uploaded a full album and sent you the links

if you can, please download it - add in the chapter marks with it and let me know if you make a working avchd

Thanks

[keysersose]

to revive this topic again..:)

I have been using TSMuxerGUI to make avchd discs with a DTS-MA audio track

have been playing fine on my PS3

I bought the new Denon flagdhip player - it will play the discs but I cannot:

1-see any details on screen
2-fast forward
3-chapter skip

I can live without 1 and 2 but really want to be able to skip tracks

Is Tsmuxer specific to make discs only for the PS3?

any ideas on what to do for the Denon player?

Dean: I have tried everything using your MultiAvchd with no success at all

Thanks

I was able to get the discs to work on the Denon by creating a blank video file that is 1080P..the original one I was using was 480x720..

:)

[deank]

I uploaded a full album and sent you the links

if you can, please download it - add in the chapter marks with it and let me know if you make a working avchd

Thanks

I'll try it tomorrow :)

[jolson]

I was able to get the discs to work on the Denon by creating a blank video file that is 1080P..the original one I was using was 480x720..
:)
So if I have one of your BD's and want it to be playable in a stand-alone BD player, how do I reauthor it?

[keysersose]

So if I have one of your BD's and want it to be playable in a stand-alone BD player, how do I reauthor it?

does the disc not play presently?

[jolson]

does the disc not play presently?
Same problem as you on the Denon.

[keysersose]

ok steps are:

1-mount your iso file
2-go to BDMV/Stream/
3-install TSMuxerGUI
4-move the 000001.mt2s file to the input panel
5-demux option

6-email me at mrkeysersose@gmail.com - I'll email the 1080P video file and chapter points

7-using TSMuxerGui make a new Blu-ray disc using the 1080P video file and demuxed album.dtshd audio stream

8-cut and Paste chapter points - use cut option to indicate album length

[7saigon5]

So far I have made 2 BD music compilation using MultiAVCHD....

[keysersose]

So far I have made 2 BD music compilation using MultiAVCHD....

2 questions..

1- do you have chapter stops?
2- what format is the audio stream?

[deank]

multiAVCHD build 703

* Fix for audioBD / audioAVCHD compilations

Chapter jumps, fast forward and rewind now work properly.

The best way to import an album title (many songs in one audio file) is to use .CUE sheet playlist.

If multiAVCHD is unable to detect album duration it will look for specific lines in the .cue file (if cue file is present).

If you're using .cue files, please add:

TRACK 99 AUDIO
TITLE "END"
INDEX 99 MM:SS:FF

at the end of the file, replacing MM:SS:FF with the actual duration of your album.

For example for 1 hr 5min 13sec long album:

TRACK 99 AUDIO
TITLE "END"
INDEX 99 65:13:00

(65 minutes = 1hr 5mins : 13 seconds)

* If .cue file is not present and album duration is not detected it defaults to 2 hours (7200 seconds)
* If. cue file is present but there is no "INDEX 99" album-duration-indication, then duration defaults to last track start time + 5 mins

Dean

[deank]

multiAVCHD build 704

addresses some problems with .dtshd files if .cue file is not present or if .cue filename is different than the .dtshd filename.

Prompt pop-up for manual duration entry is added in format HH:MM:SS when multiAVCHD is not able to detect audio album duration.

It should now all work for audio compilations / albums (audioBD and audioAVCHD).

Dean

[wswartzendruber]

1. There's one thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere in this thread: Profile 3.0, which is dedicated for audio-only Blu-rays. Is your utility compliant with this standard?
2. Do Blu-ray discs support metadata similar to ID3?
3. Can Blu-rays be played without AACS or BD+, or do I have to use AVCHD?

My end goal is to master a disc that will play on Profile 3.0 audio players when they become available.

[deank]

1) Yes, it will produce output compatible with Profile 3.0
2) Yes, meta information is stored it \META\DL and \META\ES
3) Yes, you can, but you also can use AVCHD if the player is AVCHD-compatible.

Dean

[deank]

Here is something about profile 3:

Functions of BD-ROM Profile 3 Players

Required functions of the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 3 are the same as
for the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 1 and BD-ROM Profile 2, except that

• Only the following user operations are mandatory for the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 3:

- Skip to Next Point() UO
- Skip Back to Previous Point()UO
- Play FirstPlay() UO
- Stop() UO
- Still Off() UO

• Output of video and graphics data is not available. However, decoding of the Interactive
Graphics stream still needs to be supported, so that that buttons which activate automatically
(without requiring the Activate Button user operation) will still activate automatically, and so that
any button related user operations that are supported by the BD-ROM Player are correctly
handled.

• BD-J is not applicable.

• Player function of Browsable slideshow is not applicable.

• Player function of Audio mixing model is not applicable.

• Player function of Binding Unit manifest file is not applicable.

• Player function of Local storage and Virtual File System is not applicable

[wswartzendruber]

You, sir, are an enormous help! :)