New E4300 Core2Duo, availability and possibilities

[jeffy]

The CPU was at 39 degrees Celsius after running Orthos for 4 hours!!

I hope these are Core temps: :D
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
(FYI thermal spec. 61.4 degrees of Celsius)
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TB

[Dexter1979]

It was what it said in the Bios after reboot. :)

I downloaded core temp and it's telling me the CPU gets no hotter then about 48 under full Orthos load. Not bad considering it's overclocked now at 2.52Ghz (280 FSB) :D Will check the log when I'm back home. Thats after about 4 hours of Orthos. Should be good.

[arfster]

There are 2 temps: TCase, and TJunction. Intel TAT shows one, it shouldn't go over 65. Coretemp and most other apps show the other, and it shouldn't go over 50.

[Dexter1979]

I ran Intel's TAT for about 20 minutes and the both cores went up to 53. I am happy with that to be honest. They can take a beating and 53 is respectable on stock cooling. :)

When I run Orthos and CoreTemp they don't go over 50 after 4 hours running. So I'm 'Cool'.. :rolleyes:

[jeffy]

There are 2 temps: TCase, and TJunction. Intel TAT shows one, it shouldn't go over 65. Coretemp and most other apps show the other, and it shouldn't go over 50.

For Core 2 Duo Desktop:
Thermal Specification: The thermal specification shown is the maximum case temperature at the maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP) value for that processor.

61.4 C for E4300
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9TB
Where did you get Tcase... 50C?
TJunction is 85, for Quad cores 100C.
Anyone, please, correct me if I am mistaken and supply reference links.

Also:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/howitworks.html

[Dexter1979]

I have seen forums where peopl run their Core Duo at 60 degress without worrying. Temperature doesn't worry me. Mine is running just fine. Might try and reach Did's overclock and see what the temps are then :devil:

[BigDid]

I have seen forums where peopl run their Core Duo at 60 degress without worrying.
Hi,

Jeffy has also specified :
Thermal Specification: The thermal specification shown is the maximum case temperature at the maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP) value for that processor.
So we are discussing about the max CASE temperature and not the max PROC temperature which is not reported "as is" by the different monitoring tools: Speedfan 4.32-Coretemp(Tcase temp) vs T.A.T(Tjunction temp)
More here: http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core-Duo-Temperature-Guide-ftopict221745.html
The author explains well that a C2D can:
- be hot at 60°Tcase / 75°Tjunction
- throttle at 65°Tcase / 80° Tjunction
- shutdown(the mobo) at 70°Tcase / 85° Tjunction

Temperature doesn't worry me. Mine is running just fine
Sure, as long as it is reported below 65° by Coretemp or Speedfan 4.32
Might try and reach Did's overclock and see what the temps are then :devil:
See signature, running at 9*297= 2670mhz, rock stable. All processor temps being Tcase.
Actually with a room temp around 33°C, 3/12cm fans (1 front/push, 1 side/push, 1 rear/pull), Coretemp and Speedfan, I have an idle temp between 38-40° and a burn (encode) temp between 49-51°
The speedfan config makes the stock fan runs at +- 930rpm below 40°, +-1750 rpm below 52° and +-2750 rpm above 52 (which I don't reach atm) :D

Did

[Dexter1979]

See signature, running at 9*297= 2670mhz, rock stable. All processor temps being Tcase.
Actually with a room temp around 33°C, 3/12cm fans (1 front/push, 1 side/push, 1 rear/pull), Coretemp and Speedfan, I have an idle temp between 38-40° and a burn (encode) temp between 49-51°
The speedfan config makes the stock fan runs at +- 930rpm below 40°, +-1750 rpm below 52° and +-2750 rpm above 52 (which I don't reach atm) :D
Did
I have a idle of 27 :)
I'D say I would be able to pass you out because of my DDR2 but that is just a theory. I will try and reach your overclock if you are still running stock fan.

Dex

[BigDid]

I have a idle of 27 :)
I'D say I would be able to pass you out because of my DDR2 but that is just a theory. I will try and reach your overclock if you are still running stock fan.
Yes, I am still running stock-fan :p (the smiley is because I stated it 3 times already, last being in my last post ;) )

You are welcome to try and I hope you will succeed.

When I have time, I will post the Dual775 settings as a basis but I think it will be useful only for people having:
- 2*DDR1 memory sticks and
- an AGP graphic card

Did

Edit: I am still running the stock-fan cause I, now, have some airflow from the side fan on the mosfets and the NorthBridge and, after tests, that doesn't change the max overclock. As I am nowhere near an overheating zone, I won't need to change the stock-fan ATM.

[foxyshadis]

But how are you ever going to get 6 GHz on a stock fan?? Think for the future, man! If your system doesn't dim neighborhood lights when you turn it on, it's never going to be able to encode fast enough. ;)

[BigDid]

@foxyshadis
I wont get 6Ghz cause I'm using "deprecated technologies" :p

@all
I just upgraded to speedfan 4.32 and I can now see the temperatures problems.

I believe that the cpu (temp2) is accurate as a Tcase temp cause it is coherent with my ambient temp; early this morning the ambient temp was 27° and the cpu (Tcase) was 35°. What is not coherent is core1/2 temp (should be Tjunction) was at the same time 27° instead of being around 50°(35+15).
I'll need to make more tests, but I am afraid that speedfan 4.32 (core1/2) and coretemp do not report correctly the Tjunction temp for the 775Dual-VSTA. I'll also try TAT and update later.

Did

[Inventive Software]

@foxy: where the hell did you get 6 GHz from???? :p

[foxyshadis]

You don't remember all the OC nuttiness (http://www.nordichardware.com/news,4970.html) from last summer? :p

[Dexter1979]

I suppose having a E4300 at 3ghz would in theory give you 2 x 3 = 6Ghz.. I have seen dual core CPU's advertised like that on ebay. :)

I need to figure out what the problem is with my RAM. Might take it out and reseat it. I have been getting BSOD's with IRQL errors. Probably RAM related. Will investigate and report back. On the temperature issue, my room temp here is bout 20 so I am happy with the temps Coretemp is giving me. Might try speedfan just for comparison. TAT is wicked for temp testing. Don't think your CPU will ever be stressed that much in real life.

[Dexter1979]

Did,

Did (LOL) you try TAT yet? (This sentence is hillarious when you say it 3 times fast :p ) I haven't had a chance to try it yet but I took out my RAM and put it back in, Also did the same with the graphics card. I am going to try and reinstall all drivers and see if it gets rid of the IRQL blue screens that I have been getting. My overclock is still at 2.4 and I am happy to stick with that.

On a different matter, what would be a good program to convert Xvid AVI's to DVD? I'd like to get my new rig converting. See how much faster it is. :)

[jeffy]

Did,

Did (LOL) you try TAT yet? (This sentence is hillarious when you say it 3 times fast :p ) I haven't had a chance to try it yet but I took out my RAM and put it back in, Also did the same with the graphics card. I am going to try and reinstall all drivers and see if it gets rid of the IRQL blue screens that I have been getting. My overclock is still at 2.4 and I am happy to stick with that.

On a different matter, what would be a good program to convert Xvid AVI's to DVD? I'd like to get my new rig converting. See how much faster it is. :)
:helpful: Shhh! Have you seen this yet? It used to be freeware... now shareware. But Afterdawn keeps the old version:

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_encoders/vso_divxtodvd_free.cfm

Regarding your IRQL: MemTest, MemTest, MemTest, beware, according to Corsair, it is necessary to turn off USB Legacy Support in BIOS before running it.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=962040#post962040
(Ref. Official Corsair Memory Support Forum, there might be a BIOS related bug :(, http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38201)

EDIT:
BTW, read the link above carefully and test sticks one at a time.
Why? The clues are there.
/EDIT

[BigDid]

Did,

Did (LOL) you try TAT yet? (This sentence is hillarious when you say it 3 times fast :p ) I haven't had a chance to try it yet but I took out my RAM and put it back in, Also did the same with the graphics card. I am going to try and reinstall all drivers and see if it gets rid of the IRQL blue screens that I have been getting. My overclock is still at 2.4 and I am happy to stick with that.
Hi,

Yes but it confirms the link given; TAT gives the Tjunction temp which is 15° more than the Tcase temp given by coretemp (0.94) or Speedfan 4.32 (core1/2) and people in the hardware forums (french) reacts like here: funny temps :confused:

On a different matter, what would be a good program to convert Xvid AVI's to DVD? I'd like to get my new rig converting. See how much faster it is. :)
+1 with jeffy for the freeware version (divxtodvd) of the good shareware convertxtodvd;
There is also another freeware given here in Doom9 but I just cannot remember the exact name, maybe avitodvd or Diko ...

I will be out for 2 weeks so I'll just be able to pop up from time to time. See you later.

Did