Anydvd-hd beta is out!!

[setarip_old]

@Tinker06

Hi!

have you played the ORIGINAL, commercial disc on the same system - to see if IT plays with these occasional "minor stutters"?

[Tinker06]

@Tinker06

Hi!

have you played the ORIGINAL, commercial disc on the same system - to see if IT plays with these occasional "minor stutters"?

Yes I played them using the 360 addons (3) with various HTPC's with no issues and no probm wihen attached to the 360 either.

[drbanner70]

drbanner70 here. I just tried the AnyDVD HD program and wanted to report my two cents. It does, in fact, work great as it is. And if this is the BETA, I wonder what the STABLE will be like.

After I installed the product AnyDVD-HD on my computer and rebooted, I then created a new empty folder in My Documents and named it the name of one of my HD DVD disc. I then placed the original disc into the X BOX 360 add-on drive, went to My Computer and opened up the drive to see the files on the disc. The files, if you installed the product right and rebooted, should be renamed automatically. You should see now -ADV-OBJ, HVDVD_TS, ANYDVD HD, and SLY!. Then I just highlighted those four files and dragged and dropped them into my new empty folder of the movies name I made, in this case An American Werewolf In London. It took about 45 minutes to fully copy the files over on my Pentium 4.
After that, I opened up Cyberlinc PowerDVD 7.1 (others have been saying 7.2 but mine is version 7.1), at the bottom I picked the source "Open movie file from Hard Disc Drive" and point to the new folder you made with the new files copied over. I clicked OK and the movie started playing right away, WITH NO PAUSES FOR HDCP HANDSHAKES!, obviously! So you people without the HDCP compliant systems will be pleased!
Two things I also observed. Whenever I play movies from the HD DVD 360 add-on, I might experience a skip here and there while the movie is playing. While watching the new file I backed up with PowerDVD 7.1, I didn't experience ANY skips while watching the files. The movie played smoothly for me. I will test with other movies. I own about 15 HD DVDs right now, with The Fog on its way!
Also, not to sound like an idiot, but I had thought at one time my menus for HD DVDs weren't working properly. I was trying to switch between Play , Setup, Special Features with my pointer like I do when I watch Standard DVDs on my computer with WinDVD. I "accidentally" found out I could toggle between menu options with the arrow keys on my computer keyboard. Up and down to switch between options, then side to side arrows to access those selected options. Then Enter to select your new option. I experimented with this as some people were reporting in the forums the menus worked fine for them while others were reporting they didin't have ANY menu functions. I just wanted to point this out to everyone who was having problems with menu options. I use the pointer to switch between options with Standard DVD but I have to use the arrow keys on the keyboard to switch between options for HD DVD.

My final thoughts are that, even though this is a good program (AnyDVD-HD), I will have to agree with Blutach in that you people should continue with making your own program. All of you contributing will be able to add whatever options you want to your OWN program. AnyDVD-HD is fine but we are still left with a folder on our computers. So this is still only a beginning, or at least the next step. I know some of you want to be able to back up the movies onto Standard DVD or DVD-9 discs so that would be the next step of demuxing, transcoding, whatever you guys would think would need to be done to accomplish this. So PLEASE continue to work on your own programs as well!

[bass4040]

I get major stutters and skips throughout using PD 6.5 from the hd or disk, fine with backuphddvd. Maybe its PD 6.5 unless others say not.

[gdestiny]

I get major stutters and skips throughout using PD 6.5 from the hd or disk, fine with backuphddvd. Maybe its PD 6.5 unless others say not.

i am using PDU 7.2 and w/ batman begins, i did notice some very slight skip.

but it is very easy to use. just insert your HD-DVD into the xbox 360 drive connected to a PC, copy the files over to your HDD and the files are decrypted on fly. no need to mess around w/ any keys.

[bass4040]

Upgraded to PD 7.1 and runs smooth now.

[BLACKBIRDxx]

ive been wondering how long this program will work for. nobody has really mentioned if there are countermeasures that can be implemented to defeat it.

[blutach]

Your crystal ball is as good as anyone else's - since the source code has not been released (and never will be), how are we to know?

Regards

[2bigkings]

by the way, slysoft released a new beta version of anydvd hd. now with BLU-RAY Support!! But i don't own a BD-Drive, so i can't test it..

http://sandbox.slysoft.com/beta/SetupAnyDVD6128.exe

regards

[bob0r]

When i try that anydvd on a mounted dumped .iso:

Summary for drive X: (AnyDVD 6.1.2.8)
SN2546T ZXT794L 2.0B
Drive (Hardware) Region: 0 (not set!)

Media is a DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 4718592 sectors (9216 MBytes)
Video Blu-Ray label: 19131642_SWAT_D2
Media is not AACS protected.

hehehe, it says media not AACS protected..... at least we know how they do it, shouldn't they like.... provide the sourcecode?


.... it does however makes powerdvd believe the mounted .iso has no AACS.

[2bigkings]

and it runs fine without any problems? :-)

[thevoiceover]

.... it does however makes powerdvd believe the mounted .iso has no AACS.

It doesn't play it though.... So how do you speculate they get these keys?

[mrazzido]

i try to rip a Blu-Ray yet , :-) ripping in progress...

[2bigkings]

it should work fine, new version support blu-ray region code removing :-)

[mrazzido]

yeaj it workxx fine :-) great :-)

[woodspire]

Have you tried to decrypt an iso file mounted with daemon tools ?

[mrazzido]

yeah it does´nt work , anydvd says this movie is not aacs protected.


@ anydvd when you read here :-D

make a option where we can put manual the key inside.

i think some peoples copied the iso´s on hd , and have the keys from the key page.


me too i have 10movies on hd (crypted) and the keys , muslix tool work when i mount the cryped iso .

when we have the manual option in anydvd , anydvd can ripp these title´s then :-)

[bob0r]

But there is still no way to aquire this key from the .iso right?
You MUST have a bluray (or hddvd) hardware player to get the key, right?

.... or?

[ShadowFlare]

The reason it does not work is likely that AnyDVD HD is unable to get the volume ID from the iso image of the disc, since this is obtained through some communication with the drive. This information most likely does not exist in the iso image, since some authentication needs to be performed before the drive will give it out.

Hmm, if a full dump could somehow be made after authentication, could it be possible to have an image file that does contain the volume ID?

[arnezami]

From what I understand about isos they do not contain the parts inside the Protected area (and currently probably also not the Burst Cutting Area). Those are the places the Volume ID is stored.

So: No. AnyDVD or our own program (which will use the Host Private Key) will not be able to retrieve the Volume ID. However if you already have retrieved the VUK from the origional this doesn't matter: a program (like BackupDVD) can still decrypt it. AnyDVD doesn't support purely VUK-based decrypting (yet) afaik.

This is slightly different from a real bit-by-bit copy of a disc. Here I'm not sure how much is actually copied. Certainly not the BCA. But if a Volume ID can be retrieved from a Rewritable disc (which is a nice experiment! :)) then maybe we could re-encrypt the title key file and make sure it works in every player. But this is not certain.

Technically Daemon tools could add support for "fake Volume ID retrieval" which (for example) will always give a standard Volume ID (all zeros for example). Then when we create the iso we could also re-encrypt the Title Key file in the same way making it possible to play an encrypted iso. All highly speculative though.

[enantiomer]

So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior).

I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray.

I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.

[b@nned]

So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior).

I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray.

I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.
that's interesting, i wonder if anydvd will fix this

[guile]

So I'm testing AnyDVD HD version 6.1.3.0, and I have confirmed that it generates corrupted files. Using TSReader, I've found that AnyDVD HD yields several continuity errors in the decrypted m2ts files. One movie had 32 continuity errors sprinkled throughout. Upon playback, severe picture breakup could be seen at the exact points where the discontinuities are reported (using mpeg2repair). The same movie, decrypted with BackupBluray, had 1 continuity error, appearing only at the break between two m2ts (expected behavior).

I'm using a Sony BWU-100A in an ADS USB 2.0 enclosure. I've had this enclosure for a while and have had zero problems with it. I can play BD movies directly in PowerDVD without issue, as well as back up movies perfecly with BackupBluray.

I really like the convenience of this program but I'm afraid to use it for backups, so I'm sticking with BackupBluray for now.


I have the exact same drive and had (notice I said had?) the exact same problem. It is the enclosure, end of story. I just put the drive back in the machine...ZERO problems. Bite the bullet and put it back in.

g

[HyperHacker]

Seems odd that one program works and one doesn't if it's a hardware problem...

[guile]

Seems odd that one program works and one doesn't if it's a hardware problem...

I agree but...we don't know how he was making his backupbluray backup. I am inclined to think he did not just use backupbluray and go straight from the disc (because that usually can take between 2 and 4 hours), but I don't know. When I use backupbluray, I copy all the contents of the encrypted disc to my hd, then point backupbluray to the folder. I have never had a problem this way, at least so far.

g

[enantiomer]

I agree but...we don't know how he was making his backupbluray backup. I am inclined to think he did not just use backupbluray and go straight from the disc (because that usually can take between 2 and 4 hours), but I don't know. When I use backupbluray, I copy all the contents of the encrypted disc to my hd, then point backupbluray to the folder. I have never had a problem this way, at least so far.

g

Thanks for the suggestion to move the drive onto an IDE channel. Unfortunately Blu-ray drives are still too expensive to dedicate to just one PC, so external enclosures are the only practical way to use them on multiple machines.

I've used both methods you describe above to make backups, and BackupBluray does not corrupt files either way. Of course, it's much faster to copy the contents first to the hard drive, then decrypt.

There is no problem with the external enclosure. Rather the evidence points to AnyDVDHD likely using USB2.0 isochronous transfer mode to speed up data transfers. This occurs at the expense of introducing errors during transfer. Asynchronous transfers (with retries when CRC checks fail) will guarantee error-free copying. Slysoft needs to look into this.

[mrazzido]

hey! i ripped 3x times casino royal (bluray) with anydvd , the main movie file is after ripping
34.293.073.920 bytes the movie doenst played in POWERDVD / WINDVD Crashed

then i tried the java tool :D

(34.293.110.784 Bytes) only some bytes different.!!

the movie works great with windvd / powerdvd!

i think anydvd has a problem!