Furiousflea
15th February 2009, 19:18
BD-Rebuilder step by step
HD DVD -> Bluray
Burning
Get BD-R Capacity from BD-RE Disc
Compatible BD5\BD9 players....
BD-Rebuilder step by step
Software you will need...
BD-Rebuilder - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716
Extract file archive anywhere you like, preferably close to the root of your drive to avoid potential problems.
AVISYNTH 2.57 - http://www.avisynth.org/
FFDShow - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/
After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Also make sure VC-1 decoding is set to "disabled".
Matroska Splitter - http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
AnyDVD HD - http://www.slysoft.com
Imgburn - http://www.imgburn.com
Important: After the above have been installed\extracted make sure you RESTART YOUR COMPUTER before you begin.
1. Make sure AnyDVD HD is running at it's default settings and enabled with the small icon in the taskbar in RED - this show's it is enabled. Right click the RED icon and choose "Rip Video DVD To Hard Disk". Select your Bluray drive and output folder and click "Copy". Copying will take a long time depending on the speed of your Bluray drive it can take between 30 mins - 90 mins.
2. Open BD-Rebuilder by browsing to the folder you extracted it to earlier and running BD_Rebuilder.exe. When it first loads you may be a little daunted but creating a good quality BD backup is childs play.
3. First you have to chose what your target will be, are you burning to BD5 (Single layer DVD+\-R) BD9 (Double layer DVD+\-R) or BD25 (Single layer BD-R) - You only need a Bluray burner for writing to BD-R all DVD writers can make a BD5\BD9 backup.
4. So lets get started, click "settings" then from the drop down list click "options" then select your desired output. Next in the same drop down menu click the "Encoder settings" sub menu and you can see that you can chose the quality of the output. The highest quality setting will take so long even on a fast system that it is best to always chose "High quality (default)". Now click the "settings" menu again and this time chose the bottom option "Setup". A dialogue box will appear with a few different options. At the top we have "Audio Languange To Keep", most blurays have a few different audio languages on the disc. It is best to remove the ones that aren't in your native language as long as you aren't backing up a bluray that is meant to be in another language and has no audio track in your native language. So make sure there is a tick by the box for your native language. Next the box below this "Limit to one track for each language", this will make BD-Rebuilder only encode 1 audio track for each language for your bluray. For example if your bluray has an english main track and 1 english commentry track, BD-Rebuilder will deselect the commentry track. It will apply this rule to extras also.
The same thing applies to the "Subtitles" box on the right.
Below this we have "stricter AVCHD compliance for movie only" - This is useful if you are making a backup for playback on devices that don't properly support BD9 but will playback AVCHD (The PS3 is an example of this)
And under that we have the audio encoding options. Audio on bluray is stored at an extremely high quality much higher than DVD. It is normally overkill for most people except the very best high end hardware and is impossible to keep on a BD5\BD9 backup without reducing the picture quality substantially because there will be less room for the video data.
The first option "Do no convert DTS to AC3". If this is selected and your bluray has a DTS\DTS-HD\DTSMA audio track, then it will not be re-encoded to AC3. Note that your audio will still be re-encoded to normal DTS - which is still very high quality and even that can take a lot of space. So it might be a good idea to not tick this box unless you are doing a short "movie only" backup on BD9, for BD5 you should never select this.
Under this we have "Do not reencode AC3" This works in the same way as the option above for DTS but applies to audio encoded with Dolby codecs (TrueHD\AC3+) This option isn't as critical as the DTS one in terms of wasting space on your backup as TrueHD will be encoded whatever you select (uncompressed audio taking massive amount of space) but it is stil best to leave it unticked for BD9 and always BD5.
Finally we have "Use 640kbs for Ac3 encoding" This option will make BD-Rebuilder encode AC3 audio at 640kbs instead of the default 448kbs. This option works in conjuntion with the "Do not convert DTS to Ac3" So if you do not convert your DTS audio to AC3 this option won't do anything. But if you do encode your DTS audio to Ac3 this will chose whether to encode it at 640kbps\448kbps. Jdobbs, the author of BD-Rebuilder thinks that the difference in sound quality between 640kbs and 448kbs is negligable. My opinion differs on this matter and the difference in bitrate shouldn't affect the quality of your video even if you chose the higher quality 640kbs unless your Bluray is very large.
Ignore the options on the right below the subtitles selection box, they aren't needed for basic backups.
Click save changes once you have chosen the options that are most appropriate for your particular bluray.
Now you need to select the source directory of the Bluray you want to backup, click "browse" to the right of the "sourc path" box, and locate the folder you backed up your bluray to using AnyDVD HD earlier. Now click "browse" again, under the working path heading and chose a folder where BD-Rebuilder will do it's magic, if you have 2 or more hard drives it is best to select a folder on a drive seperate to the one your Bluray has been ripped to. It is not essential but will make using your computer smoother for doing other tasks while your Bluray is being backed up.
Finally before we hit that big "Backup" button, you need to chose if you want to make a full backup, or a backup of the movie only with no extras or menu on the backup. You can do this by clicking "mode" on the toolbar and clicking the desired option "Full backup" or "Movie only backup".
If you are burning to BD5 you should ALWAYS chose "Movie only backup". If you are burning to BD9, you must look at how long your Bluray is (it will say near the bottom of the screen above the "Backup" button). If it is under 2:30, a full backup should be ok. For BD25 you should always select a full backup.
Thats it, click backup and WAIT.....It can take anywhere from 8 hours on a fast quad core computer to many days on an old Pentium 4\AMD single core computer.
Hope this guid is of some use I will tidy it up in due course
HD DVD -> Bluray (main movie only)
Software you will need
AnyDVD HD - http://www.slysoft.com
EAC3To - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966
HD-DVD\Bluray Stream Extractor - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829
Extract to same folder as EAC3To (this is simply a frontend so you don't have to mess around with command lines)
TSmuxer GUI - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104
Rip your HD DVD with AnyDVD HD, the in the same way as you would with a Bluray (Look up there on how to do it ^). At this point we need to run the HD-DVD Stream Extractor you should have extracted already. Once you've run it, you'll see at the top left a room for path to the input folder. Click the button to the right of that and browse to the rip of your HD DVD and load it. Next click the little blue "features" button and your HD DVD will be analysed and the results will shortly be displayed in the window below. The top entry will nearly always be your HD DVD "main movie" and have the longest duration (the one you want) with the others (if there are any) being extras.
Go ahead and click the entry that corresponds to the main movie and wait a few seconds until the various streams that are in the "main movie" appear.
Once loaded you should have various streams, as a minimum an "audio" and a "video" one, most likely a few "audio" ones though and a load of subtitle ones too. You need to put a tick by the main "video" stream (this will be 1080p 99% of the time) and NOT the secondary video stream (this will be 480p 99% of the time and is a PiP track if you HD DVD has one).
When choseing what to extract the video as make sure you DON'T chose MKV - Depending on what type of codec was used chose either VC1\h264.
Now on to audio, put a tick in the audio stream that corresponds to your native language and a lossless one if possible (TrueHD\DTS Master Audio) If there is no lossless one then the highest bitrate surround track is normally the correct one to extract. Make sure you "extract as" the same format of the original track, eg TrueHD as "THD" EXCEPT for EAC3 audio, that should be extracted as "AC3"
Now on to subs, if needed. Some movies have "forced" subs and they will apprear in the description here so have a quick check if some forced subs in your native language are need and put a tick by them also if needed.
Now click the browse button up the top right for the output folder selection, click ok. Back at the main windows click the "Extract" button at the bottom of the windows and WAIT - depending on speed of your hard drive and various factors, it can take between 10 mins and 1 hour.
Now on to using TSmuxer to merge those extracted streams into and m2ts container and output as bluray file structure.
You should now be left with 2-3 raw streams, your video and audio as well as a sub track if you extracted one of them too. Now browse to the folder you have extracted TSmuxer to and run the GUI executable in that folder (the one with a nice icon ;)) At the top 3rd of the screen you have room to drag files on to the program window that will form your bluray structure. So, open the folder you extracted those raw streams to just now and drag 1st the video, then the audio and then the subtitle if you used one.
The middle window should now be populated with a video\audio\subtitle track. For cosmetic reasons you can click your audio\subtitle track and update its displayed language in the drop down list once you've clicked it (not essential though.
Ok, so these files will make up your bluray, Below this is the output section, chose "Create Blu-ray disk" then browse and create a folder where you want to store the Blu-ray structure. Then click ok.
Back at the main TSmuxer window click "Start Muxing"....Wait a while and TSmuxer will tell you once it's finished and if it was successful.
Load this output folder into BD-Rebuilder....Your done.
Notes : You can extract as many audio\subtitle tracks as you want from the HD DVD, I chose a single one for simplicity of the guide. You can keep your commentry tracks and all that rubbish if you want just make sure you drag that file into TSmuxer also when creating youe bluray structure
Burning
Software you will need
ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com
Install ImgBurn then load it up and chose the top right icon "Write Files\Folder To Disk"
Click the "Browse for Folder" icon, (its above the red X) browse to the output folder of BD-Rebuilder and click the folder representing the name of the movie and click ok to add it.
Chose the destination as your DVD writer\Bluray writer in the dropdown list below the files\folder list window.
Look to the right and you will see a selection of tabs, click the "device" tab and chose your burn speed (recommended as low as possible to give good quality burn)
Next click the "options" tab and change the filesystem to "UDF" and UDF revision to "2.50"
Optionally you can click the "Label" tab and give your disc a label so that when it is loaded on a computer the name of the movei will appear in my computer for easy recognition.
Go back to the "Information" tab and click the big calculator icon at the bottom of the screen, various statistics about your burn will pop appear like size etc.
Click the big burn button at the bottom left of the ImgBurn main window, click ok to any dialogue box that appears.
MAKE SURE YOU TICK THE "VERIFY" BOX ABOVE THE LARGE BURN ICON TO RULE OUT ANY DODGY DISCS WHEN DIAGNOSING ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR DISC.
Assuming everything goes ok during the burn you will be left with a nice BD5\BD9\BD25 ready for playback.
Get BD-R Capacity from BD-RE Disc
If burning to BD-RE the space available isn't as high as BD-R by default. To make it so you can write as much to a BD-RE as a BD-R....
Start Imgburn
Tools -> Settings -> "Write tab" -> "Prefer format without spare areas" check box.
Now whne you next format you BD-RE with Imgburn it will hold as much as a normal BD-R
Compatible BD5\BD9 players....
Please refer to my other thread on comptabile BD5\BD9 players if you have any problems it could be that your player doesn't support full disc on BD5\BD9 media, or it may not support BD5\BD9 at all.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674
Please post any information you have in terms of compatibility there so I can keep that thread up to date.
Potential Problems
1. Error "Unable to find MSCOMCTL.OCX" or similar...
Solution; Right click BD-Rebuilder -> Run as Administrator (Only needs to be done once)
HD DVD -> Bluray
Burning
Get BD-R Capacity from BD-RE Disc
Compatible BD5\BD9 players....
BD-Rebuilder step by step
Software you will need...
BD-Rebuilder - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716
Extract file archive anywhere you like, preferably close to the root of your drive to avoid potential problems.
AVISYNTH 2.57 - http://www.avisynth.org/
FFDShow - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/
After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Also make sure VC-1 decoding is set to "disabled".
Matroska Splitter - http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
AnyDVD HD - http://www.slysoft.com
Imgburn - http://www.imgburn.com
Important: After the above have been installed\extracted make sure you RESTART YOUR COMPUTER before you begin.
1. Make sure AnyDVD HD is running at it's default settings and enabled with the small icon in the taskbar in RED - this show's it is enabled. Right click the RED icon and choose "Rip Video DVD To Hard Disk". Select your Bluray drive and output folder and click "Copy". Copying will take a long time depending on the speed of your Bluray drive it can take between 30 mins - 90 mins.
2. Open BD-Rebuilder by browsing to the folder you extracted it to earlier and running BD_Rebuilder.exe. When it first loads you may be a little daunted but creating a good quality BD backup is childs play.
3. First you have to chose what your target will be, are you burning to BD5 (Single layer DVD+\-R) BD9 (Double layer DVD+\-R) or BD25 (Single layer BD-R) - You only need a Bluray burner for writing to BD-R all DVD writers can make a BD5\BD9 backup.
4. So lets get started, click "settings" then from the drop down list click "options" then select your desired output. Next in the same drop down menu click the "Encoder settings" sub menu and you can see that you can chose the quality of the output. The highest quality setting will take so long even on a fast system that it is best to always chose "High quality (default)". Now click the "settings" menu again and this time chose the bottom option "Setup". A dialogue box will appear with a few different options. At the top we have "Audio Languange To Keep", most blurays have a few different audio languages on the disc. It is best to remove the ones that aren't in your native language as long as you aren't backing up a bluray that is meant to be in another language and has no audio track in your native language. So make sure there is a tick by the box for your native language. Next the box below this "Limit to one track for each language", this will make BD-Rebuilder only encode 1 audio track for each language for your bluray. For example if your bluray has an english main track and 1 english commentry track, BD-Rebuilder will deselect the commentry track. It will apply this rule to extras also.
The same thing applies to the "Subtitles" box on the right.
Below this we have "stricter AVCHD compliance for movie only" - This is useful if you are making a backup for playback on devices that don't properly support BD9 but will playback AVCHD (The PS3 is an example of this)
And under that we have the audio encoding options. Audio on bluray is stored at an extremely high quality much higher than DVD. It is normally overkill for most people except the very best high end hardware and is impossible to keep on a BD5\BD9 backup without reducing the picture quality substantially because there will be less room for the video data.
The first option "Do no convert DTS to AC3". If this is selected and your bluray has a DTS\DTS-HD\DTSMA audio track, then it will not be re-encoded to AC3. Note that your audio will still be re-encoded to normal DTS - which is still very high quality and even that can take a lot of space. So it might be a good idea to not tick this box unless you are doing a short "movie only" backup on BD9, for BD5 you should never select this.
Under this we have "Do not reencode AC3" This works in the same way as the option above for DTS but applies to audio encoded with Dolby codecs (TrueHD\AC3+) This option isn't as critical as the DTS one in terms of wasting space on your backup as TrueHD will be encoded whatever you select (uncompressed audio taking massive amount of space) but it is stil best to leave it unticked for BD9 and always BD5.
Finally we have "Use 640kbs for Ac3 encoding" This option will make BD-Rebuilder encode AC3 audio at 640kbs instead of the default 448kbs. This option works in conjuntion with the "Do not convert DTS to Ac3" So if you do not convert your DTS audio to AC3 this option won't do anything. But if you do encode your DTS audio to Ac3 this will chose whether to encode it at 640kbps\448kbps. Jdobbs, the author of BD-Rebuilder thinks that the difference in sound quality between 640kbs and 448kbs is negligable. My opinion differs on this matter and the difference in bitrate shouldn't affect the quality of your video even if you chose the higher quality 640kbs unless your Bluray is very large.
Ignore the options on the right below the subtitles selection box, they aren't needed for basic backups.
Click save changes once you have chosen the options that are most appropriate for your particular bluray.
Now you need to select the source directory of the Bluray you want to backup, click "browse" to the right of the "sourc path" box, and locate the folder you backed up your bluray to using AnyDVD HD earlier. Now click "browse" again, under the working path heading and chose a folder where BD-Rebuilder will do it's magic, if you have 2 or more hard drives it is best to select a folder on a drive seperate to the one your Bluray has been ripped to. It is not essential but will make using your computer smoother for doing other tasks while your Bluray is being backed up.
Finally before we hit that big "Backup" button, you need to chose if you want to make a full backup, or a backup of the movie only with no extras or menu on the backup. You can do this by clicking "mode" on the toolbar and clicking the desired option "Full backup" or "Movie only backup".
If you are burning to BD5 you should ALWAYS chose "Movie only backup". If you are burning to BD9, you must look at how long your Bluray is (it will say near the bottom of the screen above the "Backup" button). If it is under 2:30, a full backup should be ok. For BD25 you should always select a full backup.
Thats it, click backup and WAIT.....It can take anywhere from 8 hours on a fast quad core computer to many days on an old Pentium 4\AMD single core computer.
Hope this guid is of some use I will tidy it up in due course
HD DVD -> Bluray (main movie only)
Software you will need
AnyDVD HD - http://www.slysoft.com
EAC3To - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966
HD-DVD\Bluray Stream Extractor - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829
Extract to same folder as EAC3To (this is simply a frontend so you don't have to mess around with command lines)
TSmuxer GUI - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104
Rip your HD DVD with AnyDVD HD, the in the same way as you would with a Bluray (Look up there on how to do it ^). At this point we need to run the HD-DVD Stream Extractor you should have extracted already. Once you've run it, you'll see at the top left a room for path to the input folder. Click the button to the right of that and browse to the rip of your HD DVD and load it. Next click the little blue "features" button and your HD DVD will be analysed and the results will shortly be displayed in the window below. The top entry will nearly always be your HD DVD "main movie" and have the longest duration (the one you want) with the others (if there are any) being extras.
Go ahead and click the entry that corresponds to the main movie and wait a few seconds until the various streams that are in the "main movie" appear.
Once loaded you should have various streams, as a minimum an "audio" and a "video" one, most likely a few "audio" ones though and a load of subtitle ones too. You need to put a tick by the main "video" stream (this will be 1080p 99% of the time) and NOT the secondary video stream (this will be 480p 99% of the time and is a PiP track if you HD DVD has one).
When choseing what to extract the video as make sure you DON'T chose MKV - Depending on what type of codec was used chose either VC1\h264.
Now on to audio, put a tick in the audio stream that corresponds to your native language and a lossless one if possible (TrueHD\DTS Master Audio) If there is no lossless one then the highest bitrate surround track is normally the correct one to extract. Make sure you "extract as" the same format of the original track, eg TrueHD as "THD" EXCEPT for EAC3 audio, that should be extracted as "AC3"
Now on to subs, if needed. Some movies have "forced" subs and they will apprear in the description here so have a quick check if some forced subs in your native language are need and put a tick by them also if needed.
Now click the browse button up the top right for the output folder selection, click ok. Back at the main windows click the "Extract" button at the bottom of the windows and WAIT - depending on speed of your hard drive and various factors, it can take between 10 mins and 1 hour.
Now on to using TSmuxer to merge those extracted streams into and m2ts container and output as bluray file structure.
You should now be left with 2-3 raw streams, your video and audio as well as a sub track if you extracted one of them too. Now browse to the folder you have extracted TSmuxer to and run the GUI executable in that folder (the one with a nice icon ;)) At the top 3rd of the screen you have room to drag files on to the program window that will form your bluray structure. So, open the folder you extracted those raw streams to just now and drag 1st the video, then the audio and then the subtitle if you used one.
The middle window should now be populated with a video\audio\subtitle track. For cosmetic reasons you can click your audio\subtitle track and update its displayed language in the drop down list once you've clicked it (not essential though.
Ok, so these files will make up your bluray, Below this is the output section, chose "Create Blu-ray disk" then browse and create a folder where you want to store the Blu-ray structure. Then click ok.
Back at the main TSmuxer window click "Start Muxing"....Wait a while and TSmuxer will tell you once it's finished and if it was successful.
Load this output folder into BD-Rebuilder....Your done.
Notes : You can extract as many audio\subtitle tracks as you want from the HD DVD, I chose a single one for simplicity of the guide. You can keep your commentry tracks and all that rubbish if you want just make sure you drag that file into TSmuxer also when creating youe bluray structure
Burning
Software you will need
ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com
Install ImgBurn then load it up and chose the top right icon "Write Files\Folder To Disk"
Click the "Browse for Folder" icon, (its above the red X) browse to the output folder of BD-Rebuilder and click the folder representing the name of the movie and click ok to add it.
Chose the destination as your DVD writer\Bluray writer in the dropdown list below the files\folder list window.
Look to the right and you will see a selection of tabs, click the "device" tab and chose your burn speed (recommended as low as possible to give good quality burn)
Next click the "options" tab and change the filesystem to "UDF" and UDF revision to "2.50"
Optionally you can click the "Label" tab and give your disc a label so that when it is loaded on a computer the name of the movei will appear in my computer for easy recognition.
Go back to the "Information" tab and click the big calculator icon at the bottom of the screen, various statistics about your burn will pop appear like size etc.
Click the big burn button at the bottom left of the ImgBurn main window, click ok to any dialogue box that appears.
MAKE SURE YOU TICK THE "VERIFY" BOX ABOVE THE LARGE BURN ICON TO RULE OUT ANY DODGY DISCS WHEN DIAGNOSING ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR DISC.
Assuming everything goes ok during the burn you will be left with a nice BD5\BD9\BD25 ready for playback.
Get BD-R Capacity from BD-RE Disc
If burning to BD-RE the space available isn't as high as BD-R by default. To make it so you can write as much to a BD-RE as a BD-R....
Start Imgburn
Tools -> Settings -> "Write tab" -> "Prefer format without spare areas" check box.
Now whne you next format you BD-RE with Imgburn it will hold as much as a normal BD-R
Compatible BD5\BD9 players....
Please refer to my other thread on comptabile BD5\BD9 players if you have any problems it could be that your player doesn't support full disc on BD5\BD9 media, or it may not support BD5\BD9 at all.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674
Please post any information you have in terms of compatibility there so I can keep that thread up to date.
Potential Problems
1. Error "Unable to find MSCOMCTL.OCX" or similar...
Solution; Right click BD-Rebuilder -> Run as Administrator (Only needs to be done once)