Direct show resize filter for divx [Archive]

legman

12th January 2002, 17:56

Hey, I have an interesting problem that I ahve not seen anyone address yet.

There are several people using the divxplus application to view divx movies on their h+ decoder cards tv out chip.

Even though this application produces the best tvout quality, it has a limitation of 640 widths on input. If a file is 592 wide it will add black bars to the side.

I ahve known about this problem for sometime, but only recently have I been hearing about a lot of upset people. I was hoping the divx groups like vite and dominion would wake up and realize that the 640 widths were the best way to go, but alas that is not happening.

I am now trying to find a work around for this and could really use some help.

I tried loading a divx movie in graphedit and replacing the render filter with the h+ yuv video render and the movie played fine out of the h+ chip to the tv.

I am lookign for a way/suggestions to resize the input to a 640 width inbetween these filters. With avisynth or some other resize filter that installs with an appication.

Ideas?

legman

12th January 2002, 19:17

Ok, I found the solution to the above.

Using this version of avisynth:
http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/mpg/Avisynthv105.zip

and a script that looks like this:
avisource("e:\1.avi").BilinearResize(640,272)
ConvertToYUY2
flipvertical

You may or not need the flip filter

name the script file this:
1.avs

Load you divx in vdub and make it a divx with wav audio and save the file

Launch divxplus,
when it looks for a file, browse to the dir that your 1.avs is in. You will not be able to see it and there is no drop down option for *.* to see it either. Just paste or type in 1.avs and hit open.

It will load the movie and resize on the fly. Works great and very fast. No noticable system slowdown on a 450p2.

The output is very nice! :)

If anyone can find a better way, please do.

There an adjustment we will need to make for the video delay and add that line to the script. I don't have the time at the moment, but I will fix it later.

cofferscuffs

12th January 2002, 23:17

I've just tested (today) a new version of Bicubic Resizer DirectShow filter for Doom9 and have forwarded on today... gives very good results.

Doom9

12th January 2002, 23:21

it comes with no readme.. what exactly does it do?

cofferscuffs

12th January 2002, 23:30

Wait, wait. The readme was in the very first file he sent me.. I'll go fish it out.

cofferscuffs

12th January 2002, 23:40

OK, I wiped out my inbox so I don't have it anymore, but I've emailed the author so he'll send it again.

Anyways, I've been using it in PowerDivX by adding it via the config menu->filters (Bicubic Resize Filter). All it basically does is make it fit the full screen, just like legman wants (apart from this way I don't have to make a AVS script)

Blacksun should really implement (if possible) an option to allow selected filters to run at startup.

legman

13th January 2002, 00:08

Ok, my does not work.
The video is dragging behind the audio. It is just too slow.

cofferscuffs: Please explain what you are talking about. Are you using a filter with divxplus that is selectable in graphedit? If not that, then what?

I tried installing every player on doom9's page and none installed a direct show filter for resizing that I could bring up in graphedit.

I can't thinK of another way to resize going to divx+

vinetu

13th January 2002, 01:57

legman,

check at http://www.elecard.com/download/ the
"MoonLight Scalar - Resizer DirectShow®filter"
-Bad quality for me but it's "100%FREE" ...

Doom9

13th January 2002, 03:40

I'll publish that filter as soon as I get a readme.. it's open source soft, too

legman

13th January 2002, 05:00

vinetu,
Thanks, I guess this is aboutt he best i can hope for. It's free, works, but the quality is a bit weak. I don't have enough cpu for anything better in a 450 p2 playback box.

I tried setting cpu at lowest and it was not fast enough for precise setting. The basic setting looked about the same, bit did not drag the box down.

cofferscuffs,
yeah thanks bud. I think you are right, we need blacksun to make his resize filter selectable :) or well, selectable and unselectable. You can add the h+yuv render, but you can't remove the render that is already there on openg a file. If i had a faster box I would be begging. I hope he does it for all the others that can use it. Maybe he can just intergrate that h+yuv filter in his player to make it easy as specifing tv out to h+. Now that would be cool, as he has a really nice player.

legman

14th January 2002, 01:39

Where is blacksun?
I have not seen him in a long time.

legman

14th January 2002, 06:39

I tried that bicubic filter you posted. I tried it in graphedit. The quality was there and it was not that cpu intensive, but it was a bit much for my 450 p2 box. Also, the movies do not hold synch when being played in graphedit. Why? No clue. It's a nice filter.

BlackSun

14th January 2002, 07:07

I am here :D All of this sound interesting. BTW Doom9, you should ask Elecard (Moonlight) before distributing the Scalar filter, I thought it was free but finally I needed to license it (for PowerDivX 4)

This filter will let PowerDivX 4 Resize (simple or bilinear), crop and add black bar to the movie. Does it fit your need ?

DarkAvenger

14th January 2002, 10:07

A stupid question: Why doing resize with CPU? At least Nvidia cards can do it on their own (at least to some extent). Or is it just a problem with the h+?

legman

14th January 2002, 15:10

Hey Blacksun,
Well there are 2 filters. The "in my opinion much lower quality" moonlight and the nicer bicubic avaiable via link on the new page. I realize you are very busy with xvid, so thanks for taking a look.

The moonlight filter does do a color space conversion that can be helpful for other stuff. I just cannot watch a movie that has ghosting all over the place like that. I would rather not watch it at all and save myself a terrible headache.

DarkAvenger,
The divxplus application sends whatever you play directly to the tvout card, width wise. If you set it to fill the sreen, it won't keep aspect ratio. I just assume have one tv out card,. That being the H+ because it is a very good dvd decoder.

Doom9

14th January 2002, 18:22

what scalar filter?

legman

15th January 2002, 02:59

Thats the moonlight one.

BlackSun

15th January 2002, 07:09

Originally posted by legman
Hey Blacksun,
Well there are 2 filters. The crappy moonlight and the nice bicubic avaiable via link on the new page. I realize you are very busy with xvid, so thanks for taking a look.

I'll take a look at the bicubic filter, as long as I know the COM interface it's more easier. I don't see any problem by implementing your ideas in PowerDivX, but I need you to help me to test as I don't have a H+. (A friend got one but the old rev)

legman

15th January 2002, 14:50

I would be more then happy to help. :)
Thanks so much for taking a look at this.
I see this as two filters. The bicubic and the yuvrender that accesses the tv out. I guess that would be 2 switches where you could turn either on or off.

BTW, if need be, I will buy a fast cpu for that box. Hell they have to be cheep now.

cofferscuffs

15th January 2002, 16:02

Just got this in my inbox:

This is bicubic filter for directshow. It works in YUY2 mode only. Bicubic code was taken from avisynth 1.0 beta 5. I made this filter because i wanted mpeg-1 and other low resolution video to look better and sharper with my G450 dualhead.

Some standalone dvd players allready do bicubic resizing like most pioneer models. I own pioneer 525 and that gave me the idea because i was usually burning vcd's to watch them so i could watch them with better in quality but now i don't have to burn anything anymore just watch them with my g450. But test it your self to see how much better and sharper low resoltion videos look :)

Usage is simple put bicubic_resizer.ax to your system32 dir in win2000 or xp and put those bat files anywhere you want then just click reg_bicubic.bat to register the filter it will autoload so if you don't want to use it just click unreg_bicubic.bat to unregister it so it won't autoload. Use mediaplayer 6.4 or similar to get properties from filter it has resolutution setting and bicubic
setting. I find setting b = 0 and c = 1.0 quite good (default).

Those are exactly same setting as in avisynth but i don't know that much about bicubic algorythm so you'll be better off asking someone else about them but higher the c is sharper the picture is b = 0 and c = 1.5 might be better for really blurry material. And anyone knows what flip picture setting is. And you need allways to press save buttong to save your settings. Only flipping works in realtime other
setting only start working as soon as you load the next file.

Doom9

15th January 2002, 18:18

legman: whatever moonlight/elecard filter I have on my page.. they asked me to carry it so there can't be any problems with it.

legman

16th January 2002, 01:46

Doom,
That moonlight filter is very bad. Trash it. It is better to watch a movie with bars on the sides that to resize with that.

The bicubic filter is very good.

PowerDivx just needs a few mods and I think we are home free.

BlackSun

16th January 2002, 07:19

Finally I don't like the Moonlight Scaler anymore... Now let's see, if I use the bicubic filter, first I need to change his merit, because the filter is loaded with every movie and I don't think people will appreciate it.

Then, I need to found the interface, easy, just take a look at the source code.

What is the license of the filter ? I guess DirectShow filter are an exception for GPL, because it is used in WMP :) Is there a way to contact the original author and ask him if he allow me to use his filter in PowerDivX ?

A bud will give me a H+ this afternoon, unfortunatly this is the old revision and I don't think it will work fine.

Another problem is some options in DivXPlus. How the guy can change PAL/NTSC, etc...

legman

16th January 2002, 11:11

I don't know the license of the bicubic filter.
I may load all the time with normal applications, but with divxplus. If it did, there would not e an issue. There is no way to call it either from divxplus.

The pal/ntsc, invert and a few other options are avaible by right clicking on the divxplus gui.

The divxplus application should work with any revision, just not amd cpu's. This is what i havew heard, but am not 100% sure.

BlackSun

16th January 2002, 11:28

Originally posted by legman
The pal/ntsc, invert and a few other options are avaible by right clicking on the divxplus gui.

I know, but I want to use them from the DirectShow filter using it COM Object interface

The divxplus application should work with any revision, just not amd cpu's. This is what i havew heard, but am not 100% sure.

I was talking about the revision of the H+ chipset

legman

16th January 2002, 11:52

Yeah, that is a problem as the developer never answeres for source code.
As for the revision, I have heard of all of them working.

BlackSun

16th January 2002, 11:59

Okay, my first try will be to get the H+ working with DivXPlus...

Sanapaku

16th January 2002, 14:09

Originally posted by BlackSun

I was talking about the revision of the H+ chipset

Rev. A is said only to work on Windows 2000. Rev. B should work fine
on Windows 98(SE), ME and 2000.

San.

BlackSun

17th January 2002, 07:17

And WinXP ? I got a Rev. A and it didn't work with WinXP, unfortunatly i wasn't able to test with Win98/Me because I didn't got the drivers. :scared:

wanton

17th January 2002, 12:24

I'll be adding keep aspect ratio to that bicubic filter soon. Reason why i didn't add it before i send it was that i thought i didn't need but i i found out that if you have divx movie resolution like 512x??? then you'd be better of watching it via bicubic filter even with NTSC output with PAL you are really better off running even 640x??? video trough it because pal square pixel output is 768x576. But i'll be posting it here and sending it to doom9 probably tomorrow.

legman

17th January 2002, 14:56

http://www.sigmadesigns.com/support/downloads.htm

macdaddy

17th January 2002, 17:30

Several weeks ago, I put the links to all drivers up on the "fairly small FAQ;" you should be able to access the drivers froim there...

Snoopy

18th January 2002, 05:28

to wanton:

This filter is great, but I found a glitch when I tried a resolution higher than pal (800x600).
On the right side some 'stripes' appeared in the picture.
They are getting bigger with higher resolution.

The same thing happens in Avisynth, so it seems to be the filter code.
Maybe you can find out what's wrong, it would be nice if the filter would work fullscreen (at least 800x600).

And while I'm on it:
How about a checkbox to disable the filter?
Registering/unregistering becomes annoying when using XP because
it's an administrator task, batch files to click on won't work.

BlackSun

18th January 2002, 07:24

Yes please change the merit of the filter

wanton

18th January 2002, 11:35

Ok i'll try add all those things. But i didn't have time last night so i'll try again today. To Snoopy: I can't fix bicubic part because i don't know how it works and on computers i've tried i don't have any problems with higher resolutions like 1024x768 and higher pentium celeron 500mhz, athlon 700mhz, athlon 1.2gz and athlon 1.4gz. Can you tell me what these stripes look like? Any chance postin screen capture from the problem? And just for a note you should keep width dividable (hope that word is spelled ok...probably not) by 32 otherwise you'll probably get really wierd graphic errors like shitty looking picture because some graphics card won't like video surfaces like that :) But i've never tried this filter with files that have source width not dividable by 32 so it might be that.

wanton

18th January 2002, 11:45

Just tried resolutions 3200x480, 640x1000 and 1024x1000 with mpeg-1 352x240 and divx 512x384 source and still no stripes. Anyone else here than Snoopy can tell existence of the stripes with higher than to 800x600 resize?

legman

18th January 2002, 15:01

The merit does not work when playing a divx through divxplus application. Is there a way to set it even higher, so no matter whar, it is always used? Of course an off swich is nice too.

I was thinking of an interface that call the filter, no matter wher eit is being used, for properties adjustments and on/off settings.

macdaddy

20th January 2002, 00:07

I have been testing the direct show filter from doom9s page (bicubic_directshow_v1.2) and it looks good. I will give it a full testing (watching several movies all the way through, etc.) throughout the long weekend, but sofar, so good...

From the directshow bicubic resize readme:
"Usage is simple put bicubic_resizer.ax to your system32 dir in win2000 or xp and put
those bat files anywhere you want then just click reg_bicubic.bat to register
the filter"

Maybe this works in win2000 and xp, I don't know-I don't use those operating systems. It does not work in win98. If you run win98se (and I do), you have to copy both reg.bat and the .ax file to windows\system\ folder, and run the reg.bat from there...

Having said that, the filter works. And the flip works, so zoomplayer is a viable option using the dxr3 card's tv-out...

I will say that the directshow filter seems to improve the picture quality over just using the hp renderer...

Just one guy talking, but I hope it helps.

legman

20th January 2002, 02:08

you just have to run regsvr32 from the command line is all. The problem is it does not remember to stay on for divxplus. Major bummer.

macdaddy

20th January 2002, 02:16

zoom player remembers to run all the filters, once installed, after restarts, etc...

DivX played with these filters looks good through my dxr3 tv-out. zoom is so much easier to use than divx+ and Eugene's (one guy's opinion), and with so many more options...

By manually making a graph, I am able to get h+ tvout and powerDVD XP audio (S/PDIF) output (read more here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13976#post69843)). I am working on the mediagraph to get avi/ac3 going. Since the h+ renderer and directshow bicubic resize work with the standard media graph, and the ac3 out via cyberlink's audio decoder works, the two should be able to work in conjunction. Again the standard mediagraph works with the h+ render and dshow bicubic installed. I''ll post when I get the ac3/divx working...

Any of you with ideas, suggestions and the like, please chime in. Any input is certainly appreciated...

legman

20th January 2002, 16:32

I did not know there was another thread on this going.

Ok, here is the deal:
I downloaded the zoom player to see if it installed any new resizing filters, but when it didn't, I never touched it. After reading your post, I went back and played with it.

I have several problems.
1. When I first launched a divx, it remembered my last graphedit playback settign and launched the filters automatically....
after divx4 decompressor I had bicubic resize and the h+ yuvrender,
The problem is that with these settings, my cpu is not fast enough. The video bcomes choppy and the audio drags behind.

Very important:::: Does the audio stay in synch for you with a faster cpu?
If so, I will upgrade my cpu and be done.

It looks as if the the zoomplayer could resize the video on it's own and possibly without the bicubic resize filter, but it appears from your comments on the other thread, that you are indeed using this bicubic filter to resize.

I read further and read that it should complete a graph on its own, but I was unable to generate an uncomplete graph that the player would see in its graph dir.

The instructions for creating and converting a graph are for dvd playback only. I did try however, but i don't think it saw my incomplete graph or a complete one that I made.

I think what it ended up seeing was the last saved graph that graphedit saved. This last graph was a simple divx playback replacing the render filter with the h+ yuv render filter.

Now this works fine. I now had the video playing again on the tv, but this time without the bicubic in the chain. I had also previously unregistered it, incase you are interested, to make sure it would not be called.

What I got was exactly what divx+ gives me. It was a video that was undersized in width. I then attempted to use the controls to resize the video, but all it did was resize the empty window of the zoom player on the monitor and had no effect on the video on the tv in anyway.

So I am back to either requesting that the player find a way to resize the video without using any more cpu or buying a faster cpu.

Comments or suggestions are appreciated, lol. Thanks

macdaddy

20th January 2002, 19:24

The only time I got a slowdown, was when I moved the post-processing slider all the way over to max (it defaults on min). Then the audio did lag, but no problems with slider at minimum...

I can post my h+ and cyberlink S/PDIF graph (DVD playback)if you want it...

I use directshow resize with divx, not DVD playback...

Alexy

20th January 2002, 19:35

Yes please :)

macdaddy

20th January 2002, 20:13

// Zoom Player DVD Graph conversion of [C:\My Documents\hplusmaudio.xgr].
DefineFilter(claud.ax)
LoadFilter({E30629D1-27E5-11CE-875D-00608CB78066},WavOut S/PDIF Delta AP)
LoadFilter({D318FCEA-97D3-4B26-86B6-25E3FDCA5050},Hollywood Plus DirectShow filter)
LoadFilter({9BC1B780-85E3-11D2-98D0-0080C84E9C39},CyberLink Audio Decoder)
LoadFilter({9B8C4620-2C1A-11D0-8493-00A02438AD48},Source 0)
ConnectPin(Source 0,Video,Hollywood Plus DirectShow filter,Video In)
ConnectPin(Source 0,AC3,CyberLink Audio Decoder,In)
ConnectPin(Source 0,SubPicture,Hollywood Plus DirectShow filter,Subpicture In)
ConnectPin(CyberLink Audio Decoder,Out,WavOut S/PDIF Delta AP,Audio Input pin (rendered))

You can use the filters file mode (in zoomplayer) to specify the ones needed for avi/ac3 playback. This works fine on my machine...

Don't forget the registry tweaks. The S/PDIF output (Dolby Digital/dts) does not work without them. More information about those settings can be found here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13976#post69843). The .filters file for ac3DivX playback is there, too...

The only complaint I have is that the screen occassionally tears on pan shots, during divx playback only...

Any assistance, thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Snoopy

21st January 2002, 00:57

About the "Stripes" with higher resolution than PAL I was talking about:

The filter is not to blame!
It seems to be my graphic adapter or it's driver.
I tried to make a screen shot, and the capture was OK!!!(no stripes)

Does anybody else still use a Asus AGP-V3800 SGRAM ?
If so, please tell me if it works for you and what driver version you are using.

My specs:
VGA: Asus AGP-V3800 SGRAM
Bios Version: 2.05.13
Driver version: v3.79
Direct X 8.x (build 810)

CPU: Athlon 1.33GHz
Mainboard: Shuttle AK-31 rev. 2.0
OS: XP pro

Thanks in advance,
Snoopy

wanton

21st January 2002, 12:53

And for a note. What hell does this mean? Taken from bicubic v1.2.1 readme.

1.2 Maxwell Sayles

Name me as Maxwell Sayles...where the hell did that guy get that name. Because it's not mine. My name isn't even an english name. Maybe i should have but something in the readme. But now there is atleast Wanton there.

BlackSun

21st January 2002, 13:08

The link you provide (attachement) is not valid, can you verify it so i'll be able to validate the attachement (I am a super mod)

wanton

21st January 2002, 13:15

Seems that i left maxwell sayles in the source code but it's not me. I was using imedia's resizer filter as template that was really buggy and wasn't even done properly meaning some input and output pin shit was missing. And that link. Maybe this doom9's attachment thing doesn't just work and i don't have any place to up it. If someone wants to give me an email where to send it so he can put somewhere and post the link here? i'll try to attach it to this post too.

BlackSun

21st January 2002, 13:18

send it to blacksun <at> powerdivx <dot> com and i'll upload it on my server and will give you the link

wanton

21st January 2002, 13:44

Here are the links thanks to Blacksun :)

http://www.divx-digest.net/blacksunsoft/bicubic_directshow_v1_3b.zip
http://www.divx-digest.net/blacksunsoft/bicubic_directshow_v1_3b_source.zip

edit by BlackSun: link fixed

legman

21st January 2002, 14:18

Links don't work right. ALl I gat is a 1k file.

legman

22nd January 2002, 15:12

wonton,
The filter upgrade is very nice. I am sure many people will appreciate the added functionality.

It's takes too much cpu here on 450 p2, so I am going to upgrade.

For those that have a faster box, the h+ card, intel cpu, divxplus applicaation and want to resize your divx movie to 640 wide so it will fit the screen, just load the filter above, open graphedit, open your movie (if you loaded the direct show resize filter in your system dir) it should open with your movie and the h+yuv render. If not, simply delete the render filter, add (under directshow filters), the bicubic resize and the h+ yuv render filter and connect the pins.
Right click on the bicubic resize filter and set the size you need and save it. Then hit play. You are good to go.

trbarry

23rd January 2002, 00:23

I thought that Zoom player could just resize by controlling the video overlay in hardware instead of executing code. If this is true then I'm not sure why you would want to use a software resize if you were just watching and not converting something. Unless it does a lot better job it seems it would just waste CPU.

- Tom

legman

23rd January 2002, 02:13

Originally posted by legman

What I got was exactly what divx+ gives me. It was a video that was undersized in width. I then attempted to use the controls to resize the video, but all it did was resize the empty window of the zoom player on the monitor and had no effect on the video on the tv in anyway.

So I am back to either requesting that the player find a way to resize the video without using any more cpu or buying a faster cpu.

Comments or suggestions are appreciated, lol. Thanks

Yeah. No one answered that part. I guess zoom only works on a monitor and the tv resizing must be with a filter.

Is there no one that really knows how zoom player works around here?

macdaddy

23rd January 2002, 02:40

I thought that Zoom player could just resize by controlling the video overlay in hardware instead of executing code.

blight wrote on his forum that the resizing options won't work from zoom when rendering through the tvout of H+/dxr3. I confirmed this. The window on the desktop would resize, etc. but nothing happened in the TV screen...

btw, any thoughts as to why, when routing sound through ap 24/96, the sound is a second behind the video. This does not happen with avi/ac3, only with DVDs. When outputting the audio via dxr3 this doesn't happen. I would love to get rid of this problem. I'd hate to have to always change the cables in the back of the box...

legman

23rd January 2002, 03:17

Thanks for the fast conformation. That was/is very cool of you.

I think it is a timing thing that the computer can't clock it. I don't have a clue really. Sorry about that. I hear you on the moving the cables issue. It does suck. I will poke arond with your issue and see if I can get anything to happen with some creative tricks. It's about all I can do.

macdaddy

23rd January 2002, 06:13

You're welcome. This is a big deal to me because I feel that the tvOUT on the dxr3 is superior to composite out of my Radeon 64 and tnt2ultra(with tvtool). The hardware DVD playback,and its output to a standaed NTSC TV is better than any of the standalones I have owned. I would simply like to use zoomplayer-rather than Eugene's, so I can use the soundcard, and its common S/PDIF output...

I appreciate the assistance with the soudcard troubles. I don't know what the hell is going on. The ap 24/96 is pretty configurable, but alot of that stuff is like another language to me. I don't think it's a CPU issue. I forget what speed AMD chip is in there, but it's at least 800mhz. The motherboard is one of the notorious 133a sets, so I am going to keep poking around avs looking for an answer, as well. The curious thing is that I was playing the DVD from the harddrive, which is generally so much more stable...

The last step woud be to get Geiss/Milkdrop running (although I don't know if it's compatible with winamp3). I'm sure it's possible, or that it will be in the near future, but I want to get the DVD stuff straight before I start screwing around with visualizations...

I found that when playing avi/ac3, the resize filter is NOT necessary, at least with the samples I used. However, I know that I encoded with standard heights and widths, so I don't know if this helps you, legman. I am going to test out decomb and trbarry's resize, so what are the problematic resolutions? I will use those in my tests...

dvdyke

23rd January 2002, 07:12

Is there any way to get this filter to work on SVCD playback? I want to be able to chop off the black bars from a 4:3 letterbox SVCD and have it pipe that via overlay to my Matrox G400 TV out.

western shinma

23rd January 2002, 07:25

It works for me with SVCDs with PowerDVD 4.0 installed. Looks like you can finally watch LOTR, hehe.

wanton

23rd January 2002, 10:52

to dvdyke: I made filter fix following aspect ratios when VCD aspect fix is on. 352x240, 352x288, 352x480, 352x576, 480x480, 480x576, 720x480 and 720x576 so remember to have that vcd aspect fix on if you want to watch those resolutions in correct aspect ratio. So yes it's working svcd's :) and half and full d1 resolutions too.

dvdyke

23rd January 2002, 10:57

How do I get it to work in PowerDVD or WinDVD to playback SVCD's?

wanton

23rd January 2002, 11:02

You probably won't. But i'll add non autoloading version to the next release you can then use that with zoom player that has dvd playback capabilities. And i've noticed that atleast mpeg-2 splitters i hade don't split mpeg-2 videos that have cd-xa headers (burned svcd's tracks directly on cd) but windows own mpeg-1 splitter works on vcd's mayber if you get mpeg-2 splitter somewhere that works svcd direcly so you can just click files direcly on the svcd and play them on mediaplayer you can watch them easily with my filter now. Or ofcourse if you don't get that workin you can rip them to hd as mpeg's with isobuster or similar.

wanton

23rd January 2002, 11:04

And if someone knows where to get mpeg-2 splitter that works with svcd directly please let me know :)

jakor

23rd January 2002, 14:13

Originally posted by legman
Hey Blacksun,
Well there are 2 filters. The crappy moonlight and the nice bicubic avaiable via link on the new page. I realize you are very busy with xvid, so thanks for taking a look.

Can you approve your statements ? as far As i tested your bicubic filter it crashes all the time. Also it has too big merit - and that is not right.
So if you won't be able to prove your words about our products being crappy we'll take some court examination about your slander

jakor

23rd January 2002, 14:16

Originally posted by wanton
And if someone knows where to get mpeg-2 splitter that works with svcd directly please let me know :)
Did you try elecard demultiplexer ? it's free

legman

23rd January 2002, 15:04

Originally posted by jakor

Can you approve your statements ? as far As i tested your bicubic filter it crashes all the time. Also it has too big merit - and that is not right.
So if you won't be able to prove your words about our products being crappy we'll take some court examination about your slander

I stated this on an earlier thread.

"vinetu,
Thanks, I guess this is aboutt he best i can hope for. It's free, works, but the quality is a bit weak. I don't have enough cpu for anything better in a 450 p2 playback box."

I was refering to its weak visual quality in comparision to the other filter. The truth is not slander. This is clear as I mentioned both filters.

You may also notice that I added some comments to that thread you misquoted. Something about ghosting and headaches. Just the truth, nothing more.

Now your filter gives me actual pain to view its output when used to resize, so maybe it is causing damage in my eyes or other peoples' eyes? You guys should think carefully before releasing something that causes pain to people. There is a great deal of liability in that.

You asked to back up my opinion, so I have. Would you like to discuss how the bicubic filter causes me no pain or how it has not crashed on me yet or how I want that high merit?

western shinma

23rd January 2002, 23:13

BlackSun

25th January 2002, 07:49

legman

25th January 2002, 09:52

Who has the credit here and why?

Blacksun, you because you are a mod here and are workign xvid and have other projects also, but have previously stated that you are interested in making money from this stuff and whos integrity has been in question publity within these forums in the past?

Me, who has nothing to gain in any way shape or form from my evaluations and comments.

jakor, who develops for money also?

Doom9, who has not commented or made a comparision as of yet?

western shinma, who I do not know for Adam and has rushed to my defence in the face of this madness and trampling of the rights of honest free speech?

BlackSun

25th January 2002, 10:08

Credits for what ? And I'am not working anymore on XviD, I'am too busy with PowerDivX 4 :(

jakor

25th January 2002, 10:33

I do work on xvid too. (Isn't that enough for credits ?)
I'm sorry i was not polite enough in my first message.
I think that if a man calls something crappy he must back up his words in the term of facts not just statements. I thought the term "scrappy" was mentioned in an objective way, but it was mentioned in a subjective way. But we'll do our best to fit to your needs that no one could call our products scrappy anymore, even legman.