Google Chrome a Engineering Masterpiece ? [Archive] - Page 2

Dirhael

25th September 2008, 19:11

definatly a rendering bug. the image didnt get resized before being displayed.
you can send bugreports at dirhael AT gmail DOT com.
Oops, I think there has been a misunderstanding here as I don't have anything to do with Chrome or Chromium...all I've made is that "nightly" updater utility. Guess it would be best if I changed/clarified the statusbar text for the next release ;)

smok3

25th September 2008, 20:35

reinstall it... works here with SP3.

chrome or chromium?

LoRd_MuldeR

25th September 2008, 21:39

Iron is the first(???) Chrome/Chromium clone and it comes without the Client-ID feature:
http://www.srware.net/software_srware_iron.php

It seems to be based on Chromium Build 1880 and it looks identical to the official Chrome...

Sharktooth

26th September 2008, 01:30

Oops, I think there has been a misunderstanding here as I don't have anything to do with Chrome or Chromium...all I've made is that "nightly" updater utility. Guess it would be best if I changed/clarified the statusbar text for the next release ;)
oops, sorry i tought that email address was for collecting chromium bugs...

@lord_mulder: considering the last build is 2617 (right now) it seems quite outdated

LoRd_MuldeR

3rd October 2008, 15:01

Latest builds got Mouse Button-3 (press Wheel down) support for scrolling, finally :)

Sharktooth

8th October 2008, 03:04

it would be interesting to test the latest chromium builds vs the latest webkit builds with squirrelfish extreme since it seems squirrelfish xt is even faster than V8

CruNcher

10th October 2008, 03:22

WOW all Win32 users look @ the new Firefox 3.1b2 nightlies the Speed improved alot lately :D it's up to when not even faster in rendering then Google or Opera (subjectively) :) Doom9 renders like hell fast, everything fells a lot smoother now (going through the 36 tab test is now fun) seems they found the main things that where slowing it down under Windows the whole time (also Cache/Memory behavior seems to have been improved less i/o is going on hard drive doesn't sound wise explodes anymore) i find that a major subjective speed improvement (since a long long time) :)
The magic started @ 20081007 acidtest3 is now @ 88% Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b2pre) Gecko/20081009 Minefield/3.1b2pre (.NET CLR 3.5.30729) ID:20081009033154
Though i was keeping more an eye on Firefox lately have to check how Google Chromium improved though Opera didn't made any big steps (it was already one of the most performant under Win32 seems it's slowly getting now @ the end and Google and Firefox drive away :D)

smok3

10th October 2008, 12:14

well, i'am certainly back to firefox, speed is not everything.

Sharktooth

16th October 2008, 03:08

FF is still too slow to start up. chrome/chromium is blazing fast.
Opera is fast to, not as chrome/chromium though.
Also Opera has not a maniacally optimized JS engine (and it already is one of the fastest browsers on earth), so there is still a lot of room for improvements.

CruNcher

16th October 2008, 04:14

Can't agree since the last nightlies also startup is really fast though i also deactivated all the google site security stuff (malware/trusted sites) scanning (sql database) maybe that has todo with it hmm
http://dromaeo.com/?id=46705 <- newer nightlies currently stop @ the dom test :(
acidetest3 = 89

LoRd_MuldeR

17th October 2008, 14:34

Astrophizz

17th October 2008, 21:07

Looks like they're keeping ahead of Firefox 3.1 in speed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10068743-2.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Webware

LoRd_MuldeR

18th October 2008, 15:09

Here is my attempt to create an Auto Updater for Chromium:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dzmywjkmzdz/Chromium-Updater.2008-10-17.Try-4.zip

It will check for the latest build, download the ZIP file and extract it for you...

Here is a minor update:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/15zncnzdj34/Chromium-Updater.2008-10-19.zip

It will check for running instances of Chrome now!

Bigmango

19th October 2008, 03:11

Looks like they're keeping ahead of Firefox 3.1 in speed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10068743-2.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Webware

Actually, in the link you have posted, Firefox is the fastest. Tracemonkey is the new java engine coming with Firefox 3.1.

"...bear in mind here that a smaller score is best for SunSpider: TraceMonkey-enabled Firefox led with a score of 2,257; Chrome was second at 2,904..."

The google javascript test is currently not relevant until the Firefox bug is fixed.

Astrophizz

19th October 2008, 08:40

Good point, thanks for correcting me.

Bigmango

19th October 2008, 13:22

Good point, thanks for correcting me.

Anyway, the difference is very small. They are both as fast. :)

Astrophizz

19th October 2008, 23:01

Yeah, the progress with this stuff right now makes me think that there really wasn't much focus on speed in years past - except in Opera. Or maybe the new javascript engines are some sort of breakthrough.

LoRd_MuldeR

20th October 2008, 16:02

LoRd_MuldeR

24th October 2008, 14:26

Another small update to my Chormium Auto-Update tool:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/oovczfm5ttv/Chromium-Updater.2008-10-21.zip

The files will now be copied to the root folder instead of the "chrome-win32" subfolder.
So you can have "Chromium-Updater.exe" and "Chrome.exe" in the same folder now.

Yet another update to reduce the Spam on the installer's console:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/o3zmtndzjdy/Chromium-Updater.2008-10-24.zip

LoRd_MuldeR

5th November 2008, 20:49

Does anybody else make the experience that current Chromium builds crash on startup?

For me it started yesterday and it still happens with the build I just downloaded one minute ago...

[EDIT]

Update: It seems build 4855 is good again ;)

smok3

7th November 2008, 12:20

i always get this
http://blog.somestuff.org/images/iron_error.png
any clues?
(this happens with chrome, chromium, iron, system is xp pro sp3)

p.s. i only wanna use this browser for testing flash video playback really (at this point in time).

LoRd_MuldeR

7th November 2008, 12:31

smok3

7th November 2008, 12:55

98% sure.

LoRd_MuldeR

7th November 2008, 14:28

98% sure.

Better make it 100% sure. I once enabled "compatibility mode" and forgot about it. It will make Chrome/Chromium crash at startup!

Also make sure you get the latest Chromium builds. A short while ago, all builds were broken for ~24 hours...

smok3

7th November 2008, 14:39

rmb click on icon and uncheck that sort of mode right? any other hidden variations? (in xp i mean)

LoRd_MuldeR

7th November 2008, 16:47

rmb click on icon and uncheck that sort of mode right?

That's what I'd do, yes.

smok3

10th November 2008, 15:45

found it, it appears the problem is connected with symantec, the workaround is to run the app like
iron.exe --no-sandbox

LoRd_MuldeR

10th November 2008, 22:23

found it, it appears the problem is connected with symantec, the workaround is to run the app like
iron.exe --no-sandbox

Good to know! You should report your finding to the Chromium guys, if you didn't do so yet...

Sharktooth

11th November 2008, 03:31

did anyone test if there were improvements in speed in the latest builds?
i have the impression it became faster for regular browsing but i dont know "when" it started...

Shinigami-Sama

11th November 2008, 05:05

found it, it appears the problem is connected with symantec, the workaround is to run the app like
iron.exe --no-sandbox

how does this not surprise me that they can't get it right?

smok3

11th November 2008, 11:50

it is under known issues and filled in as fixed
http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/static.py?page=known_issues.cs
but obviously is not fixed at all, will have to wait :)

Sharktooth

25th November 2008, 04:06

recent chromium builds score 100/100 on acid 3 test, but it's still not completely passed.
JS execution speed is improved as well but still there are some issues with DOM.
things seem to be moving at an impressive rate...

Astrophizz

25th November 2008, 06:55

Wow, that is pretty fast. I remember Opera devs got a 100/100 but didn't pass the time part (smooth animation). Haven't heard anything about it since and probably won't until they start to release more pre-10.0 builds.

LoRd_MuldeR

26th November 2008, 20:29

recent chromium builds score 100/100 on acid 3 test, but it's still not completely passed.

I just ran Acid3 with latest Chromium build (r6035) and it hangs at 66/100 with "LINKTEST FAILED", then moves on to 96/100 and stops there.

Sharktooth

27th November 2008, 15:32

when i wrote it, it was build 58xx (where xx = something i cant remember)

LoRd_MuldeR

27th November 2008, 15:55

when i wrote it, it was build 58xx (where xx = something i cant remember)

So they broke it again? :D

Here is my result from Chromium r6107:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4285/chromeacid3hv1.png

Taurus

27th November 2008, 23:15

hmmmh, its working:
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9655/capdp7.th.png (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capdp7.png)

Sharktooth

28th November 2008, 19:35

it failed just the linktest. same was when i tested it.
probably they're still working on it.

fakey

29th November 2008, 08:23

scores 97 with bfilter enabled, 100 with bfilter bypassed.
seems like the soft-proxy partially breaks something out of acid3.

Sharktooth

1st December 2008, 19:35

a big competition is on going...
opera software is about to release the first alpha of opera 10 with a faster presto 2.2 engine... mozilla is readying firefox 3.1 with trace monkey engine... next webkit (so safari) will get a massive speedup using the new squirrelfish (xtreme?) engine... google has chrome/chromium with V8 engine that's performing better and better... microsoft is fighting back with IE8...
some comparisons are here: http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2008/09/19/squirrelfish-extreme-mops-floor-with-v8-tracemonkey
gentlemen, fasten the seatbelts, the race begins...

CruNcher

2nd December 2008, 07:24

i like this really great stuff you really realize the speed boost especially on older systems it's great :) seeing that all are optimizing low level performance currently, but many people are only talking about javascript you should realize the speed increase in the whole rendering process that takes place (more efficient I/O and memory management). Yes Presto 2.2 sounds promising the Opera Labs last official release was a new test version of the Video embedded 9.62 http://labs.opera.com

Sharktooth

2nd December 2008, 20:51

yup, html5 is going to change the web... :)
btw, that 9.62 build with file i/o and html 5 video tag is not based on presto 2.2.

CruNcher

4th December 2008, 15:16

http://www.opera.com/browser/next/

Edit: Imho Opera isn't that impressive anymore speed and optimized wise like it was some years ago (in the time of Firefox 1-2) Firefox (3.1 beta 3) pretty much has the same rendering Performance by now on Windows :)

Though im concentrating now more on Multimedia (Streaming,Playback) Performance and that is interesting how different they are here :)

Sharktooth

7th December 2008, 16:00

opera software headed the new generation of browsers... they always did.
they were always the first to develop and integrate new features we can now find in major web browsers.

Sharktooth

12th December 2008, 19:57

chrome is out of "beta": http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=23403&catid=3

LoRd_MuldeR

25th December 2008, 03:58

tetsuo55

25th December 2008, 10:48

Opera 10.00-alpha does not complete score 100/100 in the Acid3 test, although the homepage claim it does:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8027/opera10ru8.th.png (http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/8027/opera10ru8.png)

although opera does fix compatibility with a lot of websites, it still doesn't show many correctly

Chromium shows some sites that other browsers dont

CruNcher

26th December 2008, 22:26

Firefox got another Rendering Speedup recently, seems bug fixes where the reason for that :)
3.1 Final will be great especialy Windows user will realize a major Speed difference :)

Sharktooth

28th May 2009, 15:20

google chrome 3.0 is out (for devs): http://dl.google.com/chrome/install/182.2/chrome_installer.exe
it comes with a new WebKit (531.0), V8 (1.2.5.1) and Gears (0.5.21.0) versions, a number of crash fixes, support for video tags, a 'cleaner' UI, and more.
chromium is, as usual, a step ahead (183.0).
it would be interesting to compare the performance with safari 4 (beta), opera 10 (beta), firefox 3.1 (beta 4) and IE 8