Pro Version 1.20.x Beta Test

[godhead]

Certainly they work with NTSC. That's what I use. I mentioned it because I though that might be the source of the sync problem. Is it possible that disc was converted from NTSC to PAL using DGPULLDOWN? If so, that may be the key.


Do you think you might be able to send me the main VTS's D2V file and REBUILDER.ECL? I'd like to find out what's happening...

Thanks.


Don't mean to thread hijack, but since you mentioned it, any chance of getting DGPullDown support in DVD-RB for movie only PAL -> NTSC anytime soon? Yes I know there are cheap DVD players that support PAL, but I like my Pioneer DV-434 too much and I hate having to boot up XBMC just for the PAL movies. I figured DGPullDown support for movie only would have been easier to support than mobile encoding, but then again, maybe you'd bored of the normal DVD encoding and wanted something new. I now return you to your regularly scheduled beta thread.

[therat]

I think I see what the problem is. You're using one of the older versions of DGDECODE or MPEG2DEC3, probably v1.1.0 or below. I'll look at it and see if there is a way I can adjust for that.

It's DGDECODE SSE2 v1.1.1 by NaN

cheers

[therat]

I re-installed 1.20.4 and this time installed the DGDECODE.DLL that comes with DVD-RB PRO. The encode to AVI went perfectly with Any Which Way You Can, totally in sync.

One thing I did notice is that using the default DGDECODE.DLL the resultant AVI file was ~100mb larger than using the NaN DGDECODE.DLL tho the NaN version was slightly faster.

The difference in the log when using the 2 is interesting too.

DGDECODE.DLL from NaN

[12:32:23] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.20.4
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- CCE 2.70.2.9 encoder selected.
- "Movie Only" mode is enabled.
- Output in MOBILE format only.
- Audiostream (for mobile) is 0x80
- Source: ANY_WHICH_WAY_YOU_CAN
- VTS_01: 2,735,048 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 174,431 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 87.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,791/4,633Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,114,528KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 5,833/4,402/4,633 Kbs
[12:34:35] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 2 minutes.
[12:34:57] Phase II ENCODING started
- MOBILE Format: XVID (640x360), MP3 audio
- Encoding: VTS01_PGC_00001.AVS
[13:31:29] Phase II ENCODING completed in 57 minutes.


Default DGDECODE.DLL

[13:41:38] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.20.4
- AVISYNTH 2.5.6.0
- CCE 2.70.2.9 encoder selected.
- Output in MOBILE format only.
- Audiostream (for mobile) is 0x80
- Source: ANY_WHICH_WAY_YOU_CAN
- VTS_01: 2,735,048 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 174,431 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 79.7%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,524/4,419Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,924,460KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 5,328/3,510/4,419 Kbs
[13:43:52] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 2 minutes.
[13:43:59] Phase II ENCODING started
- MOBILE Format: XVID (640x360), MP3 audio
- Encoding: VTS01_PGC_00001.AVS
[14:44:20] Phase II ENCODING completed in 61 minutes.

Same movie yet all the numbers are different. Would a different DGDECODE.DLL cause that?

[Sharc]

I did two MOBILE encodes of the same movie:

For the 1st encode I selected an XviD preset from the templates, without making any changes. Final file size was about 700 MB.
For the 2nd encode I selected the identical preset, but changed to 2-pass encoding. File size almost doubled to 1200 MB.

I am just wondering if this makes sense. Quality was better for the 2nd encode, though.

Minor issue: The PC did not shutdown, although the shutdown option had been selected.

[jdobbs]

One thing I did notice is that using the default DGDECODE.DLL the resultant AVI file was ~100mb larger than using the NaN DGDECODE.DLL tho the NaN version was slightly faster.Something had to have changed. You can't get too different reduction percentages with the same source/settings).

For the 1st encode I selected an XviD preset from the templates, without making any changes. Final file size was about 700 MB.
For the 2nd encode I selected the identical preset, but changed to 2-pass encoding. File size almost doubled to 1200 MB.I set up the FFMPEG interface to not perform the second pass if the Q was less than 3. That's because in some encodes it would give an error when you tried the second pass (because there was no room for improvement). It appears, though, that the XviD encoder sets the Q to 2.00 when doing pass 1 -- which means you will get oversized output. I'll fix that for the next release. I'm surprised I hadn't noticed that before now.

[therat]

Something had to have changed. You can't get too different reduction percentages with the same source/settings).


You're right. It appears one I had ticked "Full Backup" and the other "Movie Only".

[jdobbs]

That makes sense.

The problem with the older DGDECODE versions was that they had no "Ignore pulldown" field operation available and DVD-RB had to "trick" it when it created the D2V. I'm looking to see how hard it would be to make them work... right now it looks like a real pain.

[wmansir]

Is anyone else using Mobile encoding with MS Vista? I keep getting "ffmpeg.exe has stopped working" errors at the end of each pass. I hit OK and everything seems to continue fine though, and AFAIK the output is OK and complete.

I'll try setting ffmpeg.exe to compatibility mode in my next run and see if has any effect. I haven't attempted to definitely narrow this down to a ffmpeg/vista problem by running ffmpeg via the cmdline either, right now I'm just wondering if other people are encountering this error?

[acrespo]

I plan to make a method for selecting a language for MOBILE encodes in future versions -- it just never got into the current one. Hopefully I'll come up with a way to add hard-coded subtitles also -- but thats a little further down the road.

Any news about subtitles in MOBILE encode?

[jdobbs]

@acrespo

No. Not yet.

Is anyone else using Mobile encoding with MS Vista? I keep getting "ffmpeg.exe has stopped working" errors at the end of each pass. I hit OK and everything seems to continue fine though, and AFAIK the output is OK and complete.

I'll try setting ffmpeg.exe to compatibility mode in my next run and see if has any effect. I haven't attempted to definitely narrow this down to a ffmpeg/vista problem by running ffmpeg via the cmdline either, right now I'm just wondering if other people are encountering this error?@wmansir

Any updates on this?

[wmansir]

Forgive my late reply, I don't have an ipod and was just experimenting with this feature for fun and forgot about it.

I just ran some experiments with various compat modes in Vista. WinXP SP2 does nothing but Windows 98/ME compatibility mode seems to do the trick.

So, for anyone getting "FFmpeg.exe has stopped working" at the end of each encoding pass in Windows Vista, go into your DVD-RB\Encoders\FFMpeg directory, right click on ffmpeg.exe and select properties, select the compatibility tab, check Compatibility Mode and select "Windows 98/Windows ME" in the drop down box.



In what I think is a separate issue, I also noticed the output has no audio, though judging from the ffmpeg commandline and .avs file, I can see why. Should the .avs mux the audio or does DVD-RB take care of that after the video encode?

My .avs reads:

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder v1.21.0
# PGC: V0400001
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
S01=mpeg2source("E:\Work\D2VAVS\V04M.D2V")
V01=trim(S01,0,3578)
video=V01
video=AssumeFPS(video,30000,1001)
video
BicubicResize(640,360).AddBorders(0,60,0,60)


and the ffmpeg commandline is:

"C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ffmpeg\ffmpeg.exe" -y -vcodec xvid -b 704 -dc 9 -max_b_frames 2 -g 12 -me epzs -maxrate 2500 -bufsize 64 -acodec mp3 -ab 96 -i "E:\Work\D2VAVS\VTS04_PGC_00001.AVS" "D:\OUTPUT\MOBILE\TEST_DISC_0001.AVI"

DVD2AVS did contain the .AC3 file for the correct audio stream: VTS04_PGC_00001.AC3.

ps. Even though I said in my previous post that I thought the output was complete, I was referring to dropped frames because of encoder failure. I vaguely recall the audio not being present also. In any case my first step was to turn off compat mode for ffmpeg and it did not change the audio issue.

[jdobbs]

@wmansir

That probably means there is no path specified for nicaudio.dll. The Installer should have added it to the INI file and installed the DLL. The path is in the [Paths] area of REBUILDER.INI. It should look like this:

[Paths]
NICAUDIO="c:\path\to\nicaudio.dll"

[Rippraff]

@wmansir

Did you use the installer? And if so, did you tick nicaudio.dll?
I had the same problem in the past (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=118541&page=2).

Cu Rippraff

[therat]

For some reason since I upgraded to DVD-RB Pro 1.20.0 I can no longer get the video created by using the MOBILE settings, to work.

I get audio but no video when I play the file on my computer.

The movie is The Godfather and this is my AVS file

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder v1.21.0
# PGC: V0200001
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\nicaudio.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll")
S01=mpeg2source("F:\D2VAVS\V02M.D2V")
V01=trim(S01,0,252099)
video=V01
video=AssumeFPS(video,25000,1000)
audio=NicAC3Source("F:\D2VAVS\VTS02_PGC_00001.AC3", 2).DelayAudio(.00).amplify(1.2)
AudioDub(video,audio)
BicubicResize(540,304).AddBorders(10,0,10,0)


The source is a Region 4 PAL DVD.

any suggestions please?

[jdobbs]

Reinstall and have DVD-RB overwrite the MOBILE.INI file. My guess is you've changed some of the settings and the result doesn't work. At least that's what it looks like from the AVS... none of the default profiles had that odd picture size (560x304).

[therat]

Reinstall and have DVD-RB overwrite the MOBILE.INI file. My guess is you've changed some of the settings and the result doesn't work. At least that's what it looks like from the AVS... none of the default profiles had that odd picture size (560x304).

that was a custom size I created. I'll reinstall and give it a try (I'll try a shorter movie this time tho)

cheers

[wmansir]

Thanks jdobbs and Rippraff, nicaudio.dll was the problem. I reran the installer and checked off nicaudio.dll and works fine now.

[therat]

all this time I should have been trying it on my dvd player because it played perfectly. I ran the AVI file through GSpot to find I didn't have a suitable compressor. This was strange because both divx and xvid were installed.

I reinstalled the xvid codec, still wouldn't play on my computer. I then reinstalled the divx codec and now it plays perfectly.

[jdobbs]

I've found that after loading FFDSHOW pretty much everything is supported and you don't have to worry about it anymore.