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dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 12:18
I'm tring to modify the source code of the ripper to scan every file of the source disc and not only the m2ts files.

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 12:28
Burning finished. The Samsung player reject the disc like PowerDVD: some content are still AACS encrypted.

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 13:04
I found my firts fault: I don't have to burn the AACS subdirectory.

The Samsung player still reject this disc (but I can play a BDAV movie that i produce with cyberlink powerproducer)

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 15:59
Another news: Samsung Blu-ray player can't play BDMV on BD-R or BD-RE, so now I try on the Panasonic BD-10. This is the cause of the fault. (ps: i still have problem of 2 Gb m2ts rip, and now I try several disc)

2bigkings
22nd January 2007, 16:07
good luck dvdguru.

HD Hell
22nd January 2007, 16:27
no
VC-1 is a WMV-9 type file
The good thing with Blu-Ray in regards to the backing up issue, is that the Blu-Ray encoded streams are formated the same as how satellite streams are.

So, if you can unencrypt the Blu-Ray discs, you can play them with just about any of the public domain or shareware stream players on the market. This includes the VC1 and AVC encodes, as long as you have the right codecs installed.

HD DVD uses different "wrappers" for the streams, so you require an HD DVD specific player, like Power DVD or Win DVD.

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 16:31
The Blu-ray encoded stream are encoded imo like AVC-HD, you need Elecard Mpeg Player with AVC pack if you want to play H264 format.

He-Man
22nd January 2007, 16:40
The Blu-ray encoded stream are encoded imo like AVC-HD, you need Elecard Mpeg Player with AVC pack if you want to play H264 format.
From what I have read most (if not all?) Blu-Ray movies are still MPEG2 encoded.
This is also the reason why tests shows the same movie available on both Blu-Ray and HD DVD has better picture quality on HD DVD than Blu-Ray Because HD DVD's are always VC-1 encoded and VC-1 is a better CODEC than MEPG2.

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 16:46
Yes, sure. At the moment we have 99% Mpeg2 but if you use Elecard Player with AVC pack you are 100% sure that you can play in HD every M2ts file.

HD Hell
22nd January 2007, 16:49
This release is not for everyone! This is only for those who wants to experiment with early version of Blu-ray decryption.

Known limitations:

Don't support BD+
Don't support Volume unique key
Only support one CPS unit key per disc
I don't clear the HDMV_copy_control_descriptor in the stream
Don't have any FAQ or document so far...

You have to provide your own CPS unit key.

The playback seems to work with VideoLan

Because I don't have any Blu-ray equipment, I will need the help of the community to go further with Blu-ray decryption.

I have only test this with one video file...

Stay tuned!

Link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/li9x37
Thanks for this, muslix.

How come you do not yet support the Volume Unique Key? It seems that this utility would not soves its end goal unless we start to find some VUKs, since the Title keys so far are only good for a few specific files...

Any thoughts?

HD Hell
22nd January 2007, 17:01
I just saw this post online - Here are some Bluray Volume Unique Keys that have been reported:

Lord of War
CPS unit key : 07AD32DEC15BDA7F2263A5E9025D9185
Volume Unique key : C7149A7F4CC8E31C00E1C61CABE4595E

Goodfellas *WORKING*
CPS Unit Key: 49445D1F8ACCE0CC713DC168A93446D6
Volume Unique Key: 3490648EFF01012B5F554B3A3FDDC50C

5th Element
CPS Unit Key: 990596AB09F9932BB546C2235655D3E7
Volume Unique Key: 810562E69B417609A078C925E7FC24B2

The Devil's Rejects
CPS Unit Key: 043B1093978E743B6591020CF2F905B0
Volume Unique Key: 9921F244D33538C0E129E59CA0E8AA89

Terminator 2
CPS Unit Key: 61B0F7CCFB372F34BC729AE68575DD91
Volume Unique Key: 6D812383CEBFBEE2CF588C5588EC15C6

Corpse Bride
CPS Unit Key: 7EEE1A969D636F0A567A2DB236377E2A
Volume Unique Key: DB41AF50CBF9CD672B2730B666301C95

Was in a news story here:

http://www.fixxx.dk/

2bigkings
22nd January 2007, 17:05
@hdhell, they got the keys from this site! look at the thread "Blu-Ray Volume Keys".

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 17:12
Uhm, i need help on configuration of "CPSKey.cfg" file.
There is the HASH for the identification of the disk, and then i don't know if i need the CPS unit key or the volume unit key.


; Key database file for BluRay, pre-alpha version MM/DD/YY
B868CF7C280021D928B7EB9FF4047059085FF505=Lord of war |00/00/00|07AD32DEC15BDA7F2263A5E9025D9185
828C70988616E14EFE5471CA582BC4B2AF7E59D7=Quinto Elemento |00/00/00|810562E69B417609A078C925E7FC24B2


Is this file correct?

HD Hell
22nd January 2007, 17:14
@hdhell, they got the keys from this site! look at the thread "Blu-Ray Volume Keys".

:) Thanks - I figured as much! :) I have been away for a few days.

Can I suggest that the persons running the aacskeys and hdkeys websites start adding the BD keys to their sites as well?

Has anyone gotten a complete BD disc to decode properly yet, or are they still only having limited success with portions of the discs?

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 17:17
Still limitations. 2 Gb file, after a chapter the software halt.

HD Hell
22nd January 2007, 17:24
Still limitations. 2 Gb file, after a chapter the software halt.
Does anyone know why?

Is this only on test files dumped from a PS3, or is this also the case on files produced from PC drives?

Also, inregards to this question http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=941589&postcount=8 - what are the chances of a little program for the PS3 to allow the average user to decode a disc and back it up to their PC via the network connection?

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 17:26
PC drive. :cool:

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 17:46
Backup of 5th Element on a blank blu ray works on Samsung BD1000 !!!!!

muslix64
22nd January 2007, 18:18
As I said, this is an Alpha release, so its buggy... I know...

I don't have any Blu-ray equipment to do proper testing. I need your help!

I don't support volume key, because I'm not there yet.

To do more testing we need to find a Blu-ray movie with more than one CPS unit key per disc. Did someone find one?

If all movies have only one CPS Unit key, we are fine for now to use that key to decrypt... (instead of volume key)

HD Hell
22nd January 2007, 18:23
Can we just leave a Blu-Ray drive under a stone in a public park somewhere for you? :)

muslix64
22nd January 2007, 18:25
Good one! ;-)

BTW, Here is a new version:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/yvylle

mrazzido
22nd January 2007, 18:28
i have only one bd movie here tommorow i get more , i watched then if there are more keys.

dvdguru
22nd January 2007, 18:36
Good one! ;-)

BTW, Here is a new version:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/yvylle

I can confirm that this is good.
Ripped an entire movie.

mrazzido
22nd January 2007, 18:47
thx muslix64 it workx!!! good work!!

2bigkings
22nd January 2007, 20:27
hi muslix, i can't test it at the moment.. can you tell me what do you changed in the new version?
@dvdguru what burning program you used? give us details please..

best regards

muslix64
22nd January 2007, 20:35
File buffering and reading process was buggy... There is still some bugs that needs to be fixed. (Alpha version!)

HyperHacker
23rd January 2007, 05:30
Can we just leave a Blu-Ray drive under a stone in a public park somewhere for you? :)

That's kinda what I had in mind when I asked if there was somewhere I could send a donation. I really want to help with this, but I have neither $800 nor a BD drive. (In fact I swore off buying from Sony ages ago after the rootkit incident, and haven't done so since. I'd buy a BD drive to help crack it though :D except that's a lot of dough.)

Well I guess I can supply moral support then. Way to go!

inu-liger
23rd January 2007, 10:11
You can have a look at that file at:

http://rapidshare.com/files/12497232/00007decrypted.m2ts.html

File got removed 'cos of too many "complaints" :(

Btw. great work so far with your HD DVD / Blu-Ray decrypting efforts! Hats off to you!
I'd like to believe those rumours that you're from Canada, cos I'd buy you a beer if it were true! :D

zeroprobe
23rd January 2007, 10:45
canada can now be known for something..... lol

ernysmuntz
23rd January 2007, 11:14
There's lots of avanced talk on here, I have no idea what your all talking about (I've done some C++ in college and thats about it....:p )

But isn't this the point.

You got some sets of keys already, right?

So if a software player is upgraded, the new release of the player will use some advanced techniques to hide the keys, and it can be certain it will act the same for all discs (Use the same advanced technique always).

But you've already got the keys for some discs, so just search for the current keys you know when playing a disc thats already known in the new player, I'm sure Muslix64 etc, will be able to find out how the algorithm works by doing a search for the known key?

Therefore no matter what player is released with whatever advanced key hiding rubbish you will always be able to find out the algorithm\process being used with your known key.

And apply it to new titles, that won't play in the old player.

BD+ is said to be impossible to implement in the real world....

So its over, right?

ernysmuntz
23rd January 2007, 11:17
Sorry, I obviously don't know what I'm talking about :) Just the idea, is that not how easy it is for you programming wizards?

K40
23rd January 2007, 13:27
Some Blu-ray Titles have Region Codes.
If a PC Blu-ray Burner is set to Region B,would it still
work to decrypt a Region A Disc with BackupBlu-ray if
the Key is known??

zeroprobe
23rd January 2007, 14:23
There's lots of avanced talk on here, I have no idea what your all talking about (I've done some C++ in college and thats about it....:p )

But isn't this the point.

You got some sets of keys already, right?

So if a software player is upgraded, the new release of the player will use some advanced techniques to hide the keys, and it can be certain it will act the same for all discs (Use the same advanced technique always).

But you've already got the keys for some discs, so just search for the current keys you know when playing a disc thats already known in the new player, I'm sure Muslix64 etc, will be able to find out how the algorithm works by doing a search for the known key?

Therefore no matter what player is released with whatever advanced key hiding rubbish you will always be able to find out the algorithm\process being used with your known key.

And apply it to new titles, that won't play in the old player.

BD+ is said to be impossible to implement in the real world....

So its over, right?


I have said this before. The only way they get round this is writing off the 150+ hddvds available at the moment and start again. Somehow I don't see them doing this.

We already have the keys so whatever they do its gonna be alot easier for us to locate them when we know what to look for.

The title keys and volume keys do not change. So I think it is over.

Galileo2000
23rd January 2007, 16:33
I have said this before. The only way they get round this is writing off the 150+ hddvds available at the moment and start again. Somehow I don't see them doing this.

We already have the keys so whatever they do its gonna be alot easier for us to locate them when we know what to look for.

The title keys and volume keys do not change. So I think it is over.

..and even if they do write off existing titles, go back to the drawing table, rewrite the specification, kill all standalone players, new scheme will be broken as well shortly after release.

Hell, Jeff Goldblum was able to hack into aliens network using his Apple notebook :D

I think it is over too.

ernysmuntz
23rd January 2007, 17:07
They simply aren't going to blacklist all discs released until now, to even contemplate that this is somehow a possibility is ignorance beyond belief.

....Just to clarify :)

(Obviously not implying that posters on this page are implying that it is anything more than a theoretical way out, there is some talk from a few that this could actually happen):p

VinnyCThatWhoIBe
23rd January 2007, 17:11
Muslix64 and Janvitos, you guys are my heroes! I wish I could do that sorta stuff!

LOL this is hilarious!!

He-Man
23rd January 2007, 17:18
They simply aren't going to blacklist all discs released until now, to even contemplate that this is somehow a possibility is ignorance beyond belief.

....Just to clarify :)

(Obviously not implying that posters on this page are implying that it is anything more than a theoretical way out, there is some talk from a few that this could actually happen):p
Guys please stop this speculation about key revocation in this topic and keep it in the topic already created for this kind of speculations instead:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121115

Let's keep this topic on topic about the current Blu-Ray encryption alogrithm instead.

berger_stahl
23rd January 2007, 17:50
Muslix64 and Janvitos ..... you guys rock http://www.evilclubempire.com/ubb/graemlins/yourock.gif

ernysmuntz
23rd January 2007, 18:48
sorry :o :)

Janvitos
23rd January 2007, 20:04
Just to let you people know, i too successfully decrypted an entire blu-ray movie.
I am now burning it to a BD-RE disc and will let you updated with the results.

Please remember that this is purely for backup purposes.

XKCorp
23rd January 2007, 20:49
Good job muslix64 & Janvitos!

What was the problem with file buffering?
I simply added buffering to BackupHDDVD, the source of BackupBluRay is nearly the same in that part. Perhaps my fix don't work with the BluRay version, perhaps not? :confused:

To help you know, I have added the same fix to backupbluray, try it and if it works great look at DecryptBluRayMedia.java, other sorry for wasting your time ;)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/u79sqn

COREiP
23rd January 2007, 20:50
haha you guys rock. Its funny how they spend countless hours and millions of dollars on useless protections.

Janvitos
23rd January 2007, 20:55
I just burned the movie "Corpse Bride" on a BD-RE disc and guess what... It plays back in WinDVD !!!

puppydg68
23rd January 2007, 21:04
I just burned the movie "Corpse Bride" on a BD-RE disc and guess what... It plays back in WinDVD !!!

are you able to get to a ps3 and test?

Janvitos
23rd January 2007, 21:08
Unfortunately i don't have a PS3 but i guess i could buy one and return it :)

kuklitis
23rd January 2007, 21:24
I just burned the movie "Corpse Bride" on a BD-RE disc and guess what... It plays back in WinDVD !!!
CONGRATULATIONS ! WE reached yet another milestone :)
Now we can start to think about semi-profesional piratism :D All we need is a PC device (Blu-Ray reader or burner), blank media, BackUPBluray utility to rip and decrypt and of corse the key would be WinDVD software that allows playing on PC monitor or other devices full 1920x1080 res. without any HDCP stuff. It know looks like it would be more easier paas friends and other eager people those BD-R media with movies - just pop in into PC drive and watch without any moving to local HDD and other rather complicated stuff ...

aerox87
23rd January 2007, 22:20
Nice job Janvitos ;)

Too bad that 1 BD-R 25GB costs $17 and BD-R 50GB is over $30 :(

kuklitis
23rd January 2007, 22:38
Yes, prices are still high and if you are lucky you can get BD-R for 12$-14$. And the worst still is that prices for media stays in the same level alreday fro some 4 month ! :( It's about time to start gradually falling by 1$ a mont to some 7-8$ level !
-----------------
Just did some quick search and this seems just the better deal right now :
>>>
FUJIFILM 25GB 2X BD-R(Blu-ray) Single Disc - Retail for 13.99$ at NewEgg with FREE shipping

And this is strange that there are almost no multi packages present into market. Only one offer for 5 package and some for 2 package BD-R media and no significant price gain with those :(

2bigkings
23rd January 2007, 22:40
yes, european prices are a little bit higher.
burn a movie on a BD-R is at the moment very expensive, to save data from your HD it's perfect media.

evdberg
23rd January 2007, 22:51
Too bad that 1 BD-R 25GB costs $17 and BD-R 50GB is over $30 :(

All the more reason to buy the original if you like the movie ...