BackupHDDVD, a tool to decrypt AACS protected movies

[blutach]

I guess this hack will boost HDDVD very much now in
the future !
I might myself buy now a XBOX HD-DVD rom drive
and rent some HD-DVD movies, if I can make backups.

Also if HD-movies would come out at the same
day as they are released in the movie theater and are
not sold much higher than a movie ticket, I also would
just buy them !

All this DRM crap is stupid.

It just doesn´t make sense...
I will not go to a movie theater to see a movie
and be annoyed by the big guy in front of me,
who has an Afro look hair and makes noise
with his popcorn bag...
I just want to have the movie at home myself...
I just collect movies and I don´t sell them...

Now we have to rent the movies, copy them
and recode them to DVD-R, which is very time
and work consuming...

I would love to pay 5 to 10 Euros for a HD movie
to download online, if it would be much easier and
would be availabe on the first day, the new
movie is released into the movie theaters..Such a blatant post about how you copy material you do not own is clearly against the spirit and intention of rule 6. I have warned users about this previously in this very sensitive thread.

Strike issued.

As well, I fail to see what a person's hair has to do with it. Please be more polite on this forum.

Regards

[hartiberlin]

Sorry,
no disrespect to someone´s hair style...
but if you go a movie theater, pay around 8 to 12 Euros
Entrance and get a seat, where somebody in front of you is
very tall and has a hair style, that affects your sighting of the
screen display and some people in your
neighboorhood crackle with their popcorn bags all
the time, so you don´t understand the audio at all...

then I would like to stay at home and better watch
the movie on my 32 inch TFT flatscreen and
can lay in my bed and have a drink with it
during watching it and pause, if I have to go to the
toilet or someone calls...

[blutach]

You are extremely close to a 3rd strike hartiberlin. Stay on topic.

Regards

[hartiberlin]

I have clearly stated,
that I would like to avoid copying discs
and just buy the movies online,
also with DRM , if it is userfriendly and the license
is valid at least for one year.

I really would like to have new HD movies in an easy
to download format and would like to pay for this
also.

But the current offers are no good
and are more expensive than a movie theater ticket.

And be realistic... how many times do you really
watch a movie twice ?
Very limited number of titles which are your favourite movies, but
many titles you would only collect and never watch twice..

Okay, sorry, for being offtopic again.

I guess we should wait for the new version on Jan. 2nd.
Then we can see, if he will deliver a workable solution...

[hajj_3]

think im gunna pencil in jan 2nd in my diary (maybe a should buy a diary first thinking about it!).

i have a suspicision that the author will prob never post in here again nor release a new version. its been about 4 days without a word from him!

[trbarry]

Each day that goes on without someone else actually providing a key or at least confirming spotting one makes me more skeptical this is real.

- Tom

[0xdeadbeef]

What a crap,
just keep the PowerDVD Version you have now
and uninstall a newer Version.
Or install Windows XP again and then install
the old PowerDVD Version again...


Let's see

[ ] You know how the revocation mechanism works
[ ] You understood any of my posts
[x] You don't have a bloody clue what you're talking about

1 out of 3 !

[Zag]

What a crap,
just keep the PowerDVD Version you have now
and uninstall a newer Version.
Or install Windows XP again and then install
the old PowerDVD Version again...

This way you always have access to the old
Version....


I am afraid you are not understanding...once this version of PowerDVD is blacklisted it won't work anymore with newer released titles. The newer released HD-DVDs will know that this version of powerDVD has been compromised and will refuse to work. You either update to a newer version of powerDVD or you are stuck with only be able to play the old (150 or so HD-DVD) titles that have come out up to now.

[Atamido]

However if this approach fails (and it sure will) the first time you run it, there are too many factors which could be the reason for this: Chill. Since no on is likely to be doing this, it's all academic anyway. I was providing a specific solution to a specific answer, not trying be the best.

[calinb]

Each day that goes on without someone else actually providing a key or at least confirming spotting one makes me more skeptical this is real.I agree. It's amusing that many news outlets are reporting that HD-DVD has been cracked or compromised, based on the YouTube video and the claims posted here. As we all know, it's far from compromised as long as the keys remain secure. The only upside to this attention is an elevation of public consciousness about the DRM issue. The U.S. National Public Radio spot that aired yesterday had a nice segment on consumer rights vs. DRM while reporting that HD-DVD had been compromised.

[Gradius]

So, has anyone with hardware (HD-DVD) and couple titles confirm this working? If you don't know, nobody said that yet. :logfile:

[Soulhunter]

Maybe its just a tricky campaign from the BluRay camp and muslix64 works for sony! ;D

A happy new year @ all ~ Bye

[Zag]

The problem is that he gave very little (nothing really) information regarding how to obtain the Title keys. All he said was"

"I won't explain it in detail. Read the AACS doc first. You will understand.
The title keys are located on the disk in encrypted form, but for a
content to be played, it has to be decrypted! So where is the
decrypted version of the title key? Think about it..."

A lot of people saw the hash and thought that those were the keys so now they can't understand why no one has confirmed this. There are relatively few people that have the hardware then on top of that even fewer people that have the knowledge that can pull the keys out of where ever they are regardless how obvious he says it is.

[Pulp Catalyst]

screw the proxies and firewalls, and what ever else, go to public places like cybercafes and upload there, hard to trace you if you keep moving places,

and whilst your at it, use drive crypt, which protects a partition with powerful encryption, using a very long pass phrase,

but if you upload files from public terminals, the risk of getting caught if near enough 0%, but don't forget to goto to different places, several would be good,

happy new year to every one, and lets hope blue ray gets hit soon, to keep our fair right's alive, as i don't see any company out there that protects our rights, just goverment agencies protecting corporates companies.

well done, and there was me thinking DVD jon may of had this, still if you succeed, you will be more famous then DVD jon, as cracking AACS is suppose to be like moving mount everest, hehehe

still being known is being caught, can't crack a multi billion dollar encryption aswell as lost from profits from the films them selves and exspect to not get caught, only way to get a way with it, and that is not to be know, but one doesn't get fame that way,

depends what your motives are really, do you want to be known and play that game, or not be known, and not get caught,

i hope it's the latter, not because of what you can and can't do, but if you do go to court, you will be on your own, been there myself, can be scary when your on your own,

look after your self, and be as stealth as you can,

live long and prosper.

[DVDCake]

I've got the 360 HDDVD drive in hand. In the youtube video it shows that he is using powerDVD 6.5 . I'm only finding 7.0 online. Should I try to find 6.5 or go with 7.0?

DC

[glen8]

forget that

[lazyn00b]

I've got the 360 HDDVD drive in hand. In the youtube video it shows that he is using powerDVD 6.5 . I'm only finding 7.0 online. Should I try to find 6.5 or go with 7.0?

DC

You will almost certainly need the PowerDVD 6.5 HD version - trust me, it's out there, just keep looking. The newer PowerDVD Ultra will play HD DVDs also, but it may not have the vulnerability.

[Zutton]

Something not to overlook is that even if AACS has really been cracked, there is not that much of an advantage in backing up HD-DVD movies due to the inconvenience factor of storing movies on a hard drive.

Let's say an external 300GB drive can be had for $75, and that the average HD-DVD is 30GB. So, 10 movies can be stored on the drive at a cost of $7.50 a movie. Are people going to go out and buy dozens of external drives, label which 10 HD-DVD back-ups are on each drive, and then plug in a drive whenever they want to watch a given flick? Maybe. But until blank HD-DVD media is readily available and cheap, I don't think that Joe Six Pack will be interesting in casual copying of HD-DVDs to a hard drive backup.

[hajj_3]

true zutton, but you could convert the discs into x264 codec, say about 15gb. or even a 720p x264 and fit it on 1 dvdr.

we wont be getting cheap hd writers or media for 18+ months so no point even thinking about that!

[johner23]

See above:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20061230/tc_nf/49022

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=204039&highlight=BackupHDDVD

PS: does anybody will improve the program? Or create some GUI for it?

I hope more people put some updating work for BackupHDDVD in next versions, because (very soon) the industry will correct their security holes and make some updates in future high definition discs, just like they did before with WMA and WMV files ( DRM protection) or even new dvd discs releases.

Thanks.

[gooki]

PS: does anybody will improve the program? Or create some GUI for it?

No real need for a GUI at this stage (the command line structure is very simple), but for mass appeal, then yes one probably will be made.

I've got my HD-DVD drive on it's way, and 3 titles so just need to find out how to detect these missing "keys".

PS for people in countries that don't have the HD-DVD drive available for purchase, www.playasia.com have fair pricing on the device, and decent shipping rates.

[Gradius]

We'll know sooner or later, wait until day 2.

[hartiberlin]

..... You either update to a newer version of powerDVD or you are stuck with only be able to play the old (150 or so HD-DVD) titles that have come out up to now.


Yes, that is what I meant,
until today this version of PowerDVD will always be able to
play the current 150 titles.
I guess this is enough for a few tests...

[johner23]

See above:

--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackupHDDVD

The decryption methodology is similar to DeCSS, exploiting and extracting the weak player keys.

http://www.betanews.com/article/Studios_Take_Claims_of_AACS_Crack_Seriously/1167427818[/

http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Took_Eight_Days_to_Crack_HD_DVD/551-78152-581.html

And if you look for more news, you'll find a great amount of sites that talks about the program and his creator. LOL.

PS: it will be necessary (for those people who has proper knowledge about the subject) to open and study the player ( physically, I mean) to understand the way the things work, how to get the valid keys, etc?

More: people who can get some player for that high definition discs could test and post their results / experiences here, to help the author ( or capable people willing to help him) in BackupHDDVD's development and improvement for next versions. ;)

Thanks for help.

devil (johner)

[Deihmos]

See above:

--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BackupHDDVD



http://www.betanews.com/article/Studios_Take_Claims_of_AACS_Crack_Seriously/1167427818[/

http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Took_Eight_Days_to_Crack_HD_DVD/551-78152-581.html

And if you look for more news, you'll find a great amount of sites that talks about the program and his creator. LOL.

PS: it will be necessary (for those people who has proper knowledge about the subject) to open and study the player ( physically, I mean) to understand the way the things work, how to get the valid keys, etc?

More: people who can get some player for that high definition discs could test and post their results / experiences here, to help the author ( or capable people willing to help him) in BackupHDDVD's development and improvement for next versions. ;)

Thanks for help.

devil (johner)

Am I the only one who thinks this was a hoax?

[moonraker]

I might have missed something here, and forgive me if it's a stupid question, but: how did the decryption keys get into the memory if the software didn't let you play the HD-DVD ?

[dchard]

For those who need pdvd 6.5 hddvd:

just use search: ::EDITED BY NIC - No Warez! (Rule 6!)::

Not forget: just use only for the end of the trial period, and then buy it if you like it. I hope I not violating any rules by posting this.

Dchard

[crypto]

Am I the only one who thinks this was a hoax?

No! But for some reason all those who know how AACS really works, don't comment on this.

[Hotdog453]

I'm using the tool right now on "Fugivitive", so I'll let you all know how it works here in a few. If I'm not too busy crying if it works.

[trbarry]

I'm using the tool right now on "Fugivitive", so I'll let you all know how it works here in a few. If I'm not too busy crying if it works.

Hotdog453 -

Did you actually acquire a non-zero key somehow?

- Tom

[Hotdog453]

I mean I'm trying the tool on the disk. Not trying to do anything more clever or deep or witty.

As for a non-zero key, I have no idea what you're referring to. It appears to be working, as in, the files are growing, and it hasn't given me an error of any sort.

[Zag]

I mean I'm trying the tool on the disk. Not trying to do anything more clever or deep or witty.

As for a non-zero key, I have no idea what you're referring to. It appears to be working, as in, the files are growing, and it hasn't given me an error of any sort.


You'll end up with a worthless copy on your hard drive because you are not decrypting it, you are just copying it to the hard drive in its encrypted form. You need the title key to decrypt it otherwise you are just wasting time and hard disk space. There is a file that came with the tool called TKBD.cfg. This is the file that contains the title keys, right now you will see this:

CE6339246F34087AB355681DEB656D23DCD5BD86=Full Metal Jacket | 1-00000000000000000000000000000000
486198E3855B57CD40F6DC0C60645BDE8E1E9AC5=Van Helsing |19-00000000000000000000000000000000
B5A8E784B83E793AB246D0C5F7C148A39D7F4856=Tomb Raider 1 | 6-00000000000000000000000000000000
4ACABE525F5CBF77DAA43EA2B83E04918D5FA6D4=Apollo 13 | 1-00000000000000000000000000000000
3D357B0653A66176583C5218FD0149EAF8832FB0=The Last Samurai | 1-00000000000000000000000000000000
610CF1EB362D40050123E92F063D51AC05676F37=The Fugitive | 1-00000000000000000000000000000000


See all those zeros on the right? Thats where the title key for your movie goes. The numbers on the left (hash) mean nothing without the title key. You are supposed to find this key and place it there. Don't bother asking how to find the title key because no one is talking. Look at the FAQ that came with the software, he mentions it but basically you are on your own.

[Golgot13]

Hi all,

Happy new year 2007.

I test the tool and it don't work (in my Computer ?).
I have 50 HDDVD from many countries (US, Japan and Europe).

I have 2 titles which can "decrypt" (there is a key line in TKBD.cfg). No way to have a *.evo not encrypted:

The process work and copy the file on hard disk I compare the files in the HD DVD disc and
the hard disk, there is lot of difference).
But I can play NOT it with PowerDVD 6.5 and when I demux its, the elementary file are encrypted
(VC1 viewer see bloc with different colour,... ).

I think it was a problem of my PowerDVD 6.5 because I can not see HD DVD disc on my PC with it
(I use it to test my HD DVD authoring not encrypted on HDD).
I use in my home a X360 HDDVD drive (maybe the tool work only with HDDVD from NEC or Toshiba).


Censored.....



And if the crack of AACS will be public (in tool like dvdecrypter)
all major (video studio mike Warner, StudioCanal,...) will do only
BluRay disc. Because there are two other protections:
Rom maker and BD+.

Today the HD DVD file from HD DVD encrypted disc can copy on HDD
directly without out decrypter software!!!! :mad:
This is not possible with BluRay encrypted (AACS + BD+) and DVD (CSS)...




Golgot13

[cinemania]

Hi all,


Today the HD DVD file from HD DVD encrypted disc can copy on HDD
directly without out decrypter software!!!! :mad:

Golgot13

Hööö?

Without Decrypter Software ?

Don´t think so man ... BackupHDDVD is already a Decrypter when you have the key ;)

[Golgot13]

Hööö?

Without Decrypter Software ?


YES !!!!!!


Don´t think so man ... BackupHDDVD is already a Decrypter when you have the key ;)

In my home, I have X360 HDDVD drive and I copy the file on my hdd DIRECTLY.
If you search in the web you can find encrypted *.evo file...

It is crazy but you can test it and you will see...


Golgot13

[Gradius]

I see, I see.

But you cannot playback FROM HD, right ?

Now I'm starting to think that video (on tube) might be... fake.

Happy 2007 !

Gradius

[Golgot13]

I am not sure because there is on the web some files
from encrypted HD DVD (*.aca and *.evo).

Censored...........

There is on the web since beginning of december decrypted source
files from HD DVD...

If you search, you can find valid demuxers (HDDVD demux don't work),
DeACA, and somes tools for HDi.
I wait a software to Dolby Digital Plus.

I think before two months we will see on the web recode of HD DVD
on DVDR (in H264 and DD+, sure).

I surprise to see good professional tools on the web...



Happy new year 2007 !!!
Bonne annee 2007 !!!
S novum godom 2007 !!!



Golgot13

[Turtleggjp]

I don't think this program is a hoax, but rather it is not the easy one-click solution to decrypting HD-DVDs that we have become used to with DVDs. It's sort of like being given a Ferrari, but without the keys. The car cannot be driven with the keys, unless of course it is hotwired (and in this case, "hotwiring" HD-DVDs with their AACS protection is not easy).

I tend to see this program on the same level as video game console emulators. Although their existance is somewhat controversial, and disliked by the console makers, they are not illegal as long as they were created using only publicly available information (as this program claims to be). The trick is, the emulators are pretty much usless without the game ROM images for them to work on, just like this program is pretty much worthless without the keys. Game ROMs can be considered to be warez, and thus will not be as easily acquired as the emulators. The same will be true with the keys needed to make this program work.

I think this program is an excellent example of a first generation ripper (if it does indeed work). I only hope that a similar program can be written for Blu-Ray discs as well, so that the paranoid movie studios will have nowhere to run.

Matt

[Adub]

@Golgot13
Of course it didn't work all the way man! Have you been reading the forum? You don't have the keys that enable you to unlock the encryption. What you just did was copy the disk to your harddrive, still in it's encrypted form. Until someone can find the keys, or rather, find how to find the keys, then we will not be able to decrypt HDDVDs.

BackupHDDVD v.99 only works when you have the title keys in your tkdb.cfg file already. The file that is contained in the download has the keys zeroed out, so that means no decryption, yet.

[Golgot13]

Censored..........



I have "Appolo13" and "Full Metal Jacket" (to test key).


Golgot13

[tonyp12]

Also, if a movie is decrypted it can be recoded
into WMVHD or MPEG-4 H.264 or XVID-HD or DIVX-HD
or Nero-HD and stored onto a normal
DVD-R as a backup.

A HDDVD is 30GB,
and I would guess the main title is 15-20GB.

You will loose some quality if you try to squeeze it down to a 8.5G Dual layer DVDR.
Maybe you could get a decent 720p version out of it.

[bob0r]

Posting keys can be done so easily.

Like if you want to say: HELLO
Hi,

Everything is cool today.
London was very nice, and Lissa finally talked to me.
Oh man, its 2007 almost!

Spread the keys over 3 users, and nothing will hold ground in any court.

Or just give me the keys, ill post them anywhere, i live without laws :D

* awaits 2 jan ....

[hajj_3]

is the title key the same for every dvd of a certain film e.g apollo 13. so the key e.g sdfsdf234vdfgdsfg would be on every copy of apollo 13 sold?? if so that would be great for us, if someone found out the keys for every hd-dvd released it would help copying alot easier. then find the key of the hd-dvd itself.

im praying that this guy does come back, cos atm i think that he's a 1 poster and we wont hear of him again:(.

[Zag]

I would speculate that every copy of Apollo 13 that has been released up to THIS POINT has the same key. I am also willing to bet that future releases of Apollo 13 will have their key changed, it only makes sense.

[Golgot13]

A HDDVD is 30GB,
and I would guess the main title is 15-20GB.

You will loose some quality if you try to squeeze it down to a 8.5G Dual layer DVDR.
Maybe you could get a decent 720p version out of it.

With H264 codec, it's possible to encode HD video file 1920x1080
at 8Mbps (in France the ISP "Free" encode HD video at 6Mbps
in real time, and HD VoD file at 4.5Mbps in H264 from Ateme...)


Golgot13

[blutach]

Posting keys can be done so easily.

Like if you want to say: HELLO
Hi,

Everything is cool today.
London was very nice, and Lissa finally talked to me.
Oh man, its 2007 almost!

Spread the keys over 3 users, and nothing will hold ground in any court.

Or just give me the keys, ill post them anywhere, i live without laws :D

* awaits 2 jan ....You will please live within our forum rules irrespective of whether you obey the laws of your country.

Again, if any keys are posted, I will have no recourse but to issue strikes. All forum members need to be cognisant of rule 6 and the announcement at the top of this forum.

As well, bob0r, we are not interested in weather reports.

Regards

[Adub]

@hajj_3
Yeah, I believe that all the keys released so far are the same for that particular dvd.

The only problem is that "sdfsdf234vdfgdsfg" is not the key! Where the key would be located is where all of those 000000's are, right next to "sdfsdf234vdfgdsfg" in the tkdb.cfg file.

So, yes, if we knew the key, then it would probably be the same for all of the current Apollo 13 movies. Yet the fact is that we do not have nor know the key, so we are stuck at square 2. So to speak.

[DVDCake]

YES !!!!!!



In my home, I have X360 HDDVD drive and I copy the file on my hdd DIRECTLY.
If you search in the web you can find encrypted *.evo file...

It is crazy but you can test it and you will see...


Golgot13


What are you saying? You can copy HD DVD's to your XBOX hard drive?

[Adub]

No. He is using an external Xbox 360 HD DVD drive connected to his computer to copy the HD DVDs.

[DVDCake]

No. He is using an external Xbox 360 HD DVD drive connected to his computer to copy the HD DVDs.

Gotcha

I've got the same setup, waiting for more tools to find those keys.

BTW, did I mention how much I hate DHCP, no DHCP video card or compatable display and no workie. I guess thats why we are chatting in this thread to begin with. =]

~DC