View Full Version : Direct show resize filter for divx
legman
21st January 2002, 14:18
Links don't work right. ALl I gat is a 1k file.
legman
22nd January 2002, 15:12
wonton,
The filter upgrade is very nice. I am sure many people will appreciate the added functionality.
It's takes too much cpu here on 450 p2, so I am going to upgrade.
For those that have a faster box, the h+ card, intel cpu, divxplus applicaation and want to resize your divx movie to 640 wide so it will fit the screen, just load the filter above, open graphedit, open your movie (if you loaded the direct show resize filter in your system dir) it should open with your movie and the h+yuv render. If not, simply delete the render filter, add (under directshow filters), the bicubic resize and the h+ yuv render filter and connect the pins.
Right click on the bicubic resize filter and set the size you need and save it. Then hit play. You are good to go.
trbarry
23rd January 2002, 00:23
I thought that Zoom player could just resize by controlling the video overlay in hardware instead of executing code. If this is true then I'm not sure why you would want to use a software resize if you were just watching and not converting something. Unless it does a lot better job it seems it would just waste CPU.
- Tom
legman
23rd January 2002, 02:13
Originally posted by legman
What I got was exactly what divx+ gives me. It was a video that was undersized in width. I then attempted to use the controls to resize the video, but all it did was resize the empty window of the zoom player on the monitor and had no effect on the video on the tv in anyway.
So I am back to either requesting that the player find a way to resize the video without using any more cpu or buying a faster cpu.
Comments or suggestions are appreciated, lol. Thanks
Yeah. No one answered that part. I guess zoom only works on a monitor and the tv resizing must be with a filter.
Is there no one that really knows how zoom player works around here?
macdaddy
23rd January 2002, 02:40
I thought that Zoom player could just resize by controlling the video overlay in hardware instead of executing code.
blight wrote on his forum that the resizing options won't work from zoom when rendering through the tvout of H+/dxr3. I confirmed this. The window on the desktop would resize, etc. but nothing happened in the TV screen...
btw, any thoughts as to why, when routing sound through ap 24/96, the sound is a second behind the video. This does not happen with avi/ac3, only with DVDs. When outputting the audio via dxr3 this doesn't happen. I would love to get rid of this problem. I'd hate to have to always change the cables in the back of the box...
legman
23rd January 2002, 03:17
Thanks for the fast conformation. That was/is very cool of you.
I think it is a timing thing that the computer can't clock it. I don't have a clue really. Sorry about that. I hear you on the moving the cables issue. It does suck. I will poke arond with your issue and see if I can get anything to happen with some creative tricks. It's about all I can do.
macdaddy
23rd January 2002, 06:13
You're welcome. This is a big deal to me because I feel that the tvOUT on the dxr3 is superior to composite out of my Radeon 64 and tnt2ultra(with tvtool). The hardware DVD playback,and its output to a standaed NTSC TV is better than any of the standalones I have owned. I would simply like to use zoomplayer-rather than Eugene's, so I can use the soundcard, and its common S/PDIF output...
I appreciate the assistance with the soudcard troubles. I don't know what the hell is going on. The ap 24/96 is pretty configurable, but alot of that stuff is like another language to me. I don't think it's a CPU issue. I forget what speed AMD chip is in there, but it's at least 800mhz. The motherboard is one of the notorious 133a sets, so I am going to keep poking around avs looking for an answer, as well. The curious thing is that I was playing the DVD from the harddrive, which is generally so much more stable...
The last step woud be to get Geiss/Milkdrop running (although I don't know if it's compatible with winamp3). I'm sure it's possible, or that it will be in the near future, but I want to get the DVD stuff straight before I start screwing around with visualizations...
I found that when playing avi/ac3, the resize filter is NOT necessary, at least with the samples I used. However, I know that I encoded with standard heights and widths, so I don't know if this helps you, legman. I am going to test out decomb and trbarry's resize, so what are the problematic resolutions? I will use those in my tests...
dvdyke
23rd January 2002, 07:12
Is there any way to get this filter to work on SVCD playback? I want to be able to chop off the black bars from a 4:3 letterbox SVCD and have it pipe that via overlay to my Matrox G400 TV out.
western shinma
23rd January 2002, 07:25
It works for me with SVCDs with PowerDVD 4.0 installed. Looks like you can finally watch LOTR, hehe.
wanton
23rd January 2002, 10:52
to dvdyke: I made filter fix following aspect ratios when VCD aspect fix is on. 352x240, 352x288, 352x480, 352x576, 480x480, 480x576, 720x480 and 720x576 so remember to have that vcd aspect fix on if you want to watch those resolutions in correct aspect ratio. So yes it's working svcd's :) and half and full d1 resolutions too.
dvdyke
23rd January 2002, 10:57
How do I get it to work in PowerDVD or WinDVD to playback SVCD's?
wanton
23rd January 2002, 11:02
You probably won't. But i'll add non autoloading version to the next release you can then use that with zoom player that has dvd playback capabilities. And i've noticed that atleast mpeg-2 splitters i hade don't split mpeg-2 videos that have cd-xa headers (burned svcd's tracks directly on cd) but windows own mpeg-1 splitter works on vcd's mayber if you get mpeg-2 splitter somewhere that works svcd direcly so you can just click files direcly on the svcd and play them on mediaplayer you can watch them easily with my filter now. Or ofcourse if you don't get that workin you can rip them to hd as mpeg's with isobuster or similar.
wanton
23rd January 2002, 11:04
And if someone knows where to get mpeg-2 splitter that works with svcd directly please let me know :)
jakor
23rd January 2002, 14:13
Originally posted by legman
Hey Blacksun,
Well there are 2 filters. The crappy moonlight and the nice bicubic avaiable via link on the new page. I realize you are very busy with xvid, so thanks for taking a look.
Can you approve your statements ? as far As i tested your bicubic filter it crashes all the time. Also it has too big merit - and that is not right.
So if you won't be able to prove your words about our products being crappy we'll take some court examination about your slander
jakor
23rd January 2002, 14:16
Originally posted by wanton
And if someone knows where to get mpeg-2 splitter that works with svcd directly please let me know :)
Did you try elecard demultiplexer ? it's free
legman
23rd January 2002, 15:04
Originally posted by jakor
Can you approve your statements ? as far As i tested your bicubic filter it crashes all the time. Also it has too big merit - and that is not right.
So if you won't be able to prove your words about our products being crappy we'll take some court examination about your slander
I stated this on an earlier thread.
"vinetu,
Thanks, I guess this is aboutt he best i can hope for. It's free, works, but the quality is a bit weak. I don't have enough cpu for anything better in a 450 p2 playback box."
I was refering to its weak visual quality in comparision to the other filter. The truth is not slander. This is clear as I mentioned both filters.
You may also notice that I added some comments to that thread you misquoted. Something about ghosting and headaches. Just the truth, nothing more.
Now your filter gives me actual pain to view its output when used to resize, so maybe it is causing damage in my eyes or other peoples' eyes? You guys should think carefully before releasing something that causes pain to people. There is a great deal of liability in that.
You asked to back up my opinion, so I have. Would you like to discuss how the bicubic filter causes me no pain or how it has not crashed on me yet or how I want that high merit?
western shinma
23rd January 2002, 23:13
Originally posted by jakor
Can you approve your statements ? as far As i tested your bicubic filter it crashes all the time. Also it has too big merit - and that is not right.
So if you won't be able to prove your words about our products being crappy we'll take some court examination about your slander
It isn't legman's filter in the first place, and if you have to go around making legal threats when someone complains about your products rather than improving them, that makes your company look pretty bad indeed.
As for your comments regarding the bicubic filter, the objectivity of your post could be called into question. Normally I wouldn't suspect even someone working on a competing product to have ulterior motives, but in light of your threats I can only assume that your goal is to discredit your competition.
BlackSun
25th January 2002, 07:49
Originally posted by jakor
Can you approve your statements ? as far As i tested your bicubic filter it crashes all the time. Also it has too big merit - and that is not right.
So if you won't be able to prove your words about our products being crappy we'll take some court examination about your slander
Hey Alexander... In fact I still prefer the Moonlight filter. Anyway I'll post the last version of the wanton's filter, I was a bit busy because my Island was devastated by a Cyclone
legman
25th January 2002, 09:52
Who has the credit here and why?
Blacksun, you because you are a mod here and are workign xvid and have other projects also, but have previously stated that you are interested in making money from this stuff and whos integrity has been in question publity within these forums in the past?
Me, who has nothing to gain in any way shape or form from my evaluations and comments.
jakor, who develops for money also?
Doom9, who has not commented or made a comparision as of yet?
western shinma, who I do not know for Adam and has rushed to my defence in the face of this madness and trampling of the rights of honest free speech?
BlackSun
25th January 2002, 10:08
Credits for what ? And I'am not working anymore on XviD, I'am too busy with PowerDivX 4 :(
jakor
25th January 2002, 10:33
I do work on xvid too. (Isn't that enough for credits ?)
I'm sorry i was not polite enough in my first message.
I think that if a man calls something crappy he must back up his words in the term of facts not just statements. I thought the term "scrappy" was mentioned in an objective way, but it was mentioned in a subjective way. But we'll do our best to fit to your needs that no one could call our products scrappy anymore, even legman.
legman
25th January 2002, 14:36
I think that is cool that you are going to try and improve your filter. When I have anything negitive to say about a product in the future I will always give the reasaons at the same time.
Blacksun, forget my comments above. I hope everyone is okay where you are at and keep your mind on rescue and recovery and get some rest.
This is my last post on this board.
BlackSun
26th January 2002, 07:41
Too bad you quit us, I don't want to ask the reasons because sometimes it's something too personal, anyway you are somebody I like and really appreciated you work for the DivX Community. Good luck with your project, I see that you know I got problems with the Cyclone... Thank you, I appreciate it...
western shinma
27th January 2002, 00:15
Sorry I jumped in the middle of this, I probably shouldn't have jumped on your post jakor. Admittedly legman's comments weren't polite either, but I'm glad you decided not to pursue legal action. If you're still lurking legman, sorry to see you go. :(
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