Blu-ray and AACS

[K40]

Hi mrazzido , thank you for the tip and the tool.
Will try it later ,i've got my BD-Burner just yesterday.
I noticed that a movie who is enforcing the region code does this only
together with a Softwareplayer.When the key is aviable
on the internet you can decrypt A and B enforced titels
without to change the region setting on the drive.
I did backup Terminator 2 , The Fifth Element and Lord of Wars.
BackupBluRay did need 4 hours for one movie.Is this usual
or is something wrong with my settings?

[Adbear]

Hi mrazzido , thank you for the tip and the tool.
Will try it later ,i've got my BD-Burner just yesterday.
I noticed that a movie who is enforcing the region code does this only
together with a Softwareplayer.When the key is aviable
on the internet you can decrypt A and B enforced titels
without to change the region setting on the drive.
I did backup Terminator 2 , The Fifth Element and Lord of Wars.
BackupBluRay did need 4 hours for one movie.Is this usual
or is something wrong with my settings?

I've backed up some of mine too, and they can take a good few hours each

[mrazzido]

i read the BD disk with DVDDECRYPTER "only read iso" to my hd (30-40mins) faster than with bblueray tool ,then mounted the CRYPTED movie with DM TOOLS , then use backupblueray with your virtual drive . backup 1200seconds for one movie.

[PepsiLee2001]

I got a problem.

there are three blu-ray titles have ths same hash code of CPSUnit00001.cci, but CPS Unit Key were different.

They are


75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Terminator 2 : Judgment Day |00/00/00|61B0F7CCFB372F34BC729AE68575DD91

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Kingdom of the Heaven (Jap) |00/00/00|7154C66FC9F5FD261CDBED3663851479

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=XXX |00/00/00|72B9A7683430B339DE99D37D05070A32



and another titles have the same problem


A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=House of Flying Daggers |00/00/00|B45529FF11A2E82BC051FA9454A5B1E1

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=UltraViolet |00/00/00|E3B97D702F712312F4CA28774579C087

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=S.W.A.T. |00/00/00|CD2EA76C6FAC27971C937AB60E6DCD1B

[mrazzido]

yeah pepsilee2001 i read this in the key thread dont know a solution for it , crazy that all files has same SHA1 :-/.

[Momotte]

I guess it will require that for BD disk, that we use a different file / method to ID the disk. Taking the disk title and adding it to the sha1 might be a good idea...

[He-Man]

I got a problem.

there are three blu-ray titles have ths same hash code of CPSUnit00001.cci, but CPS Unit Key were different.

They are


75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Terminator 2 : Judgment Day |00/00/00|61B0F7CCFB372F34BC729AE68575DD91

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=Kingdom of the Heaven (Jap) |00/00/00|7154C66FC9F5FD261CDBED3663851479

75673083FD45B39B1ACE02315523E3D242A17064=XXX |00/00/00|72B9A7683430B339DE99D37D05070A32



and another titles have the same problem


A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=House of Flying Daggers |00/00/00|B45529FF11A2E82BC051FA9454A5B1E1

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=UltraViolet |00/00/00|E3B97D702F712312F4CA28774579C087

A060DA91B326CD7A6DBF318D06EA89901AF83DA8=S.W.A.T. |00/00/00|CD2EA76C6FAC27971C937AB60E6DCD1B

Are the "MAC of PMSN" also the same for all discs?
It has been suggested using "MAC of PMSN" instead of SHA-1 for Blu-Ray since this would avoid any need of hash calculations in the software:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=941339#post941339

And likewise for HD DVD the "TKF MAC" should be used instead of SHA-1.

[HD Hell]

Have muslix and janvitos "left the building" - I don't see much going on these days to finish BackupBluray? (scratches head).

Without Volume Unique Key, isn't this tool just a curiosity piece but will never go far?

Sorry if I sound like a grinch :D I had just thought it would have been dusted now...

[d121]

Used BackupBluray tool with installing JDK 6 java. But no luck. Everytime run backupbluray in DOS, the result is : Could not find Blu-ray source O:

O: is bluray drive.

Any suggestion?

[blutach]

Have muslix and janvitos "left the building" - I don't see much going on these days to finish BackupBluray? (scratches head).

Without Volume Unique Key, isn't this tool just a curiosity piece but will never go far?

Sorry if I sound like a grinch :D I had just thought it would have been dusted now...Almost all your posts do sound this way.

Plus, their whereabouts is not for you to enquire about. What business of yours is it? They are private people, as we all are. Learn to respect that. As well, they owe you nothing!

I truly think you need to revise the way you post here.

Regards

[Adbear]

Another news: Samsung Blu-ray player can't play BDMV on BD-R or BD-RE, so now I try on the Panasonic BD-10. This is the cause of the fault. (ps: i still have problem of 2 Gb m2ts rip, and now I try several disc)

I agree about the players, The samsung doesn't play the file structure on writable discs. But have no problems with ripping the discs

[K40]

I compared Region A + B enforced BluRay movies and
Region free movies.I watched the index.bdmv files with Winhex.
In enforced movies the 1. line is 49 4E 44 58 30 32 30 30..
In regionfree movies it's 49 4E 44 58 30 31 30 30..
When the original index.bdmv file of XMen3 is deleted and
a index.bdmv file of a codefree movie is inserted ,the message
this is a region A movie doesen't show up and some menues
and trailers start playing.Of course it's not working correctly
because the file is from another movie.
So i modified the first line of the original file to 31 but when i
tried to play the structur the message about region A , can't
play on this player appears.There is the same 31 , 32 pattern
in MovieObject.bdmv , .clpi and .mpls files.
Maybe it must be changed everywhere.
Any other ideas?

[HyperHacker]

The fact that replacing that one file got it working tells us that no other files need changing. There are probably other places in that file, or possibly a checksum, that need to be adjusted as well. After changing that one byte, does it still play in whatever region it's supposed to play in?

[mrazzido]

Hey!!

i think there is a checksum check or anything.

i compare some movie´s

Ice Age II Eur/Ger

Ice Age II Us

Monster House Ger/Eur

Monster and Ice age ii (eur) are region B movies.

i see that all Region B movies has 02 XX 40

and Region A has 01 XX 40

, Region free 00 XX 40


http://s6.bilder-hosting.de/img/NBUKK.jpg


i play something with winhex and changed the bytes in the index.bdmv the movie doenst play then anymore in windvd. :-/ .

[K40]

If i change from 32 to 31 in the first line ,the movie plays
fine when the correct region is set in PWDVD 7.2 Ultra.
I don't have a BluRay drive connected to this PC,but
nevertheless i can change BluRay regions 5 times.
Then i have to uninstall/install PWDVD to have 5 changes again.
When i change the first values in the fifth line ,PWDVD also
can't play the structur anymore.
Question to mrazzido:Can you copy the index.bdmv and
MovieObject.bdmv from Ice Age2 US and paste them in the
EU version?Then something should be playable with region set
to A.

[mrazzido]

when i put the us files into eur version it works , but the disc structure between us and eur is different, windvd start to play chapter "23". i need more us file to compare difference i have only the bdmv files from us ice age II here
(thx pepsilee2001) :-).

eur. MovieObject.bdmv file size ist over 100kb
us. MovieObject.bdmv file size under 20kb :-/

i have this movie in eur version , the furgitve , monster house , kingdom of the heaven , full metal jacket,ice age II.

if any one have other region of this movie´s make a rar file with all files inside the BDMV directory (without stream files) .-(. and contact me for email adress.

[K40]

Thank's for testing,i see, it doesen't matter if it's the same
movie or a different one.I tried 4 different Codefree bdmv sets
with A enforced XMen3 with region set to B.Once the trailer was playing,
with an other bdmv file only the menue loop or a alternate
scene.When i use the XMen bdmv with EU version of B forced
Kingdom of Heaven,it plays the second half of the movie when
region set to A.
So the only way would be if we find out how to modify the
bdmv file correctly.

[guile]

i read the BD disk with DVDDECRYPTER "only read iso" to my hd (30-40mins) faster than with bblueray tool ,then mounted the CRYPTED movie with DM TOOLS , then use backupblueray with your virtual drive . backup 1200seconds for one movie.

Dvddecrypter won't work to create an iso for me. It just says "Disc not dvd". Any ideas? 3.5.4.0 Any help is MOST appreciated as this thing is CRAWLING!!

[bob0r]

@guile try this:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=955333#post955333


It's funny to see how HD and BD are now fully backupable, yet the size really makes this "process slow in many ways" :D

The studios should have pushed for 100 or more GB discs, better quality, less downloads.... i think the number of people downloading this would really have been very very low.

Spending all that AACS money on bigger discs would have been a better choise.... i think

[hajj_3]

bob0r, bigger size wont result in higher bitrates! it just means you can fit more video on a single disk e.g the office u.s s02 might be able to fit on 1 * 100GB blue-ray disc instead of several discs. the size increase would mainly be beneficial for pc use (backing up 100gb worth of data). as blue-ray and hd-dvd allow for about 3.5hrs ISH of video, films arent really over 3.5hrs.

[bachuka]

I have successfully backuped Invincible and Stealth, however, I'm having a problem with Transporter. Using Ape's bluray key finder, I wind up with 2 different CPS Key's for Transporter. Any help would be appreciated.

cps (1) - E9B1350578D3ED06C86C110007000000
cps (2) - 64E29C7329B49050821BC533BA5B762F

[K40]

If you have only 2 Keys to try,it's not that bad.
However, you will like the result with number 2.

[bachuka]

I tried them both but unfortunately, neither worked. Plus, I just realized my working backup of Invincible is only outputting 2.1 sound and not 5.1. Stealth backup is playing 5.1. Any comments anyone?

[dirio49]

I have successfully backuped Invincible and Stealth, however, I'm having a problem with Transporter. Using Ape's bluray key finder, I wind up with 2 different CPS Key's for Transporter. Any help would be appreciated.

cps (1) - E9B1350578D3ED06C86C110007000000
cps (2) - 64E29C7329B49050821BC533BA5B762F

If you read the whole, thread you would find out that, currently
Bluray backup program does not support multiple cps keys, only one.
Here is the quote

Here it is, alpha version of BackupBluRay V0.21!
This release is not for everyone! This is only for those who wants to experiment with early version of Blu-ray decryption.

Known limitations:

Don't support BD+
Don't support Volume unique key
Only support one CPS unit key per disc
I don't clear the HDMV_copy_control_descriptor in the stream.

that is what muslix was try to figure out, but nobody found a Blue ray movie that had multiple CPS keys at that time.

So to answer you question, nothing can be done now unless somebody updates the program ;)

[bachuka]

Ok, I made a dumb mistake. I was using powerdvd 6.6 and when I switched to v7.2 everything works now. So I guess backupbluray does work when there is multiple CPS keys since Transporter had 2.

[K40]

I checked my backup of Transporter US, decrypted with Key 2.
Everything is working with PWDVD 7.2 including DTS audio.

[ralferoo]

I have said this before. The only way they get round this is writing off the 150+ hddvds available at the moment and start again. Somehow I don't see them doing this.

We already have the keys so whatever they do its gonna be alot easier for us to locate them when we know what to look for.

The title keys and volume keys do not change. So I think it is over.
Sorry for being a long way behind the times in this thread, but this isn't strictly correct.

The point of AACS and the Subset-Difference key management is that they you start off with a large batch of keys that can play titles, but then individual keys can be remoked. In BD/HD-DVD the key reovcations are stored on the disc and used to generate that disc's encryption key from the player's key, so it is perfectly possible for all future releases to have whatever key has been discovered here revoked and to re-issue the software manufacturer with a new key that will play all new and old releases.

What won't happen is that they'll be able to retroactively revoke the keys allowed to watch the existing batch of discs, although there is absolutely nothing to stop them remastering all the titles with a new key so that they cannot be decrypted with this discovered key.

[psme]

There are a few new blu-ray recorders in Japan. The player plays normal blu-ray movie disc. It also has internal HDTV tuner for Japanese system. It can record those received HDTV program on blu-ray recordable disc. The recorded blu-ray is playable on a standalone blu-ray player just like a normal blu-ray movie disc.

I wonder if those recorded blu-ray disc can be rip like off-the-shelf blu-ray movie?

Too bad blu-ray rom/writer is still too much $$$ on PC...

regards,

Li On

[FoxDisc]

it is perfectly possible for all future releases to have whatever key has been discovered here revoked and to re-issue the software manufacturer with a new key that will play all new and old releases.

In fact, they won't even need to re-issue any new keys. (Issued keys are called "device keys" and they are used to calculate processing keys that lead to volume unique keys and title keys). The device keys the software player has now will work fine to calculate new processing keys needed to play existing titles and new titles.

[paranoid87]

there are a couple here too..but they are really expensive! just cant afford them presently..

[gonwk]

Hi Muslix,:)

Your URL in Post #59 does not work.:confused:

Thanks,
G!:thanks:

[DGMurdockIII]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140571

[Doom9]

You probably meant to say look at DumpHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=123111) or Blu-ray Disc Ripper (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=129663) as those are the state of the art Blu-ray rippers.