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har-vas
22nd February 2007, 09:32
Hello all. The last days, I do have a very weird problem with my matroska files. I think that is a general malfunction of my system though, not a problem with any program settings. Here is the story: Whatever filter I am trying to use for displaying IDX/SUB subtitles, which are stored inside the container, (VSFilter, ffdshow subtitle filter, built-in MPC filter), the media player crashes! I have tried with everyone: WMP 11, MPC, TCMP 4.11 and BSplayer 2.14. Firstly, I noticed this problem with BSplayer: I had enabled the subtitles filter from ffdshow and when a subtitle had to be appeared, BSplayer was crashing. That time though, I could "almost normally" display the subtitles in other players, so I thought that there was an issue with BSplayer (it wasn't my favourite player, anyway). The quotation marks above mean that sometimes the subtitles weren't appearing. 3 days before, I noticed that a particular mkv file could display "partially" the subtitles, that is in some parts of the movie it could and in other parts it couldn't. I tried to open that mkv with VLC and everything was fine. I thought that something was going wrong with this particular IDX in DirectShow. But 2 days before, I noticed that exactly the same problem was happening with a second mkv file, so I start thinking that there was a general problem. Very soon, I realized that I couldn't see any subtitles anymore in any DS-based player. Take into account that some days ago I was having a major problem with MPC and VMR9 (after 30-40 seconds of playback my system was freezing completely). I saw that only when I switched to Overlay mixer from MPC's options, my problem was solved and that is why I started dealing with ffdshow's subtitle filter. Now I think that I have a major problem with my rendering system or something (graphics card, overlay etc). I have installed the latest nVIDIA 97.73 beta drivers (for my AGP GeForce 7800GS), but my problem is still here: Whatever player I am selecting to open my mkv files, it crashes at the time of a subtitle display. Note that I don't have that problems with .srt subtitles, for example I see that the green arrow of VSFilter loads and the subs are there, while in IDX case, the arrow loads but no vobsub subtitles! It seems that the subtitles are detected normally, but for an unknown reason they cannot be displayed in overlay mode (in MPC VMR9 they can, but MPC crashes in a few seconds). Is there any tool to check thart my graphics card is working properly? Any help is really necessary and would be greatly appreciated.

PS: Two weeks ago, my system was working properly and every subtitle was being displayed normally. Also VLC shows correctly the subtitles. Finally, the filter graph of the mkv file is normal.

check
22nd February 2007, 12:52
not enough paragraphs. Enter your text and try again. Here's a simple solution: uninstall everything, install CCCP.

setarip_old
22nd February 2007, 17:47
@har-vas

Hi!Two weeks ago, my system was working properlyIf your O/S is WinXP, try performing a "System Restore" back to the last time things were working properly...

har-vas
24th February 2007, 20:44
Hi and thank you for your answers.not enough paragraphs. Enter your text and try again.
@check: What do you mean by that? Anyway, I don't like using codec packs like CCCP.
@setarip_old: I have disabled the System Restore. I consider it useless, as many times doesn't work.
So here I have some extra information I would like to give you. First of all, I have noticed that the problem with IDX subtitles exists only when the subtitles are inside the matroska container. When I have a .mkv (or a .wmv, .rmvb etc) with the subtitles in a separate file, both VSFilter and ffdshow can show them correctly. Hence it seems that something is wrong when they are embedded and that also means that I don't have a general problem with overlay in my system. I thought that splitter may causes it: Now I am using the latest Haali splitter, but I have also tried with Gabest's. It's not a splitter problem. Strangely, VLC can play everything correctly, so it seem's that is a DirectShow-related problem.
I have read here http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=120179 that there was a similar problem which was being caused by the "simple blocks" setting of mmg in v1.8. I tried to demux and remux the streams with v2.0.2 (with "simple blocks" setting on and off), but the problem persists. Anyway, I have never used this particular hack, so I think that the source of my issue is elsewhere. I have also tried with some .mkv files muxed with v1.7.0, which I remember that was OK and now have this problem with subtitles.
I really don't know why this problem appeared gradually the last days in my system. I have uninstalled almost every relative program in an effort to find out what may interfere with my playback or configuration. Has anyone any ideas?

setarip_old
24th February 2007, 22:14
not enough paragraphs. Enter your text and try again.What "check" is referring to, is the fact that your rather lengthy postings are virtually UNREADABLE due to a lack of proper paragraph spacing and structure.I have disabled the System Restore. I consider it useless, as many times doesn't work.Well, this appears to be one time that it might have proven to be useFUL, rather than useLESS. I've personally found it to be a "real lifesaver" on several occasions...