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viodentia
19th August 2006, 03:57
FairUse4WM is a GUI version of drmdbg that supports individualization version .3930 and some WM11 versions.

Basic requirements
1. Does not work with Win98 or similar.
2. Works with both individualized content and some DRMv1 files
3. Supports WM9, WM10 and WM11beta1 and 2

The program's functioning can be verified with "Demo" DRM files from fairuse4wm.com and ezdrm.com, as well as those from other Microsoft Solution partners.

This program is ONLY designed and intended to enable fair-use rights to PURCHASED media.
- While I haven't been able to support license expiration/rental detection, please don't use this to abuse rental license
- This code does NOT allow import of KID/SID pairs to preclude its use for piracy

Note that some WM installations will have multiple ECC key-pairs, so you will likely have to "Extract Keys" using multiple licensed files. If you find a file that doesn't convert, try extracting keys wth it. Once your whole set of keys is extracted, you will no longer need to run WM per file.

Finally, I'd like to thank the people who helped me test this program. Thanks for the suggestions, and yes, even the problems. With your help, I hope I am able to release a stable tool for Wm conversion.

viodentia
19th August 2006, 04:23
Latest version is 1.3.
This provides interoperability with Microsoft's IBX release of 9-23-2006
Thanks to c0redump for the static extraction technique.
Thanks to Rjamorim for hosting outside the reach of Microsoft's C&D orders

USE THIS ONLY ON FILES THAT YOU *OWN* - either through purchase or that you have ripped yourself.

FairUse4WM.EXE: 12815576c78a799114025b3b266dd156

http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/FU4WMver13.zip

mayang
19th August 2006, 06:17
New FairUse4WM v1.3
HERE (http://s9.quicksharing.com/v/9438118/FU4WMver13.zip.html)

johner23
19th August 2006, 06:55
Thanks, guys !! ;)

Just like happen with some other great decrypting tools, I hope that the developer always keep FairUse4WM updated.

@mayang: do you know if drmdbg is frequently updated, according any important WM10 or WM11 patching updates too? If so, please, let us know, to get the most current version to use with these nice GUI.

With your help, I hope I am able to release a stable tool for Wm conversion.

If many people from community test and report any problem/bugs, soon we can have such a "stable" and maybe "generic" program to help us to UnDRMed our private ( and legal obtained ) files.

Thanks again for your work and efforts, guys! ;)

devil (johner)

viodentia
19th August 2006, 07:25
I'll do my best to keep this updated, and if anyone with a decent WTL and C/C++ wants to take this over when I get bored with it, please let me know.
I'm already exploring a second version, but it doesn't work with WM11 yet. If anyone is up for a challenge, and understands http://www.cs.arizona.edu/solar/papers/CCS2003.pdf (to start with), let me know either by PM or email to my nick at yahoo.co.uk.

Digga
19th August 2006, 08:02
another mirror:
MU (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z9PZ0OMO)

JiJi
19th August 2006, 09:44
Congradumilations on the release. :)

Plenty thanks for all the work you put into this.

drummer7
19th August 2006, 20:54
Yes. Very nice! :thanks:

unknownsoldierX
19th August 2006, 21:36
This is just like drmdbg, in that you can not have WMP updates installed? I do have 3646 installed, so I'm just curious.

WalterK
19th August 2006, 21:55
Yes this is a great tool thank you viodentia and mayang if you had anything to do with helping in the development.
Better get it and go wild folks, no telling how long before MS releases a "patch" to fix WMP 10/11

gabuchi
20th August 2006, 02:14
Thanks. Many thanks.
Enjoy!

toon12
20th August 2006, 14:21
This is just like drmdbg, in that you can not have WMP updates installed? I do have 3646 installed, so I'm just curious.

works with updates, at least for me.

ron spencer
20th August 2006, 22:51
How does this work....I get error:

Widows Error ffff while getting path for Blackbox DLL

somnus
21st August 2006, 21:35
Man I cant believe it!! Finally something that works for me. I have all updates and this thng UnDRMed my files flawlessly. Thanks!!!

ron spencer
21st August 2006, 22:15
I still get the error I posted 2 above after I point it to my valid DRM audio files....any ideas?

Pasqui
21st August 2006, 22:29
How does this work....I get error:

Widows Error ffff while getting path for Blackbox DLL
I have the same issue with WMP 10.00.00.4036 (WinXP SP2 French).

mayang
21st August 2006, 22:30
I still get the error I posted 2 above after I point it to my valid DRM audio files....any ideas?

Make sure you have individualization your system.
I think your audio file is drm1 and the licenses information is not store in IndivBox.key. Download any demo drm video from ezdrm.com to individualize your system first.

Or you can go here to automatically individualization your system. http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

ron spencer
22nd August 2006, 00:33
that is it mayang...works!!!!

WalterK
22nd August 2006, 02:23
Doing my part to keep access up here are a few mirrors

http://www.filefactory.com/file/f75e74/
http://www.badongo.com/file/1270460
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B5M9PXUM

johner23
22nd August 2006, 15:54
Nice to see that many people are getting successfully drm'ed with their files. ;)

If anybody see any update about drmdbg and their components, please, let us know and their alternative links, ok?

Thanks for all, folks.

devil (johner)

johner23
22nd August 2006, 16:39
I had one doubt about my files after drm'ing: when I free all of them, I will get generally WMA and WMV files as result.

Well, but if I wanna convert those files in other formats, just like MP3 or AVI (xvid, divx, etc) which programs do you suggest, to have the best quality possible during these convestion between formats?

Thanks.

dager
23rd August 2006, 23:40
I'm having trouble - it will unDRM, but then it can't be used in any editing programs to change it to MP4 format.

WalterK
24th August 2006, 05:09
see the guides on the forums or doom9 site or www.videohelp.com for converting.

GoodOmens
25th August 2006, 17:04
Might as well get it to as many sites as possible before microsoft attacks :-p

http://www.filefactory.com/file/c18e1d/
http://d.turboupload.com/d/917535/FairUse4WM.zip.html
http://www.uploading.com/?get=CQLBKEA6
http://www.sendmefile.com/00457915

johner23
25th August 2006, 23:36
These tool are a great piece of proggy and many people are using it around the world.

That's nice... but... Micro$oft and maybe other companies soon will notice / realize the program fame and will do some patching engine security to break the FairUse4WM success.

---> http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/25/fairuse4wm-strips-windows-media-drm/

---> http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7875.cfm

---> http://www.all-streaming-media.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25

---> http://forum.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=78454&page=81#post1527541

---> http://forum.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=78454&page=1&pp=25

Please, developers: always be updated ( if it's possible ) against newer DRM craps, ok?

Very, very nice tool.

If any people who know programming and how to deal with such DRM protection files wanna help, it'll be very nice for the whole community. :D

Good job, guys!! ;)

devil (johner)

Panda
26th August 2006, 04:59
Ok, I am new to DRM (but I am smart enough to know it sux...)
but does FairUse4WM work on audio files?

unskinnyboy
26th August 2006, 05:20
Ok, I am new to DRM (but I am smart enough to know it sux...)
but does FairUse4WM work on audio files?
If you had taken the time to read the whole thread, you would have seen that most people *are* using FairUse4WM on their DRM'd audio files.

Most importantly, the golden rule: Thou shalt try before thou asks.

Xenomorph
26th August 2006, 07:26
while this has worked on most of my DRM'd WMA files, there are some that the program doesnt seem to notice the Key. it opens WMP, plays the file, but never closes.

when i manually close WMP, the program gives me this error:

Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance.

any ideas? i have the license for the file, and WMP can play it just fine. because of issues i've had to deal with after doing a clean install of Windows, i dont want to mess with its DRM any more.

gtanning
26th August 2006, 20:06
Thank you so much for this program. It has worked flawlessly for me so far.

I do appreciate FairUse4WM very much.

G. T.

Panda
26th August 2006, 20:31
If you had taken the time to read the whole thread, you would have seen that most people *are* using FairUse4WM on their DRM'd audio files.

Most importantly, the golden rule: Thou shalt try before thou asks.

I did try. ;)
At first I had the Blackbox.DLL error. So I went to the posted URL, and it did not give me the button to upgrade. So I tried one of the Demo files from EZDRM.com - They would not download. Then I realised I was using Firefox ( I knew I was using it, I just forgot that MS does not like it...) So I went back to the URL with Innernet Exploiter and did the update. Then I got an Error:

Panic! At The Disco - I Write Sins Not Tragedies.WMA UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 5217873102 cannot be truncated to 922905806.

So then I went to EZDRM and downloaded one of the "Free DRM" vidoes - FairUse worked very well at that.

I tried the test audio file again and got the same error again.

Before posting all that, I wanted to make sure I was not trying a video only proggie for audio DRM...

I did say I was new to DRM ;)

mayang
27th August 2006, 15:54
More active discussion can be found below:

Link 1 (http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/25/fairuse4wm-strips-windows-media-drm)

Link 2 (http://www.digg.com/music/FairUse4WM_strips_Windows_Media_DRM)

Link 3 (http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7875.cfm)

helloz
27th August 2006, 19:27
I have the version: 10.00.00.4036 SP2 Spanish and found correctly ;)

Thx all! (coders, developers...)

viodentia
28th August 2006, 08:31
Just to drop in to say that I am aware of the following issues

1. DRMv1 support is more common than I believed. This is being addressed. I believe this to be at the root of some "odd" behavior

2. Panda's problem involves extra data appended at the end of some WMA files. Truncating these files to the length in the File Properties Object should fix the problem. If anyone can find what this data is used for, if anything, it'd help. Thanks for the find, Panda.

Thank you all for your feedback.

johner23
28th August 2006, 14:20
Once FairUse4WM have work so many times, it's easier for people to relate bugs and help for later program's improvement.

More than that: once people could have solve that DRM restrictive environment, other programers can study and create similar engines that are able to deal with such "protections".

Just like happen with dvd's in the past: once Macrovision/CSS were removed by DVD-Jon and other people, these make possible some other programers be able do the same and many softwares were created after that. :p

I just wish many other people have time and talent/knowledge to improve more and more FairUse4WM and /or create similar tools that can do the same: un-drming skills.

PS: any FairUse4WM update or improvement, let us know. ;)

Thanks, folks.

Web Junkie
28th August 2006, 15:21
It's suddenly stopped working for me?

All my licenses are working as I can play my protected DRM video files, individulized my player and all I get is:

Windows Error 80030002 while DRM_HDS_OpenStore

This is on every file that I now try, but before it worked? What is the problem here, anyone know?

*UPDATE*

Solved the problem! Installed WMP10 and it still complained with same message as above, but after deleting the DRMSTORE.HDS file and re-acquiring my licenses again everything went like clockwork :)

viodentia
28th August 2006, 15:37
It's suddenly stopped working for me?

All my licenses are working as I can play my protected DRM video files, individulized my player and all I get is:

Windows Error 80030002 while DRM_HDS_OpenStore

This is on every file that I now try, but before it worked? What is the problem here, anyone know?

DRM_HDS_OpenStore is part of the DRM License library that FairUse4WM uses to pull licenses from drmstore.hds
The error 80030002 means that it can't be opened, either because another program has it exclusively locked, or that it doesn't exist.
Please send me a directory listing of your "All Users"\"DRM" directory (use "dir /a" since the files are usually hidden)

johner23
28th August 2006, 17:43
Some other places to discuss about DRM and similar things.

---> http://www.wmptalk.com/index.php

---> http://all-streaming-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211

---> http://hymn-project.org/forums/index.php?sid=500812637e994521965f0b0a27d3619f

Thanks

Web Junkie
28th August 2006, 17:49
I fixed the problem, see the update in post #35!

The file was already present and not locked. Used a tool called Unlocker 1.8.4 to see if the file was locked and it wasn't, so no reason for Fairuse to not read it, unless of course it was corrupt somehow?

polychrome
28th August 2006, 23:04
When I use the tool I get a messagebox with the title "Unable to recover private key" and message text "Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance."

The tool starts, I select a demo file downloaded from ezdrm.com, WMP starts, the video plays, the video ends, I close WMP and the messagebox appears. repeated trials show that the messagebox doesn't appear until WMP is closed.

WMP version 10.00.00.4306
Windows XP Pro SP2

viodentia
29th August 2006, 02:26
The error -9000 is a generic catch-all that just means that Wmplayer exitted before the program could find the keys in memory.
Verify that your system is individualized, and please post the version information (right-click) from "indivbox.key" in "All Users"\DRM directory.

spike2000
29th August 2006, 02:54
viodentia, awsome job apreciate the tool so much :D

Thracks
29th August 2006, 02:54
Hi, how are you? :) A fantastic little tool you've got here, but I seem to have the same -9000 error. I've individualized my PC, and I can't even load a key from the EZDRM site you linked to as a proof-of-concept test.

Here's my .key version: 11.0.5497.6285

Help?

polychrome
29th August 2006, 04:13
to follow up on the 9000 error...

the system is individualized as far as I can tell by having used the MS link and sucessfully using the various demos on ezdrm.com.

The \Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\IndivBox.key version is 11.0.5497.6285

Airlik
29th August 2006, 13:44
I've been burning to virtual CDs and ripping to be able to play my Napster purchases on my H140 - thanks much for this faster and lossless tool!

CruNcher
29th August 2006, 14:52
Microsoft reacted fast, patch for the IBX is out, if they only would be fast like this for other stuff too hehe :P

ciaran77
29th August 2006, 15:05
The BBC news site have just run the story, and referenced Doom9.org.......good news travels fast!

dirtminer
29th August 2006, 15:12
(link)
http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/28/microsoft-already-on-their-way-to-patching-fairuse4wm/

5. If the IBX file version is 11.0.5497.6285 or greater, then the updated IBX is installed


Possible Workaround from Engadget
I opened my "IndivBox.key" file (for me, it was located in Docs & Settings / All Users / DRM) in ResHacker. Sure enough, there is an entry:
VALUE "FileVersion", "10.00.00.3930"
Which I changed to:
VALUE "FileVersion", "11.0.5497.6285"


So it seems that you might be able to continue using this tool, but only if you took advance steps

anybody
29th August 2006, 15:13
I also get the -9000 error.

My IndivBox.key Version is 11.0.5497.6285 and i'm using Windows Media Player 10 Build 3802.

The 'industrial.wmv' does play fine in Windows Media Player, as well as my Coral Reed Adventure DVD. So the keys should be there...

Any clues what i can do to get this work?

anybody
29th August 2006, 15:15
(link)
5. If the IBX file version is 11.0.5497.6285 or greater, then the updated IBX is installed


:scared:

Is there any way to get the older one?

johner23
29th August 2006, 17:12
See that above:

---> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2009666,00.asp

Yes, the Windows Media Licensing Department and Microsoft Windows Digital Media Division are patching quicky. LOL.


PS: I hope many other programers ( not just only Viodentia and others ) do the job again and help the community in many other times. And I trust it doesn't wait too long for that happens. ;)

Good luck, guys !!! Keep going nice !!

Thanks.

devil (johner)

mayang
29th August 2006, 19:30
FairUse4WM v1.2 on the way.
will work on systems that are NOT individualized?
Just wait...hahaha

aslat
29th August 2006, 19:37
But what sites offer full downloads (with protection) and not the 30 second free trial thingy like Napster ?

ron spencer
29th August 2006, 19:41
does this mean that the link to individualize your system will not work as before? Can you copy that Indiv files from one computer to another?

johner23
29th August 2006, 19:52
See that, people:

http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/27/an-open-letter-to-microsoft-why-you-shouldnt-kill-fairuse4wm/

Thanks ang good job, guys !! :D :thanks:

Best regards

devil (johner)

mayang
29th August 2006, 19:56
does this mean that the link to individualize your system will not work as before? Can you copy that Indiv files from one computer to another?

You can't copy IndivBox.key from another computer.
that it word individual. If you can copy IndivBox.key from another computer that have licenses for some media, DRM will no longer a 'protection sheme'. :)

affter333
29th August 2006, 20:40
Cat and mouse continues
The real take home message from this remains that DRM only stops the people who are bothering to obey the rules.

kumi
30th August 2006, 00:13
This blog in japanese seems to be pretty up to date about DRM matters (I can't read kanji, I'm just guessing here.) Might be a good site to watch for future entries:

http://xxxleastxxx.blog28.fc2.com/index.php?q=drm

Direct downloads on there are
FairUse4WM (archive password L33VaNcL33F)
Automate unDRM
Drmdbg
Undrm

mayang
30th August 2006, 03:02
For people who got IndivBox.key v11.0.5497.6285, there are a way to prevent it. Seem to talk once again about WMP v10.0.0.3646

If you have WMP10 v3802 you will get indivbox.key above, but if you still have WMP10 v3646 and never install hotfix KB891122, you are lucky.

check drmclien.dll in your system, if you have v10.0.0.3646 that's allright but if you have v10.0.0.3802, when individualization you will get the patched version of Indivbox.key as above.

Best of luck. :)

heat84
30th August 2006, 06:38
When I try to use this it says: Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance.

When I use good old decryptit it worked though. So how is this different than that and the 2 programs it combines (DrmDbg and drm2wmv)?
And how com Microsoft reacted to this program so quickly and ignored those programs that have been out for over a year (well 6 months for decryptit)? If I made those programs, I'd be pretty insulted at being ignored by Microsoft.

brumfondl
30th August 2006, 08:09
When I try to convert any of my files I get variations of the following:
UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5976 bytes (5884) at offset 2559477 in file

I am using WMP11 version 11.0.5358.4826 and the version of IndivBox.key is 11.0.5352.6163. I have successfully tried a demo file and made sure that my system is individualized and that the files play ok in WMP. Any ideas?

Brumfondl

ron spencer
30th August 2006, 15:04
On a new laptop I installed:

WMP v10.0.0.3646

went to the idiv. site @ m*soft to individualize my system.

No problems with UnDRMing....but since I am only interested in music this is fine for me!!! perfect.

JarrettH
30th August 2006, 19:37
You're creating quite the news buzz :P

Microsoft is apparently patching it now

ron spencer
30th August 2006, 21:02
how can they patch it....what will they do exactly...anyone know?

Panda
30th August 2006, 21:16
When I try to convert any of my files I get variations of the following:
UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5976 bytes (5884) at offset 2559477 in file

I am using WMP11 version 11.0.5358.4826 and the version of IndivBox.key is 11.0.5352.6163. I have successfully tried a demo file and made sure that my system is individualized and that the files play ok in WMP. Any ideas?

Brumfondl
that is the same type of error I was getting and it is being worked on.

Cheers

doggersen
31st August 2006, 00:09
I thought I read somewhere that it was also possible to unDRM media-player-9 protected files.

But that is in fact impossible or what?

viodentia
31st August 2006, 00:41
DRMv9 - Should be supported in next release. If you want to test on Wm9, please send a PM.

Garbage at the end of a file - this seems to be WMA files from a buggy generator. The file length in the header doesn't match the actual file size. Fix will definitely be in the next release.

I should have time to address the new IBX this weekend. Information on just what varies between multiple copies of the same version will be appreciated. Expected result: recognizable code will be at the same position, have same value. Encrypted code will be different bytes, same lengths.

brumfondl
31st August 2006, 01:56
thanks, Panda. I eagerly await the next version :)

Brumfondl

DepecheNYC
31st August 2006, 17:48
I'm getting below error. Solution?

Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance.

echooff
31st August 2006, 21:11
Thank You

arisjo
1st September 2006, 07:29
I have just downloaded and installed WMP11, and acquired the licenses for some wmv files legally. But FairUse4WM 1.1 gives the following message when I try to unDRM some files: "xxxxxxx.wmv requires a different private key"

Does it mean my system has been patched? Any way to work around?

Thanks a lot!

viodentia
1st September 2006, 15:56
This is expected behavior. A single IBX can have multiple embedded keys.
Go back to the first page, and Extract Keys using the newly downloaded file.
IF you get the -9000 error, wait for the next release, which should be sometime this weekend.

eirikso
2nd September 2006, 07:27
"wait for the next release, which should be sometime this weekend"

Keep your door locked. After the recent poblicity I guess it's just a question of time before someone send James Bond or Agent Bauer in your direction...

viodentia
2nd September 2006, 07:46
Keep your door locked. After the recent poblicity I guess it's just a question of time before someone send James Bond or Agent Bauer in your direction...

If they're taking requests, maybe Sydney Bristow?

However, given that I haven't gotten a single nastygram yet, I think I'm "OK" for now.

johner23
2nd September 2006, 08:39
Look, take care !! ;) :eek:

Do not let them catch you just like they did before as it happened with LUKE (DVD Decrypter's author).

I guess these thread can be use to discuss the bugs, some suggestions, development ideas, changelogs and similar ones.

But for releasing other things... No.... No more... At least, wait for a moment... See what happens in a few weeks...

You people must to think how to find a way to release the program without any link.

I guess we can discuss openly about DRM, but as your program become very famous in a great short time, its wise just to study the schemes and not release it here.

Collecting bugs reports, suggestions, logs, patching issues, experiences, etc. But, wait for releasing...

Your program is very nice and deserve to stay alive and effective for long time!! ;)

So, we must think, all of us, the community, to find a way to deal with that DRM laws and possible Microsoft strikes and "protect"/"help" the developers just like you.

Take care and be prudent !! :p

Nice job for all of you, people !!

devil (johner)

AmishPornStar
2nd September 2006, 13:29
Just another thank you.I would've never tried Urge.com if it
wasn't for this.I actually purchased a Metallica (i still have a Lars grudge for the the napster killing) song (One) from msn music just to un-drm it.Thank you for your efforts.

Web Junkie
2nd September 2006, 13:40
Troubleshooting tip:

Had a problem with a WMV file:

UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Unsupported Error correction (d6) at packet offset 0.

Wasn't sure what the problem was as the License acquired OK and the file played fine in WMP 10! So I tried downloading the file again with Flashget this time as I downloaded it using 'Save Target as' originally, and now the file is processed with no error.

Obviously the file got corrupted while downloading, so if you get the error above it may be due to a corrupt file, download again via a download manager and see if it helps!

arisjo
2nd September 2006, 16:30
This is expected behavior. A single IBX can have multiple embedded keys.
Go back to the first page, and Extract Keys using the newly downloaded file.
IF you get the -9000 error, wait for the next release, which should be sometime this weekend.

Thank you! Ver1.2 is now working perfectly well with the newly downloaded WMP11.

mayang
2nd September 2006, 18:02
Refer to page 1 of this thread to download v1.2
:) :) :)
Happy UnDRMing !!!

BadServo
2nd September 2006, 18:17
Just wanted to say that this is a very imporessive program and I greatly appreciate teh work on it.

However, I've currently moved to Vista as the sole OS on my machine and I receive the following error after choosing a file for key recovery:

"Unhandled Situation -1 while creating Windows Media instance."

I can only assume is a Vista-specific bug, but any advice would be appreciated.

MLS
2nd September 2006, 18:35
I get PATH/Michael Nyman - String Quartet No. 4 - Why.wma has an unexpected content key value.

When trying to decrypt. Key (supposedly) recovers properly. Tried multiple files, all give the exact same message.

DrmClien.dll v10.0.0.3802
Indiv002.key v11.0.5497.6285
FairUse4WM 1.2

/MLS

Panda
2nd September 2006, 18:57
Just another thank you.I would've never tried Urge.com if it
wasn't for this.I actually purchased a Metallica (i still have a Lars grudge for the the napster killing) song (One) from msn music just to un-drm it.Thank you for your efforts.

#----off topic------
Hahahaha! I am still boycotting $metalica$ - If I understand correctly, they started out small and got greedy.
#---back to topic----

Linkless distribution? I was always a big fan of BitTorrent...

viodentia
2nd September 2006, 21:15
I get PATH/Michael Nyman - String Quartet No. 4 - Why.wma has an unexpected content key value.

When trying to decrypt. Key (supposedly) recovers properly. Tried multiple files, all give the exact same message.

DrmClien.dll v10.0.0.3802
Indiv002.key v11.0.5497.6285
FairUse4WM 1.2


You'll need to elaborate further on this - are these files DRMv1 or are they individualized?

My guess is that these are individualized files, but you got them under a previous IBX prior to the upgrade.
Extraction of secondary keys could be problematic.
Easiest workaround is to reget the licenses (most drastic solution - rename drmstore.hds in your DRM directory).
Or, PM/Email me and you can help test support for secondary keys.


For the VISTA error - that probably means that wmplayer.exe isn't where the program expects it to be found. What directory is wmplayer.exe in on a Vista system? What registry keys point to it?

BadServo
2nd September 2006, 21:33
Thanks for the prompt reply.

the path for WMP under Vista (5536) is as follows:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe"

Wasn't sure exactly what you'd need in regaurds to the registry, so I'm including the following branch that makes references to the WMP defaults for Play and Open associations.

Reg file is here. (http://badservo.com/VistaWMPRef.reg)

mcai8rw2
3rd September 2006, 19:02
Dear Team,

I recently reinstalled windowsxp on my machine to try out fairuse4wm.

My windows media player is 10.00.00.3802
I HAVE individualized my system [indivbox.key is version 11.0.5497.6285]

I have succesfully recovered three keys using the ezdrm.com sample files.

Fairuse4wm seems to be working fine, however, when i try to unDRM some video files downloaded from the net ;-p i get the response.

0 files converted
0 errors
X warnings [where x is the number of files]

and the warnings are:

"[Path of the video] does not appear to be licensed to you."

This error is correct. They aren;t licensed to me...but isn;t that the point or FairUse4WM? Isn't it supposed to rid me of the nessescity of lisencing these things?

blutach
3rd September 2006, 21:41
@mcai8rw2

Your downloading of files and trying to unDRM them without them being licensed to you is a breach of rule 6.

Please read the announcement at the top of this forum and the rules again.

I do not expect your post will be replied to, given your circumstances.

Regards

protectyoursources
3rd September 2006, 22:25
Dear Team,

I recently reinstalled windowsxp on my machine to try out fairuse4wm.

My windows media player is 10.00.00.3802
I HAVE individualized my system [indivbox.key is version 11.0.5497.6285]

I have succesfully recovered three keys using the ezdrm.com sample files.

Fairuse4wm seems to be working fine, however, when i try to unDRM some video files downloaded from the net ;-p i get the response.

0 files converted
0 errors
X warnings [where x is the number of files]

and the warnings are:

"[Path of the video] does not appear to be licensed to you."

This error is correct. They aren;t licensed to me...but isn;t that the point or FairUse4WM? Isn't it supposed to rid me of the nessescity of lisencing these things?

No the purpose of this software is to remove the DRM so that some of your Fair Use Rights are protected on media that you own before they where taken away by the DCMA .


This program is ONLY designed and intended to enable fair-use rights to PURCHASED media.
- While I haven't been able to support license expiration/rental detection, please don't use this to abuse rental license
- This code does NOT allow import of KID/SID pairs to preclude its use for piracy

finalmillenium
4th September 2006, 04:09
If you knew anything about fair use you would understand what the programmer is trying to do. He's not condoning piracy, he's giving us the tools that we need to take back our fair use rights.

Insanenerd
4th September 2006, 05:03
v1.2 is mirrored at www.BG4G.net (http://www.bg4g.net) in the downloads section.

brumfondl
4th September 2006, 06:52
Well I tried with the new version but I still get the same error as I mentioned earlier...

E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5974 bytes (5882) at offset 4501181 in file "E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma".

guess I will have to wait till 1.3 :(

Brumfondl

viodentia
4th September 2006, 07:24
Well I tried with the new version but I still get the same error as I mentioned earlier...

E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5974 bytes (5882) at offset 4501181 in file "E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma".

guess I will have to wait till 1.3 :(

Brumfondl

Does this happen with more than one file?
It *appears* that this file is truncated, given how much the code is trying to read, and how much it gets.
SInce the space at the end is typically indexing information, you can get by without having it. The parser tries to be cautious though.

I can just ignore the format and write out what I can for these portions? Should I risk writing out a corrupt file, or give errors so they can be corrected?

For a -fix version, I'll try a policy of " if I can't read a whole block, I'll just ignore the entire block". This should be the least likely to break something else. Comments? Should I just keep the failing behavior?

brumfondl
4th September 2006, 09:48
I just tried 4 different files from 4 different directories. Results were:
E:\Legit Music\Massive Attack\Collected\04 Teardrop.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5976 bytes (5884) at offset 5336363 in file "E:\Legit Music\Massive Attack\Collected\04 Teardrop.wma".
E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5974 bytes (5882) at offset 4501181 in file "E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma".
E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Earth Moving\01 Holy.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5974 bytes (5882) at offset 4484983 in file "E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Earth Moving\01 Holy.wma".
E:\Legit Music\Tall Dwarfs\Fifty Flavours Of Glue\01 Gluey_ Gluey.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5976 bytes (5884) at offset 2559477 in file "E:\Legit Music\Tall Dwarfs\Fifty Flavours Of Glue\01 Gluey_ Gluey.wma".

Seems like a pattern :)

Brumfondl

josh2
4th September 2006, 13:35
I just tried 4 different files from 4 different directories. Results were:
E:\Legit Music\Massive Attack\Collected\04 Teardrop.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5976 bytes (5884) at offset 5336363 in file "E:\Legit Music\Massive Attack\Collected\04 Teardrop.wma".
E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5974 bytes (5882) at offset 4501181 in file "E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Discovery\01 To France.wma".
E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Earth Moving\01 Holy.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5974 bytes (5882) at offset 4484983 in file "E:\Legit Music\Mike Oldfield\Earth Moving\01 Holy.wma".
E:\Legit Music\Tall Dwarfs\Fifty Flavours Of Glue\01 Gluey_ Gluey.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 5976 bytes (5884) at offset 2559477 in file "E:\Legit Music\Tall Dwarfs\Fifty Flavours Of Glue\01 Gluey_ Gluey.wma".

Seems like a pattern :)

Brumfondl

Is it possible that you have a service that gives you malformed WMA files? Have you tried some other protected files such as those from ezdrm?

I've only once had the problem and then it was when I accidentally tried to convert a file that was still downloading. (So like viodentia said, truncated file)

Anyhow, nice work viodentia! This program has been a lifesaver. And 1.2 is working great with WMP11 beta 2. (I've been trying to avoid getting the updated IBX just in case, so I can't say how it works with that.)

Josh

blutach
4th September 2006, 13:49
@josh2

You are new here, so I will direct you to the announcement at the top of this forum and rule 6.

@all - I do not want to see discussion about downloaded media files in this thread. This thread is about a technical product. Please confine your discussions to that subject.

Regards

josh2
4th September 2006, 14:57
Ooops.. sorry. I edited my post to remove the provider name or whatever. But rule 6 talks about illegally obtained content.. and the downloading service I'm using is a legal music download service?

Josh

viodentia
4th September 2006, 17:32
Brumfondi, it does seem like you have a fairly consistent problem. Please PM me.

You can also try this version (not really an officlal release, just ignores these read failures)
https://uploads.sgul.ac.uk/uploads/5134382/ver12fix.zip

This may cause the files to stop working in other ways though

olyteddy
4th September 2006, 19:03
My end-run for DRM'd audio is Total Recorder. So far it has worked with .WMA, iTunes and Audible, the only three formats I've been exposed to. It can convert at less than real time (8x on this laptop with Audible). I can also capture any audio stream with it, sometimes accelerated (WinAmp streams usually capture at twice normal speed). I set LAME to a VBR profile of 64-224 kbits and let it run. iTunes usually encode to about 160 kb, Audible to 80, internet streams up to 200, etc...Depends on the source.

josh2
4th September 2006, 20:22
Trouble is, it's a lossy conversion whenever you do anything like that. (Total Recorder, SoundTaxi, Tunebite, MuvAudio, etc) FairUse4WM is much faster than any of those (nearly instant.. mere seconds per album), and is completely lossless.

Yeah, they're decent programs but if you can get this to work (which for most situations is pretty painless) it's much better.

If only there was a tool like this for iTunes 6.. (QTFairUse is OK, but way way to slow.) ;)

brumfondl
4th September 2006, 21:08
@viodentia

i unfortunately have to go to work now but I will see what I can suss out when I get home :)

Brumfondl

WildmanCAL
4th September 2006, 21:56
The error messages I seem to get are:

C:\Documents and Settings\WildmanCAL\My Documents\My Music\WMA files\Savatage - Gutter Ballet.WMA UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 11008306382 cannot be truncated to -1876595506.

C:\Documents and Settings\WildmanCAL\My Documents\My Music\WMA files\Musicmatch\a-ha - The Sun Always Shines On T.V..WMA UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 1509990125154 cannot be truncated to -1838363038.

C:\Documents and Settings\WildmanCAL\My Documents\My Music\WMA files\Musicmatch\a-ha - Hunting High And Low.WMA UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error reading 20891756 bytes (716237) at offset 4562948 in file "C:\Documents and Settings\WildmanCAL\My Documents\My Music\WMA files\Musicmatch\a-ha - Hunting High And Low.WMA".

C:\Documents and Settings\WildmanCAL\My Documents\My Music\WMA files\Musicmatch\a-ha - Take On Me.WMA UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 1375470407266 cannot be truncated to 1080872546.

These tracks are from Musicmatch are Windows Media v9 and have been legally purchased by me.

dirtminer
4th September 2006, 23:39
Sounds like this program isn't handling ASF files correctly, or perhaps some services didn't follow the ASF specification.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/format/ASFViewer.aspx

Microsoft provides this tool to verify ASF compliance (both WMA and WMV should verify under this program).

daveskiz
4th September 2006, 23:51
Just wanted to say a big thanks for an awesome peice of software. V1.1 still running nicely on my desktop PC

Bit of feedback for the developer on V1.2, dunno if I'm making some newbie error but I have tried it on my laptop with the following versions

DrmClien.dll version 10.0.0.3802
indivbox.key 11.00.5497.6285

seems to get the key ok but then gives the following error when I try to un-DRM it

-filename- has an unexpected content key value.

This is a freshly downloaded track which I have the licence for

I'm not bothered because I'm using v1.1 ok on my desktop still, but thought it might help viodentia if I reported my error.

Cheers again for the software, 2500+ tracks of my music is finally really mine, can't wait to listen to it in the car! :) Keep up the good work.

blutach
5th September 2006, 00:23
@daveskiz - please do not mention where you purchase your music from.

@all - please see http://forum.doom9.org/announcement.php?f=6

We have no way of telling whether your downloaded files are legal. Please do not put this board in a position of risk.

Regards

feedback
5th September 2006, 01:30
If there is any question about our rules, see rule 16.

16) Instructions by the moderator team are to be followed.

protectyoursources
5th September 2006, 05:01
Just wanted to say a big thanks for an awesome peice of software. V1.1 still running nicely on my desktop PC

Bit of feedback for the developer on V1.2, dunno if I'm making some newbie error but I have tried it on my laptop with the following versions

DrmClien.dll version 10.0.0.3802
indivbox.key 11.00.5497.6285

seems to get the key ok but then gives the following error when I try to un-DRM it

-filename- has an unexpected content key value.

This is a freshly downloaded track which I have the licence for

I'm not bothered because I'm using v1.1 ok on my desktop still, but thought it might help viodentia if I reported my error.

Cheers again for the software, 2500+ tracks of my music is finally really mine, can't wait to listen to it in the car! :) Keep up the good work.

Try and import the new key by clicking the back button when the app opens ,becuse Microsofts individualized blackbox component (IBX) Ver 11.0.5497.6285 was issued last week to all the Windows Media Licensees so any licenses issued after that date probably has a new key pair.

viodentia
5th September 2006, 05:11
If you get invalid content key problems, try the v1.2 fix that I posted earlier today.
You'll need to rename "My Documents\blackbox-keys.txt" and re-extract.

irishcrazy2005
5th September 2006, 06:31
I have some files that I am trying to use FairUse4WM on, but am having trouble. The error I am getting is "Unhandled situation -9020 while creating windows media instance." When the program opens Media Player, it plays the file and doesn't stop until the end. When I close the window, I get the previously mentioned error. According to the program I have DrmClien.dll version 10.0.0.3802 and Indivbox.key has version 10.0.0.3930. It is worth noting that these files are a bit older and I do have the appopriate license (I can play the files). My WM version is 10.00.00.4036. I can also successfully un-DRM a test file from the ezdrm site. Thanks for the help!

brumfondl
5th September 2006, 06:31
@ viodentia

You, Sir, are a legend! Your fixed v1.2 worked to perfection on all files and now I don't have to worry about my wonderful provider that only lets you renew the license 3 times before the songs crap out (very sucky if you tend to re-install your OS a lot :()

Thanks a billion :D

Brumfondl

daveskiz
5th September 2006, 11:15
@daveskiz - please do not mention where you purchase your music from.


No worries, didn't think I had done, that's why I removed the filename, because it had the name of the of the provider in there.

If you get invalid content key problems, try the v1.2 fix that I posted earlier today.
You'll need to rename "My Documents\blackbox-keys.txt" and re-extract.

Fix version works like a dream! :thanks:

quad
5th September 2006, 11:39
sorry, but i really don't get it. :(
when i start the tool. it says that i have drmclien.dll 10.0.0.3802, i answer the box with okay and then it says "ibx components do not appear to be present". what do i need additional to fairuse4wm?

Web Junkie
5th September 2006, 12:46
Sounds like you haven't individualized your system. See this link:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=866158#post866158

quad
5th September 2006, 13:38
okay many thanks, that was my problem. :) but now i stuck with the same problem, as the most of you .. i have this new patched file from MS, which doesn't works anymore with fairuse4wm. :(

embries
5th September 2006, 13:48
I'm getting the unexpected content key problem as well.

C:\Documents and Settings\some user\My Documents\My Music\some artist\some album\track title.wma has an unexpected content key value.

DRMClien.dll version == 10.0.0.3802
Indivbox.key version == 11.0.5497.6285

Notice, however, when I run FairUse4WM it talks about an Indiv01.key which is in a subfolder called "Cache", not in the actual folder with the Indivbox.key.

Same problem on 2 separate computers, both individualized over this weekend.

josh2
5th September 2006, 14:38
okay many thanks, that was my problem. :) but now i stuck with the same problem, as the most of you .. i have this new patched file from MS, which doesn't works anymore with fairuse4wm. :(

1.2 and 1.2 fix work fine with the patched IBX...

Download the latest version: https://uploads.sgul.ac.uk/uploads/5134382/ver12fix.zip

embries
5th September 2006, 15:02
Winner winner! Thanks Josh2.

quad
5th September 2006, 15:34
1.2 and 1.2 fix work fine with the patched IBX...

Download the latest version: https://uploads.sgul.ac.uk/uploads/5134382/ver12fix.zip
doesnt work for me .. sorry. :(

- i start the fixed version
- opens a drm'ed file (for which i have the license of course)
- wmp10 starts to playing the file
- i waited until the file is completely played
- closed the wmp10
- and fairuse4wm said: "unhandled situation -9013 while creating windows media instance"

so whats wrong on my side?

embries
5th September 2006, 15:43
I got that when I hadn't individualized properly. Then again if you try to recover keys from a file that doesn't have DRM. I'd say re-individualize. (Delete the DRM folder in docs&settings/allusers/drm you'll have to show hidden files and protected system files to see it, make a backup first). Then head back to the MS individualization site. I also got that once when I had individualized AFTER I had played my content-protected media. The media needed to be updated to reflect the new key.

josh2
5th September 2006, 15:59
I think embries has the right idea. But no need to delete delete the drm folder, just rename it to drmold or something just in case something goes south.

Then individulize again: http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

Then try playing one of the files in WMP to make sure the license is re-aquired.

You'll also have to aquire licenses again in FairUse4WM, as it will have changed.

Josh

gabrielzorz
5th September 2006, 16:18
you can download it here:

http://gsoto.com/FairUse4WM.zip

protectyoursources
5th September 2006, 16:48
Another Mirror

http://peerfactor.fr/g.jsp?f=FairUse4WM.1157471138.exe

Peerfactor uses a a p2p client to distribute content and may ask you to download a plugin if this file gets popular .

30 day Link

quad
5th September 2006, 17:24
I think embries has the right idea. But no need to delete delete the drm folder, just rename it to drmold or something just in case something goes south.
Then individulize again: http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp
Then try playing one of the files in WMP to make sure the license is re-aquired.
You'll also have to aquire licenses again in FairUse4WM, as it will have changed.
okay, thanks! i will try it later ...

Insanenerd
5th September 2006, 17:39
The "fixed version" is now mirrored at www.BG4G.net (http://www.BG4G.net) in the downloads section.

johner23
5th September 2006, 19:27
Some other user opinions about the DRM:

ROF wrote:
If you have to question why media downloads are so expensive you need only look at this thread and the Application it discusses. The consumer is the one who pays for these people who want to abuse the licensing agreements.


It never ceases to amaze me who the brainwashing of the marketing of the richest billionare companies have screwed up people people to feel that consumers feel guilty about that it is they who hurt the music industry, nut the industry themselves.

<b>During the rare moment that a federal judge or an attorney general lijke Eliiot Spitzer has gone after the oligopoly/organized crime elements of the RIAA abnd RIAA members, there are those who still blame those are are the consumer of their deteriorating product. </a>
The fact that the cartel has millions going to lobbyists to make the consumer think that they are the problem is amazingly effective [/b]

Some quick facts:
Of all of the horrific raids of citizens that is made at the expense of all of use who ise ISPs. It increases ISP pricing to furnish the RIAA private information about all of us.



I don't understand anyone allowing DRM files to touch their systems. Therer are other means of better choices and fair better quality than anything that has DRM in it.

NOT one penny of anyt of the discusting lawsuits that wind up costing all ISP users more money, have ever gone to an ARTIST. No a dime.

There is a currently lowsuit from veteren artists who are being screwed royally buy RIAA member companiues (screwing artists is what the RIAA does the best), over not giving the artists, like the Allman Brothers, the revenue that they are supposed to get under the ITunes agreement. The digital sales agreement gives .70 of heach somg to the record company, then .30 of that is supposed to go to the artists. BUT, what is being done with veteren artists, in this lawsuit whish has exmandedto a class action suit, the the artist is being paid a wopping 4.5 cents per song as if a CD or Record was purchased.

In a lawsuit against, the sleaziest of the RIAA crime family, Elliot Siptzer, D.A. of New York proved the amount of price fixing and massive payola done to Clear Channel to make sure that their artists only get played. Have the feds picked up the lawsuit, NO.


There are fewer and fewer releases of CDs being released each year. Even those that are seen on eBAY for over $100 for a used CD. This has amounted to the RIAA crime families having expanded their profits per CD and per song than ever before.

How many of you took advantage of getting refunds due to the strong arm tactics of price fixing that the RIAA cartel was screwing you, and the artists with?

There was so littkle publicity about the multi-millions class action suit that the tope 5 RIAA members got nailed on for price fizing. It involved $143 million going back to purchasers of CDs or Albums purchashed. With most NOT knowing about it. It was a nothing to make your claim and get as much as $20 back for any purchases you made. As of 2003, only 900,000 claimed their cash.



To but it bluntly, anyone who things the are "good, law abiding citizens", by supporting a system that hurts them and artists is a victim of the millions given to U.S. conventional news media agents, marketing machines and paid off politicians. THINK ABOUT IT. If you want to help the industry. DON'T support DRM, forget ITUNES, get used media, get media from allowmpe.com, which to me is the prototype of downloading music in the format that I the consumer wants. Let your politicians know that unethical laws need to be changed. An artist never losed a penny, by a download, in fact, it has added publicity, just when Radio was no Corporate controlled and DJs had control of what they can play. Remember free radio concerts on TV with FB stereo radio at the same time? FM radio announcing when a new album would be played? Concerts were all over. Since when does limiting artist exposure become a good marketing play. Since when does blaming its customers for theri failures become a marketing ploy.

Some artists are wising up, thank the lord and doing things outside of the RIAA's crooked hands.

Jon


[/list]


Thanks.

Digga
5th September 2006, 19:31
...mirrored at BG4G.net in the downloads section....and to get to the download section you have to register:You are trying to access a restricted area.

We are Sorry, but this section of our site is for Registered Users Only.

You can register for free by clicking here, then you can
access this section without restrictions. Thanks.
and even if you wouldn't have to register you're close to spamming with your links IMO.

Insanenerd
5th September 2006, 19:41
Close to spamming? I posted once when he updated to 1.2. And then again when he updated to 1.2 fixed.

My posts are always short and straight to the point, nothing more than "You can get it here." Or, "updated the file at my mirror."

For registered users only, yeah, thatts right. When you have 15 sites linking to your file and doing nothing but sapping your bandwidth, you do have to instate some type of policy to verify each download is a user and not just a leech.

*edit* Actually, you know, scratch that, I just made it public, but enabled a user verification box to prevent hotlinking. My apologies if you feel that I am "spamming" by posting my mirror as... several others have done before...:rolleyes:

Digga
5th September 2006, 20:01
@ Insanenerd:
while I understand your concerns about bandwith (i.e. money) I do not think it's o.k. to force a user to register just to get one small file. given, it's not really my business but I find it a little out of order to do so, especially if the file is mirrored a lot on free hosts without any registration needs.
this behavior is more like advertising the host than anything else.

anyway, now that you answered in a quite sensual and polite way I may do the same and apologize if I offended you.
but if you're concerned about bandwith why host it all? and linking to the main portal and not to the download section itself is another point that looks more like adv. than a community servcie.

edit:*edit* Actually, you know, scratch that, I just made it public, but enabled a user verification box to prevent hotlinking. My apologies if you feel that I am "spamming" by posting my mirror as... several others have done before...;)

blutach
5th September 2006, 20:21
@InsaneNerd - if you weren't happy at having "bandwidth sapped", you need not have mirrored in the first place. It is just a small file, as Digga has said. I have twice had to remind you about "promoting" your sites. Please do not step over the line (which you are very close to).

@all - I will remind you of rule 4.

Regards

Insanenerd
5th September 2006, 20:32
@InsaneNerd - if you weren't happy at having "bandwidth sapped", you need not have mirrored in the first place. It is just a small file, as Digga has said. I have twice had to remind you about "promoting" your sites. Please do not step over the line (which you are very close to).

@all - I will remind you of rule 4.

Regards


As I said above, I fixed that to a simple text box. I have no problem hosting a file for users of this forum. I draw the line at another site directly linking to my hosted file as if they are the ones hosting it.

And your issue with me "promoting my site" was a banner in my sig, not my posting of a mirror. Which, I might add, I PROMPTLY removed, Per rule 5.

mayang
5th September 2006, 22:34
Ok people, as for mirror it is not needed while the original link still available and accessible. Always please refer to page one for updated link.

If there are new version and 5 person linking for mirror it just bumping the thread. Moderator has the right to delete any useless post.

Thanks for co-operation.

blutach
6th September 2006, 00:55
@InsaneNerd - sorry to say but R4 strike issued. If you have an issue with what I ask of you, the public forum is not the place to argue it out. A PM is appropriate.

Regards

viodentia
6th September 2006, 02:08
Please don't mirror the program if you are in an area where such a program might get you in difficulty with your local authorities. This means the US, in particular.

However, it would be really helpful if someone in a safe jurisidiction would host the program, and help me set up automatic updates.

Amusingly, fairuse4wm.com is taken. Everyone be sure to download legal test DRM content from there :-)

rjamorim
6th September 2006, 12:47
However, it would be really helpful if someone in a safe jurisidiction would host the program, and help me set up automatic updates.

Dear me, how come is it not at RareWares yet???

protectyoursources
7th September 2006, 16:06
Internet Security expert Bruce Schneier has written a article published in Wired magazine about FairUse4WM and explians why Microsoft is fighting a losing battle .

http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,71738-0.html

Digga
7th September 2006, 16:08
Dear me, how come is it not at RareWares yet???because you lazy bum haven't uploaded it yet ;)

protectyoursources
7th September 2006, 16:20
FairUse4DRm is also causing Windows Media server problems according to CrunchGear .


Windows Media Experiencing DRMing Pains

According to sources, a problem between Windows Media servers and FairUse4DRM has currently crippled live Windows Media DRM abilities. If users try strip DRM from a file that references a live stream, FairUse4DRM essentially destroys the the DRM on the Windows Media server and renders the feed useless for other users. Technicians are purportedly scrambling frantically now to fix the problem, but sources say the glitch remains a mystery:

my DRM management console has said this for 3 days:
System Alerts

DRM issue
10AM PST Known issue : DRM systems are currently being investigated for authentication problems. We expect this to be resolved quickly.

Clearly they’re not moving quickly enough. Three days out and still no resolution. Has anyone been noticing any problems related to this error?

http://crunchgear.com/2006/09/06/windows-media-experiencing-drming-pains/

josh2
7th September 2006, 16:38
FairUse4DRm is also causing Windows Media server problems according to CrunchGear .

I'm not sure I see the connection? How is removing the DRM client side affecting the DRM server at all?

Josh

garyhasbigfeet
7th September 2006, 17:19
The infection continues :cool:

Another mirror in Requests at http://www.oth2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32

phenixdragon
7th September 2006, 20:02
So I am trying to give this a try but I can not find my DRM folder. Nothign comes up for it and I do not have a fodler called DRM. Basically with this app I am getting stuck at the Indvbox.key part.

Digga
8th September 2006, 00:07
So I am trying to give this a try but I can not find my DRM folder. Nothign comes up for it and I do not have a fodler called DRM. Basically with this app I am getting stuck at the Indvbox.key part.O_o
could describe in detail what you're trying to do here so others could help? did you tried the method with some reference WM-DRM files (e.g. from ezdrm.com) first?
...basically you just have to select the files you want to strip and are good to go if your system is set up right.

daveskiz
8th September 2006, 00:18
So I am trying to give this a try but I can not find my DRM folder. Nothign comes up for it and I do not have a fodler called DRM. Basically with this app I am getting stuck at the Indvbox.key part.


Don't think you will need your DRM folder if you use V1.2.

If you find you do need it the DRM folder might be hidden, mines in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM but isn't visible as default in windows. Indivbox.key is in the DRM folder.

protectyoursources
8th September 2006, 00:48
The DRM folder is a Hidden folder

usually found at

C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM

garyhasbigfeet
8th September 2006, 04:25
So I am trying to give this a try but I can not find my DRM folder. Nothign comes up for it and I do not have a fodler called DRM. Basically with this app I am getting stuck at the Indvbox.key part.


I don't have the DRM folder either but it doesn't matter with 1.2. :)

dirtminer
8th September 2006, 06:21
Has anyone tried this with purchased titles from Amazon's new service?

protectyoursources
8th September 2006, 12:44
This Works with Amazon Unbox becuase they are using Windows Media DRM .

They should have gone with DivX DRM ;).

DivX is interoperable on all DivX certifed Devices and Cross platform .

goodt
8th September 2006, 15:21
doesnt work for me .. sorry. :(

- i start the fixed version
- opens a drm'ed file (for which i have the license of course)
- wmp10 starts to playing the file
- i waited until the file is completely played
- closed the wmp10
- and fairuse4wm said: "unhandled situation -9013 while creating windows media instance"

so whats wrong on my side?

I have this exact problem. Any luck on a solution?

viodentia
8th September 2006, 15:33
This is an error number from v1.2fix
If you are reporting errors from this version, please include the drmclient.dll and indivbox.key versions from the key extraction dialog. This will help identify if you have a new IBX component.

goodt
8th September 2006, 15:36
This is an error number from v1.2fix
If you are reporting errors from this version, please include the drmclient.dll and indivbox.key versions from the key extraction dialog. This will help identify if you have a new IBX component.

Sent PM - thanks

goodt
8th September 2006, 16:36
Got it working when the light went off :)
Great Tool keep up the good work !

dirtminer
8th September 2006, 16:57
In another victory for DRM compatibility, the Amazon service installs replacement individualization components (IBX). In my case, the IBX it installs is the 10.0.0.3930 version. Given the rumors that Microsoft is planning a new IBX release today, I think I can be the first to suggest the following strategy:

Step 1; Get the new IBX
Step 2: Get licenses for new files
Step 3: Install the Amazon UNBOX client
Step 4: Use the original FairUse4DRM to unprotect new files
Step 5: PROFIT!!! Err, Enjoy your fair use rights

rjamorim
8th September 2006, 18:20
because you lazy bum haven't uploaded it yet ;)

Actually, viodentia is finishing his latest version and is probably going to send it to me next week, (hopefully) featuring an auto-update feature :)

Digga
8th September 2006, 18:34
Actually, viodentia is finishing his latest version and is probably going to send it to me next week, (hopefully) featuring an auto-update feature :)good to see that you (plus the HA RW team(?)) and viodentia worked it out for us to have a nice and reliable host.
thanks to both of you :)

johner23
8th September 2006, 18:41
Hi, dear all.

1) Can you tell me exactly which is the most updated version available for dowloading for FairUse4WM, please?

2) And what about any safe link for downloading? Any luck about that? Any solution for getting fresh updates without M$ boring people?

@Viodentia: it's unbelivable that some nasty guys "releases" FairUse4WM ( the fake ones, of course) saying that program need serial or other things to work or telling the program were released in other languages. If some real changes really happens, let us know, avoinding any risk to get some fake "release" about FairUse4WM.

So, people, be carefull WHERE to get the REAL, FREE and EFFICIENT true FairUse4WM / his updates, because in many places, some guys are releasing fake ones fully embeded with virus, trojans, etc. :mad:

Any safe solution about updates for FairUse4WM and stable releases, are welcome. ;)

EDITED:

Actually, viodentia is finishing his latest version and is probably going to send it to me next week, (hopefully) featuring an auto-update feature


good to see that you (plus the HA RW team(?)) and viodentia worked it out for us to have a nice and reliable host.

Very nice !! Just waiting !! ;)

Thanks and nice work !!

devil (johner)

robben
8th September 2006, 18:54
i bought a movie from a charging website, and it has 7 days expiry limit. i tried to crack it by fairuse4wm---which i used already before and succeed----but, this time, it comes out with a message saying no license available for specified file. this audio file is bit strange, because it involves me to connect to internet everytime i open it, however it doesn't require me to put password in, and consequently opened itself..please please, tell me what to do

somnus
8th September 2006, 19:29
Sounds more like a VOD Rental. In which forum rule 6 will help you figure it out.

protectyoursources
8th September 2006, 21:43
More FairUse4DRM coverage from Engadget

Microsoft now patching for FairUse4WM 1.2

As the war wages on between Microsoft's Consumer Media Technology group and the creators of FairUse4WM, so continues the march of memos and software updates being passed around to Redmond's partners in the business who are making use of the ailing PlaysForSure DRM scheme. After Microsoft fought back by readjusting the individualized blackbox component (IBX) in an attempt to shut down FairUse4WM, the DRM-stripping appsters created a second version (1.2), which circumvented that protection. Well, we have our hands on yet another Microsoft memo on the topic -- this time much more vague -- reasserting their commitment to patching this issue by dedicating "teams working around the clock" to it. Ouch. We suspect future memos may come watermarked, or... wait for it... DRMed, so don't be too shocked if the trail turns cold on communiques. War is hell, people.

---copied from source---
From: Windows Media License Agreements [email removed]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006
To: Windows Media License Agreements
Subject: Status - Windows Media DRM circumvention

MICROSOFT CONFIDENTIAL [This was highlighted in bold red letters, ha! -Ed.]

Dear Windows Media DRM Licensee,

As you may know, on August 28 2006 Microsoft released an update of the individualized blackbox component (IBX) of Windows Media DRM to address a circumvention of the Windows Media DRM system. Unfortunately, a new version of the tool that circumvents Windows Media DRM technology on Windows PCs has surfaced, breaking the content protection that our content partners apply to their intellectual property such as music or video content.

As we did with the initial circumvention, Microsoft will use the built-in renewability features of Windows Media DRM to deploy an update to address this circumvention. We have teams working around the clock on this project, and this update will include incrementing the Security Version of the individualized blackbox component, which should ease deployment and make it easier to detect the update remotely. We will continue to work closely with you to inform you of our progress and help you update your systems as needed. As always, we appreciate your feedback and ongoing support.

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding this circumvention or related updates, please contact [email removed].

Kind regards,

Windows Media Licensing Department
Microsoft Consumer Media Technology

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/08/microsoft-now-patching-for-fairuse4wm-1-2 (http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/08/microsoft-now-patching-for-fairuse4wm-1-2/#comments)

josh2
8th September 2006, 23:51
That's pretty funny..

One guy vs. teams of professionals working around the clock.

I do hope you'll keep updating this viodentia.. it's a really nice program.

In the meanwhile, anybody have a clue on how to avoid getting this update?

sc4s2cg
9th September 2006, 00:16
Good evening! :)

I downloaded your program (it's amazing on my grandma's computer), but came into an error that I don't think has been reported yet. It is:

Unhandled situation -3000 while Creating Windows Media instance.

I have windows Vista build 5734, DrmClien.dll version 10.0.0.3646, and Indiv002.key version 11.0.5352.6163. I hope you can fix this, unless it's on my hand, but any help would be much appreciated.

toon12
9th September 2006, 00:28
I suspect I may have gotten the update, stopped working and get this message:
C:xxx requires a different private key.

viodentia
9th September 2006, 01:59
Good evening! :)
I have windows Vista build 5734, DrmClien.dll version 10.0.0.3646, and Indiv002.key version 11.0.5352.6163. I hope you can fix this, unless it's on my hand, but any help would be much appreciated.

I don't have a Vista installation to test with.
If you are willing to try things, send me a PM, and I can try to support the new O/S
(same goes for anyone running Vista)

viodentia
9th September 2006, 02:03
I suspect I may have gotten the update, stopped working and get this message:
C:xxx requires a different private key.

Not necessarily.
If you get this error on a brand new license, then redownload test content from fairuse4wm.com (snicker) or ezdrm. Extract the keys.
If the key extraction fails, THEN you have the new update and please post the IBX version from the dialog box.

dirtminer
9th September 2006, 09:00
More, and I suspect unwelcome, media attention
http://gear.ign.com/articles/731/731958p1.html


"Amazon Launches Unbox Movie Download Service
Beats Apple to the punch, but severe DRM security flaws open door to rampant piracy."

expanium
9th September 2006, 09:04
because microsoft patch....

undrm end.................ㅠ_ㅠ

toon12
9th September 2006, 12:02
Not necessarily.
If you get this error on a brand new license, then redownload test content from fairuse4wm.com (snicker) or ezdrm. Extract the keys.
If the key extraction fails, THEN you have the new update and please post the IBX version from the dialog box.

Can't extract the key on the demo.
How do I get the IBX version? From what dialog box?
Thanks in advance.

strider01
9th September 2006, 12:25
I was just wondering, is there a way i can block my WMP from downloading microsoft security updates?

mydoom.fs.exe
9th September 2006, 13:13
Never the less that ppl are having problems with those updates, i still have my mirror.

Go Here (http://jaber.communityarchitect.com), then click the Download page link,
You may think this is wierd, cuz it is, now click:
1) the windows logo
or
2) the blue loading bar

to download the zip file...

(srry for the ads and the slow downloads, but it are cheap domains :(, but it should work just fine :) )

---
:thanks: for making this great program, finaly i can take my music with me! :)

protectyoursources
9th September 2006, 13:59
The More media attention FairUse4Wm recives put more presuure on the Record Labels and Studios to justify why they have to place so many restrictions on Fair Use .Most of the restrictions are not about fighting piracy but protecting old business models.

Amazon's unbox rental service is constrained by the studio's pre-existing subscription deals with HBO, Showtime and Starz Encore. The reason why Unbox rentals expire 24 hours after you begin watching (although you do have 30 days to start your 24 hour viewing period), is that anything over a 24 hour rental is a violation of the pay cable subscription window output deals. This has been the underlying problem affecting previous online rental services such as Movielink and Cinemanow.Given that pay TV output deals are critical to movie industry economic health, not to mention that the majority of these pay TV output deals last until 2010-2012, it is unlikely that online download-to-rent terms of service will improve in the near-future.

Restrictions on use should drive a cheaper price to the consumer, not the same or higher pricing, especially because the studios' cost to produce and distribute is lower in an online world. In turn, the rules/pricing of online downloads-to-own/rent appears to be intended to ensure that they have no meaningful impact on the movie/television studios existing (and highly profitable and important) physical DVD business. While this will surely change in the future, the goal today appears to be to protect incumbent physical DVD distributors such as Wal-Mart.

Unbox Internet download-to-own allows you to playback the movie on two computers and two portable devices, but you cannot burn the DVD for playback on a standard DVD player. Consumers need to connect their computer to their TV.


What makes no sense is the inability to burn a DVD, as well as limiting to two PCs/devices, is that the studios are competing against increasingly easy to obtain, albeit illegal, ripped DVD versions that have no restrictions on PCs/devices that can be burned for playback on any DVD player.This clearly also is to protect the Walmarts of the world who are planing to offer movie burning booths within the next year .It is also related to piracy becuse the studios are still using CSS to protect FluxDVD
and they plan to use Macrovision on Burn to Rent content .Any regular reader here will know that these encryption\protection schemes can be easily circumvented with a tool like Ripit4Me .

DivX would be the better solution and DivX as a comapany has said its respects Fair Use and Copyright .The DivX codec is also cross platform .

toon12
9th September 2006, 15:44
It started working, not sure why. I tried running it again, and it said it needed to recover the keys, did so, and works like a charm.

Thalassicpark
9th September 2006, 17:04
Preface: ubernube, here (please forgive) but striving to learn.

I ran fairuse4wm 1.2 on a folder of legit music with mixed results. About a third were converted successfully but the remaining songs all get the same error message of "UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size error...cannot be truncated..." yada yada yada. I truncated the files according to their size (down from "size on disk") in Properties and tried to strip that new file. Still get the same error msg. Next I tried the 1.2 fix but that hasn't helped. The problems occur even within one complete downloaded album, so it's not a matter of different downloadings for each song.

As I said above, I'm a lost little newbie at this and I'm about to give up on using the music that I OWN, dammit.

At least I got some of them back (and many thanks for that!)...

Thanks for any help provided

mayang
10th September 2006, 00:49
Preface: ubernube, here (please forgive) but striving to learn.

Try an alternative way.
Copy license information for the file you have problem with.
Make a folder name 'drm2', in this folder make a file name drm.key, paste kid and sid for the file you want to undrm, then use drm2wmv to decrypt the files.

Use the format below in drm.key:

<DRM2WMV2>
<KID>kid information here</KID>
<SID>sid information here</SID>
<INFO></INFO>
</DRM2WMV2>

d1g1ta7
10th September 2006, 04:35
Anyone know how to delete all wma files that do not contain [NoDRM]- in them?

daveskiz
10th September 2006, 10:55
Anyone know how to delete all wma files that do not contain [NoDRM]- in them?

Perhaps my answer is a little too obvious for it to be right but...

Sort them according to title, so all the ones that start [NoDRM] at the bottom, and then shift click or rubber band the rest and hit delete???

Sorry...

buggs1a
10th September 2006, 11:05
how about please add into fairuse the ability to auto sort when extracting like when ripping cd's? it'd bhe nice not to just say in same dir, but in new dir and put the songs where they belong like in their respective artist and album folders etc.

you all do also know urge music quality sucks right? it's only 128k compared to yahoo 192k etc. plus i am not even sure if urge has as good a selection considering it's mtv which i think sucks. i haven't tried urge tho cus of the sound quality.

josh2
10th September 2006, 13:20
Mmm.. Urge has 192kbps file.

So does Yahoo, and Napster (most, some stuff might still be in 128kbps, but all new stuff is 192kbpws).

Rhapsody has 160kbps.

AOL Musicnow has 128kbps.

And I can't remember what Virgin Digital uses.

And Urge's selection isn't that bad. It's not just whats on MTV... it's just about as good as most of the other subscription services.

Josh

Erich99
10th September 2006, 14:13
unfortunately, the ZIP-file offered under this link is invalid. Any idea where one can get a valid file?

buggs1a
10th September 2006, 14:29
When doing a properties on music in urge it says they are 129kbps so that's where I got my info. I was inside windows vista RC1 and using media player. i installed the urge thing just to see it. did not sign up. doing properties on music it says 129kbps. if when downloaded they are better then 128k that's cool then.

virgin is only 128k. they say it's better then the rest because they do douple pass encoding. i know this is crud because i know yahoo does double pass encoding on their 192k. i know virgin was just trying to sell me. also their service is absolutely horrific because there is no browse feature like all the rest. unless they changed since i tried them. at that time it was recomend only, no browse.

garyhasbigfeet
10th September 2006, 19:17
unfortunately, the ZIP-file offered under this link is invalid. Any idea where one can get a valid file?

Its still up at oth2.net. Here's a link again:

http://www.oth2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32

If that doesn't point right it's oth2.net then go to Forums
then "Requests / Filesharing".

Anyone have trouble with Amazon downloads? I'm dl'ing now
and don't want to run into any problems :)

dirtminer
10th September 2006, 20:37
The Vista operating system permanently breaks the Fairuse4DRM and drmdbg functionality by protecting Microsoft's valuable intellectual property from wannabe vigilante programmers.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/f/7/af7777e5-7dcd-4800-8a0a-b18336565f5b/process_Vista.doc
Permanent link:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/vista/process_Vista.mspx


The primary difference between a typical process and a protected process is the level of access that other processes in the system can obtain to protected processes. In versions of Microsoft WindowsŪ earlier than Windows Vista, the process model allows a parent process to acquire a handle to and manipulate the state of any child process that it creates. Likewise, processes that users created with sufficient privileges can access and manipulate the state of all processes on the system. This behavior remains true for typical processes. However, the level of access to protected processes and threads within those processes is significantly more constrained.

protectyoursources
10th September 2006, 21:28
And Who is crazy enough to install Vista .......

lbalan79
11th September 2006, 00:40
This is a big step ahead in giving us something that we really own but can get because of this stupid corporation fight.

Anyway this message is just to ask if would it be possible to make a similar crossplatform tool that works with internet streams. I hate microsoft practices and I have linux on my system. However I can't see drm links that I am subscribed too. I guess this would also allow the view of drm protected streams in other players than wmp.

mooiamacow
11th September 2006, 12:50
F:\Music\music\Discography\artist1\01.wma does not have a recognizable DRM header.

yes it does! windows media player told me it does,
same thing happens with another song i bought.
also tried ripping a cd into protected wma, but got the same error, that it does not have a recognizable drm header.

what am i doing wrong?

philippas
12th September 2006, 13:51
is there any way that u can unDRM files without being able to play them ?

Digga
12th September 2006, 14:31
You're always forget about WinAmp that works with wm drm files easily!there's some patch available to use it for convert drm audio to wav or mp3.there is quite are few media players that can handle DRM content.
converting to another format is called transcoding which will degrade quality. FU4WM goes another route with no quality loss.

is there any way that u can unDRM files without being able to play them ?that implies that you don't have a license.
if there would be a way then it wouldn't be allowed to be discussed here, please read the rules.

Digga
12th September 2006, 17:20
WinAmp+DRM patch is the best solution for people who cant use fairuse4wm but need to undrm their files.for example if you rip a cd to drm wma by windows media player and need to undrm or convert it.I guess you should leave the decision what's best for somebody up to them don't you think WinAmp fanboy, uhm, sunny2006?
without having used WinAmp for removal of WM DRM, in your previous post you said that this can be archived via transcoding (i.e. 'convert', the worst possible method).
now you mention the term 'undrm' which implies the pure stripping of the protection from the file without reencoding. can this be done via WinAmp? and if yes you might as well provide a link to the patch.

blutach
12th September 2006, 22:22
I guess you should leave the decision what's best for somebody up to them don't you think WinAmp fanboy
@Digga - please respect rule 4.

Regards

kits_2004rel
13th September 2006, 14:59
Has anybody seen the source code for FairUse4WM or drmdgb? can anybody post it or upload it someplace?

brturn
13th September 2006, 15:10
Has anybody seen the source code for FairUse4WM or drmdgb? can anybody post it or upload it someplace?

It is my understanding that the source code is the same as the FreeMe! program from Beale Screamer released in '01, with a nice GUI wrapper. I'm sure MS has modified the APIs slightly, which viodentia has kept up with as well.

Viodentia mentions the process in this thread (and a little lower in the same thread he reitterates it):
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=860871#post860871

You can find the FreeMe! source and technical description on CrypTome:
http://cryptome.org/beale-sci-crypt.htm

--Bryan

expanium
13th September 2006, 17:30
WMP 10.00.00.3646
IndivBox.key 10.00.00.3646

I used FairUse4WM(automate2.0) three days ago to remove the drm from 4 wmvs and it worked fine. DLed two more wmvs from the same site yesterday, played them on WMP to obtain licences but now FairUse says that the wmvs require a different private key! What gives?

also, load the URL into an embedded IE object...

Can anyone please help me?

Thanks!

protectyoursources
13th September 2006, 18:17
Try extrecting the keys for those movies by clicking the back button on FU4WM .

nike62
13th September 2006, 19:14
thanks mayang fairuse works ok

Mauroo
14th September 2006, 13:49
Firstly a big Thank You to viodentia-You may not totally appreciate what true freedom or "digital rights" you have supplied to the people at large against the evil Corporation of Microsoft. Many Thanks.

Now down to business, I have used your program and it works with almost all my files except certain ones which look up the license and play. When I use the program it teels me "###.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you". This is not true because it has been obtained from a paid website. If I am doing something wrong can you or someone please enlighten me.

:thanks:

michabo
14th September 2006, 14:06
Has anyone tried FairUse4WM with the latest release from Napster (v.3.7.3.3) UK version?

johner23
14th September 2006, 14:41
More informations about FairUse4WM and fair use in itunes fields too ( QTFairUse program): ;)

---> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/communications/broadband/0,39020342,39283147,00.htm

In case any iTunes users feel left out:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060913-7737.html

Quote:
it didn't take developers very long—just a few hours after the announcement, actually—to compile a new working version of QTFairUse6, version 2.3, that strips songs purchased through iTunes 7 of their DRM

Thanks.

devil (johner)

sirus20x6
14th September 2006, 16:40
I mirrored the new FairUse4WM 1.2 fixed on my site too
http://www.sirus20x6.com

optimusprime
14th September 2006, 16:51
n00b question here - has M$FT issued a patch for 1.2 yet? I'm using fairuse4wm 1.2 which was working fine on DRM'd wma files until I tried an Amazon Unbox SG1 episode to see if it would work - "recover keys" then said 2 keys recovered, and I couldn't remove the DRM. Then I went back to try more wma files and it wouldn't unDRM those anymore. Recover keys then said 3 keys recovered, but I consistently get the error from FairUse4WM - "<filename> has an unexpected content key value."

what can I do to fix this? TIA.

dirtminer
14th September 2006, 17:45
n00b question here - has M$FT issued a patch for 1.2 yet? I'm using fairuse4wm 1.2 which was working fine on DRM'd wma files until I tried an Amazon Unbox SG1 episode to see if it would work - "recover keys" then said 2 keys recovered, and I couldn't remove the DRM. Then I went back to try more wma files and it wouldn't unDRM those anymore. Recover keys then said 3 keys recovered, but I consistently get the error from FairUse4WM - "<filename> has an unexpected content key value."


FU4WM 1.2-fix works fine with Amazon Unbox - scroll back to find that version.

You need to delete or rename the blackbox-keys.txt file in your "My Documents" folder, and extract new keys.

markloveshawaii
14th September 2006, 18:26
Has anyone tried FairUse4WM with the latest release from Napster (v.3.7.3.3) UK version?

Why do you ask? They have a 7 day free trial.

sillKotscha
14th September 2006, 18:43
SKY TV pulls down movie downloads because of fairuse4wm :-P

they won't continue their service until m$ offers a working patch against fairuse4wm...

never ending loop story - patch for/ patch against/ patch for/ patch against... loop whole :-)

BSkyB halts film downloads over software cracks (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/12/AR2006091200837.html)

michabo
14th September 2006, 18:50
Why do you ask? They have a 7 day free trial.

Because Napster released a new version and I wondered if it was patched to break FairUse4WM but I can confirm all is ok.

sillKotscha
14th September 2006, 18:51
Why do you ask? They have a 7 day free trial.

he asked because napster could have made a working solution with their latest update against fairuse4wm v1.2fix... but they couldn't ;-)

mayang
14th September 2006, 19:32
he asked because napster could have made a working solution with their latest update against fairuse4wm v1.2fix... but they couldn't ;-)

As long as microsoft can't fix the hole or release a new patch for this tool, any media providers that use DRM technology can't prevent you to make this tool not working. They all using Microsoft DRM technology, not their player or software need to be patched but DRM itself.

If microsoft release a new patch soon, Hope it can be broke within a few hours and FairUse4WM v1.3 will in your hand. :p

johner23
14th September 2006, 20:24
working patch against fairuse4wm

I hope all these attempts failure again and again !!! ;)

If microsoft release a new patch soon, Hope it can be broke within a few hours and FairUse4WM v1.3 will in your hand :thanks:

God bless you, guys !!!

Keeping helping all the community. ;)

Thanks for all your efforts and great skills !!

devil (johner)

Insanenerd
15th September 2006, 16:53
Today I received this email regarding the hosting of FairUse4WM at BG4G.net (http://www.BG4G.net). Comical to say the least...:

Demand for Immediate Take-Down: Notice of Infringing Activity

URL: http://www.bg4g.net/modules.php?name=File_Repository&op=getit&file_id=1
CASE #: 54768

15 September 2006

Dear Sir or Madam,

Microsoft has received information that the domain listed above, which appears to be on servers under your control, is offering unlicensed copies of, or is engaged in other unauthorized activities relating to copyrighted works published by Microsoft.

1. Identification of copyrighted works:

Copyrighted work(s):
Windows Media Player 10
Windows Media Player 11

Copyright owner:
Microsoft Corporation

2. Copyright infringing material or activity found at the following location(s): http://www.bg4g.net/modules.php?name=File_Repository&op=getit&file_id=1

The above location is offering 'Cracks' or 'Product Keys', intended to circumvent technical measures that control access to Microsoft's copyrighted works and that protect Microsoft's copyrights in those works.

3. Statement of authority:

The information in this notice is accurate, and I hereby certify under penalty of perjury that I am authorized to act on behalf of Microsoft, the owner of the copyright(s) in the work(s) identified above. I have a good faith belief that none of the materials or activities listed above have been authorized by Microsoft, its agents, or the law.

We hereby give notice of these activities to you and request that you take expeditious action to remove or disable access to the material described above, and thereby prevent the unauthorized distribution of these cracks or product keys via your company's network.

We appreciate your cooperation in this matter. Please advise us regarding what actions you take.

Yours sincerely,

James Young
Internet Investigator

on behalf of Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052
United States of America

E-mail: Internet1@microsoft-antipiracy.com

Doom9
15th September 2006, 17:51
The above location is offering 'Cracks' or 'Product Keys', intended to circumvent technical measures that control access to Microsoft's copyrighted works and that protect Microsoft's copyrights in those works.is quite incorrect.. since when does Microsoft have copyrights on the music / movies protected by their DRM?

Insanenerd
15th September 2006, 18:29
:thanks: I love your angle ;)

garyhasbigfeet
15th September 2006, 22:02
is quite incorrect.. since when does Microsoft have copyrights on the music / movies protected by their DRM?

Please don't think I'm being snotty, because I'm not...
but don't they own the copyright on the DRM? I believe that's
their grounds and not the song/movie itself.

That's just my opinion though.

Insanenerd
16th September 2006, 00:22
Please don't think I'm being snotty, because I'm not...
but don't they own the copyright on the DRM? I believe that's
their grounds and not the song/movie itself.

That's just my opinion though.

They do own the copyright to the DRM, but this program does not contain the DRM, it removes the DRM from a file a person legally has a right to.

Egh
16th September 2006, 00:32
They do own the copyright to the DRM, but this program does not contain the DRM, it removes the DRM from a file a person legally has a right to.

Legally speaking they own copyright for *source code* for a particular DRM implementation, not to DRM as a method per se. Copyright does NOT cover idea, method etc. That's covered by a rather different legal tool called "patent".

Whenever DRM removal programs actually violate any drm-related patents, I cannot say since I dont' even know if any exist :)

johner23
16th September 2006, 00:39
it removes the DRM from a file a person legally has a right to

I agree: if I LEGALLY bought one file, music, dvd or whatever, I have the rights to listen/view and do whatever I want with my purchased copy! It's mine thing! Belongs to me!

And I wonder that some DRM laws are becoming very restrictives and non sense too, in many places around the world. :mad:

It seems they want to control/decide WHAT, WHERE, WHEN and HOW we should access our files/discs. In that restrictive behavior, FairUse4WM help us to have more freedom, above all. ;)

Thanks for that program again !!

devil (johner)

Egh
16th September 2006, 00:54
I agree: if I LEGALLY bought one file, music, dvd or whatever, I have the rights to listen/view and do whatever I want with my purchased copy! It's mine thing! Belongs to me!


legally speaking, you only have rights granted by copyright laws. Even if you own the dvd legally, you cannot e.g. rent it out or show people for money. You do have a right to make a backup copy for yourself, and thus FairUse4WM might help :)

P.S. if you are from Brazil, I don't think you should care about those "restrictive" copyright laws much anyway.

zooper_ca
16th September 2006, 00:59
Has anyone tried to use this on Yahoo Music subscription songs by chance?

optimusprime
16th September 2006, 03:25
FU4WM 1.2-fix works fine with Amazon Unbox - scroll back to find that version.

You need to delete or rename the blackbox-keys.txt file in your "My Documents" folder, and extract new keys.

Fantastic - never knew there was a blackbox-keys.txt file! I nuked t and now I am back to gleeful unDRMing. Thanks much!!;)

Insanenerd
16th September 2006, 06:04
Legally speaking they own copyright for *source code* for a particular DRM implementation, not to DRM as a method per se. Copyright does NOT cover idea, method etc. That's covered by a rather different legal tool called "patent".

Whenever DRM removal programs actually violate any drm-related patents, I cannot say since I dont' even know if any exist :)

Interesting... obviously the DRM would be patented by Microsoft... But is it a patent violation to un-DRM a file...Are there any cases on this before in the US?

blutach
16th September 2006, 06:36
Who wants to be the first :)

I know of other hosts to FU4WM who have received the same letter (hardly surprising).

Regards

drmgeek06
16th September 2006, 10:42
Fantastic - never knew there was a blackbox-keys.txt file! I nuked t and now I am back to gleeful unDRMing. Thanks much!!;)
That doesn't always help with my files :(

With v1.2fixed I was able to unDRM all files played before the installation.
Then I downloaded some new files, played them, deleted blackbox-keys.txt, recovered keys with FairUse but now I get the message "... has an unexpected content key value.".
OK - now I downloaded some more files and some of them work fine, but some others don't (same error message).
The old files still working, too...

All files are from one and the same service :/

Any ideas how to solve this problem?

"DrmClien.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3802
"Indivbox.key" has version 10.0.0.3930

Regards
DG06

Doom9
16th September 2006, 12:06
But is it a patent violation to un-DRM a fileI have yet to see any case in this particular area where a judge that understood technology would grant an injunction. The reason they can be successful with that angle is that courts don't have a clue about technology, yet still get to rule about what they don't understand. As an engineer, I find this quite insulting to everybody with technological knowledge.

Take Macrovision for example.. you don't need to know anything about the patents, and there are many professional level devices that have manual gain control, and thus can be used to strip Macrovision.. but manual gain control can hardly be construed as to violate Macrovision's patent (that you can get a patent on corrupting something is quite perverse in the first place).

mayang
16th September 2006, 12:15
All files are from one and the same service :/

Any ideas how to solve this problem?

"DrmClien.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3802
"Indivbox.key" has version 10.0.0.3930

Regards
DG06

FairUse4WM v1.1 will work fine for indivbox.key v10.0.0.3930
Yes, there are some files that you can't undrm.

Example:
1. Some files that need to acquire license for everytime you play. License information maybe temporarily saved then will be deleted when you close or stop playing the file.

2. Some files that have bad compression or damaged.

3. File partially downloaded and not finished like stream video.

Egh
16th September 2006, 14:50
Interesting... obviously the DRM would be patented by Microsoft... But is it a patent violation to un-DRM a file...Are there any cases on this before in the US?


First of all, as I said, I don't know what patents M$ claimed for DRM. Next, if you find them in US patent office database, you need to read them and understand what exactly parts of DRM technology are patent-protected. Only then it's possible to answer the question.

It might be, and quite likely, that unDRM method doesn't violate the patent(s). In any case, that should be decided by a legal institution, not by M$ itself. So until they got some court decision regarding this possible violation, it's all ok.

I just hope, though, that FairUse doesn't use any code from M$ :) That would be illegal, of course (think DivX3).

Another matter is the DMCA. Can FairUse be considered a "crack" program? If so, then hosting of it is illegal under DMCA, to my knowledge. Luckily many countries in the world can't care less about DMCA :) (think Russia :P).

buggs1a
16th September 2006, 16:58
zooper, works fine on yahoo music.

buggs1a
16th September 2006, 17:10
Hey guys, for files that load a license when you open it you can drag the file over fairuse while the file is in the play or cancel window. So you open the file and it pops up the licence aquired screen and has the play button or cancel button to click on. Just drag the file over fairuse at that time. Or you can play the file and while it's playing drag it over the fairuse icon. For some files this is great because for some files you buy they still do that.

drmgeek06
17th September 2006, 08:57
FairUse4WM v1.1 will work fine for indivbox.key v10.0.0.3930
Yes, there are some files that you can't undrm.

Example:
1. Some files that need to acquire license for everytime you play. License information maybe temporarily saved then will be deleted when you close or stop playing the file.

2. Some files that have bad compression or damaged.

3. File partially downloaded and not finished like stream video.

Hmm...
1. All files are licensed for 30 day use, so this shouldn't be the problem

2. I don't think that the files are damaged, because one complete CD works and another one completly doesn't work. And I never got any error messages...

3. Files should also be complete - if unDRMing works, it works for the whole CD. If it dosn't, it desn't for the whole CD...

I also don't think they'll change the kind of protection from file to file...

Regards
DG

blutach
17th September 2006, 11:01
Files which you have a temporary licence for (eg 30 days) come under the restrictions of rule 6. Please follow this carefully.

Regards

Bend But Don't Break
17th September 2006, 23:05
2. Panda's problem involves extra data appended at the end of some WMA files. Truncating these files to the length in the File Properties Object should fix the problem. If anyone can find what this data is used for, if anything, it'd help. Thanks for the find, Panda.

Is there a fix for this? How do I go about truncating the files to the length listed? 98 of the files I've rightfully paid for, and would like to play on my non-DRM portable mp3 player, give me this error...

josh2
18th September 2006, 01:43
I'm having trouble for some reason..

I went to de-drm a file, and it worked fine, but instead of giving me the full song like it should, it just gives a few short blips and then stops. The file is the same size, and shows up as the right length with all the tags.. the audio just isn't there.

Any idea what's causing this?

Happens with 1.2 and 1.2 fix. The source WMA files play fine.

edit: Never mind.. I got it to work. Deleted blackbox-keys.txt and tried again with 1.2 fix and everything works great. :)

buggs1a
18th September 2006, 22:53
Email does not work because people don't check their email daily or even weekly. Problems can happen that prevent people from getting email as well. So email is NOT a legit way of contacting anyone. Email should be completely dismissed. If someone receives a written letter that is offical then that is more legit. A phone call is also not legit enough.

aquina
18th September 2006, 23:52
I don't quite understand all the details on digital rights managment.

Once the DRM is stripped off a file will any future update of DRM software in windows media player be able to reject this file from playing or are the files safe forever?

Thanks for any input.

josh2
19th September 2006, 00:20
I don't quite understand all the details on digital rights managment.

Once the DRM is stripped off a file will any future update of DRM software in windows media player be able to reject this file from playing or are the files safe forever?

Thanks for any input.

I don't think there is any way that WMP could detect files that have been DRM-stripped, and even if they could, I doubt MS would be so low as to prevent them from being played.

Josh

sillKotscha
19th September 2006, 07:30
I don't think there is any way that WMP could detect files that have been DRM-stripped

even if undrm'ed... the file still have a specific header :-)

napster for example... load your (un-) drm'ed file into winamp and view file info - scroll to the end and oups what will you see :-P

that doesn't mean that a player could detect that drm was stripped but...

WalterK
20th September 2006, 18:54
And who cares. its all about fair use and being able to have a personal copy.
A copy to play on any mp3 player or PC.
Without drm to complicate thngs.

driftr
20th September 2006, 19:48
Okay I've gone through all the posts and still can't fix the "Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance" error.

I've tried on two machines with FUWM 1.2 and 1.2 fix. Indivbox.key is 11.0.5497.6285

The starting issue I suppose is I can't get either to even work with a demo file off ezdrm.com. With 1.2 fix I can get the wmv to play but then I get the error, and with 1.2 it won't even play unless I have the wmv playing prior to opening with FU.

I've tried renaming the drm folder and I've deleted the blackbox-keys.txt before running FU. Any thoughts?

*edit* Make that FUWM 1.1 and 1.2 fix that i'm using

drunknmunkie
22nd September 2006, 09:07
i just reinstalled windows xp...i'm using fairuse 1.2 fixed
my indiv01.key is 11.0.497.6285..
my issue is hen i try to recover my keys it starts up media player 11 and media player hangs it's say opening meida , but neverplayes anything...any clues?

caldis
22nd September 2006, 09:27
Hi
Lets say I downloaded a DRM'ed file. I use fu4wm and clean up the mess.
As is am legally entitled to by the company who sold/borrowed me the media file I am allowed to play this file on 3 different computers. Borrowed because most companies reserve the right to revoke the possession of the file in case of whatever.
So I give this file to a friend who wants to see/listen to it, too.
This friend (against my will) then posts this file to some p2p-network or usenet or alike.
Are all means of identification of the legal file-owner removed from the file so that I as the original buyer can not be identified and sued for copyright infringement that i actually did not commit?
Thanks

driftr
22nd September 2006, 12:55
Caldis, all header/traceable info aside, you gave the file to a friend so doesn't the copyright infringement technically start there?

blutach
22nd September 2006, 13:04
Let's not get into what does and doesn't infringe copyright, as this area is about the laws of various lands, which we are probably not all that qualified to debate.

It's up to the individual to ensure they do not breach the copyright rules in their country.

Regards

caldis
22nd September 2006, 14:13
Well this actually has got nothing to do with the copyright laws of a certain country (or at least this is not of concern in my question) since here only the license regulations of the company selling the file matter.

3. Can I copy this downloaded game to another machine and play it?

Yes, the license given to you for a digital download allows for the viewing and transfer of the download to three machines. [...]

Thus i deem my indicated actions to be legal.

EDIT:
Sorry for continueing this side thread. I just wanted to justify the legality of my proposed actions.

Bend But Don't Break
22nd September 2006, 14:28
Can't wait for FairUse4WM 1.3 :)

More than 100 of my DRMed files were done so under WMP 9 software, apparently, so 1.2 and previous renditions don't work.

smsmasters
22nd September 2006, 20:47
I'm trying to undrm some avi video files that require you to enter a login/password before you play it and then it acquires the license, I can't get it to undrm.

I have:

DrmClien.DLL 10.0.0.3802
Invidbox.key 11.0.5497.6285
Windows Media Player 10.00.00.4036

I get the error "No license available for specified file". However, it plays fine, I just can't undrm it. :(

Any help please?

aquina
23rd September 2006, 03:16
Are all means of identification of the legal file-owner removed from the file so that I as the original buyer can not be identified and sued for copyright infringement that i actually did not commit?
Thanks

I am not positive but from what I read on a different thread there still seems to be residual personal information left.
So be careful if you loan someone your cleaned files.

Yusaku
23rd September 2006, 10:52
I am not positive but from what I read on a different thread there still seems to be residual personal information left.
So be careful if you loan someone your cleaned files.

Not sure about that. From what I gather about the structure of WMA DRM, after all your custom licences etc. it comes down to 56-bit key which is used to decrypt actual packets. This is also the SID you enter to drm2wmv keyfiles. (not exactly technically correct, but enough for explanation). This key is only one for all copies of (single) media file the provider publishes. The reason is so that the downloads of actual media files do not need to be done using a safe (=computationally expensive) channel.

So if you strip DRM out of a file, it is easy to tell it comes from provider ABC (e.g. Napster or Real), but it is not possible to link it to leak source directly. But if you were e.g. the only one to ever download a song XYZ from ABC and it is found on p2p, it is quite easy to identify you ;) .

usual_suspect
23rd September 2006, 12:34
I'm having the same problem as driftr. If I try and recover the key with 1.1, then the file will play all the way through in wmp however it does not recover the key, and if I then close wmp I get the -9000 error. If I try the same with the 1.2 fix, the file will not even open.


wmp: 11.0.5705.5043
indivbox: 11.0.5497.6285

Any ideas?
Cheers

AudioFreeq
23rd September 2006, 16:25
There's a missing link here. How do I convert the cleaned wma files to mp3, to have real portability?
(WITHOUT quality degradation any worse than having encoded in Mp3 192kb in the first place)

Thanks for links to any (cheap) tools.

And does 1.2 still work? Where can I get 2.0?

Digga
23rd September 2006, 17:22
How do I convert the cleaned wma files to mp3, to have real portability?
(WITHOUT quality degradation any worse than having encoded in Mp3 192kb in the first place)there will be quality degradation if you gonna convert (= transcode) to another lossy format like MP3 no matter what you do. if you will notice this quality drop is another thing and depends on the encoder used (try LAME 3.97 beta), your ears and of course the quality of the WMA input.

Thanks for links to any (cheap) tools.there are hundreds of apps that are capable to transcode audio files.
foobar2000 (http://www.foobar2000.org/) is one of them (free).

And does 1.2 still work? Where can I get 2.0?1.2 (fix) is the latest version posted here.

josh2
23rd September 2006, 18:33
even if undrm'ed... the file still have a specific header :-)

napster for example... load your (un-) drm'ed file into winamp and view file info - scroll to the end and oups what will you see :-P

that doesn't mean that a player could detect that drm was stripped but...

Thats true, but should be all easily taken care of using a tag editor.. as that's all it is.

garyhasbigfeet
24th September 2006, 04:20
There's a missing link here. How do I convert the cleaned wma files to mp3, to have real portability?
(WITHOUT quality degradation any worse than having encoded in Mp3 192kb in the first place)

Thanks for links to any (cheap) tools.

And does 1.2 still work? Where can I get 2.0?

Soundforge is great at this too and it's free-ish. Plus it's hard to be more noob friendly than this app.

aquina
24th September 2006, 12:04
Does anyone know how to remove the [noDRM] at the beginning of the file name? I have downloaded and converted CD's that I have in my CD collection as it is easier than burning them one by one but I would like to clean the file names now.

In windows media player there is an option: Rename music files using rip music settings

Would that work?

protectyoursources
24th September 2006, 12:39
Does anyone know how to remove the [noDRM] at the beginning of the file name? I have downloaded and converted CD's that I have in my CD collection as it is easier than burning them one by one but I would like to clean the file names now.

In windows media player there is an option: Rename music files using rip music settings

Would that work?

Google :search:

garyhasbigfeet
24th September 2006, 17:11
Google :search:

http://www.usethesearchbutton.com/remove/drm/from/wmv

:eek:

philippas
24th September 2006, 17:11
My view is that unDRM is perfectly legal.
If you get files that have copyrights then getting the files is illegal not unDRM them.
There are many valid cases where you would want to unDRM files.

markloveshawaii
24th September 2006, 17:42
Does anyone know how to remove the [noDRM] at the beginning of the file name? I have downloaded and converted CD's that I have in my CD collection as it is easier than burning them one by one but I would like to clean the file names now.



You shouldnt have any [noDRM] on your converted cd files but for the others there are programs that will do batch renaming of your files the one I've used is called File renamer found at

http://www.sherrodcomputers.com/products_filerenamer.cfm


Just pull up the folder there in and click the delete tab and tell it to delete 15 characters in (from the begining) and click preview to see what it will look like then apply to finish it.

aquina
24th September 2006, 22:52
http://www.sherrodcomputers.com/products_filerenamer.cfm


Just pull up the folder there in and click the delete tab and tell it to delete 15 characters in (from the begining) and click preview to see what it will look like then apply to finish it.

Thanks, that is the solution I was looking for.

jewbaca
25th September 2006, 00:02
im using 1.2 fix
and when i go to to recover the key for a music file
wmp 11 (beta 2) just freezes at the opening media screen
it doesnt exit automatically and if i close it manually then fu4wm stops responding
if anyone can tell me how to fix this then thank you
o ya heres all the information that pops up when i go to recover keys

at the extract DRM v1 keys window it says
DrmClien.DLL v10.0.0.3802

at recovering unique identifiers screen it say
Indiv01.key v11.0.5497.6285

Mauroo
25th September 2006, 12:10
I hope I can post this here as its related. I recently changed my motherboard and CPU and discovered that the files that are still drm protected now refuse to play. I get the message

"Secure storage protection error. Restore your licenses from a previous backup and try again".

I have redownloaded the files in question all to no avail- I still get the above message.

Any help would be very helpful.

protectyoursources
25th September 2006, 14:28
Ah the Wonders of Microsofts Machine based DRM .

Microsoft in thier infinite wisdom use components in your PC as a indentifier .

If you replace your CPU and Motherbaord Mirsosoft considers that to be a new PC .

Contact your service provider and they might issue with new licences if you are nice .They might deactivate your old machine and activate your new one but its a right pain in the arse .....

Or just UnDRm them ;).

Zenitram
25th September 2006, 15:23
My view is that unDRM is perfectly legal.
If you get files that have copyrights then getting the files is illegal not unDRM them.
There are many valid cases where you would want to unDRM files.
In France, even for valid cases, it is forbidden to unDRM a file (this is explicitly written in the new DADVSI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DADVSI) law)
We are testing the reality with stopdrm.info (http://stopdrm.info) team (we have written to Microsoft and Apple about a website which provide FairUse4WM and QTFairUse, we are waiting for the reply :) )

dirtminer
25th September 2006, 15:40
so much for FU4DRM - Microsoft has finally released a significant upgrade to their components. They haven't updated the IBX number, so everyone reporting problems has the new version.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/25/microsoft-claims-successful-patch-against-fairuse4wm-1-2/

garyhasbigfeet
25th September 2006, 17:15
Another good reason to turn "automatic updates" Off!

Hopefully mayang can release a new patch to fix it.

driftr
25th September 2006, 18:21
so much for FU4DRM - Microsoft has finally released a significant upgrade to their components. They haven't updated the IBX number, so everyone reporting problems has the new version.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/25/microsoft-claims-successful-patch-against-fairuse4wm-1-2/

Sounds about right. I've built a test box and clean installed XP SP2 and am then finally able to extract a key from clips at ezdrm.com. I still have to get an update when I indiv. the box and have to download wmp10 but that's about it.

However my main goal is to attack my amazon unbox wmv and have yet to have success. Only have one file and no version of FU will work. Heck I'd buy more from them if I could remove the drm... anyone with unbox success have any tips?

protectyoursources
25th September 2006, 18:43
Looks like there will be an Update this week ;)



The Engadget Interview: Viodentia, creator of FairUse4WM

Posted Sep 25th 2006 1:03PM by Ryan Block
Filed under: Features, Interviews, Portable Audio, Portable Video
Instead of our usual run of interviews with industry luminaries and the like, today we're aiming the camera a different direction. We had a few things to ask the person whom we've identified as Viodentia, the creator of FairUse4WM -- the thorn in Microsoft's (and Yahoo's, and Napster's, and Real's, etc.) digital media business for a month now. Seems at once likely and not that the big DRM scheme developed by the largest software company was broken and broken again by a single person, but here we are -- and here's what Viodentia had to say about the digital music business, where Microsoft went wrong with PlaysForSure, and what s/he thinks about this latest memo and patch.

Thanks for granting this interview. So FairUse4WM caused quite a stir. How long did it take you to crack Microsoft's PlaysForSure DRM? Was anyone else involved?

Finding a way to extract key information took about a couple of weeks of spare time. Going from a prototype to a more general tool took a couple of months. I am the only developer, although my friends served as early beta testers and sounding boards, and with the initial release I've gotten to know some very helpful people.

So apart from any ideological or political distaste you may have for DRM, do you have any personal reasons for wanting to crack Windows Media DRM? Like, are you a Rhapsody or Napster subscriber?

No, due to geographic location, I'm unable to subscribe to those services. Only my selfish rationale is the challenge in pitting my skills against the industry leader.

Without revealing the secret sauce, what were the fundamental flaws with PlaysForSure that allowed you to break it? Did Microsoft know about these flaws?

Once code is released, there's really nothing secret anymore -- Microsoft didn't follow standard security practices, and left sensitive data unencrypted on the stack while calling routines out of kernel32.dll. Even when they fix this by changing malloc() to alloca(), it'll still be a big task to audit other sensitive routines for DLL calls. On a theoretical level, they have to send the decryption keys outside of their control, and their only defense is through obfuscation.

Microsoft apparently has teams working around the clock to fix the vulnerability -- and on the legal front they've started getting their lawyers involved, sending C&Ds to places hosting the software. What do you think of their responses to FairUse4WM?

I think they're fulfilling their contractual obligations, and I'm looking forward to their improved obfuscation technology. I certainly disapprove of Microsoft claiming copyright to my program, but realistically I can't do much about that. Nor can I advocate that folks mirror my program against their local laws.

Presently Microsoft has yet to been able to fix this vulnerability -- is it possible for them to repair PlaysForSure without totally starting over?

As soon as I release something, Microsoft can certainly patch around it. I can do the same. I don't believe that either of us has a nuclear option.

What do you think of Microsoft's latest memo, which claims to patch version 1.2?

I'll reserve full commentary until I've had a chance to examine the new IBX in more detail. I'll release a new version sometime this week.

How do you think FairUse4WM affects the industry? Do you worry that cracking PlaysForSure is going to lead to the end of subscription-based services?

I think FairUse4WM is a good thing for the industry -- it demonstrates that the entire world doesn't turn upside down when there's no effective protection on content. I doubt subscription based services are impacted -- programs exploiting the analog hole were already widely spamvertised. The value of a subscription is the continuing access to new titles, which isn't dependent on the protection. I wonder if any subscription company will publicly admit that FairUse4WM was good for them.

Microsoft supposedly has a new DRM scheme they've cooked up for their forthcoming Zune media player. What do you think about their jettisoning PFS for their own device, and this new DRM system of theirs?

I don't have any insight into the politics at Microsoft. If I come across a Zune, I might have more comments on their DRM system at that point. :)

I know a lot of people at Microsoft and its PlaysForSure partners read us -- what do you have to say to them?

I think the biggest mistake with the PlaysForSure / WM design is that it's targeted too broadly. By incorporating forced product obsolesence and platform restrictions, it misses the mark in managing content rights. My suggestion to future designers is simple: don't bother with weak client-side decryption. Instead, provide a public specification for licenses using digital signatures, manage the PKI through a not-for-profit organization, and apply social and legal pressure to programs that don't comform. Accept that folks can trivially patch around the system, but if the restrictions aren't onerous most people won't go through the hassle. If WM files were already interoperable and the license terms were clearly communicated, there wouldn't be anything left for a program like FairUse4WM to accomplish.

Thanks!

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http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/25/the-engadget-interview-viodentia-creator-of-fairuse4wm/#comments[/B]

AudioFreeq
25th September 2006, 20:11
Thanks much for the advice...

OK, I found something.

Getting the "unhandled situation" error when I clean.
Assume that means my WMP has been updated?

blutach
25th September 2006, 22:01
Interesting interview

Regards

UsedUser
26th September 2006, 20:41
I have files with licenses I can no longer re-download. The music store closed down and the servers quit issuing new licenses.

I have working licenses and the files play fine in WMP9. I can't re-individualize or upgrade, or AFAIK, the licenses I have will no longer work, and they are the only licenses I will ever have for these files.

DrmClien.DLL v9.0.0.3250
IndivBox.key v8.0.0.4477

Perhaps because of the old version of the IBX, I have no drmstore.hds file.

I get the following errors:

FU4WM 1.1:
When trying to recover keys:
Pop-up titled "Unable to recover private key".
Error msg: "Windows Error 80030002 while DRM_HDS_OpenStore".

Somehow I get 2 keys in blackbox-keys.txt anyway.

When trying to decrypt:
"UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Windows Error 80030002 while DRM_HDS_OpenStore."

FU4WM 1.2:
When trying to recover keys:
Pop-up titled "Unable to recover private key".
Error msg: "Unhandled situation -8600 while Creating Windows Media instance."

Somehow I get 2 keys in blackbox-keys.txt anyway.

When trying to decrypt:
"UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Windows Error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store."

DecryptIt opens the file in WMP, plays the file, closes WMP, and loops infinitely. Running drmdbg does nothing. I get a bunch of CRC statements in the cmd window, but then nothing happens. Nothing is written to the drm2 folder.

Anybody able to help? Much appreciated.

krystof
27th September 2006, 01:27
Hi guys !
Thank you very much for this great program !!!
And congratulation to Viodentia !
This program ( 1.2 fix) works with WMP ( 9.00.00.3250version ).
It' s so easy !!!
Thank you so much !!
Excuse my english, i' m french !
Does somebody know which upgrade from micro$oft can failed Fairuse4wm ?
Then, i won' dowloaded it.
Thank you !

xpigeo
27th September 2006, 04:05
im using 1.2 fix
and when i go to to recover the key for a music file
wmp 11 (beta 2) just freezes at the opening media screen
it doesnt exit automatically and if i close it manually then fu4wm stops responding
if anyone can tell me how to fix this then thank you
o ya heres all the information that pops up when i go to recover keys

at the extract DRM v1 keys window it says
DrmClien.DLL v10.0.0.3802

at recovering unique identifiers screen it say
Indiv01.key v11.0.5497.6285

I'm having the same problem. It had worked fine until I reinstalled my windows last week. Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

rjamorim
27th September 2006, 04:12
Version 1.3 is coming soon http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/devil.gif

Actually it's already at my server, but I'll wait for viodentia to announce it.

viodentia
27th September 2006, 07:27
As some of you have encountered, Microsoft has released a new individualization version, without updating the IBX version number. This would cause the "Unhandled Situation -9000" error, as this new code has some minor differences.

This new version uses a new extraction approach, courtesy of c0redump. The method no longer requires the selection of a DRM protected file, and should retrieve all ECC keys at once.

FairUse4WM has been my own creation, and has never involved Microsoft source code. I link with Microsoft's static libraries provided with the compiler and various platform SDK files.

Thanks for Rjamorim for graciously hosting in Brazil.
http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/FU4WMver13.zip

12815576c78a799114025b3b266dd156 *FairUse4WM.exe

smsmasters
27th September 2006, 10:10
EDIT: Works now

rjamorim
27th September 2006, 10:41
Thanks for Rarejim for graciously hosting in Brazil.

It's rjamorim, dude. Roberto José de Amorim :P

sillKotscha
27th September 2006, 11:27
but Rarejim sounds nice too :-P

seanyseansean
27th September 2006, 11:33
So has doom9 been subpoenad for IP addresses and stuff yet?

smsmasters: As i understand it the website you got that file from is a subscription service which terminates access to the porn once you stop paying. In which case you might want to read doom9's TOS.

vice101
27th September 2006, 13:43
hey guys..
i've got a few questions that i'd like to ask you guys
first of all, wat's this "individualization" that u guys've been talking about (sorry but i dont know much about computer)
and if anyone could write a step-by-step guide for me newb that would be very much appreciated

thanks

Bend But Don't Break
27th September 2006, 14:22
Glad to see 1.3, already have it in my grubby little paws. The one thing I still can't do, though, is apparently get past the DRM on the oldest of the files that I purchased, which apparently were done under WMP 9 DRM. I get the error about being unable to truncate the file. How does one remedy this?

Viodentia, once again - thank you. I continue to keep my purchased files to myself, only now I can listen to them more freely. You're a life saver!

George64
27th September 2006, 14:48
Hello,

I'm trying to use WMA-files from www.surf2music.nl. I'm using version 1.2 fix
The system check they perform worked out well. I downloaded my first album, no problem. I can play it as well. Than I started fairuse2wm:
- programms starts
- say's something that the license file is not avilable (I'm not sure because I cannot check it from this pc) and that I have to click the large button, so I did
- programm gives message about DLL. Clicked ok
- Programm askes for licened wma-files
- Went to the directory were I downloaded my wma-files to, and clicked on one of the files
- media player opens, and say's opening sourse
- no music to be heard and fairuse2wm hangs (based on the task manager)

I have:
DrmClien.DLL 10.0.0.3802
Invidbox.key 11.0.5497.6285
Windows Media Player 10.00.00.4036


Can anyone help?

Thnkx

viodentia
27th September 2006, 15:26
I apologize for the typo, rjamorim.

"not licensed to you" errors -

This is because the supplier of the WMV wants to track viewers. Some bonus tracks apparently choose to do this so they can get statistics on their audience or possibly for more nefarious purposes.

To work around these one-play license -
- Set your Wmplayer to prompt on license acquisition
- Open the file, and let Wmplayer acquire the license
- Do NOT click "Play", leave the Wmplayer license window open
- While the window is open, you can use FairUse4WM on the file


For the "truncated" errors -
I have plans to better handle ASF files that don't conform to the standard. I didn't get that implemented in time for this version.

AudioFreeq
27th September 2006, 16:19
As some of you have encountered, Microsoft has released a new individualization version, without updating the IBX version number. This would cause the "Unhandled Situation -9000" error, as this new code has some minor differences.

This new version uses a new extraction approach, courtesy of c0redump. The method no longer requires the selection of a DRM protected file, and should retrieve all ECC keys at once.

FairUse4WM has been my own creation, and has never involved Microsoft source code. I link with Microsoft's static libraries provided with the compiler and various platform SDK files.

Thanks for Rjamorim for graciously hosting in Brazil.
http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/FU4WMver13.zip

12815576c78a799114025b3b266dd156 *FairUse4WM.exe


(:-D)

skal
27th September 2006, 16:52
http://www.robots.engadget.com/2006/09/26/microsoft-sues-viodenta-for-copyright-infringement/

(rhetoric question: imagine fairuse4wm.exe being propagated using IE's long-standing 0-day or VML exploits, would MS sue everybody that has IE installed?)

rjamorim
27th September 2006, 17:16
but Rarejim sounds nice too :-P

Your avatar is nice. Everything else is secondary :cool:

josh2
27th September 2006, 17:38
Awesome! Thanks for the new version viodentia. Working perfectly. The new key extraction process is SLICK.

There is only one thing that is semi-bugging me about FairUse4WM.. and that is that I can't set a path for the output files that FU4WM will remember. Is there any way I can add a path (my desktop) to the output path list, and have it stay on the list?

Josh

smsmasters
27th September 2006, 18:23
I apologize for the typo, rjamorim.

"not licensed to you" errors -

This is because the supplier of the WMV wants to track viewers. Some bonus tracks apparently choose to do this so they can get statistics on their audience or possibly for more nefarious purposes.

To work around these one-play license -
- Set your Wmplayer to prompt on license acquisition
- Open the file, and let Wmplayer acquire the license
- Do NOT click "Play", leave the Wmplayer license window open
- While the window is open, you can use FairUse4WM on the file


For the "truncated" errors -
I have plans to better handle ASF files that don't conform to the standard. I didn't get that implemented in time for this version.

WOW, it worked! By the way, you're famous now.

Nqon
27th September 2006, 18:31
Thanks for all the hard work! works fine for me!

Is it anyway to donate?

George64
27th September 2006, 18:37
I have a Dutch version of WMP. Where can I find the option:
- Set your Wmplayer to prompt on license acquisition?

www.surf2music.nl pop ups a window where I have to enter my user-id + pwd. If I don't enter this information, nothing is going to happen. Do I overlook something?

Thnkx

rjamorim
27th September 2006, 18:46
Thanks for all the hard work! works fine for me!

Is it anyway to donate?

That would probably make it all to easy for Microsoft - and whatever else holds a grudge against viodentia - to track him down and bring him to court.

George64
27th September 2006, 18:47
:eek: started the new version of FU4WM, and it worked! :thanks:

usual_suspect
27th September 2006, 18:51
Hi, I'm having problems. When I try to recover keys, the window pops up saying that fairuse has to close, gives the options to debug, send error report etc. This pops up as soon as it says testing 1282 possibilites for primary private key. Any ideas? cheers

Unquist
27th September 2006, 18:52
Viodentia: you're a genius sir! Thanks for the kick ass software.

mayang
27th September 2006, 18:55
It is ashamed on microsoft, that they claimed their source code was stolen to create Fairuse4WM.

"It does not need any access to the source code as Microsoft alleges in their federal lawsuit. It is totally not necessary to see the source code to execute this tool.

For those of you who are real software and crypto geeks, you know that the explanation makes perfect sense and leads one to suspect the allegations of source code theft. But then again, this is merely my opinion." ....GoodStorm

protectyoursources
27th September 2006, 19:25
Make Sure you Digg the engadget story

http://digg.com/tech_news/Viodentia_responds_to_Microsoft_releases_FairUse4WM_1_3#c3223201

usual_suspect
27th September 2006, 19:56
Hi agen, i worked out that i needed to be playing a drm file in wmp before i clicked start. are there any ways to get the keys for '-not licesnsed to you files' in 1.3?

mayang
27th September 2006, 20:14
Hi agen, i worked out that i needed to be playing a drm file in wmp before i clicked start. are there any ways to get the keys for '-not licesnsed to you files' in 1.3?

If the program say "not licensed to you" it mean you have not a valid license for the media. Please don't ask about this again. This tool as it name is Fair Use for your purchased media, hope this clearly to understand this tool is not a hacking tool.

USE THIS ONLY ON FILES THAT YOU *OWN*

protectyoursources
27th September 2006, 20:29
If the program say "not licensed to you" it mean you have not a valid license for the media. Please don't ask about this again. This tool as it name is Fair Use for your purchased media, hope this clearly to understand this tool is not a hacking tool.

USE THIS ONLY ON FILES THAT YOU *OWN*

I have some protected media that I legitamtly own that have been issued with invalid\incorrect licences from a content services DRM clearance house , so this person could be trying to excerise thier fair use rights and make thier media work like it is supposed to.

If you didnt get the protected content legitamtly then refer to rule 6.

driftr
27th September 2006, 20:39
I'm also getting the "UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Packet truncated, 1553400203 needed, 66 remains, at offset 25" error with 1.3. So 1.3 fixed getting the key which I couldn't do before, but now all versions give that error. This is on amazon unbox avis not asf files.

usual_suspect
27th September 2006, 20:41
sure thing, i wont try to use fairuse on any files that i dont own. as a matter of fact the files that brought up this error are owned by me, i bought them over napster- note i bought not rented.

mayang
27th September 2006, 20:44
If you sure you have the right or license installed for the media and you get this type of message or error please refer to this steps.
http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=880589&postcount=271

If still not work, you are not lucky because there are various protection scheme on DRM (restriction) such as limiting to date and number of plays as well as the permission to transfer to a portable device.

Look at this
_http://www.buydrm.com/demo.php

Pay Per View
Allows content owners to sell their content in a Video On Demand Format where customers buy access to a singular file at a time.

TOKEN
Allows content owners to sell their customers tokens instead of selling them files. When a customer plays a file, KeyOS subtracts the appropriate number of tokens from the customers account. When all the tokens are used, the customer is denied access to the content, until they buy more tokens.

SUBSCRIPTION
Allows content owners to sell their content in a Membership Type format. The content owner can allow users access to their entire content collection for a set period of time. When the time period expires, customers are denied access to the content, until they re-purchase access, or re-billed.

MARKETING
Allows content owners to give content away for free, but only after users have entered key demographic information such as age, gender, and email address.

SILENT
Allows content owners to protect their content with out forcing the user to perform any actions in order to get a key. This model allows content owners to freely distribute their content, but track the content, and expire the content globally at some point in the future.

PRE-DELIVERY
Using our Pre-Delivery Code for Membership sites, available in PHP or ASP, you can now seamlessly deliver a license directly to an enduser through Internet Explorer 5+, without compromising the overall end-user experience.

Danj
27th September 2006, 21:03
Some more details on the lawsuit Microsoft has filed against "John Does 1-10 a.k.a viodentia" have shown up on the web here (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/107132.asp) in PDF format.

viodentia
27th September 2006, 23:47
For the v11 individualization, v2ksndv.bla (or v2ks###.bla) is now an XML file. There are two tags of particular interest, the first 40 bytes of "c:PKCert" is the public key for ECC encryption and the "Keys" which stores all the secondary keys.

Each time you re-individualize, the DLL sends "escrowed" key information to Microsoft's servers which decrypts it and re-encrypts it inside this secondary key table. These are all the keys for previous individualizations.

The <Keys> tag is encrypted with AES in Counter mode using the displayed key. To decrypt, create a 16-byte BIG-ENDIAN counter (that is, 16 bytes of 0, next would be 15-bytes of 0's and one 1 byte, and so forth). Encrypt that with the AES key. XOR the output with the next 16-bytes from the tag.

Once decrypted, the Keys tag holds a XML document which in turn has both the old ECC keys (which v1.3 happily extracts for you), and some RSA keys - the RSA keys are apparently new for v11, and I don't know what they're for.

By the way, if one looks at the individualization process in Wireshark, it's conceivable that future individualizations can be handled with the assistence of Microsoft's own servers.

rakesh
28th September 2006, 00:04
Dear Viodentia you're a genius sir! Thanks for the kick ass software. Indeed one of the most amazing software I have ever used. HATS OFF TO YOU MY DEAR SIR.

blutach
28th September 2006, 00:36
Thanks for the update viodentia!

Regards

valiant2
28th September 2006, 02:09
Viodentia.......

Your new version works a treat....thanks. I hope the rest of this post isn't considered to be off-topic (if it is then, mods, feel free to delete it); but I feel some things need to be said/asked.

I hope you realise how many people are 'lurking' in this thread (the number of hits must be tasking the server!) and I hope you also realise how grateful hundreds/thousands of people like me are to see Microsoft's DRM strategy finally being made a fool of........it's a fascinating story and absolutely fascinating to watch! I've been glued to Google News for the past few weeks. Please don't be tempted to take ANY risks with your anonymity......there ARE temptations.....I'm sure you realise how important it is to ignore them, no matter where you live. Infamy can be an addictive drug. With those guys on your tail you need to be fastidiously careful.....we can't lose you!

I hope you're also aware of the extent of the support you have. If you need any help to keep this up (whatever it might be) then I hope you realise how easily you can get it. I hope you know that all you need to do is ask. It must take a lot of your time to analyse the code. Why not break some of the more tedious bits of it up into bite-sized pieces and publish your need for analysis (on Usenet or something). I get the impression that secrecy isn't a problem or a particular issue.

I've read all your posts on here and your interview with Engadget but if you find the time I'd really appreciate your views on the following. It's basically all part of the same question:

Realistically, how long do you think that you (or anyone else who's capable of taking the baton) can keep this up? Indefinitely? Everyone realises that Microsoft are SERIOUSLY embarrassed and you don't have to be a genius to realise that they'll probably respond by throwing a floor of programmers/money at the problem but, in the context of your statement to Engadget that "their only defense is through obfuscation", how likely is it that they could 'obfuscate' successfully enough in the near or distant future to make a future version of FairUse4WM take months (rather than hours) to develop?........even in the context of a team effort by those who you could recruit to help?





Valiant

Lord_KiRon
28th September 2006, 07:10
According to this http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/14031 - Microsoft sues viodentia for "code theift" since they do not know any other way he could hack their patch that quickly :)

What a morrons, I guess while sue itself has no basis it's all about reviealing his identity, after that they will try either to "buy" him or intimidate him.

viodentia , my advice - please give your sources to someone so if something happen to you (hope not, but you know "legal stuff") this "Someone" will publish them on the net without your knowlege so people could continue to develop and we will not end up with situation like with DVDDecripter.

Also you might consider using Tor ( http://tor.eff.org/index.html.en ) free anonimization network .

And for DOOM9 I think it would be wise to delete the logs and their backups before some court demends to hand them over.

PatheticCockroach
28th September 2006, 09:25
so people could continue to develop and we will not end up with situation like with DVDDecripter.
Yes, that would be a pity. RIP DVD Decrypter... :(

Zenitram
28th September 2006, 10:30
FairUse4WM has been my own creation
Is it possible to have the source code of FairUse4WM?

garyhasbigfeet
28th September 2006, 11:00
Is it possible to have the source code of FairUse4WM?
I'm sure if it was V would have released it by now.

Just enjoy the ride and once M$ really gets serious I'd imagine
Viondetta will post it up on Sourceforge, Smartpunters, Rapidshare, Megashare, and just about any other filestoring/blogging sites that hold more than 1mb of file :)

vice101
28th September 2006, 11:14
hey guys..
i've got a few questions that i'd like to ask you guys
first of all, wat's this "individualization" that u guys've been talking about (sorry but i dont know much about computer)
and if anyone could write a step-by-step guide for me newb that would be very much appreciated

thanks

anyone care to help me out ?? T-T

Web Junkie
28th September 2006, 12:07
Just read about M$ wanting to sue you viodentia, I think M$ are panicking because they believe no one could possibly be more intelligent than them :D

I don't think DVD John stole the CSS source code to make his little piece of code did he? No, he used his brain, something M$ thinks no one else can do ;)

M$ are known for their security breaches, so probably someone hacked them and stole some code again, so now they're conveniently blaming you :rolleyes:

I think M$ don't like being told 'FU M$', lol!!

garyhasbigfeet
28th September 2006, 12:37
anyone care to help me out ?? T-T

I don't think individualization is required anymore. If you still
want to do it try http://www.usethesearchbutton.com/individualize/my/drm/files

Just read about M$ wanting to sue you viodentia, I think M$ are panicking because they believe no one could possibly be more intelligent than them :D

I don't think DVD John stole the CSS source code to make his little piece of code did he? No, he used his brain, something M$ thinks no one else can do ;)

M$ are known for their security breaches, so probably someone hacked them and stole some code again, so now they're conveniently blaming you :rolleyes:

I think M$ don't like being told 'FU M$', lol!!

Agreed. Here's a link to the article on Cnet.
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+sues+over+source+code+theft/2100-1025_3-6119892.html

Bastard judges in the courts are so old and technophobic they'll probably not have a clue either.

MINz
28th September 2006, 14:22
I'm having some trouble decrypting WMA files with FairUseWM 1.3. It gives me a warning that the file "requires a different private key."

The files play fine in WMP11, but I can't remove the DRM.

What am I doing wrong?

protectyoursources
28th September 2006, 14:35
Is it possible to have the source code of FairUse4WM?

Microsoft must have signed up to Doom 9 :p

viodentia
28th September 2006, 16:36
I'm having some trouble decrypting WMA files with FairUseWM 1.3. It gives me a warning that the file "requires a different private key."

The files play fine in WMP11, but I can't remove the DRM.

What am I doing wrong?

If you get "requires a different private key", go back to the first page and re-extract keys. With v1.3, watch for the final message, it should say "Primary and # secondary keys (0 bogus)".

If it didn't recover the primary, you can reindividualize - this will put the primary as a secondary key (which are easier to recover).

If it reports bogus keys, there's a bug in v1.3. Let me know

If it doesn't recover any keys, then my parsing code wasn't flexible enough to handle this particular variety.

MINz
28th September 2006, 17:34
If you get "requires a different private key", go back to the first page and re-extract keys. With v1.3, watch for the final message, it should say "Primary and # secondary keys (0 bogus)".

If it didn't recover the primary, you can reindividualize - this will put the primary as a secondary key (which are easier to recover).

If it reports bogus keys, there's a bug in v1.3. Let me know

If it doesn't recover any keys, then my parsing code wasn't flexible enough to handle this particular variety.

I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly. Your code is solid!

Thanks for the great work!

P0t
28th September 2006, 17:42
hm
when i start the program it says no keys loaded
i click in recover keys,click ok and then "Preparing to launch Media player" (indivbox.key has version 10.0.0.3930)
Clicking ok...the i select the protectet .wmv file and the i got this error "Unable to recover private key - No license available for specified file"
What is wrong here?

pjay
28th September 2006, 17:46
Awesome work on FairUseWM 1.3 viodentia, but I have something weird going on that maybe the "bogus keys" your mentioning. Everytime I go to play these files I can get the licences and play it through wmp, but when I use FairUseWM on the files they always play with green screen and squares which shows me that it didn't decyrpt correctly. The keys seem to always be the same for these files. btw I did look at your single post answer for the "not licensed to you" problem and tried that, but I still get a green screen and squares, I'm assuming I'm not the only one with this problem. also by reindividualize do you mean going back to microsoft's page and individualize again, because I thought they had fixed the individization so FairUseWM couldn't work anymore

P.S. sorry if I'm posting in the wrong place, or if I shouldn't of posted this at all, but I feel this was relevent to the bogus keys problem

Lord_KiRon
28th September 2006, 18:08
Wow !
Several 3-4 posts users in this thread just apeared, looks like investigation ios under way.

About posting the source codes now - it's a wrong move, will make M$ easier to patch.

About posting after "identified" - wrong move again since this will be probably violation of court order or something like it was with DVDDecriptor.

So my solution is the best - give sources to someone now, and if "catched" this "someone" will release them on net without your knowlege.

dirtminer
28th September 2006, 18:24
Awesome work on FairUseWM 1.3 viodentia, but I have something weird going on that maybe the "bogus keys" your mentioning. Everytime I go to play these files I can get the licences and play it through wmp, but when I use FairUseWM on the files they always play with green screen and squares which shows me that it didn't


I had that problem - ez fix! Rename your "My Documents\blackbox-keys.txt" and get the keys again.

pjay
28th September 2006, 18:35
heh if only it where that easy, I have done the rename/delete of blackbox-keys.txt for the past couple of weeks and still have the problem but thanks for the tip dirtminer. Should I go back to Microsoft's website and individualize again. Or will that break FairuseDRM usability for me.

rjamorim
28th September 2006, 18:39
So my solution is the best - give sources to someone now, and if "catched" this "someone" will release them on net without your knowlege.

I agree, that is the best approach.

pjay
28th September 2006, 19:00
This pops up as soon as it says testing 1282 possibilites for primary private key.

am I suppose to get something like this because so far FairUse4WM v1.3 seems the same to the previous versions in how it retreves the keys (unless as usual I'm missing something here).

unskinnyboy
28th September 2006, 19:12
I agree, that is the best approach.
I can bet that it will also be construed as violation of whatever C&D pact he would have to sign if he was caught OR worse, there is nothing stopping the prosecuting party from accusing viodentia of leaking the sources after he was caught, even if just for the purpose of making their case stronger.

M$ might have already reverse engineered FairUse4WM to study its code (they did say that they have "examined" the tool). Why wouldn't they? Anti-Virus corporations do that all the time to crack virii and release patches. So it's not like FairUse4WM's code is dead secret or anything.

Best would be to GPL and release the code so that others can also contribute or pick up when/where viodentia leaves off. I hope he never have to leave though.

Sharktooth
28th September 2006, 19:36
They analized it and... didnt provide any proof.
It's only their words vs Viodentia's words.
If they want to prove it they should release to the court their source code and prove it is part of the product sources that they claim Viodentia stolen, so an impartial expert (if both parties can afford his services, otherwise a public disclusure...) can analize it and compare it with the FairUse4WM sources.

P0t
28th September 2006, 23:21
about the "<path>.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you." msg...
I have the lincense.I can oben the file in wmp10 - it asks for the license.Then it says "License Installed - Please click on the Play Button below".Working...
I extractet the keys with fairuse4wm ..found 2 keys.

Extraction in progress on "Indivbox.key" 11.0.5497.6285 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1335 Large 6 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
AES KEY: 9e 47 24 a7 82 65 90 fb ef cf 14 4a 56 4c 38 f8
Testing 1794 possibilities for primary private key.
Completed. Primary and 1 secondary ECC key recovered (0 bogus).

Then i added the file tryed so many times to undrm but every time "does not appear to be licensed to you" blaaaaahhh

clicked it again and again.Then it works Oo
So why does it works only sometimes?bug?

viodentia
28th September 2006, 23:35
Then i added the file tryed so many times to undrm but every time "does not appear to be licensed to you" blaaaaahhh

clicked it again and again.Then it works Oo
So why does it works only sometimes?bug?

You are very likely running into a "one play" license. FairUse4WM only works if you have a license and doesn't have the ability (... yet ... ) to ask the servers for a new license.

The solution to this is let FairUse4WM use the license instead of Media Player - by acquiring but not playing the file.
- Set your media player to ALWAYS PROMPT before acquiring a license. You should have this as your common setting anyway, because it will save you from folks using the DRM URL to deliver IE Exploits.
- Open the file in Media Player and acquire the license, but DON'T click play
- While the dialog is open you should be able to use FairUse4WM on that file. You can also exit Media Player (Click close) and collect licenses for multiple files.

A future version of FairUse4WM will probably include code to request the licenses from the server -- especially if anyone happens to be handy with Wireshark and a debugger (The IBX encrypts part of the string with the server's public key - you'd need to "fix" that or otherwise extract the temporary key it creates).

viodentia
28th September 2006, 23:40
A Everytime I go to play these files I can get the licences and play it through wmp, but when I use FairUseWM on the files they always play with green screen and squares which shows me that it didn't decyrpt correctly. The keys seem to always be the same for these files.

Version 1.3 shouldn't have this problem, but .. There's a few things you can do.
A future version of FairUse4WM will verify the content key better. It's likely that you are running into a case where a provider reuses the same KID multiple times -- but with a different content key each time! Try running this while prompting for a license, that may help get the "correct" content key.

If that doesn't help, plese send a PM with more details

P0t
28th September 2006, 23:45
Damn thats it.thx very much viodentia ;)

mayang
29th September 2006, 02:29
A Everytime I go to play these files I can get the licences and play it through wmp, but when I use FairUseWM on the files they always play with green screen and squares which shows me that it didn't decyrpt correctly. The keys seem to always be the same for these files.

You got green screen and squares for wmv files because the files has been converted with WRONG combination key pair or with another word, wrong SID information.

Some media files (wma/wmv) have a same KID and use a same SID. For example :

<KID>September Video</KID>
<SID>xxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyy</SID>

Above key pair valid for all media you download for september video.(just an example)

But maybe provider change/update the SID for another files that use the same KID, but with different SID as below

<KID>September Video</KID>
<SID>yyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzz</SID>

To solve the problem, try to recover key again and convert the file ALONE not multiple or batch.

Good Luck

pjay
29th September 2006, 02:40
Thanks mayang, I thought it was the wrong keys on those files. Because sometimes different keys will come up for files I tried to undrm before with the first keys, but with no luck, then I try the second keys and they work.

Sx66gns
29th September 2006, 03:33
thanks folks


/Salute.

Pulp Catalyst
29th September 2006, 05:49
just wanted to say really, you may already do this, but hey just in case, as microsoft are obviously reverse engineering you program to no end, you should make it more harder for them, and encrypt your executable as much as possible, i.e. Armadillo, as this would make it very hard for them, and help protect your code from prying eye's, as your finding holes in there software, but by looking at your code, will help feel there holes,

just thought it would be great if you could make there task forever difficult of reverse engineering your fine work,
armadillo is good, but you need to knit the protection as much as possible in your source code, and create 1000's of jmp calls,

but of course you maybe doing this already, and if you are, then don't listen to me,

p.s. not sure if armadillo is the best, but if used wisely can be very powerful, but of course this logic works the opposite to,

Pulp Catalyst
29th September 2006, 05:54
1 more thing, untill the lawsuit blows over, it may be a good idea to upload the file from a public terminal, cybercafe for example, as i.p. tracing will start, and changing the name of the file may help aswell, sorry to go on, but i'm sure everyone here agrees that extra methods to keep you safe should be deployed,

also go to different terminals aswell (different terminal sites), this will in effect spoof your i.p., can't trace a i.p. if it's always different, this is all great what your doing, but it's more paramount to protect your self, then to risk getting caught, great work has been achieve from great people in history because they never got caught,

i know i know, i'll shut up now....just worried about you that's all, after all they caught up with DVD jon in the end, he was lucky, but you may not be so lucky, just protect your self, and leave no traces,

maybe a good idea to encrypt your hard drive or at the very least all references to the source code with AES encryption with 50 no make that 80 character long (a famous passage, or a sequence for password, but just keep doubling it up so it becomes 80 characters long)

i heard that drive crypt is suppose to be good, but the thing about commercial software is you never know if there is a backdoor, go with 7zip with AES 256bit key.

i hear you....i'll shut up now.

ross_MoHaX
29th September 2006, 09:17
Hi! Is there any detailed description how MS-DRM v.2 work and what vulnerability was used to remove DRM protection?

Sharktooth
29th September 2006, 11:51
the "ultimate" distribution method: http://freenet.sf.net

CruNcher
29th September 2006, 12:58
Microsoft must have signed up to Doom 9 :p

There were allready Microsoft Employers from the Media Division registered here on Doom9, before Fairuse4WM has been posted here.

rjamorim
29th September 2006, 13:47
the "ultimate" distribution method: http://freenet.sf.net

My arse. Using freenet is a huge pain. I'd rather use Tor or bittorrent or eMule (the latter ones are not as anonymous, but "anonymous enough").

protectyoursources
29th September 2006, 14:35
The TOR network is sufficent enough to upload FU4WM to mirror sites and if you install the TORpark browser its sets up TOR and Firefox automaticly and dont use your regular email adress if the site requires registration .

http://www.torrify.com/

Sharktooth
29th September 2006, 17:05
My arse. Using freenet is a huge pain. I'd rather use Tor or bittorrent or eMule (the latter ones are not as anonymous, but "anonymous enough").
It's a pain but its completely anonymous...

Boost
29th September 2006, 18:58
FairUse4WM has been my own creation, and has never involved Microsoft source code. I link with Microsoft's static libraries provided with the compiler and various platform SDK files.

You could ofcause protect the future of FairUse4WM and proove to everybody that that is infact so by releasing the source to the public. Should you go under by Microsoft thugs they have no way of attacking the software as anyone could continue to develop it.

Pulp Catalyst
29th September 2006, 19:17
don't release the source, if you do that and they catch up with you, your arse will be fried, and not only that, MS would love to look at your source file, if any think i think you should protect your source like i said before, if you know that you have not used there source code of any kind, well then you have nothing to prove.

innocent until proven guilty mate, the ball is in there court (so to speak),

let them show there hand first, and keep your self hidden, unless of course your a billionair and can stand up to them through the system, if not, then like old school, be invisible,

Rrrough
29th September 2006, 19:47
For those who don't know:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/06/29/bill_gates_roots/

This is why M$ thinks viodentia must have used their sourcecode :D

cheers

rjamorim
29th September 2006, 20:21
don't release the source, if you do that and they catch up with you, your arse will be fried, and not only that, MS would love to look at your source file

Dude, Microsoft doesn't need the source file. They surely have enough resources to support a reverse engineering effort. Sources would only make their job slightly easier.

f any think i think you should protect your source like i said before, if you know that you have not used there source code of any kind, well then you have nothing to prove.

It's not about proving anything, it's about avoiding that FU4WM has the same sad fate as DVDDecrypter.

innocent until proven guilty mate

That won't help him when he is dragged to court and is forced to start shelling out big bucks for lawyers and court procedures and the like.

Boost
29th September 2006, 20:43
It's not about proving anything, it's about avoiding that FU4WM has the same sad fate as DVDDecrypter.

Exactly my point

blutach
29th September 2006, 23:53
Let us hope that viodentia has protected himself and leave him to make his own decision regarding his code. He is clearly no fool.

Regards

LANjackal
30th September 2006, 00:13
Does anyone have any idea how to deal with the truncation issue? It appears like this in my case:

K:\My Music\Quicksand\Slip\Quicksand_Slip_Fazer_160kbps.WMA UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 9957960910 cannot be truncated to 1368026318.

The question has been asked by several other users, but no definitive answer has been forthcoming. Thanks.

protectyoursources
30th September 2006, 01:44
I got the truncation error when one of the partitions on my hard drive was full.

LANjackal
30th September 2006, 02:21
I got the truncation error when one of the partitions on my hard drive was full.

Thanks, but I have plenty of space on this end so that's not it.

vice101
30th September 2006, 08:43
so i finally was able to converted some of the files but there are still some left that gave me error messages

UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Unsupported Error correction (ad) at packet offset 0.
UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Packet truncated, 60085 needed, 220 remains, at offset 24
UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Packet truncated, 32302 needed, 138 remains, at offset 19

these are the errors i've got. can anyone fix it ??

ps thanks for the program tho

yirm
30th September 2006, 17:45
Does anyone have any idea how to deal with the truncation issue? It appears like this in my case:



The question has been asked by several other users, but no definitive answer has been forthcoming. Thanks.


Not sure if it's the same case, but I've had to deal with files that were too long for the program to handle (for whatever reason). I'd suggest renaming the source files with shorter names (if applicable), and directing the output to a folder not so deep in the directory structure.

-yirm

viodentia
30th September 2006, 23:44
The truncation errors that I have seen so far are all the result of files that aren't compliant with the ASF specification. I didn't want to write out corrupt files, so I aborted processing rather than quietly ignoring these faults.

A future version should have a more tolerant ASF parser
Until then, you can use "fairuse4wm" to get the encryption keys and use drm2wmv to decrypt ( right-click on the files)
Or, for those with programming inclinations, it's possible to rewrite the ASF file to be conformant without knowing the encryption keys.


--
Total pathname length is a problem. You can work around this by using "subst" to create shorter paths. Working around this seems require changing C-style file operations to use Win32 native API's, so I haven't been eager to address this.

emirikol
1st October 2006, 06:28
I'm having problems with unDRM my files. The program works and produces a file, but I when I play it I get a tiny bit of garbled video(colored blocks at top of frame) and the audio is off for a minute or so. The video clears after the first 30 seconds and the audio corrects later about 1 or 2 minutes later. What's happened? Is there something I can do to fix this? BTW, I've already retried again after deleting the blackbox-keys.txt and it doesn't correct the problem. Any help here?

chuckyboy5
2nd October 2006, 04:17
Hi guys, I downloaded this program a few weeks back and it was working great, now for some reason it won't work any longer. When ever I try to unDRM a video file of mine I get an error message that says "no license available for specified file" The thing is I do own the license to the files, it has worked before, and WM Player doesn't even pop up like it used to, to try and recover the license, I just get this message by default for every video file I have now.

Is there any solution to this? I've already tried uninstalling the program and reinstalling, and I've deleted the black-box file. I'm just confused why it would work one day, and not the next. Is there maybe a new security device that they're putting in the files now?

Thanks for any help I can get,
Chuckyboy5

mayang
2nd October 2006, 05:23
@emirikol
The problem is about ASF stream or codec used for the file. FairUse4WM at this time not support for file re-encoding. Its only remove DRM license information in the file.

@chuckyboy5
You download FairUse4WM a few weeks ago? Version 1.3 just has been released 3 days ago. Download the latest one, refer to the first page from this thread for download link.

Welcome all to all new members and new posters. I hope before posting about problem using FairUse4WM, please read previous post, do a search, then ask if it is necessary to post or ask about your problem.

:rolleyes: Just curious about spammed

n3rdyguy
2nd October 2006, 07:36
Hello everyone!

I've been following this thread closely and finally, when ver. 1.3 was released I unDRM'ed my first movie file, and have since done more than 500 music files.. So I thought I'd share some free filehost links with you :

This is the FU4WMver13.zip from page 14 of this thread.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pboj28
http://maxupload.com/36D11188
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2BQANXGF
http://www.filefactory.com/file/e7be32/

Enjoy.

garyhasbigfeet
2nd October 2006, 19:03
I think it's still up pretty much everywhere in the thread
It's still on the oth2.net (http://www.oth2.net/forums) forums (version 1.3)

trodas
2nd October 2006, 19:42
I would just like to say a big THANKS for the autor of this little nice proggy :D

It, sadly, did not help me with file that is not licensed to me (what pig*ucker share on emule RAM protected files?!) yet have catchy title (at least for me :D ) - but still awesome work.

Is there anything that can kill the license w/o being actually able to play it, so I can see that the insides of the file are irrelevant to my interests and I was been just, well, tricked? :p ;)

(no, the license-getting thing always say that it cannot connect to, so probably the license issuer are out of bussines or the file is fake (advert only?), maybe? Possibly?)

Yusaku
2nd October 2006, 20:55
It, sadly, did not help me with file that is not licensed to me
You DO have licence for the file, right?
:readrule:
This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use) might be an interesting read for you.

And please leave that kind of language for your friends at a pub or comments at www.idnes.cz.

blutach
2nd October 2006, 23:01
@trodas - you have been here long enough to know better.

Plus, please do not be ill mannered in your posting. This thread is all about FU4WM assisting members in excercing their Fair Use rights, not for piracy. Strike issued.

Regards

lpm
2nd October 2006, 23:39
... Until then, you can use "fairuse4wm" to get the encryption keys and use drm2wmv to decrypt ( right-click on the files)

Let's clarify the steps involved in this process:

1) First you need to obtain the keys (KID/SID) for the DRM'ed file.

Fire up FairUse4VM
Drag and Drop the DRM'ed file into the FairUse4VM Windows
Right click on the filename of the DRM'ed file in the FairUse4VM window and select "KID/SID"
Copy everything between <KID> and </SID> into the clipboard

2) Use drm2wmv (ed2k://|file|drm2wmv.exe|87552|f653367a8d03bff546c7374caa39fcb9|) to make the file device-independent

Create a text file drm.key, paste the KID/SID into it and add the DRM2WMV tag (and optionally an INFO tag) as such:<DRM2WMV2>
<KID>VeY*ap0pAEiCgoMmIZ43GQ==</KID>
<SID>sdhtUExMi/atMjFIxpXnFPQBdio=</SID>
<INFO>I'll be back</INFO>
</DRM2WMV2>

Place drm.key in a subdirectory called drm2, and place drm2wmv.exe in the same directory as drm2.
Drag and Drop the DRM'ed file onto drm2wmv.exe

mayang
3rd October 2006, 00:31
How exactly do you do that ? (I.e., what are the specific steps to use FairUse4VM to extract KID/SID but not to decrypt, and use drm2wmv to decrypt? )

I know how to use drm2wmv but I don't know how to get FairUse4VM to display the KID/SID for a DRM'ed file.

Welcome!!! lpm
A future version should have a more tolerant ASF parser
Until then, you can use "fairuse4wm" to get the encryption keys and use drm2wmv to decrypt ( right-click on the files)
Or, for those with programming inclinations, it's possible to rewrite the ASF file to be conformant without knowing the encryption keys.

( right-click on the files)

wschlessman
3rd October 2006, 01:27
Been wanting to download FairUse4WM but, can't seem to find a site that has it. Would seem from what has been said here that it is available on Doom9 but, I can't seem to find it. Any help out there?

setrip_old, Found it right after I posted this.
Thanks :-)

setarip_old
3rd October 2006, 01:31
Hi!I can't seem to find itYou'll find the link in post #2 of this thread...

chuckyboy5
3rd October 2006, 03:34
Hi guys, I downloaded this program a few weeks back and it was working great, now for some reason it won't work any longer. When ever I try to unDRM a video file of mine I get an error message that says "no license available for specified file" The thing is I do own the license to the files, it has worked before, and WM Player doesn't even pop up like it used to, to try and recover the license, I just get this message by default for every video file I have now.

Is there any solution to this? I've already tried uninstalling the program and reinstalling, and I've deleted the black-box file. I'm just confused why it would work one day, and not the next. Is there maybe a new security device that they're putting in the files now?

Thanks for any help I can get,
Chuckyboy5



@chuckyboy5
You download FairUse4WM a few weeks ago? Version 1.3 just has been released 3 days ago. Download the latest one, refer to the first page from this thread for download link.



I've tried the new version as well as the old version and it's the same problem. Ironically it was the older version, 1.2 I think, that worked for files from the same source at first. Any other suggestions?

garyhasbigfeet
3rd October 2006, 04:20
Been wanting to download FairUse4WM but, can't seem to find a site that has it. Would seem from what has been said here that it is available on Doom9 but, I can't seem to find it. Any help out there?
There's like 10 links right above your post...

odyssey
3rd October 2006, 12:41
What to do when files are not one-play, plays fine in WMP10, and only some files from the same album "... does not appear to be licensed to you"? And yes I DID pay for the damn thing, now I want to actually use it!

protectyoursources
3rd October 2006, 14:49
What to do when files are not one-play, plays fine in WMP10, and only some files from the same album "... does not appear to be licensed to you"? And yes I DID pay for the damn thing, now I want to actually use it!:search: Search the Forums .. About 2 pages back I think .

odyssey
3rd October 2006, 16:22
:search: Search the Forums .. About 2 pages back I think .

:angry: Read my post and read the thread if you want to be smart! i did - several times, hence I post now!

about the "<path>.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you." msg...
I have the lincense.I can oben the file in wmp10 - it asks for the license.Then it says "License Installed - Please click on the Play Button below".Working...
I extractet the keys with fairuse4wm ..found 2 keys.

Extraction in progress on "Indivbox.key" 11.0.5497.6285 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1335 Large 6 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
AES KEY: 9e 47 24 a7 82 65 90 fb ef cf 14 4a 56 4c 38 f8
Testing 1794 possibilities for primary private key.
Completed. Primary and 1 secondary ECC key recovered (0 bogus).

Then i added the file tryed so many times to undrm but every time "does not appear to be licensed to you" blaaaaahhh

clicked it again and again.Then it works Oo
So why does it works only sometimes?bug?

You are very likely running into a "one play" license. FairUse4WM only works if you have a license and doesn't have the ability (... yet ... ) to ask the servers for a new license.

The solution to this is let FairUse4WM use the license instead of Media Player - by acquiring but not playing the file.
- Set your media player to ALWAYS PROMPT before acquiring a license. You should have this as your common setting anyway, because it will save you from folks using the DRM URL to deliver IE Exploits.
- Open the file in Media Player and acquire the license, but DON'T click play
- While the dialog is open you should be able to use FairUse4WM on that file. You can also exit Media Player (Click close) and collect licenses for multiple files.

A future version of FairUse4WM will probably include code to request the licenses from the server -- especially if anyone happens to be handy with Wireshark and a debugger (The IBX encrypts part of the string with the server's public key - you'd need to "fix" that or otherwise extract the temporary key it creates).

Version 1.3 shouldn't have this problem, but .. There's a few things you can do.
A future version of FairUse4WM will verify the content key better. It's likely that you are running into a case where a provider reuses the same KID multiple times -- but with a different content key each time! Try running this while prompting for a license, that may help get the "correct" content key.

If that doesn't help, plese send a PM with more details

It's NOT a one-play license, as I stated - I can play it as many times I want, and the properties says unrestricted, also why would an audio album have different license restrictions?

blutach
3rd October 2006, 16:27
Let's have cooler tempers please.

Regards

Sharktooth
3rd October 2006, 20:32
Another mirror can't be a bad thing:
http://www.webalice.it/f.corriga/misc/FU4WMver13.zip

Let's have cooler tempers please.

Regards
However he's right, the 2nd post link doesnt work.

blutach
4th October 2006, 01:09
Be that as it may, we should always be polite to each other.

Regards

Sharktooth
4th October 2006, 01:41
Im at home with flu so im actually quite polite...
But im much less polite when im stressed by my job.
Everyone has his own crappy day...
However more mirrors are welcome since i dont know how much time i can keep it up...

nfm
4th October 2006, 01:53
Mirror - Version 1.3 (http://www.zeroangel.ch/XP64_ua_cd_pack/nfmfiles/other/FU4WMver13.zip)

HostFat
4th October 2006, 01:58
Does it support WinXP 64Bit ?
It gives this error: ibx components do not appear to be present
If not, can you add the support about the 64bit version?

RichW
4th October 2006, 04:05
I'm kind of a newbee here but I was hoping someone could help me with this one.
I am using FairUse4WM v1.3 and amd getting an error when trying to remove the drm.
The DrmClien.DLL version is 10.0.0.3802
The IndivBox.key version is 10.0.0.3930
After I play a song and close WM I get an error...
"Unhandled situation -9020 while Creating Windows Media instance." I tried this on a bunch of songs (all of which I own) but always get the same error. I downloaded a few samples from ezdrm.com but I always get the warning that the song requires a different private key.

Is there something I need to do in addition to running FairUse4WM? I was able to get this to work at work (don't remember the file versions - yes I downloaded songs at work) without a problem but can't get it to work at home. I've tried different songs but cannot get it to work. Please help...Thanks

linx05
4th October 2006, 04:31
Remember it's up on FileForum too: link (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/FairUse4WM/1156529648/1).

UsedUser
4th October 2006, 05:11
I'm kind of a newbee here but I was hoping someone could help me with this one.
I am using FairUse4WM v1.3 and amd getting an error when trying to remove the drm.
The DrmClien.DLL version is 10.0.0.3802
The IndivBox.key version is 10.0.0.3930
After I play a song and close WM I get an error...
"Unhandled situation -9020 while Creating Windows Media instance." I tried this on a bunch of songs (all of which I own) but always get the same error. I downloaded a few samples from ezdrm.com but I always get the warning that the song requires a different private key.

On one of my machines, I get the same errors with the same file versions you have.

Per this post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=880967#post880967), I was going to re-individualize to see if the keys could be extracted as secondary keys, but I haven't fully decided on it, as I can't re-download these particular files or get licenses for them again.

Do you have files you could re-download and re-acquire licenses for? If so, you could re-individualize and try FU4WM again. Back up your C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM folder before re-individualizing, in case you need to restore it later.

After you re-individualize, try to unDRM your files first, before acquiring any new licenses. If it doesn't work, then try acquiring new licenses. You could also try dropping the files into the list in FU4WM, right-clicking and getting the key info, and then using that with drm2wmv, but it won't work for me (no private key found for the files).

monkeygrudge
4th October 2006, 07:08
using ver. 1.3 to convert, i get following:

UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error writing 8948 bytes (155) at offset 1499136 in file ...

i tried new keys for files, no luck.

when i logged on to a certain service, it first updated wmp11.

ideas?

i tried to undrm files i had just dloaded.

odyssey
4th October 2006, 09:22
Does it support WinXP 64Bit ?
It gives this error: ibx components do not appear to be present
If not, can you add the support about the 64bit version?

x64 has excellent support for 32bit applications, and I'm running it without problems. Did you try this on a 32bit Windows, to see if it reproduces the same error?

I'm still in problems with a few of my audio files with 1.3: Properties of the files claim they are unrestricted and therefore not "one-play"-files. They however, work fine in WMP. It's only happening to a few files from the same album, and I have not had problems with files bought from other stores.

Error is "... does not appear to be licensed to you"

prostaferesi
4th October 2006, 13:25
Hi to all,

I just wanna try FU4WMver 1.3 but I can't find some files with drm. Please give me some link where I can download a drm file.
bye

odyssey
4th October 2006, 13:50
I just wanna try FU4WMver 1.3 but I can't find some files with drm. Please give me some link where I can download a drm file.
bye

That, however was mentioned in the very first post:

The program's functioning can be verified with "Demo" DRM files from fairuse4wm.com and ezdrm.com, as well as those from other Microsoft Solution partners.

endeffects
4th October 2006, 14:23
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prostaferesi
4th October 2006, 14:25
That, however was mentioned in the very first post:

Thanks so much

MINz
4th October 2006, 18:03
One of my clients PC had a motherboard with leaking capacitors. After about an hour his machine would start to flake out.

Over the past year he spent hundreds of dollars purchasing music via his online service. Since he used WMP10 I tried to backup his license and restore it on his new system....surprise it didn't work.

So thanks to viodentia amazing FairUseWM, my client was able to recover the music he paid for and save himself hundreds of dollars. What a classic example of this tool's ability to protect my clients fair use rights.

Thanks viodentia! Keep up the good work we are all behind you.

RichW
5th October 2006, 03:25
Thanks UsedUser for your reply -

I'm still a bit confused though. I was hoping I could just find the keys and convert the files but I guess nothing in life is easy. All I want to do is back up MY music in its original format in case my machine dies.

I believe I have the licenses on my machine since I can play the songs. I can't redownload them unless I contact them (Walmart.com). I was hoping to get this to work without having to download the songs again.

I really don't want to update my WMP just in case I can still remove the DRM with the version I have now. I individualized with the files from ezdrm.com, do I need to continue doing this each time?

I got a copy of drm2wmv but I'm not really sure how to use it. I looked at pages and pages in the forums and it's not really that straightforward.

I'm not sure I want to screw around with the files in my DRM folder because if I hose them up, I'm really screwed.

If you or anyone else has any other suggestions in solving this "Unhandled situation -9020 while Creating Windows Media instance." error, I would really appreciate it. Thanks

prostaferesi
5th October 2006, 12:10
Hello,

where can I find some informations about encoding process of Microsoft DRM. I just wanna know how it works.
bye

Yusaku
5th October 2006, 17:06
Hello,

where can I find some informations about encoding process of Microsoft DRM. I just wanna know how it works.
bye

You can start by reading this thread. Viodentia posted a link with very detailed description of the process...

resource
5th October 2006, 17:44
Because of it, myself and two other friends are paying members of Yahoo! Unlimited.

DRM makes online music very unappealing.
They don't get that.

Is it possible to have FairUse4WM remember the file path in its next version?

Hate to seem whiny, but that really is the only flaw with the program.

Thanks.

JasonFly
5th October 2006, 19:43
Thanks for this great tool which managed to remove drm from wmv files that I bought from two french vod websites(canalplay and tf1vision)
:thanks:

blutach
5th October 2006, 21:47
Hate to seem whiny, but that really is the only flaw with the program.I don't call that a flaw - it's merely an inconvenience which I am sure viodentia will take account of when he has time.

Regards

protectyoursources
6th October 2006, 02:28
Because of it, myself and two other friends are paying members of Yahoo! Unlimited.

DRM makes online music very unappealing.
They don't get that.

Is it possible to have FairUse4WM remember the file path in its next version?

Hate to seem whiny, but that really is the only flaw with the program.

Thanks.

Yahoo Music is one of the companies that does get it (http://ymusicblog.com/blog/2006/02/25/dave-goldberg-to-record-labels-no-drm-please/) and Ian Rogers one of the Main Product managers at Yahoo Music despises DRM big time (http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-FDuiCSg4eqinB8z.GGJ7TmAz?p=613) .

Yahoo Music released a Jessica Simpson song (http://ymusicblog.com/blog/2006/07/19/buy-a-customized-jessica-simpson-mp3-at-yahoo-music/) without DRM for for $1.98 that had your name embeded in it as a promotion and Jesse Macartney's recent album (http://ymusicblog.com/blog/2006/09/19/how-do-you-want-it/) was released as MP3 on Yahoo for $9.99 (Jesse Macartney is released on Hollywood records, a Disney company)

If you really hate DRM that much get a eMusic (http://www.emusic.com/) subscription that will get you 90 MP3s a month for $19.95 .
(eMusic is the second biggest online retailer of online Music after iTunes)

prostaferesi
6th October 2006, 10:57
You can start by reading this thread. Viodentia posted a link with very detailed description of the process...

Hello,
Thanks for the answer.
Do you mean this? :
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/solar/papers/CCS2003.pdf
posted by viodentia in the first page.

That pdf doesn't describe Microsoft drm encoding process.
Maybe you mean another post.
Please let me know, I can't find it.

Yusaku
6th October 2006, 11:54
Hello,
Thanks for the answer.
Do you mean this? :
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/solar/papers/CCS2003.pdf
posted by viodentia in the first page.
2 minutes of searching:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=114436

TheVMan
6th October 2006, 13:03
Because of it, myself and two other friends are paying members of Yahoo! Unlimited.

DRM makes online music very unappealing.
They don't get that.



Same here, every since this came out, I've had 3 of my friends sign up to Urge for the first time. And I already had a subscription and I still continue to keep it. I love to be able to download the songs I want that I paid for and keep them.

sonicbox
7th October 2006, 00:18
You shouldn't mention services by name here. Also, you *can* keep DRM'd music if you purchased the tracks instead of using the "subscription" model. This tool really wasn't designed to abuse the subscription model. It was designed to free your purchased content.

sonicbox
7th October 2006, 00:25
Since he used WMP10 I tried to backup his license and restore it on his new system....surprise it didn't work.That's only for DRM you created yourself. To restore purchased content DRM to other systems, you need to use the application/process provided by the vendor. Most services allow 5 PCs at one time, and will allow you to deauthorize old systems, too. Anyway, it's moot.

Yogi2k7
7th October 2006, 16:34
hi guys
Fair use 4 wm is a great tool to get rid of that <censored> DRM Crap so i done my part and add an another miurror for the 1.3 version

here the link
http://rapidshare.de/files/35219869/FU4WMver13.zip.html

greetings

yogi

raisincain
7th October 2006, 16:53
I don't know if this is unusual or not, but 1.1 still works on my computer. Should I just ride it out or upgrade? My service has done it's upgrades and my computer has been rebooted several times. But it still works.

supergirl260
8th October 2006, 17:42
I don't know if this is unusual or not, but 1.1 still works on my computer. Should I just ride it out or upgrade? My service has done it's upgrades and my computer has been rebooted several times. But it still works.

you you should update since you probly will have too sooner or later besides many things have changed in the new versions

garyhasbigfeet
8th October 2006, 23:31
I don't know if this is unusual or not, but 1.1 still works on my computer. Should I just ride it out or upgrade? My service has done it's upgrades and my computer has been rebooted several times. But it still works.
If it still works that means Microsoft hasn't hit you with the patch. You can use it or upgrade. It doesn't really matter until you install that patch.

You won't see an difference with the upgrade.

celicagt1993
10th October 2006, 17:33
here's an idea on how to improve this program. i download alot of music at a time, and it would be great to have the options to do this. Search your entire music library folder for protected WMA's, convert them all, and restore them back in the same folder and have the option to over write the original without the [nondrm] on the front.

JoernP
11th October 2006, 09:33
I'm still in problems with a few of my audio files with 1.3: Properties of the files claim they are unrestricted and therefore not "one-play"-files. They however, work fine in WMP. It's only happening to a few files from the same album, and I have not had problems with files bought from other stores.

Error is "... does not appear to be licensed to you"

It may not be of any help, but I'm having the same problems.
I bought and downloaded some albums, WMP picked up the licenses and is able to play all songs.
But FairUse4WM (tried v. 1.2 and 1.3) tells me, that some files from an album don't seem to be licensed to me, while it rips the DRM perfectly from other songs of the same album.
Also I can't use these files to recover keys ("No license available for specified file").

Instead I removed the DRM by burning a CD with the DRM'ed files and ripped them back.
(I know there are other tools to do this job, but I don't want to spend money on them because usually I don't buy music online.)

setarip_old
11th October 2006, 10:00
Instead I removed the DRM by burning a CD with the DRM'ed files and ripped them back.Forgive my ignorance but, it really can't be that simple, can it?

How does this simple procedure remove the DRM?

sonicbox
11th October 2006, 10:34
Forgive my ignorance but, it really can't be that simple, can it?

How does this simple procedure remove the DRM? Uh, yes it's that simple. All/most purchased (non-subscription) DRM audio content is burnable to CD. Once it's on an Audio CD, there is no copy protection.

JoernP
11th October 2006, 14:09
Forgive my ignorance but, it really can't be that simple, can it?

How does this simple procedure remove the DRM?

Well, there are some requirements and conditions that have to be met.
First of all it only works with applications that can handle DRM (like Windows Media Player & Napster). A normal CD burning program will not work.
And then the license has to allow you to burn a CD from the file. There is a field in the license header which can forbid it (subscription services are using this feature).

I think this option has been implemented to allow people to listen to their (bought and legal) music on "normal" CD-players (which of course don't know anything about DRM).
Once you have a "normal" CD it's no problem to rip it to any (unprotected) format you like.

protectyoursources
11th October 2006, 15:19
It may not be of any help, but I'm having the same problems.
I bought and downloaded some albums, WMP picked up the licenses and is able to play all songs.
But FairUse4WM (tried v. 1.2 and 1.3) tells me, that some files from an album don't seem to be licensed to me, while it rips the DRM perfectly from other songs of the same album.
Also I can't use these files to recover keys ("No license available for specified file").

Instead I removed the DRM by burning a CD with the DRM'ed files and ripped them back.
(I know there are other tools to do this job, but I don't want to spend money on them because usually I don't buy music online.)
:search:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=881126#post881126

Qwertie
11th October 2006, 20:09
I can't get past the opening screen (that says "This program will extract the personally identifiable information..."). I click "Recover Keys" which produces the error "IBX components do not appear to be present". Upon clicking OK, the following message appears:

'Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys

FairUse4WM will use a WM-installed DLL to determine system specific information.

"DrmClien.DLL" has version 9.0.0.3287'

It doesn't matter whether I push OK, Cancel or Skip because nothing happens. In any case I stay on the program's opening screen.

By the way, this is on Windows 2000 SP4, and I have WMA tracks bought from PureTracks.

mayang
11th October 2006, 21:52
I can't get past the opening screen (that says "This program will extract the personally identifiable information..."). I click "Recover Keys" which produces the error "IBX components do not appear to be present".

You need to apply individualization first. Or another word, apply security upgrade to enable playing DRM v2 protected content. Read from previous post you will understand how to apply it. Download any sample drm v2 media from ezdrm.com or another place. Play the file then WMP will ask you to apply security upgrade, click ok and then IBX will be downloaded to your computer. Then it will present in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM...

HostFat
11th October 2006, 23:53
It doesn't work with my WinXP 64Bit.
There must be a problem / bug ...

protectyoursources
12th October 2006, 03:57
You can force Individualization at this Microsoft Site

http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp

You Must use IE for the site to work .

Blind Melon
12th October 2006, 04:55
Ok... FairUse4WM v. 1.3 is not working for me. I get this error...

D:\Documents and Settings\Fej\My Documents\My Music\Alice in Chains\Unplugged\07 - Rooster.wma requires a different private key.


I tried that individualize link thing, but it wouldn't upgrade my security, so I'm just really confused as to why it doesn't work because one day, it just stopped all of a sudden.

Deihmos
12th October 2006, 05:10
Is this program still working? I tried it before and it worked but now it says there is no license.

Just got 1.3 and it freezes when I try to extract keys. Oh well i will just sign back up for napster to go.

JoernP
12th October 2006, 09:14
:search:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=881126#post881126
Thank you for trying to help, but just like in odysseys case I'm not using one-play licenses.

protectyoursources
12th October 2006, 13:59
Thank you for trying to help, but just like in odysseys case I'm not using one-play licenses.

Viadentia just pointed out one case where you might encounter that error ,There are other cases like a invalid license that will provide the same error .

protectyoursources
12th October 2006, 14:00
Ok... FairUse4WM v. 1.3 is not working for me. I get this error...

D:\Documents and Settings\Fej\My Documents\My Music\Alice in Chains\Unplugged\07 - Rooster.wma requires a different private key.


I tried that individualize link thing, but it wouldn't upgrade my security, so I'm just really confused as to why it doesn't work because one day, it just stopped all of a sudden.

Try the back button and extract the key many pieces of content can have different keys ...

Redmondman
12th October 2006, 17:33
Most of my files work great. I have this one stubborn file (purchased track, have the license, FU4WM converts successfully), but when I try to play it, WMP pops up the missing license error (C00D1356). I confirmed with a metadata editor that "Is_Protected" is false.

Other interesting notes: WMVCOPY (from the SDK) works, but also results in a files that pops C00D1356. However, DSCOPY also works and results in a playable file.

Which leads me to suspect the resulting metadata (the output of DSCOPY has the bare minimum metadata). If considered interesting, I can post the metadata here.

Blind Melon
12th October 2006, 18:50
Try the back button and extract the key many pieces of content can have different keys ...

SO THATS WHAT I DO WITH THE BACK BUTTON AND RECOVER KEYS... Genius. Thank you so much... now if only I can get iPodRip to work. Haha. Also, one last question... is there a way I can just get rid of the "No-DRM" that appears before every file other than having to go in each file and deleting it from the file name?

valiant2
12th October 2006, 19:57
Here in the UK, Sky Broadband (movie downloads) pulled their service a few weeks back after the first version of FairUseWM came out, stating that they had to "make an essential update" to the "security system". Google cache here:

http://tinyurl.com/y23vah

Today the service seems to have been re-instated:

http://www.skymovies.com/skybybroadband/home/0,,,00.html

Has something changed? Has Microsoft brought out another patch that I've missed? Or maybe they've finally decided that DRM isn't worth the hassle?

Danj
12th October 2006, 23:52
Here in the UK, Sky Broadband (movie downloads) pulled their service a few weeks back after the first version of FairUseWM came out, stating that they had to "make an essential update" to the "security system". Google cache here:

http://tinyurl.com/y23vah

Today the service seems to have been re-instated:

http://www.skymovies.com/skybybroadband/home/0,,,00.html

Has something changed? Has Microsoft brought out another patch that I've missed? Or maybe they've finally decided that DRM isn't worth the hassle?

Well, [deleted]. I can only assume that either they've decided they don't care any more, or they thought that 30 days would be a long enough period to allow for Microsoft to fix the issue.

blutach
13th October 2006, 00:38
@Danj - please refer to rule 6.

Regards

zhuwg
13th October 2006, 11:22
Thanks ang good job

TheVMan
13th October 2006, 13:08
... Also, one last question... is there a way I can just get rid of the "No-DRM" that appears before every file other than having to go in each file and deleting it from the file name?...

That's my favorite part! :) Now I can easily tell my DRM'd from my non-DRM'd files. I love the [NoDRM].

unknownsoldierX
13th October 2006, 18:29
Is there a way to unDRM WMV files without having to play each one first? I load a dozen files that all share the same license into FU4WM and I get warnings for the ones I haven't played yet.

Warnings like

1.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you.
6.wmv does not have a recognizable DRM header.

Blind Melon
13th October 2006, 20:51
That's my favorite part! :) Now I can easily tell my DRM'd from my non-DRM'd files. I love the [NoDRM].

I like to have my file names, what they're named... like, track 1 name, not having a NO-DRM in front of it... that really annoys me. But if there's no fix, that's all cool-in-the-gang.

Danj
13th October 2006, 20:58
I like to have my file names, what they're named... like, track 1 name, not having a NO-DRM in front of it... that really annoys me. But if there's no fix, that's all cool-in-the-gang.

You could always use one of the many batch renaming tools available on the internet to fix up the filenames? Besides, it seems like a good thing that the utility doesn't overwrite the original file, in case something goes wrong.

Danj
13th October 2006, 21:01
Is there a way to unDRM WMV files without having to play each one first? I load a dozen files that all share the same license into FU4WM and I get warnings for the ones I haven't played yet.

Warnings like

1.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you.
6.wmv does not have a recognizable DRM header.

If the vendor you bought the files off didn't use the "predelivery" license method, and you haven't played the files yet, then you won't have gotten a license for them. You don't have to play them all the way through, you just have to load them up and make sure WMP acquires the license. Assuming you have WMV files associated to WMP, you could just multiple select them in Explorer, hit Enter, then press the Next Track button after WMP acquires each license and starts to play.

Deihmos
14th October 2006, 00:19
If the vendor you bought the files off didn't use the "predelivery" license method, and you haven't played the files yet, then you won't have gotten a license for them. You don't have to play them all the way through, you just have to load them up and make sure WMP acquires the license. Assuming you have WMV files associated to WMP, you could just multiple select them in Explorer, hit Enter, then press the Next Track button after WMP acquires each license and starts to play.

Does Fairuse still work with napster tracks? Doesn't seem that it does.

odyssey
14th October 2006, 00:30
First of all it only works with applications that can handle DRM (like Windows Media Player & Napster). A normal CD burning program will not work.Nero works too! (However, I like the concept of having the original source files, and are smaller than storing lossless decompressed)

Blind Melon
14th October 2006, 06:35
You could always use one of the many batch renaming tools available on the internet to fix up the filenames? Besides, it seems like a good thing that the utility doesn't overwrite the original file, in case something goes wrong.

Oh no, not overwriting the file, just having the no-drm show up, it's just a little nit-picking from me, sorry. Thanks to whoever made this program though!

n3ro
15th October 2006, 00:29
Not sure what my problem could be. I've gone to the site below...

http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp

Attempted to play the video i'm trying to undrm & i get high cpu usage, see pic below.

http://tinyurl.com/yj76gf

Attempted to play a video from ezdrm.com but when media player 9.00.00.2980 loads i get the same result as above.

Specs:
WinXP SP1
1gb DDR
Athlon Xp 2200(1.8GHz)

Under C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM

IndivBox.key version 10.0.0.3646

Danj
15th October 2006, 10:29
Not sure what my problem could be. I've gone to the site below...

http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp

Attempted to play the video i'm trying to undrm & i get high cpu usage, see pic below.

http://tinyurl.com/yj76gf

Attempted to play a video from ezdrm.com but when media player 9.00.00.2980 loads i get the same result as above.

Specs:
WinXP SP1
1gb DDR
Athlon Xp 2200(1.8GHz)

Under C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM

IndivBox.key version 10.0.0.3646

I'm just guessing here but maybe you need to update your Windows Media Player to version 10? You can still get it from Microsoft's web site here (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/A/12A31F29-2FA9-4F50-B95D-E45EF7013F87/MP10Setup.exe) (right click and save as). Also, I don't know if you've heard, but Microsoft have ended support for Windows XP SP1, so unless you update to SP2 soon, you won't be able to get Windows Updates any more.

unknownsoldierX
15th October 2006, 17:37
@n3ero

I have WMP10 with all Windows updates installed (v10.0.0.4036) and FU4WM is working fine. You should update to SP2 and get the latest version of WMP10.

Redmondman
15th October 2006, 20:01
Oh no, not overwriting the file, just having the no-drm show up, it's just a little nit-picking from me, sorry. Thanks to whoever made this program though!

Just modify the following shell script to suit your needs:

var fso;

fso = new ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject");
var folder = fso.GetFolder(".");

for (files = new Enumerator(folder.files); !files.atEnd(); files.moveNext())
{
var file = files.item();
if (file.name.toLowerCase().substring(0,7) == "[nodrm]")
{
fso.MoveFile(file.name, file.name.substring(8));
}
}

n3ro
16th October 2006, 00:26
@Danj & unknownsoldierX thanks for reply & help.

I think it's working now (video from ezdrm plays ok); Turned out to be my IE settings, had to enable a few things that made me nervous when using IE (activex, scripting), using firefox & opera now so i guess it's fine.

now if i could find a clean copy of mayang tool, so far my antivirus has gone nuts...

Blind Melon
17th October 2006, 06:44
Just modify the following shell script to suit your needs:

var fso;

fso = new ActiveXObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject");
var folder = fso.GetFolder(".");

for (files = new Enumerator(folder.files); !files.atEnd(); files.moveNext())
{
var file = files.item();
if (file.name.toLowerCase().substring(0,7) == "[nodrm]")
{
fso.MoveFile(file.name, file.name.substring(8));
}
}

Sorry, I'm only in beginning C++ class as of right now, but how would I edit the .exe?

mayang
17th October 2006, 06:56
Downlaoad this patch to remove No-DRM string for result file.
File to patch : FairUse4WM.exe
After you patched FairUse4WM, make sure when you converting your file, don't select 'Use Same Directory' to avoid any problem owerwriting the file while converting.

No more [No-DRM] string with decrypted files.

http://s22.quicksharing.com/v/1223018/Patch2remove.No_DRM.string.exe.html

Redmondman
17th October 2006, 07:24
Sorry, I'm only in beginning C++ class as of right now, but how would I edit the .exe?

Sorry, you don't edit the .EXE. Rather, you put the code I posted in a file called 'rename.js' and run 'rename.js' at the command line in the directory that has your files. Voila.

buggs1a
17th October 2006, 11:33
mayang
huh? There's no file to download.

markloveshawaii
18th October 2006, 22:02
Downlaoad this patch to remove No-DRM string for result file.
File to patch : FairUse4WM.exe
After you patched FairUse4WM, make sure when you converting your file, don't select 'Use Same Directory' to avoid any problem owerwriting the file while converting.

No more [No-DRM] string with decrypted files.

Quote:
http://s22.quicksharing.com/v/122301...tring.exe.html

THIS FILE HAS A VIRUS ATTACHED TO IT

Bloodhound W.32.1

hanugro
19th October 2006, 01:27
You need to apply individualization first. Or another word, apply security upgrade to enable playing DRM v2 protected content. Read from previous post you will understand how to apply it. Download any sample drm v2 media from ezdrm.com or another place. Play the file then WMP will ask you to apply security upgrade, click ok and then IBX will be downloaded to your computer. Then it will present in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM...

This is what bugging me. I can unDRM after I apply security upgrade (before FairUse4WM will complaint about IBX not available) but I am unable to find DRM folders in my systems. I searched it and found no match. I have turn on hidden folder and file but also can not find it (and indivbox.key). However FairUse4WM do find the IBX and IndivBox.key, weird. I just wondering where my system keeps all DRM licence file?

mayang
19th October 2006, 02:36
THIS FILE HAS A VIRUS ATTACHED TO IT
Bloodhound W.32.1

No virus attached to the file.
Its just a byte patcher packed with UPX.
Some antivirus detected packed PE or EXE and a packer itself as a virus because it change some signature in PE header.

Fairuse4WM is packed with UPX, the patcher i made is inline patcher to patch FairUse4WM(UPX packed) and the patcher itself is packed with UPX, not any other special packer.

The patcher size is only 8kb.

I got nothing by spreading any virus or trojan.
I just wanna to help some people here.

Hope any expert can explain about this.

Browse the file for online scan
Kaspersky (http://www.kaspersky.com/scanforvirus)
Avast (http://onlinescan.avast.com/)
BitDefender (http://www.alken.nl/scan/Msie/index.html)
DrWeb (http://www.drweb-online.com/en/virustest.html)

and others online virus scanner.

mayang
19th October 2006, 02:42
However FairUse4WM do find the IBX and IndivBox.key, weird. I just wondering where my system keeps all DRM licence file?

At windows explorer select:
Tools --> Folder options --> View
- select show hidden files and folders
- untick(deselect) Hide protected operating system files

Then check
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM

IndivBox.key and other components will be there.

Blind Melon
19th October 2006, 06:13
Sorry, you don't edit the .EXE. Rather, you put the code I posted in a file called 'rename.js' and run 'rename.js' at the command line in the directory that has your files. Voila.

Hey, that's effing awesome. Thank you so much!

bnick007
19th October 2006, 13:39
Does anyone have this working in Vista RC2..??

josh2
19th October 2006, 13:41
I can attest to there being no virus in mayang's file.

And yes, UPX packed executables are often false identified as having viruses.. but usually only by crappy AVs. What anti-virus are you using?

Josh

hanugro
19th October 2006, 16:15
At windows explorer select:
Tools --> Folder options --> View
- select show hidden files and folders
- untick(deselect) Hide protected operating system files

Then check
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM

IndivBox.key and other components will be there.

Thanks, The hide protected OS file do the tricks! This FairUSe4WM is a nice apps to have.

Blind Melon
19th October 2006, 20:22
It detected a virus on my AV, which is Norton 03... I just went through safe mode and deleted FairUse, the download, and some .bak file that was created?

protectyoursources
19th October 2006, 21:48
It detected a virus on my AV, which is Norton 03... I just went through safe mode and deleted FairUse, the download, and some .bak file that was created?

Norton is a Virus .....:devil:

the .bak file is a backup of your DRM licences .

josh2
19th October 2006, 22:14
Yeah, Norton is a piece of crap. You may have downloaded a fake file, but I'm positive there is no virus in either FairUse4WM or the patch mayang posted.

Josh

Yogi2k7
20th October 2006, 12:10
works great here still on windows2003 server x64 and on windows xppro x32 i tested the programm under the windows vista Beta and works there too!

greetings yogi2k7:readguid:

sjchmura
21st October 2006, 00:35
So this should allow de-crypting of yahoo purchased music - correct? They are still using MS DRM.

SWEEP001
21st October 2006, 03:50
I'd like your opinion everyone.
I use a subscription service from one of the major providers. I know it is illegal to convert a subscription file using this program, but, if I have the album (analog Vinyl) do you think it is a "fair" use of this program?

blutach
21st October 2006, 04:14
Having the album on vinyl and breaching your licence regarding digital media are two different things. I would be reasonably certain you have no fair use rights due to owning the vinyl pressing. To get a better opinion, ask an Intellectual Property lawyer.

Regards

Yogi2k7
22nd October 2006, 02:19
i think some kind of people gives a Fu** about the law and reconverting drm-protected files

:D :D

muzicmaken
22nd October 2006, 02:35
I bough some music from Yahoo music and it wouldn't un-drm them said something about a different key

Digga
22nd October 2006, 17:54
i think some kind of people gives a Fu** about the law and reconverting drm-protected files
:D :Dand they are welcome to do so but not here at Doom9.

josh2
22nd October 2006, 19:01
I bough some music from Yahoo music and it wouldn't un-drm them said something about a different key

Are you using the latest version? (1.3)

Try hitting the back button and recovering keys again.

bks
23rd October 2006, 05:27
I'm having problems with unDRM my files. The program works and produces a file, but I when I play it I get a tiny bit of garbled video(colored blocks at top of frame) and the audio is off for a minute or so. The video clears after the first 30 seconds and the audio corrects later about 1 or 2 minutes later. What's happened? Is there something I can do to fix this? BTW, I've already retried again after deleting the blackbox-keys.txt and it doesn't correct the problem. Any help here?

I'm having the same problem (sort of) as this guy. The program used to work fine, produces an unDRMed file and the file plays well. But it just started creating files (same kind of files) that when played, just shows blocks (http://i13.tinypic.com/2a0ap95.jpg) and audio's just random weird sounds. Any help would be appreciated.

Danj
23rd October 2006, 15:36
Are you using the latest version? (1.3)

Try hitting the back button and recovering keys again.

Also if that does not help you could try deleting blackbox-keys.txt from your My Documents folder and then recovering the keys.

josh2
23rd October 2006, 20:00
Also if that does not help you could try deleting blackbox-keys.txt from your My Documents folder and then recovering the keys.

Yeah, I forgot about this. Be sure to try that as well. I had the messed up video/audio problem as well and it was fixed by deleting and recovering the keys.

Blind Melon
23rd October 2006, 23:32
Final issue, I swear. Is there a way to keep your albums in that same folder so when it nodrms the files, it essentially creates another folder in the place you're storing the songs, but respective to each folder they come in?

Example:

Two albums and I want to undrm the songs in each, let's label album 1 and album 2.

Album 1 has 15 songs
Album 2 has 4 songs

You add album 1 & 2 to Fairuse and you undrm the files...
you look in the folder you told it to save and should see album 1 (folder) and album 2 (folder) then inside those, 15 songs and 4 songs respectively. What I'm trying to get at is... I don't like how it just shows the songs, I'd like to have all the folders there too so I don't have to sift through each song and put it in their right folders.

iure
24th October 2006, 10:04
may I elaborate on the so-called "virus threat" bloodhound detected by norton's.Neither fairuse file or nodrm tag patch file are viri (plural of virus-latin grammar).The patching procedure is recognised by Norton as virus like activity and subsequently can quarantine the patched Fairuse file.
Solution:- disable nortons av when patching (but it's ok to enable after) and when stripping your wmv files of their licenses.Really no probs.
Cheers all and a BIG thanks to Mayang

Sharktooth
24th October 2006, 20:23
i have a better solution: dont waste money on Norton AV...
there are a LOT of free AVs that are even better than norton:
http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=82&mnu=82

As you can see Norton is payware and isnt even a good antivirus...

BitDefender freeware version 8.0.202 - 95.57%
Avast freeware version 4.7.871 - 87.46%
AVG freeware version 7.1.405 - 82.82%

Norton Professional 2006 - 83.18%

Yogi2k7
25th October 2006, 15:39
norton AV is very shitty like a blind guardian :-)

garyhasbigfeet
26th October 2006, 05:48
i have a better solution: dont waste money on Norton AV...
there are a LOT of free AVs that are even better than norton:
http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/default.asp?id=82&mnu=82

As you can see Norton is payware and isnt even a good antivirus...

BitDefender freeware version 8.0.202 - 95.57%
Avast freeware version 4.7.871 - 87.46%
AVG freeware version 7.1.405 - 82.82%

Norton Professional 2006 - 83.18%
Most of the "fantastic freebies" are crap. They'll false-positive like a maniac and some will even ruin your operating system.

If you're truely sick of Norton (Symantec now) then get rid of the home edition and go with Corporate. It'll catch the bugs but doesn't suck all your resources.

Sharktooth
26th October 2006, 13:58
Go to the link i posted and read again.
Most of the "freebies" are identical to commercial versions, and yes, Norton Corporate still sucks.
False positives are an exception and even the best antivirus ever (kaspersky) can fail sometimes.

garyhasbigfeet
26th October 2006, 18:08
Go to the link i posted and read again.
Most of the "freebies" are identical to commercial versions, and yes, Norton Corporate still sucks.
False positives are an exception and even the best antivirus ever (kaspersky) can fail sometimes.
Not to spur the debate further, but your blatantly false claim that free A/V scanners are identical to commercial versions is laughable at best. There are several major differences in retail vs. free A/V software, not the least of which is large file manipulation. Try scanning a large rar/zip file with Norton Corporate then use a freebie. Which one finishes first?
;)

Digga
26th October 2006, 19:55
let's concentrate on decrypting issues, shall we? ;)

blutach
26th October 2006, 22:28
My thoughts exactly Digga. Discussions on AV progs and other software can be had in General Discussions.

Regards

rakesh
27th October 2006, 18:26
Hi Guys,I am reading all ur replies from the last 1 month, and I am amazed to see that no one has ever mentioned Viodentia in his post. Where is the great author of the program for the last one month? We never saw him on board after his last post on 30th September and now its the end of october. What has happened to him? Has Microsoft finaly got him, or he is still working on some new version? Kindly take some time out of ur dumb talks and try to find out where he is and what is he doing for us. He is a great guy and a great help for all of us, and dear viodentia, if you read this, plz atleast take some time from your busy schedule and life to reply us and tell us about ur health and the ongoing process on the greatest software. We all pray for ur safety and health. Take Care

garyhasbigfeet
27th October 2006, 19:46
I don't think Vio's absence is such a big deal simply because his last version works fantastically. :shrug:

He may be keeping a low profile. More on topic, I just started Fair4Use on another fantastic Amazon movie. :)

n3ro
27th October 2006, 22:52
It's not just a norton thing, my AV had a fit when trying to install undrm 2.0 (claimed it found some trojan) , but i scanned it w/ trojanhunter & it was fine...


Anyways just wanted to know if the image below is a web server error or a undrm error. thanks.

http://img15.imgspot.com/?u=/u/06/299/17/dfgo1161985596.JPG

setarip_old
28th October 2006, 00:04
What's "an Amazon movie"?

Danj
28th October 2006, 00:52
Anyways just wanted to know if the image below is a web server error or a undrm error. thanks.

http://img15.imgspot.com/?u=/u/06/299/17/dfgo1161985596.JPG

Looks like a web server error, but it sure is a weird one. Still, it says the server is running IIS, so I guess it's not that surprising. Check with your music/video provider that they are still issuing licenses for purchased content, if they have changed their configuration you might need to redownload or something.

Danj
28th October 2006, 00:59
Thanks for Rjamorim for graciously hosting in Brazil.
http://pessoal.onda.com.br/rjamorim/FU4WMver13.zip

Btw, does anyone know what (if anything) happened to rjamorim and his site in Brazil?

Digga
28th October 2006, 11:40
Btw, does anyone know what (if anything) happened to rjamorim and his site in Brazil?...sadly the link didn't hold long so I guess that he either gave in to legal threats (unlikely :) ) or, more likely, his ISP pulled the file or his account.
he was not active in the forums for a while though AFAIK. he may be just busy, on vacation or whatever he decides to do.
let's hope the best for him and all people involved :)

rjamorim
28th October 2006, 18:41
...sadly the link didn't hold long so I guess that he either gave in to legal threats (unlikely :) ) or, more likely, his ISP pulled the file or his account.

Second choice (of course). My ISP sucks, I screamed a lot at them, but to no avail. Seems they would rather lose a customer than ignore empty legal threats :B

he was not active in the forums for a while though AFAIK. he may be just busy, on vacation or whatever he decides to do.

Busy with school.

let's hope the best for him and all people involved :)

Thanks :)

blutach
29th October 2006, 00:42
Good to see you rjamorim and hope to see the files re-hosted by you soon.

Regards

zhuwg
29th October 2006, 11:04
Thanks

Wilbert
29th October 2006, 21:08
Well, i got it finally working on my W2K using WMP9 and IndivBox.key = 10.0.0.3930!!! I used FairUse4WM to get the sid/kid keys and used drm2wmv_e.exe to remove the drm (FairUse4WM didn't work for me).

AnonymousCitizen
30th October 2006, 17:58
This is a bit off topic, but it's bugging me. Did Microsoft purposely destroy (or allow to be destroyed) this version of DRM in favor of whatever is planned for Zune? Without destroying the current DRM, wouldn't they be almost forced by hardware and music vendors to continue to support it Zune? Now that is utterly defeated, who would care?

unknownsoldierX
30th October 2006, 23:22
WMP11 is out now. I'd like to install it but I don't want to lose my ability to unDRM. What the word on FU4WM and WMP11?

ron spencer
31st October 2006, 02:29
why use V11?

unknownsoldierX
31st October 2006, 03:04
why use V11?

11 is more streamlined. I use WMP to catalog my media and I like the features in v11 better.

unknownsoldierX
31st October 2006, 03:56
I answered my own question. I went ahead and installed WMP11 and FU4WM no longer works. When I click on the Recover Keys button, I receive the error: "IBX Version 11.0.5741.6340 isn't supported yet."

Oh well. I don't have any media to unDRM at the moment. I hope newer versions of drm2wmv and FU4WM are not too far off.

josh2
31st October 2006, 04:01
Extracting keys don't work, but for some reason I can un-DRM files still. With WMP11. It'd be nice to see an update though.

unknownsoldierX
31st October 2006, 04:05
When I try to unDRM a file, it pops up with a warning.

"d:\file.wmv requires a different private key."

The file unDRMed fine with WMP10. The key the file needs should be unchanged from before.

UserMan
31st October 2006, 18:29
I wrote a small C# program in VS2005 that searches your music directory for any proteced WMV files. It will then run those files against the FairUse application to remove the DRM.

After that it renames the music files to their original name. (i.e. Removes the '[NoDRM]-' tag)

It is very useful if you have your protected/non-protected content in the same folders, or if you have a lot of songs that you have PURCHASED and want to remove the DRM quickly. It successfully ran on my computer, but I don't have a lot of Play4Sure songs.

You can download the C# code here
http://s12.quicksharing.com/v/5376103/WMFMetadataReader.Source.zip.html

or the program here
http://s12.quicksharing.com/v/7227149/FAIRUSE_BATCH_APP.zip.html

I do not warrant or guarantee this program, it is free with no restrictions, create commons, etc.

You must have Windows Media Player installed on your computer, and the FAIRUSE4WM program (any version) for this to work.

This program is for educational purposes only and in no way encourages you to do anything illegal, nor download any illegal programs.

MINz
2nd November 2006, 22:53
I answered my own question. I went ahead and installed WMP11 and FU4WM no longer works. When I click on the Recover Keys button, I receive the error: "IBX Version 11.0.5741.6340 isn't supported yet."

I'm having the same issue after I installed WMP11 final.

buggs1a
2nd November 2006, 23:45
looks like Viodentia is gone for good.

warload01
3rd November 2006, 03:57
I downloaded a video with DRM form a japanese website and trying to use FairUse4WM to find out the key. However, it said 'Windows Error 80030002 while finding KID in V9store'
How can i unDRM that movie?

When i try to play that video, the following image is appeared:
http://flypicture.com/display/MTk0Ng==

here is the dl link of that movie
mms://shared-st.primestage.net/bitway/mob/bird/bird_02.wmv

Blind Melon
3rd November 2006, 05:55
I wrote a small C# program in VS2005 that searches your music directory for any proteced WMV files. It will then run those files against the FairUse application to remove the DRM.

After that it renames the music files to their original name. (i.e. Removes the '[NoDRM]-' tag)

It is very useful if you have your protected/non-protected content in the same folders, or if you have a lot of songs that you have PURCHASED and want to remove the DRM quickly. It successfully ran on my computer, but I don't have a lot of Play4Sure songs.

You can download the C# code here
http://s12.quicksharing.com/v/5376103/WMFMetadataReader.Source.zip.html

or the program here
http://s12.quicksharing.com/v/7227149/FAIRUSE_BATCH_APP.zip.html

I do not warrant or guarantee this program, it is free with no restrictions, create commons, etc.

You must have Windows Media Player installed on your computer, and the FAIRUSE4WM program (any version) for this to work.

This program is for educational purposes only and in no way encourages you to do anything illegal, nor download any illegal programs.



:thanks: Rockin' program.

protectyoursources
4th November 2006, 02:56
Looks like a new IBX ....

"IBX Version 11.0.5741.6340 isn't supported yet"

Looks like it comes with WMP 11 Final ,

Danj
4th November 2006, 09:34
Looks like a new IBX ....

"IBX Version 11.0.5741.6340 isn't supported yet"

Looks like it comes with WMP 11 Final

It does kind of seem that way doesn't it. Looks like the best advice for people is, don't install Windows Media Player 11 final if you want to continue removing DRM from your files. Don't let Microsoft trick you with their promises of streaming media to the Xbox 360, I've heard a lot of people can't get it to work anyway.

Deihmos
4th November 2006, 18:40
Sooner or later M$ will make it a requirement to have WM 11 to use DRM. I am certain of that. It works with the beta version but did not work with beta 2 or the final. Does not matter to me though since i will keep my napster-to-go subscription.

rdn98
4th November 2006, 21:07
help I get that same error with the ibx with wmp11 final

Anybody know where I can get the earlier beta versions?
*************
Nevermind, I found the wmp11 beta 1. Anyway, before I used to use the URGE music service in conjunction with fairuse4wm, and the songs I got was fine.

I guess now when I try to use URGE on beta1, I can't download any music from URGE. I am forced to upgrade to v11 final. When I do that, any songs I download, I cannot seem to strip off the drm with fairuse4wm because I get an error about "Unhandled exception -9000" something. Plus, version 1.3 gives me error about the IBX version.

Similiarly, v1.1 fairuse4wm doesn't work on stripping the drm either.

If anybody can show me how to strip the drm from wmp11 final with the urge music service, I'd greatly appreciate it.

mwsmith824
6th November 2006, 04:31
looks like Viodentia is gone for good.

Probably not gone for good, but he's proven he can do it. They patched around it, he did it again. I doubt there's any intellectual challenge left to continuing the cat and mouse game. Especially since they're trying to make him the mouse in the legal system. Why bother with the headaches.

Unfortunately it means MP11 is unusable if you want to keep exercising your fair use rights until someone else comes along and does it again.

buggs1a
6th November 2006, 06:07
Gone for good to me says no updates and no more posting on this site. he's been gone over a month so I'm thinking he won't be back, :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

rdn98
7th November 2006, 03:25
or maybe he is working on new model?

buggs1a
7th November 2006, 11:55
rdn98, haha, i doubt that!!

rdn98
7th November 2006, 18:37
You never know, but if MS and the rest of the corporate world is after me for cracking DRM, then I'd probably run and hide too. :)

Deihmos
7th November 2006, 20:24
I would do the same plus i think it was some kind of inside job because he did it too easily. Why is it called fairuse? A program that allows you to download 2 million tracks without paying a cent cannot be considered fairuse.

setarip_old
7th November 2006, 23:58
@Deihmos

Hi!

It sounds like you've misunderstood the stated purpose of the program...

Deihmos
8th November 2006, 05:51
@Deihmos

Hi!

It sounds like you've misunderstood the stated purpose of the program...


And what might be the stated purpose be really? You really don't think the masses will use it for the 'stated' purpose do you

Why do you think a lawsuit was issued? this is bigger than P2P applications.

blutach
8th November 2006, 06:07
Let's keep on topic here please people.

Regards

Danj
8th November 2006, 10:01
And what might be the stated purpose be really? You really don't think the masses will use it for the 'stated' purpose do you

I think that if viodentia could have restricted FairUse4WM from working on subscription/rental files he probably would have. I imagine the license expiry and the DRM are tied up together, in much the same way that the copy protection and region protection are on a PS2, so you have to install a mod chip if you want to play imported original discs, even if you're not interested in piracy.

monkey boy
9th November 2006, 04:20
I have made a determination to the effect that existing logic embedded inside fairuse4wm suffices for the individualized components contained within microsoft's latest release of wmp11.

While I disavow all authorship claims to the original code; please allow my presentation of a executable patch to fairuse4wm enabling this support

http://storeandserve.com/download/573983/fu4wm13fix.zip.html
http://maxshare.4000webs.com/download.php?file=a2ca51a601f525c0617a9bce4867c022
http://www.ex0.biz/uploads/1106/1163043340.zip
51cceb20d7d600c6e1c982f86d968061 *fu4wm13fix.exe

fairuse4wm has been corrupted by reversing upx compression and redacting these locations, provided by me as hexa offset, starting value and finalized result
0004238D: 75 90
0004238E: 08 90
00042395: 74 EB
00042909: 04 24
00085444: 00 66
00085446: 00 69
00085448: 00 78

trence
10th November 2006, 01:56
Anyone try this yet?

josh2
10th November 2006, 02:42
monkey boy, thanks a TON. Works flawlessly.

picree
10th November 2006, 03:44
Doesn't work for anyone who still has WMP 10.......maybe it wasn't supposed to....monkey boy is WAYY over my head....:stupid:

josh2
10th November 2006, 05:21
Yeah, I don't think it was supposed to. But it works here with WMP11 final, while fu4wm 1.3 regular didn't. (Decoding works in both, but recovering keys only in the 1.3fix)

picree
11th November 2006, 00:10
So does FU4WM abandon WMP10? I wasn't upgrading WMP because I didn't want the hassles...should I go to WMP11? Are there any additional DRM restrictions?

protectyoursources
11th November 2006, 03:24
The AES key displayed in new key extraction
For the v11 individualization, v2ksndv.bla (or v2ks###.bla) is now an XML file. There are two tags of particular interest, the first 40 bytes of "c:PKCert" is the public key for ECC encryption and the "Keys" which stores all the secondary keys.

Each time you re-individualize, the DLL sends "escrowed" key information to Microsoft's servers which decrypts it and re-encrypts it inside this secondary key table. These are all the keys for previous individualizations.

The <Keys> tag is encrypted with AES in Counter mode using the displayed key. To decrypt, create a 16-byte BIG-ENDIAN counter (that is, 16 bytes of 0, next would be 15-bytes of 0's and one 1 byte, and so forth). Encrypt that with the AES key. XOR the output with the next 16-bytes from the tag.

Once decrypted, the Keys tag holds a XML document which in turn has both the old ECC keys (which v1.3 happily extracts for you), and some RSA keys - the RSA keys are apparently new for v11, and I don't know what they're for.

By the way, if one looks at the individualization process in Wireshark, it's conceivable that future individualizations can be handled with the assistence of Microsoft's own servers.

Looks like the RSA keys are whats different in WMP11 and why a patch was needed

picree
11th November 2006, 05:43
OK, but I don't think I'm alone in saying that FU4WM is no longer able to clean WMP10 DRM material....

Is there a new step I'm missing when using FU4WM with WMP10? I keep getting the "requires a different key" message.:(

If nobody want's to post or discuss the solution here I understand. I have other more direct ways to remove DRM from the music I own. I just find this a novelty.

Don't ask me to explain please...:search:

mmtux
11th November 2006, 11:02
Just use FairUse4WM 1.3 without the fix. its working with WMP10 flawlessly.

FaireUse4WM 1.3 Fix is working with my WMP11 without any problems :) nice work!

picree
11th November 2006, 12:55
We'll...not for me. As I said I keep getting a message during decrypt that says it "requires a different key" then it fails to decrypt. Can someone point me to instructions on how to repair the FU4WM and WMP10 handshake or link or whatever? How do I get FU4WM to look for a new set of keys?

EDIT: NEVERMIND, I figured out how to force FU4WM 1.3 to recover a new set of keys..........:stupid: It now works with WMP10..:cool:

Nihilist
11th November 2006, 15:26
Everything was working fine for me, but not I keep getting the message that the files "do not appear to be licensed to me". I have tried both 1.3 and the fixed 1.3. I am running WMP11.

It all worked flawlessly a couple weeks ago, now some of my files throw that message. Would it have something to do with the fact that some of the files were downloaded using my Urge account, and some were from my wife's? Or is it just from WMP being upgraded? I have tried re-getting the keys, still the same message.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

alexdrichter
11th November 2006, 17:39
Hey,

My fairuse4wm 1.3 was working fine on Windows Media Player 11 final, (non-fix). But i thought it wasn't (duh should have checked), so i recovered keys using fix. Now both non-fix and fix won't decrypt files, even much older DRM files due to an "unrecognisable DRM header". I know these files can be unDRMed because i have done it before.

Anyone can offer some help? I would be forever thankful. I want to transfer the music I OWN, to my Zune when it comes.

EDIT: The same files will unDRM correctly on another machine. To be clear NOTHING will unDRM on the Media Player 11 machine.

protectyoursources
11th November 2006, 23:23
Everything was working fine for me, but not I keep getting the message that the files "do not appear to be licensed to me". I have tried both 1.3 and the fixed 1.3. I am running WMP11.

It all worked flawlessly a couple weeks ago, now some of my files throw that message. Would it have something to do with the fact that some of the files were downloaded using my Urge account, and some were from my wife's? Or is it just from WMP being upgraded? I have tried re-getting the keys, still the same message.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

I had a simmilar problem recently and had to get my content provider to contact thier DRM clearance service to reset my licneces it took about two weeks and I know the right people to contact when there's a problem including the developers and CEO of the service and the contacts at the DRM service .

So I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with regular customer service .

After that experience I made sure I unDRMed all of my content so it wont happen again :P...

trudgy
12th November 2006, 00:16
I get this error:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.


any idea what i can do to get this to work? i have WMP11 and the fair use 1.3

Danj
12th November 2006, 16:57
"Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324

That looks like a higher version number than before doesn't it? I guess it means we'll have to wait and see if viodentia or monkey boy or someone can make FU4WM work with the new version.

bigdog660
13th November 2006, 00:53
My IndivBox.key file is v11.0.5497.6285. This update was forced on me on both WMP10 and 11. Can't play my videos without the update.

Yep, looks like I'm going to have to wait until FU or UuDRM is updated.

<Sigh>

trudgy
13th November 2006, 02:11
thanks for the reply Danj,

I went back to wmp10 just to see if it would help, but same error code, so dunno , musta been an update or something. I shall wait patiently and keep following this thread

Danj
14th November 2006, 09:47
Engadget posted a nice summary of the legal action (http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/microsofts-war-waged-with-fairuse4wm/) currently ongoing against "John Does 1-10 a.k.a. viodentia". Some parts of particular interest:

If Microsoft is unable to procure useful information from Google or Yahoo!, or if they run into a dead end at the ISP level, it will need to find some other means of identifying Viodentia. To expand the scope of its search, Microsoft would need to seek and receive further permission from the court. The present order gives Microsoft only 120 days to discover Viodentia's identity. Although Microsoft can seek a time extension, if it cannot name an actual person in its suit before Judge Coughenour's patience wears out, the case will likely be thrown out.

The critical importance of the subpoena power to Microsoft's case against Viodentia explains the otherwise-mysterious question of why Microsoft has filed a suit for copyright infringement rather than for circumvention of DRM. The subpoena power is a little-noticed feature that the DMCA added to copyright law. In the old days, ISPs often refused to disclose the identities of their users. Then along came the DMCA's 17 U.S.C. 512(h)(1), which enables a content owner to subpoena an ISP and demand user identities. This is crucial because ultimately, it is the only way to maintain a lawsuit and force a user like Viodentia to stop. But here's the problem: 512(h)(1) applies only to copyright violation and not to DRM circumvention. If it were only a matter of hacking WM, Microsoft would not be able to use a subpoena to identify Viodentia. Therefore, Microsoft must claim copyright infringement, whether or not that actually is the case.

So now we know why they are pursuing a patently ridiculous copyright infringement claim, it's obviously not because they actually believe any code was stolen, it's just so they can use the subpoena power.

blutach
14th November 2006, 09:59
Interesting info Danj. Thanks

Regards

Deihmos
15th November 2006, 17:30
Engadget posted a nice summary of the legal action (http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/microsofts-war-waged-with-fairuse4wm/) currently ongoing against "John Does 1-10 a.k.a. viodentia". Some parts of particular interest:





So now we know why they are pursuing a patently ridiculous copyright infringement claim, it's obviously not because they actually believe any code was stolen, it's just so they can use the subpoena power.

So what do you think they shoudl do? Sit back and let the masses get free music from yahoo, napster and the other music-to-go services? I know many people who used this program and signed up for a 2 week trial and downloaded tons of music then removed the DRM. I am sure Viodelda works for MS but what do i know.

I just signed into napster and had to install an update. Not sure what it was but I will see if this program still works.

n808
15th November 2006, 17:37
So what do you think they shoudl do?
How about fixing their broken DRM so that FairUse4WM no longer works?

Scarpad
15th November 2006, 17:41
Sucks for Us that bought a Zune and have to use up our 1year sub to Napster, but oh well we knew that going in, still with MS abandoning PFS for this new device, I'm not going to feel sorry for them.

Deihmos
15th November 2006, 17:54
Sucks for Us that bought a Zune and have to use up our 1year sub to Napster, but oh well we knew that going in, still with MS abandoning PFS for this new device, I'm not going to feel sorry for them.

Then why would you buy a Zune knowing it only works with Zune Service? That's like buying an Ipod to use with Rhapsody-to-go.

You know Zune is not a very good Mp3 player right? The reviews for it suck and there are much better players on the market. If you want a good MP3 player I suggest you get a creative player as it has the best sound quality and media support plus the screen is nice (much better than an Ipod). Plays Divx, Xvid, WMv, WMA, Mpeg, AVi etc. http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=14331

protectyoursources
16th November 2006, 01:08
The Zune

Cool another DRM scheme to break

Wanna place Bets .....

Scarpad
16th November 2006, 03:22
Then why would you buy a Zune knowing it only works with Zune Service? That's like buying an Ipod to use with Rhapsody-to-go.

You know Zune is not a very good Mp3 player right? The reviews for it suck and there are much better players on the market. If you want a good MP3 player I suggest you get a creative player as it has the best sound quality and media support plus the screen is nice (much better than an Ipod). Plays Divx, Xvid, WMv, WMA, Mpeg, AVi etc. http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=14331

I have a Zen M and I Have a Zune, and it's a pretty Nice Player

rdn98
16th November 2006, 06:00
Ok, I updated to wmp11 final. I installed urge. THen I go to microsoft and do the individualize thing. Download a few songs.

When I try fairuse4wm 1.3 fix, I get these messages:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv02.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1338 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv02.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1338 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Any ideas?

Danj
16th November 2006, 10:12
Ok, I updated to wmp11 final. I installed urge. THen I go to microsoft and do the individualize thing. Download a few songs.

When I try fairuse4wm 1.3 fix, I get these messages:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv02.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1338 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv02.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1338 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Any ideas?

Like I mentioned earlier, 11.0.6000.6324 is a higher version number than before which means Microsoft have updated the IBX again. So you'll just have to wait and see if viodentia or monkey boy or somebody will come out with a new version.

minnieb
16th November 2006, 14:20
hey ppl,

does fairuse4wm strip drm from "microsoft reader" ebooks?
or do they use a totally different drm scheme?

thx,
minniex

Sharktooth
16th November 2006, 16:35
The name says it all: Fair Use For Windows Media...

rdn98
16th November 2006, 19:01
hey ppl,

does fairuse4wm strip drm from "microsoft reader" ebooks?
or do they use a totally different drm scheme?

thx,
minniex

I think it will only work for DRM windows media files such as wma. You can try it on these ebooks and see what happens, but I doubt if it will work. Who knows, it might.

I hope Monkeyboy or someone else can fix the new IBX version soon! (*crosses fingers*)

banglbanglbang
16th November 2006, 23:15
hi folk`s i`am new here but i saw every topic & post about "RDM" removing


and ur tool rooks
and work with wmp 11.0.5721.5145

not higher version`s


and i have a problem here >>>>
i have a movie and license

but the movie ask 4 the license 2 play every time i open the file
i tried using FairUse 1.3 but it say the file is used by another program "u know another EXE so i can`t decrypt it by fairuse1.3"
and after finishing there is no license store in my system

how can i use "FairUse " or store the license while the player is working with the file ....

i found a places where the player store info about license using some apps like registry watch & system watch i found
this places :
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\drmstore.hds

and more in registry but no :angry: way i can`t store or see any change in this files that i can use later


can some 1 help me store my license in my system 4 later use or decrypting my movie file that would be Exelant jop!!?

ThaNX In AdVAnCe!:) :D

rdn98
17th November 2006, 17:20
hi folk`s i`am new here but i saw every topic & post about "RDM" removing


and ur tool rooks
and work with wmp 11.0.5721.5145

not higher version`s


and i have a problem here >>>>
i have a movie and license

but the movie ask 4 the license 2 play every time i open the file
i tried using FairUse 1.3 but it say the file is used by another program "u know another EXE so i can`t decrypt it by fairuse1.3"
and after finishing there is no license store in my system

how can i use "FairUse " or store the license while the player is working with the file ....

i found a places where the player store info about license using some apps like registry watch & system watch i found
this places :
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\drmstore.hds

and more in registry but no :angry: way i can`t store or see any change in this files that i can use later


can some 1 help me store my license in my system 4 later use or decrypting my movie file that would be Exelant jop!!?

ThaNX In AdVAnCe!:) :D


Ok first, download a sample movie clip at ezdrm.com and see if you can successfully decrypt that with fairusew4m 1.3 or the 1.3fix. If you can, then what I suggest is you play your drm protected movie, verify that it can play and work.

After that, use 1.3 or 1.3fix to try to get a license from that file and see if you can decrypt it. Hopefully that will work, at least that is what I have had experience with before.

Curious, where are you getting a drm protected movie from?

dirtminer
17th November 2006, 17:42
Re: Microsoft Reader DRM
www.processtext.com/abclit.html
www.convertlit.com

Re: One time licenses

You are very likely running into a "one play" license. FairUse4WM only works if you have a license and doesn't have the ability (... yet ... ) to ask the servers for a new license.

The solution to this is let FairUse4WM use the license instead of Media Player - by acquiring but not playing the file.
- Set your media player to ALWAYS PROMPT before acquiring a license. You should have this as your common setting anyway, because it will save you from folks using the DRM URL to deliver IE Exploits.
- Open the file in Media Player and acquire the license, but DON'T click play
- While the dialog is open you should be able to use FairUse4WM on that file. You can also exit Media Player (Click close) and collect licenses for multiple files.

trudgy
17th November 2006, 22:38
I just tried this on my work computer and it does in fact work still,

all updates have been on it, same as my home cmputer which it doesn't work on :s weird, but just thought i'd update

buggs1a
17th November 2006, 22:42
DanJ,
vio is gone, so there will be no more updates to far thingy.

Deihmos
18th November 2006, 03:31
Where did he go? He did not say good bye.

Sx66gns
18th November 2006, 06:44
Where did he go? He did not say good bye.

shhhh , i smell pork.

dk321
18th November 2006, 07:34
"C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\FairUse4WM\32.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you."

can someone help me with that? :)

Danj
18th November 2006, 12:36
"C:\Documents and Settings\user\Desktop\FairUse4WM\32.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you."

can someone help me with that? :)

Check out dirtminer's post, I think that method is what you need to use for that error.

dk321
18th November 2006, 17:41
do u have a link to that mate? that would be great thx :)

supergirl260
19th November 2006, 00:38
viodentia what happened too him

Danj
19th November 2006, 14:21
do u have a link to that mate? that would be great thx :)

Uhh it was like 5 posts above yours? Anyway here's the link (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=901541#post901541).

dk321
19th November 2006, 17:01
i dont have the license 4 it...it was leaked to me and it was DRM protected

buggs1a
19th November 2006, 21:34
obviously vio is in hdiing since he disappeared right at the same time ms went after him. haha.

blutach
19th November 2006, 21:56
@dk321 - please have a good read of rule 6. We can only help with things you own.

Regards

Toufas
21st November 2006, 03:13
i purchased some tv episodes from amazon unbox...
i downloaded FU4WMver13 i press recover keys and i first get IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet and then "drmclien.dll" has version 9.0.0.3250 i press ok, and the program crashes.
any help?

rdn98
21st November 2006, 04:14
did you try 1.3 fix?

Toufas
21st November 2006, 05:30
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
with 1.3 fix

Danj
21st November 2006, 09:01
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet

Basically, this is the key to the matter. If you have this IBX version you can't use any version of FairUse4WM, none of them will work. You have to hope that viodentia will come out of hiding, or that monkey boy or someone else will figure out a patch.

rdn98
21st November 2006, 18:32
Yea, exactly. I come here to this thread everyday just hoping that a miracle post is posted. :)

jlenkows
22nd November 2006, 03:57
Hi there... long time lurker, first time poster.

Kudos to the author of this incredible program.

That being said...

When I unDRM the files that I PURCHASED, the ID3 Tags are removed. Any way to stop this from happening???

I read each and EVERY post from page 1 to page 28 and nothing.

Any help would be appreciated!!!

Danj
22nd November 2006, 08:18
When I unDRM the files that I PURCHASED, the ID3 Tags are removed. Any way to stop this from happening???

Are you converting the files to MP3 or something? Because WMA/WMV doesn't use the ID3 standard, it uses its own proprietary method for storing artist and track data and stuff. FairUse4WM doesn't remove it as far as I'm aware but if you convert to MP3 afterwards you'll probably lose the info.

jlenkows
22nd November 2006, 15:31
Are you converting the files to MP3 or something? Because WMA/WMV doesn't use the ID3 standard, it uses its own proprietary method for storing artist and track data and stuff. FairUse4WM doesn't remove it as far as I'm aware but if you convert to MP3 afterwards you'll probably lose the info.

You're good.... That's exactly what I am doing. I am using the Imtoo WMA MP3 converter. Do you know of any other program that will do the conversion AND take the proprietary tags into the MP3 ID3 tags??

Many thanks again.

Danj
22nd November 2006, 21:21
You're good.... That's exactly what I am doing. I am using the Imtoo WMA MP3 converter. Do you know of any other program that will do the conversion AND take the proprietary tags into the MP3 ID3 tags??

Many thanks again.

I personally don't, but I asked around and apparently iTunes (http://www.apple.com/itunes/) and Foobar (http://www.foobar2000.org/) can both do this.

rdn98
22nd November 2006, 21:39
Yes, I think foobar does it too in terms of id3 tags. I've done conversions from WMA to mp3 using foobar and it is pretty quick.

Hey, where did you get your DRM files from so that your files can be successfully stripped and mine can't? I get that dang IBX error :).

mysekurity
23rd November 2006, 04:08
The tip to avoid the IBX error is to not allow your music downloading program to update. FU4WM can't deal with newer IBX, and therefore cannot convert files on a machine that uses the newer version. Even transferring DRM'd files from the newer machine to the older doesn't work to play the way it does for the other way around. Basically, if you have the option to use a machine that hasn't updated yet, do so, as there is no way that I know of that to downgrade IBX (if someone knows something, it'd be incredibly useful...)

mysekurity
23rd November 2006, 04:11
You can also use dbPowerAMP, which I find works wonders (download a LAME encoder to convert to mp3). dbPowerAMP is incredible for preserving ID3 tags and generally messing around with formats within an environment.

consultant
24th November 2006, 19:22
I can use Fairuse4wm to remove DRM on Rhapsody files but when I try to use it on Yahoo Music Unlimited files, I get a 'You do not appear to be the owner of this license" or something like that.

Why would one work but not the other?

consultant
24th November 2006, 20:07
Version 1.3 shouldn't have this problem, but .. There's a few things you can do.
A future version of FairUse4WM will verify the content key better. It's likely that you are running into a case where a provider reuses the same KID multiple times -- but with a different content key each time! Try running this while prompting for a license, that may help get the "correct" content key.

If that doesn't help, plese send a PM with more details

I'm having the same problem with the "you don't appear to be the owner" warning. Runinning fairuse4wm 1.3. Every file downloaded from Rhaspsody works fine. It's just the files I download from Yahoo Music that get this error. I bought one file from Yahoo and used it to recover a key (so it says I have 2 keys). Didn't help. I downloaded a Yahoo file to my library, didn't play it, changed the option in Windows Media Player to NOT automatically download licenses, opened the file and when the dialog came up, I ran fairuse and tried to remove drm but got the 'you don't appear to be the licensed owner' message.

Help! Can someone step me through it. I've seen messages regarding people removing drm on Yahoo files. Note that an important distinction is that it works on Yahoo files I've purchased. I have some songs I bought on CD that a long time ago I ripped to poor quality. So I already own these songs. I'm just trying to get a better quality version.

On Rhapsody I can remove the DRM for songs I don't own. But not on Yahoo. Has anyone been able to remove DRM on songs they don't own downloaded from Yahoo?

blutach
24th November 2006, 22:01
I can use Fairuse4wm to remove DRM on Rhapsody files but when I try to use it on Yahoo Music Unlimited files, I get a 'You do not appear to be the owner of this license" or something like that.

Why would one work but not the other?
I'm having the same problem with the "you don't appear to be the owner" warning. Runinning fairuse4wm 1.3. Every file downloaded from Rhaspsody works fine. It's just the files I download from Yahoo Music that get this error. I bought one file from Yahoo and used it to recover a key (so it says I have 2 keys). Didn't help. I downloaded a Yahoo file to my library, didn't play it, changed the option in Windows Media Player to NOT automatically download licenses, opened the file and when the dialog came up, I ran fairuse and tried to remove drm but got the 'you don't appear to be the licensed owner' message.

Help! Can someone step me through it. I've seen messages regarding people removing drm on Yahoo files. Note that an important distinction is that it works on Yahoo files I've purchased. I have some songs I bought on CD that a long time ago I ripped to poor quality. So I already own these songs. I'm just trying to get a better quality version.

On Rhapsody I can remove the DRM for songs I don't own. But not on Yahoo. Has anyone been able to remove DRM on songs they don't own downloaded from Yahoo?

@consultant

Please do not ask questions about files you do not own. Read rule 6 carefully and the announcement at the top of this forum. You've been here long enough to know better.

You will not receive any advice on this from members - both you and they are risking strikes.


Regards

alexdrichter
25th November 2006, 09:50
Is there any way to use this on Vista?

Only thing preventing me from switching.

EDIT: Oops, my bad its just because of the IBX being 6234 that its not working.

Danj
25th November 2006, 14:44
Is there any way to use this on Vista?

Only thing preventing me from switching.

EDIT: Oops, my bad its just because of the IBX being 6234 that its not working.

Previous DRM removal programs (like drm2wmv and its frontends) won't work for Vista because Windows Media Player is now a Protected Process. The latest FU4WM seems to try and extract the keys directly from the IBX. Unfortunately Microsoft changed the IBX around, so it doesn't work any more, but if FU4WM is ever updated, it should work fine on Vista. Also FU4WM already writes its data file (blackbox-keys.txt) to My Documents instead of in its program folder, so that complies with Vista restrictions too.

protectyoursources
26th November 2006, 03:10
@consultant

Please do not ask questions about files you do not own. Read rule 6 carefully and the announcement at the top of this forum. You've been here long enough to know better.

You will not receive any advice on this from members - both you and they are risking strikes.


Regards

How about if the DRM processor issues an invalid licence this has happened to me with a content service I use -on my entire library when I tried to restore my licneces after re-installing windows on my Desktop PC.

It took DRM Networks 2 weeks to restore my licences on their end and they basically had to reset my whole DRM count for my content provider.And DRM networks continues to give my content provider headaches like not enabling CD burning for some tracks within my content providers download manager but the tracks can be burnt in Windows Media Player it shows you how poorly designed Windows Media DRM really is .

FU4WM came up with the error of these files are not licensed to you during the time my licences where invalid .

So as soon as I got my licences restored I ran FU4WM on my entire library so I would not have DRM issues again ;).

blutach
26th November 2006, 04:02
@protectyoursources

If you own the content, then no worries. But consultant admitted otherwise and that's when I have to step in.

On Rhapsody I can remove the DRM for songs I don't own.

Regards

odyssey
26th November 2006, 06:02
@consultant

Please do not ask questions about files you do not own. Read rule 6 carefully and the announcement at the top of this forum. You've been here long enough to know better.

You will not receive any advice on this from members - both you and they are risking strikes.


Regards

I can't even take you serious when you did not read his post! When will anyone here ever learn that this "error" occours with some files *that are actually valid* and not just assuming that users are talking about pirated music?

setarip_old
26th November 2006, 06:27
@odyssey

Hi!

As an impartial observer to this thread (I'm not a music aficionado), I have to ask you two questions about your post:

1) How can you claim, or possibly think, that this part of the post by "consultant" is NOT a clear indication that he/she is talking about files that he/she doesn't own?On Rhapsody I can remove the DRM for songs I don't own. But not on Yahoo. Has anyone been able to remove DRM on songs they don't own downloaded from Yahoo?2) Do you really think it's a good idea to publicly challenge a warning to another poster by the moderator of this sub-forum? (I believe doing so is a violation of the rules of these forums)

blutach
26th November 2006, 10:52
Exactly setarip_old

odyssey, I will ask you to please carefully read rule 4, which I am sure you are aware of, since you have been here for 3 years. Should you, or any other member, have an issue with the administration of this sub-forum, please PM me (in the first instance) or Doom9 (otherwise) and do not sound off in public.

Let's move on to issues concerning FU4WM please.

Regards

odyssey
26th November 2006, 14:25
Nevermind...

milOtis
28th November 2006, 04:07
found this fix on the net: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=RCR1RHC1

apparently works for already updated IBX, this resets IBX and rollsback WMP11 manually allowing fairuse4wm1.3fix to work.

kqmaverick
28th November 2006, 06:34
found this fix on the net: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=RCR1RHC1

apparently works for already updated IBX, this resets IBX and rollsback WMP11 manually allowing fairuse4wm1.3fix to work.

Tried this still have the latest DRM files.

milOtis
28th November 2006, 06:38
i had the latest wmp11 and the latest DRM, and when i did this, deleted and manually downgraded witht he included wmp11 old files, i could use fairuse4wm1.3 again

Danj
28th November 2006, 08:12
Tried this still have the latest DRM files.

The problem with FairUse4WM 1.3 is not the version of Media Player, since it no longer has to load Media Player to extract the keys. And you can't simply "roll back" the IBX - the clue is in the name Indivbox.key - it's a file that's individual to you and you alone. You can't replace it with someone else's or even with an older copy of your own, since the keys needed to decrypt your content won't be present (quite apart from which, attempting to roll back the IBX will trash your drmstore.hds and invalidate all your existing licenses, I tried it before).

Also, it's not a question of "not updating"... if your music provider forces an update on you, you have to accept it if you want to continue purchasing music from them.

milOtis
28th November 2006, 08:25
The problem with FairUse4WM 1.3 is not the version of Media Player, since it no longer has to load Media Player to extract the keys. And you can't simply "roll back" the IBX - the clue is in the name Indivbox.key - it's a file that's individual to you and you alone. You can't replace it with someone else's or even with an older copy of your own, since the keys needed to decrypt your content won't be present (quite apart from which, attempting to roll back the IBX will trash your drmstore.hds and invalidate all your existing licenses, I tried it before).

Also, it's not a question of "not updating"... if your music provider forces an update on you, you have to accept it if you want to continue purchasing music from them.

the fact is, this works though. if you do what is in the zip file it works. part of the instructions include deleting the indivbox.key file along with others under All Users/DRM folder

It works, already tried it on fully 100% updated computers with the latest/final wmp11 installed , using the latest URGE service update as well.

I cannot speak for napster/yahoo/rhapsody, but this makes urge downloads convert flawlessly with fairuse4wm, and since ive done that ZIP file, there havent been any forced updates

kqmaverick
28th November 2006, 16:39
the fact is, this works though. if you do what is in the zip file it works. part of the instructions include deleting the indivbox.key file along with others under All Users/DRM folder

It works, already tried it on fully 100% updated computers with the latest/final wmp11 installed , using the latest URGE service update as well.

I cannot speak for napster/yahoo/rhapsody, but this makes urge downloads convert flawlessly with fairuse4wm, and since ive done that ZIP file, there havent been any forced updates

was my mistake, it did roll it back properly, i wasent using 1.3fix. Still dosent work though :( i get the following error:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

milOtis
28th November 2006, 19:02
was my mistake, it did roll it back properly, i wasent using 1.3fix. Still dosent work though :( i get the following error:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

see, your version is still "11.0.6000.6342" which means you did something wrong. Here's what this fix does and this is why it works...

When you downgrade media player to the one in the zip file "11.0.5705.5043" and you reindividualize after deleting the DRM files under "AllUsers", the new "Indivbox.key" is individualized BASED ON your version of Windows Media Player, so the IBX is based on 11.0.5705, and not 11.0.6000...and since fairuse4wm can handle 5705 you are good to go.

::: milOtis

P.S. - The good thing about this fix is that it is not just a crack/patch, but a physical file downgrade meaning to couter this Microsoft would have to release an entirely new version of Media Player that installed in a different folder, and used a different DRM method other than IBX.

oldshark1957
28th November 2006, 19:15
found this fix on the net: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=RCR1RHC1

apparently works for already updated IBX, this resets IBX and rollsback WMP11 manually allowing fairuse4wm1.3fix to work.

Newbie questions here, thanks in advance for your patience.

My interest is in burning a CD containing .wma files I bought and paid for (not rented) at the rate of $1 each from Yahoo!'s music service.

I'm keenly interested to know if this works, and admit to having only a very limited understanding of the technical aspects. To the extent I do understand this new "fix," it basically makes your computer think it's running an older version of Windows Media Player 11 -- an older version that still works fine with fairuse4wm1.3fix. But what is there that stops WMP from insisting on updating itself after running this fix?

And what risks am I running? Right now I can't burn a CD with this music, but I can at least still play it from my PC. If Microsoft does another tweak, how much risk am I at that suddenly I won't be able to play these files (whether with WMP or some other application) even from my PC?

Last set of related questions: Although I wasn't able to burn a CD from which these files were playable, I was able to sync them (using WMP) onto my Motorola MotoKRZR K1m phone, and they play just fine there. Although I'm grateful, I'm curious why these files will play from my cellphone but not from a CD. WMP appears to be doing some sort of fairly quick conversion as part of the sync'g -- .wma to .mp3? Is there some way to emulate that process for files I'm burning onto my CD? If I could do so without loss of quality, I wouldn't mind something extremely slow, like the "sound stream capturing" techniques and software I've seen mentioned here. Do those result in a loss of quality, or just bigger files? If the latter, does anyone have a good freeware or cheap recommendation for an app that does this?

rdn98
28th November 2006, 21:20
Hey, as far as your wma files are concerned, I think it is best if you use the "sound capturing" techniques for copying your wma files to unprotected wma files or mp3 files. I use tunebite for music that I have legally bought in the past from URGE, and it works perfectly.

How it works it plays the song using WMP, but it records it on the fly at a super fast playing speed. You can choose to have it record straight to wma, ogg, or mp3. In theory, wma comes originally as a lossless format (or is it lossy), and I convert it to wma just to retain the fidelity. However, I suppose I could convert it straight to mp3 and save some disc space, but the audio quality will be slightly degraded (not like the average human ear can detect anyway). That is what I suggest you do.

As far as free alternatives, there are none that I know of. Maybe a google search will do you well, but I think tunebite is the best of them all hands down.



Newbie questions here, thanks in advance for your patience.

My interest is in burning a CD containing .wma files I bought and paid for (not rented) at the rate of $1 each from Yahoo!'s music service.

I'm keenly interested to know if this works, and admit to having only a very limited understanding of the technical aspects. To the extent I do understand this new "fix," it basically makes your computer think it's running an older version of Windows Media Player 11 -- an older version that still works fine with fairuse4wm1.3fix. But what is there that stops WMP from insisting on updating itself after running this fix?

And what risks am I running? Right now I can't burn a CD with this music, but I can at least still play it from my PC. If Microsoft does another tweak, how much risk am I at that suddenly I won't be able to play these files (whether with WMP or some other application) even from my PC?

Last set of related questions: Although I wasn't able to burn a CD from which these files were playable, I was able to sync them (using WMP) onto my Motorola MotoKRZR K1m phone, and they play just fine there. Although I'm grateful, I'm curious why these files will play from my cellphone but not from a CD. WMP appears to be doing some sort of fairly quick conversion as part of the sync'g -- .wma to .mp3? Is there some way to emulate that process for files I'm burning onto my CD? If I could do so without loss of quality, I wouldn't mind something extremely slow, like the "sound stream capturing" techniques and software I've seen mentioned here. Do those result in a loss of quality, or just bigger files? If the latter, does anyone have a good freeware or cheap recommendation for an app that does this?

milOtis
28th November 2006, 21:34
this new "fix," it basically makes your computer think it's running an older version of Windows Media Player 11 -- an older version that still works fine with fairuse4wm1.3fix. But what is there that stops WMP from insisting on updating itself after running this fix?

And what risks am I running? Right now I can't burn a CD with this music, but I can at least still play it from my PC. If Microsoft does another tweak, how much risk am I at that suddenly I won't be able to play these files (whether with WMP or some other application) even from my PC?

ok #1 - a log file is saved of updates, so no updates will be forced on you that have been undone by this downgrade, because the update log file is still intact.

#2 - risk? there is none, since the whole point of fairuse4wm is removing the protection so you can burn it, transfer it, convert it, do whatever u want with it. just use fairuse4wm to remove protection from your WMAs (rented or purchased) then once they are unprotected it doesn't matter what you do with them, they will always be unprotected.

to RDN98 - using tunebyte to conbvert songs is ridiculous, it takes like 30 seconds per song, where fairuse4wm is lossless, and does 150-200 songs per minute.

::: milOtis

voodoohippie
28th November 2006, 21:37
Yes I too use Tunebite to copy straight to Mp3 the songs I purchase from Yahoo or even iTunes. I bought the newest Bob Seger album and it works.

Also it works on Video files you Pay for on Cinema Now.

Tunebite is a bit slower than Fairuse4WM but who really cares. Use what works best for you. I never got the video files I purchased to work when I convert them to DvD with ConvertXtoDvD unless I use Tunebite to convert to a WMV file first. Tunebite was around way before this Fairuse4WM program and I've used both. The both have their ups and downs. So get them both and try them and see what works for you.

milOtis
28th November 2006, 23:59
Tunebite is a bit slower than Fairuse4WM but who really cares. Use what works best for you.

i CARE because you lose quality with tunebyte. it is recording only what the soundcard hears, and resaves the file to another format.

fairuse4wm is lossless.

i don't know why anyone would use tunebyte, fairuse4wm still works perfectly.

::: milOtis

buggs1a
29th November 2006, 00:08
people use tunebite if they want mp3 as i do. my car cd player does not play wma nor does my home theater dvd player. so i use tunebite on stuff to convert to mp3 so i can make mp3 cd's and mp3 is more compatible then wma. sound is fine since i tell tunebite to convert to mp3 320k. wma is 192k so an mp3 320k is about right.

it seems vio is gone now for good which sucks, :(

hanugro
29th November 2006, 02:51
found this fix on the net: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=RCR1RHC1

apparently works for already updated IBX, this resets IBX and rollsback WMP11 manually allowing fairuse4wm1.3fix to work.

The file has dissapeared. Could you place it somewhere so ppl can download it again?

mysekurity
29th November 2006, 02:55
people use tunebite if they want mp3 as i do.
i use tunebite on stuff to convert to mp3 so i can make mp3 cd's and mp3 is more compatible then wma. sound is fine since i tell tunebite to convert to mp3 320k. wma is 192k so an mp3 320k is about right.

You're not going to get a higher-quality output by encoding to 320kb. To be quite honest, you're just wasting space. You can't get more out than what you put in (as my coach always says), and you're probably actually sacrificing quality by converting. By contrast, using FU4WM to convert keeps the file lossless (and probably loses a few kb by getting rid of the DRM). DRM wears down battery life, and is the cause of a million other problems, including cancer. But all kidding aside, if you want your files in mp3 format, either get them from eMusic, or use FU4WM on the protected WMAs and convert using a program like LAME. Remember that you aren't going to get anything you don't already have.

WalterK
29th November 2006, 03:17
if you are on the tunebite aka record the audio bandwagon why spend cash?
Just get audacity
that has the ability to record auido thats being pipped through your system into whatever format you desire once you have the codec that is.

josh2
29th November 2006, 03:51
The file has dissapeared. Could you place it somewhere so ppl can download it again?

Ditto.

Might try megashares.com, they seem to be good about not deleting files.

Josh

rdn98
29th November 2006, 03:56
Yes, I know you will lose some details when using tunebite....all I'm saying is if you are getting IBX errors (or when the above file is deleted), then tunebite is a good alternative.

Don't get me wrong, I've been trying for days, if not weeks trying to find a fix to get fairuse4wm to work again, and I would use that over tunebite anyday.

blutach
29th November 2006, 04:03
I don't suppose I could steer posters back on topic please?

Regards

rdn98
29th November 2006, 04:38
Anyway, I think I found a momentary fix for people who like to purchase music through URGE and are having a hard time with taking off the DRM.

I just downloaded an older copy of wmp11 beta2 from oldapps.com, and then I used the 1.3fix and it worked! I was amazed. I guess this will have to do for the time being. :)

milOtis
29th November 2006, 04:44
Anyway, I think I found a momentary fix for people who like to purchase music through URGE and are having a hard time with taking off the DRM.

I just downloaded an older copy of wmp11 beta2 from oldapps.com, and then I used the 1.3fix and it worked! I was amazed. I guess this will have to do for the time being. :)
yeah, duh, thats exactly what i told you to do with that fix file, the one you already tried, but there's more to it for other people who havent done thos DRM steps you did from my file, it's all included in this new file...

here's a reupload working link:
http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=2e468e5

P.S. - blutach - this is all on topic, what r u talking about?

Danj
29th November 2006, 08:36
yeah, duh, thats exactly what i told you to do with that fix file, the one you already tried, but there's more to it for other people who havent done thos DRM steps you did from my file, it's all included in this new file...

Well, I downloaded this file and looked at the instructions and it seems pretty clear that this method won't work for music you already downloaded, since deleting the contents of the DRM folder will trash any existing licenses you have. So anyone who wants to do this, make sure you backed up or removed the DRM from all your existing music, including any that you ripped to protected WMA yourself.

gw630
29th November 2006, 09:20
Hi all,

I tried to run FairUse4WM 1.3 and got this error message, "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." I hit OK and it tried to recover DRMv1 Keys. This msg appeared in the prompt window, "FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information. 'DrmClien.DLL' has version 10.0.0.3646" I hit both the OK and Skip buttons and nothing happened.

Can someone help me to get this to work? I'm running XP Home and WM 11.

Much appreciated.

gw630

gw630
29th November 2006, 09:25
Well, I downloaded this file and looked at the instructions and it seems pretty clear that this method won't work for music you already downloaded, since deleting the contents of the DRM folder will trash any existing licenses you have. So anyone who wants to do this, make sure you backed up or removed the DRM from all your existing music, including any that you ripped to protected WMA yourself.

How can I back up or remove the DRM from my existing music? Sorry for being a rookie.

josh2
29th November 2006, 14:33
here's a reupload working link:
http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=2e468e5


Thank you!

I've managed to keep from getting the updated IBX thus far, but it'll probably get pushed on me eventually.

Mirror: http://rapidshare.com/files/5304718/2006_11_27_DRM_FIX.zip

But like I said, Megashares is pretty good. Instead of deleting the file with an email, like a lot of hosts do, they'll comply to the DMCA but only after a formal written letter with a bunch of forms and stuff.

Danj
29th November 2006, 15:27
Hi all,

I tried to run FairUse4WM 1.3 and got this error message, "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." I hit OK and it tried to recover DRMv1 Keys. This msg appeared in the prompt window, "FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information. 'DrmClien.DLL' has version 10.0.0.3646" I hit both the OK and Skip buttons and nothing happened.

Can someone help me to get this to work? I'm running XP Home and WM 11.

I don't mean to be offensive or anything, but a lot of people seem to have trouble understanding "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet". What part of this do you not understand? It means that it can't work with that version of the Individualized BlackBox DLL (the file that does the "donkey work" of Windows Media DRM) because it is newer than what the program supports. There is no magical way to make it work, and nobody other than viodentia or some other programmer can figure out what to change to make FU4WM able to extract the keys from it.

If you attempt to "roll back" your IBX version as has been suggested on here, even if it does work you will still lose any existing content licenses that you have.

The long and short of it is, people have to hope that their music provider does not force an updated IBX on them if they wish to continue removing DRM from their existing music.

milOtis
29th November 2006, 18:33
The long and short of it is, people have to hope that their music provider does not force an updated IBX on them if they wish to continue removing DRM from their existing music.

well Windows Media Player , and URGE arent forcing any updates on me, and I've used it everyday since I did the rollback fix 7 days ago. FairUSe4WM still working like a charm, even using version 1.2 works.

::: milOtis

generalnewbie
29th November 2006, 19:15
:thanks: Rockin' program.

Agreed.. great app.

rdn98
29th November 2006, 19:30
well Windows Media Player , and URGE arent forcing any updates on me, and I've used it everyday since I did the rollback fix 7 days ago. FairUSe4WM still working like a charm, even using version 1.2 works.

::: milOtis

Yes, you are correct. Sometimes it is best to rollback to older versions of the software instead of running the latest WMP version. It's not like you are missing much if you aren't using the final version anyway. :)

milOtis
29th November 2006, 21:14
Yes, you are correct. Sometimes it is best to rollback to older versions of the software instead of running the latest WMP version. It's not like you are missing much if you aren't using the final version anyway. :)

exactly, all i use windows media player for is downloading songs from URGE...regardless of the version of media player i am using, i STILL get the same quality audio files. i mean URGE is $10 a month for unlimited downloads, better than any other service.

once ive downloaded what i need from URGE through WMP, i just drop them into fairuse4wm, then itunes makes them into MP3s retaining all the ID tag info and even the album art.

I don't know why people are having so much trouble finidng a good workflow for getting DRM-free music

My Workflow: URGE --> FairUse4WM --> iTunes
(this gets you 192K quality MP3s)

From the moment I click to download a full album, to having DRM-free MP3 files, takes about 2 minutes. Yeah you can use Tunebyte but then it takes 30 minutes per album, and you lose quality. I can burn these files, convert the files, use them in video editing, do whatever I want at a fraction of the time...this is not difficult people.

::: milOtis

rdn98
29th November 2006, 22:30
As far as converting from wma to mp3 is concerned, are there other programs out there that will convert but retain the album art besides Itunes?

Only reason I'm asking is because Itunes is sort of like bloatware and it be nice if there were alternatives available.

mysekurity
29th November 2006, 23:39
milOtis: I don't think that's really what this program was intended for (see the first post). Please keep it legal for the rest of us.

mysekurity
30th November 2006, 00:01
rdn98: yes. dbPowerAMP seems to work great for me in converting files, but you'll need to pay extra for mp3 support. As I said, LAME should work for you, but if not, there are plenty of other options available. I agree with you that iTunes is bloatware though.

omjeremy
30th November 2006, 02:19
I bought (not rented) some movielink movies and am having difficulties converting them to a different format. The reason I want to convert them is that my portable media player (Cowon A2) has some difficulty playing the videos, even though they're DRM free, thanks to FairUse4WM. I would like to convert them to xvid/divx format. Any suggestions (besides tunebite)?

gw630
30th November 2006, 06:33
Thank you!

I've managed to keep from getting the updated IBX thus far, but it'll probably get pushed on me eventually.

Mirror: http://rapidshare.com/files/5304718/2006_11_27_DRM_FIX.zip

But like I said, Megashares is pretty good. Instead of deleting the file with an email, like a lot of hosts do, they'll comply to the DMCA but only after a formal written letter with a bunch of forms and stuff.

Josh2,

I followed your instructions down to this one:
5. now go here, and click "upgrade"
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite

When I got there, the upgrade button was disabled. So now I'm stuck... do you have any suggestions for me?

Thanks!

gw630
30th November 2006, 06:35
well Windows Media Player , and URGE arent forcing any updates on me, and I've used it everyday since I did the rollback fix 7 days ago. FairUSe4WM still working like a charm, even using version 1.2 works.

::: milOtis

MilOtis,

Can you direct me to the rollback fix?

Thanks.

Negi
30th November 2006, 08:07
the upgrade security components thing on microsoft.com now updates ibx to the new version. the rollback doesn't work anymore.

omjeremy
30th November 2006, 14:37
Josh2,

I followed your instructions down to this one:
5. now go here, and click "upgrade"
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite

When I got there, the upgrade button was disabled. So now I'm stuck... do you have any suggestions for me?

Thanks!

Use IE, instead of Firefox.

rdn98
30th November 2006, 16:36
I bought (not rented) some movielink movies and am having difficulties converting them to a different format. The reason I want to convert them is that my portable media player (Cowon A2) has some difficulty playing the videos, even though they're DRM free, thanks to FairUse4WM. I would like to convert them to xvid/divx format. Any suggestions (besides tunebite)?

I convert my own movies to divx/xvid all the time, I'm glad you asked. Check out AutoGK or Dr Divx 2 OSS beta 2. Both are stellar programs.

@Negi: Are you saying that if you use an older version of WMP11 and not the final version, your IBX file is automatically updated to the latest and greatest version? So its forced upon you, is that what you are saying?

milOtis
30th November 2006, 17:15
the upgrade security components thing on microsoft.com now updates ibx to the new version. the rollback doesn't work anymore.

i just did it again this morning on a computer here at the office. still working because if you do the downgrade first, when you individualize, it sends you the IBX for whatever version of WMP you have...that's why this fix will always work as long as you don't reupdate WMP

it only downloads the IBX that corresponds to your WMP version, so if you keep the old WMPbeta2 installed (in that zip file) then your IBX stays old as well, that's how IBX works, it's directly tied to your WMP version...you can't have an old WMP and a newer IBX.

::: milOtis

P.S. - there are no "forced" updates after you downgrade as long as you keep clicking "no" when it asks if you want to update. it will still let you use WMP even when you click "no" so it isn't forced

milOtis
30th November 2006, 17:36
here's a screenshot for those unbelievers out there.

this is on a computer i downgraded using that fix AND reindividualized IBX this morning, and here is a screenshot of a fairuse4wm converted file that i downloaded today from URGE.

i even included the official date/time government website so you could see it can be done if you follow the instructions correctly in the zip file.

SCREENSHOT:
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6306/20061130oo1.jpg

FIX link (zip file):
http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=2e468e5

::: milOtis

rdn98
30th November 2006, 19:03
Now I haven't had the opportunity to read the instructions yet that I assume are in the rapidshare zip file, but I just want to point out that individualizing your computer for DRM is not necessary, but it depends on your situation.

Reason I say this is because I have had multiple computers where I installed wmp11 beta 2 and urge straight from an older copy of WMP. Downloaded a few sample songs, and verified that fairuse4wm can convert them.

No need to manually go to microsoft and invididualize my machine. However, it could be possible that WMP is doing it in the background at some point without my knowing and individualizing my machine for me automatically. Just thought I'd point that out.

milOtis
1st December 2006, 02:48
yes, it individualizes when you download a song again, but for those having newer IBX problems they have to follow the instructions in that ZIP file to get it to work for them.

::: milOtis

MoFoQ
1st December 2006, 08:19
quick question....
Does the 11/27 DRM fix require 1.3fix or will it work with 1.3?

'Cuz all the links to 1.3fix (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=898172#post898172) are dead. :(

milOtis
1st December 2006, 09:46
it will actually work with 1.2 since the rolled-back is the beta2 version, but if you need the 1.3fix file (will work with it too), here's a link...

http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=3a5e704

i just named it file.zip so it wouldnt get deleted too fast.

if it doesnt work pm me.

::: milOtis

omjeremy
1st December 2006, 15:46
I convert my own movies to divx/xvid all the time, I'm glad you asked. Check out AutoGK or Dr Divx 2 OSS beta 2. Both are stellar programs.

Actually, neither of these programs work for MovieLink files. The only program I could get to convert the files properly was MediaCoder, which is available here: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/

I figured I'd post this in case someone else is looking for a way to convert MovieLink files after DRM has been removed thanks for FairUse4WM!

milOtis
1st December 2006, 17:13
for conversion, after DRM is removed this is what i reccomend:

For AUDIO: (Free Programs will do)
- iTunes works great for converting WMA to MP3 once you change the settings in iTunes to 192K MP3 joinst stereo, and uncheck both boxes "smart" and "filter"

- Audiograbber has a free build in lame encoder, with quality vs speed settings, set to high, and use the free downloadble lame_enc.dll for encoding.

For VIDEO: (Paid program)
- Canopus ProCoder v2 is the only video conversion program I will reccomend. I would rather have quality and the options Canopus offers rather than a free program with no filters, or udio/video fade in or scene cut options.

P.S. - If you are using fairuse4wm, your obviously not the most ethical person in the bunch, so getting Canopus ProCoder from torrentspy.com or torrentreactor.net probably wouldn't bother ya.

omjeremy
1st December 2006, 17:17
I beg to differ. There's a big difference between removing DRM from files you purchased and downloaded Warez.

poleman
1st December 2006, 17:27
Does anyone know when or if fairuse4wm will be updated to a new version? thanks

rdn98
1st December 2006, 19:53
@poleman: No, no one knows. If there is an updated version released, it will be a surprise to everyone.

josh2
1st December 2006, 20:32
FairUse4WM 1.3 Fix, mirrors:
http://rapidshare.com/files/5632910/fu4wm13fix.exe
http://files.to/get/288580/51326/fu4wm13fix.exe
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nsxsea
http://d01.megashares.com/?d01=d195a38
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HAJM1LKG
http://www.f-forge.com?d=zZvpPERaUnIOFjwX7AW4
http://www.filefactory.com/file/2ae6fa/
http://storeandserve.com/download/617806/fu4wm13fix.exe.html?fmw=WQ==
http://download.yousendit.com/C488F2E60425A822

That should be enough for a little while ;)

blutach
1st December 2006, 23:18
P.S. - If you are using fairuse4wm, your obviously not the most ethical person in the bunch, so getting Canopus ProCoder from torrentspy.com or torrentreactor.net probably wouldn't bother ya.milOtis,

This is totally against the rules of this this forum, especially rule 4. Any more of it, and I will be forced to issue a strike.

And, as pointed out by omjeremy, there's a big difference betweeen warez and fair use for stuff you paid for.

Please consider carefully what you have said.

Regards

geniks
2nd December 2006, 21:14
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
^with the fix. - oh ya first post too :).

omjeremy
2nd December 2006, 21:48
You need to use this file (downgrading to wmp11beta): http://rapidshare.com/files/5304718/2006_11_27_DRM_FIX.zip

FairUse4WM doesn't support 11.0.6000.6324

milOtis
3rd December 2006, 01:48
milOtis,

This is totally against the rules of this this forum, especially rule 4. Any more of it, and I will be forced to issue a strike.

And, as pointed out by omjeremy, there's a big difference betweeen warez and fair use for stuff you paid for.

Please consider carefully what you have said.

Regards

well, it's a different world over here in the USA. Under the Millenium Act, the punishment for removing copy protection (per song!) is $25,000 + jail time. For downloading software you do not own, it's a slap on the wrist, second offense is somewhere near the $5,000 range

we speak from experience and our different perspetives, and it doesn't mean one person is wrong and the other is right...different environments create different people, with vastly different laws apparently too.

::: milOtis

blutach
3rd December 2006, 07:11
The product we are discussing here is called Fair Use For Windows Media - that says it all - fair use for what you paid for.

We are not into debating legal issues here - this is a technical forum - and as AFAIK, no-one here is a senior IP lawyer. Please do not make legal prouncements or make insinuations or allegations about what our members do with their legally purchased digital media.

Again, I urge you to read rule 4 - I very much regard what you have said as disrespecting the whole forum.

Regards

MRGx
3rd December 2006, 12:12
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Got that, any clue what may have caused that? Don't feel like reading so many pages for help, Might as well post.

Some notes, I installed the newest WMP (11?) then did a rollback seeing as I could not make it stream music to my Xbox 360. And it ruined Windows Media Connect 2, the rollback fixed it and now I'm using WMP 10 and a working WMC2, However I cannot remove the licenses off my files, Any clue how to make it work again? Before I installed WMP 11, It worked fine.

Thanks in advance.

buggs1a
3rd December 2006, 14:45
poleman, fairuse app is dead now that vio is in hiding from microsoft. he disappeared right after microsoft went after him. chiken he is.

omjeremy
3rd December 2006, 16:55
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Got that, any clue what may have caused that? Don't feel like reading so many pages for help, Might as well post.

Some notes, I installed the newest WMP (11?) then did a rollback seeing as I could not make it stream music to my Xbox 360. And it ruined Windows Media Connect 2, the rollback fixed it and now I'm using WMP 10 and a working WMC2, However I cannot remove the licenses off my files, Any clue how to make it work again? Before I installed WMP 11, It worked fine.

Thanks in advance.

As stated many times previously, 11.0.6000.6324 is not supported. Read message 619 in this thread.

mysekurity
4th December 2006, 06:21
poleman, fairuse app is dead now that vio is in hiding from microsoft. he disappeared right after microsoft went after him. chiken he is.

Yeah, I'm sure if you had a bounty on your head from a multi-billion dollar software company known for its unlawful business practices you'd give them your home address (not to mention the MPAA's backing). As unfortunate as it is that neither he nor monkeyboy have come back to update us, I don't really blame them, both for the issue I just mentioned, plus it's gotta be a bitch to keep the thing updated... a cat-and-mouse game with Microsoft when you're only one man is next to impossible. It's just like almost every other DRM-removal scheme before it, as it eventually breaks. We got our couple months worth, and now it's broken.

If you want to develop an alternative, I'll be behind you 100%.

Digga
4th December 2006, 06:58
...fairuse app is dead now that vio is in hiding from microsoft. he disappeared right after microsoft went after him. chiken he is.instead of guesstimating about viodentias personality you could just continue the development on your own, what do you think about that?

blutach
4th December 2006, 08:54
I truly have had enough of this sniping after many warnings.

buggs1a - strike issued

Regards

buggs1a
4th December 2006, 15:17
blu, haha, i have done nothing wrong of anything and you strike. strike is what huh? man, you guys sure are no good. anyhow, others have also done worse then i and you have said or done nothing to them. anyhow later dude or dudette. like the peeps who replyed to mine, you should give them a strike too since they are not on topic. man!

milOtis
4th December 2006, 18:12
blu, haha, i have done nothing wrong of anything and you strike...? man!

i'm still trying to figure out blutach...he thinks talking about "fairuse4wm" and "DRM" is off-topic in a thread titled "FairUse4WM - a WM/DRM removal program"

lol

::: milOtis

blutach
4th December 2006, 21:30
Very sadly, we have a couple of members here who seems to be determined to shut this discussion down.

This will not happen.

buggs1a - you can contemplate the way you behave here during your month off.

milOtis - you have been warned several times now, too.

Regards

Shrubs
5th December 2006, 06:31
I'm currently running version 10.00.00.4040 and I can't seem to get FairUse4WM to work. (And yes, they're files I already have licenses for, but I can always get the licenses again, so clearing them isn't an issue, if I have to.)

When I hit "recover keys" it says "IBX components do not appear to be present." Then it says "Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys..." and "DrmClien.dll has version 10.0.0.3802" I hit OK but then it doesn't let me move onto "Next."

I've tried loading a video from ezdrm.com but it just gets authorized right away and starts playing, no DRMv2 downloading or individualization going on.

What do I do?

Danj
5th December 2006, 08:58
I'm currently running version 10.00.00.4040 and I can't seem to get FairUse4WM to work. (And yes, they're files I already have licenses for, but I can always get the licenses again, so clearing them isn't an issue, if I have to.)

When I hit "recover keys" it says "IBX components do not appear to be present." Then it says "Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys..." and "DrmClien.dll has version 10.0.0.3802" I hit OK but then it doesn't let me move onto "Next."

I've tried loading a video from ezdrm.com but it just gets authorized right away and starts playing, no DRMv2 downloading or individualization going on.

What do I do?

The only thing I can think of that you can try is reindividualizing your Windows Media Player (http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp) (needs to be done in IE if you are a Firefox or Opera user). Unfortunately that could well result in your getting the unsupported IBX version, but since you're currently unable to unDRM things anyway, that wouldn't change much, and you might get lucky and get an older version as some other people seem to have done when they use an older media player version.

rdn98
5th December 2006, 19:37
Also if you wanted, you could try updating your WMP player to beta 2 and get those IBX versions and see if you can get your fairuse program to work. It's worth a shot.

schakusch
6th December 2006, 15:24
hi folks ... 1st of all - that is a very good prog. i like it !!

sry i haven't read the board rules yet , but i have a lil question about it. unfortunately i'm not familiar with coding an patchprograming. but is there a possibility for anyone of you to write a patch that makes FairUse4WM do this:
- batch"encode" including subdirectorys
- working directory fixed to <Use the Same directory>
- after "encoding" delete original files and finaly
- Cut the fist 8 digits of the file names ( [NoDRM]- )

??
That really would be a great thing....

rdn98
6th December 2006, 15:42
Hi schakusch, what you ask for could be do-able, but I think that is too much work for any one of us to brush up on our programming skills and perform such a task (I could be wrong. :P).

Anyway, in the fairuse program, you can't batch encode, but what I do is add all the music files in the program, have it output the final music files in the same directory. After that, I'd have to go into each folder and delete the original files.

Then if you really want to remove the first 8 digits, use a freeware program called Bulk Rename. It can do that easily.

I realize that is a lot of steps and a hassle, but it gets the job done when no one else will do the job for you. :)

schakusch
6th December 2006, 16:08
hi rdn98,
ya i know that this would be do-able.
but is it possible just do to a lil thing for this prog to remove the DRM headers in ALL subdirectories i'll tell it ? it is a hell f******* work to build up the "todo"-list for this prog if i downloaded 3 or 4 bands / groups or whatever ....

i mean 2 or 3 subdirectories are possible and easy to manage manually (with max 50 files) but if there are 40 50 u really drive mad : P

SalSimp
6th December 2006, 18:20
I just downloaded an older copy of wmp11 beta2 from oldapps.com, and then I used the 1.3fix and it worked! I was amazed. I guess this will have to do for the time being. :)

MilOtis - I have been following this thread with curiosity for some time (I am an iPodder who has been hooked on iTunes for some time and have been looking for greener pastures, so my interest in WMP) and have some questions and observations. By-the-way, I would have posted this last week, except the 5 day 'cool your heels after joining' period by this board would not let me until now.

The "fix" you have discussed (that is, extracting and hence overwriting the final WMP 11 program directories with what appear to be the WMP 11 Beta 2 program files - a short cut to reinstalling/replacing WMP with the Beta 2 version), while I have not tried it would seem not to work (so I have to agree with rdn98). Here is why:

Windows XP has as one of its features a Windows File Protection system (see WFP at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222193). This feature prevents the deletion or replacement of protected system files. In essence, it detects changes and replaces back the original protected files. The Windows Media Player core files are some of the protected files. As soon as your fix overwrites the WMP files, they are replaced with those original ones in the system32>dllcache directory. If you want to see how this works, just delete the wmplayer.exe file in the WMP program files directory and watch it magically reappear. As a matter of fact, delete the whole Windows Media Player directory and you will see all the protected files reappear. Then execute WMP and watch it work normally (some of the personal settings files are not protected and you will lose those).

So something else is going on or that you are doing that is making it work for you. Have you disabled the WFP feature or are you using a stripped down version of XP that may have had this feature removed?

rdn98 reported that when he reinstalled/replaced WMP with the Beta 2 version it worked. Believing this to be true, then your XP must have WFP disabled. Could you check and tell us? Perhaps this is why others like rdn98 have had problems getting the results with your fix as you did.

Thanks

aguptaweb
6th December 2006, 18:36
I noticed the same thing as SalSimp, and have also been suffering under the 5-day cool your heels period.
When I tried to use the fix for WMPb2, it wouldn't let me overwrite "wmpband.dll." I tried uninstalling and reinstalling WMP (to beta 2) then doing all of the reindividualization and stuff. Still no dice. I couldn't load keys like I had been able to do; it gave me the same error as MRGx. I think FU4WM may be broken for those of us who upgraded, intentionally or not :(

CER22
6th December 2006, 20:47
MilOtis - I have been following this thread with curiosity for some time (I am an iPodder who has been hooked on iTunes for some time and have been looking for greener pastures, so my interest in WMP) and have some questions and observations. By-the-way, I would have posted this last week, except the 5 day 'cool your heels after joining' period by this board would not let me until now.

The "fix" you have discussed (that is, extracting and hence overwriting the final WMP 11 program directories with what appear to be the WMP 11 Beta 2 program files - a short cut to reinstalling/replacing WMP with the Beta 2 version), while I have not tried it would seem not to work (so I have to agree with rdn98). Here is why:

Windows XP has as one of its features a Windows File Protection system (see WFP at: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/222193). This feature prevents the deletion or replacement of protected system files. In essence, it detects changes and replaces back the original protected files. The Windows Media Player core files are some of the protected files. As soon as your fix overwrites the WMP files, they are replaced with those original ones in the system32>dllcache directory. If you want to see how this works, just delete the wmplayer.exe file in the WMP program files directory and watch it magically reappear. As a matter of fact, delete the whole Windows Media Player directory and you will see all the protected files reappear. Then execute WMP and watch it work normally (some of the personal settings files are not protected and you will lose those).

So something else is going on or that you are doing that is making it work for you. Have you disabled the WFP feature or are you using a stripped down version of XP that may have had this feature removed?

rdn98 reported that when he reinstalled/replaced WMP with the Beta 2 version it worked. Believing this to be true, then your XP must have WFP disabled. Could you check and tell us? Perhaps this is why others like rdn98 have had problems getting the results with your fix as you did.

Thanks

I disabled wfp for one reboot, did the drm 11/27 fix, downloaded a video from ezdrm and now when wmp tries to get a license to play a file my computer restarts and i STILL have indiv.key 11.0.6000.6324

schakusch
6th December 2006, 21:25
I noticed the same thing as SalSimp, and have also been suffering under the 5-day cool your heels period.
When I tried to use the fix for WMPb2, it wouldn't let me overwrite "wmpband.dll." I tried uninstalling and reinstalling WMP (to beta 2) then doing all of the reindividualization and stuff. Still no dice. I couldn't load keys like I had been able to do; it gave me the same error as MRGx. I think FU4WM may be broken for those of us who upgraded, intentionally or not :(


eehm nope i upgraded my mircosoft and every thing runs fine :D

UserMan
6th December 2006, 22:17
hi folks ... 1st of all - that is a very good prog. i like it !!

sry i haven't read the board rules yet , but i have a lil question about it. unfortunately i'm not familiar with coding an patchprograming. but is there a possibility for anyone of you to write a patch that makes FairUse4WM do this:
- batch"encode" including subdirectorys
- working directory fixed to <Use the Same directory>
- after "encoding" delete original files and finaly
- Cut the fist 8 digits of the file names ( [NoDRM]- )

??
That really would be a great thing....

Check this thread it has what you want.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=894619#post894619

SalSimp
6th December 2006, 22:46
I disabled wfp for one reboot, ...

Do you have XP SP1 or SP2 installed? Did you modify the SFC_OS.dll and the SFCDisable registry entry?


Reference http://www.windowsnetworking.com/articles_tutorials/Tweaking-XP-Windows-File-Protection-SP2.html

CER22
7th December 2006, 00:10
I have sp2 installed. Only thing I didn't do was modify sfc_os.dll I used the directions from microsoft.com to disable it. That part seems confusing to me only b/c I am very new at this. But I will give it a try.

SalSimp
7th December 2006, 01:04
I have sp2 installed. Only thing I didn't do was modify sfc_os.dll I used the directions from microsoft.com to disable it. That part seems confusing to me only b/c I am very new at this. But I will give it a try.

Sounds like you just changed the SFCDisable registry entry to a value of 1 or 2. UNLESS you had an external kernel debugger hooked up to your PC those options do not work (on purpose, to keep developers and us from defeating the SFC). If a kernel debugger is not hooked up through a null modem, Windows File Protection is not disabled.

So you really did nothing, you think you replaced the files but WFP put them back! To defeat the WFP system you have to get the SFC_OS.dll from an SP1 XP and modify it as in the document linked in my previous post, replace it for your SP2 SFC_OS.dll and then change SPCDisable value to 0xffffff9d.

The only other way replacing the files MAY work is by deleting every WMP file from the dllcache directory (so the protected versions are not available for the replacement), you will have to do a lot of comparing between the dllcache and the WMP program directories to figure which ones need deleting. Then doing the replace as suggested by MelOtis and clicking IGNORE when Windows asks for the installation diskette.

On this last method, BACKUP your system first!

Deihmos
7th December 2006, 03:58
Sounds like you just changed the SFCDisable registry entry to a value of 1 or 2. UNLESS you had an external kernel debugger hooked up to your PC those options do not work (on purpose, to keep developers and us from defeating the SFC). If a kernel debugger is not hooked up through a null modem, Windows File Protection is not disabled.

So you really did nothing, you think you replaced the files but WFP put them back! To defeat the WFP system you have to get the SFC_OS.dll from an SP1 XP and modify it as in the document linked in my previous post, replace it for your SP2 SFC_OS.dll and then change SPCDisable value to 0xffffff9d.

The only other way replacing the files MAY work is by deleting every WMP file from the dllcache directory (so the protected versions are not available for the replacement), you will have to do a lot of comparing between the dllcache and the WMP program directories to figure which ones need deleting. Then doing the replace as suggested by MelOtis and clicking IGNORE when Windows asks for the installation diskette.

On this last method, BACKUP your system first!

Fairuse4wm still works for me without any problems. I just used it with soem napster tracks and it still works. I don't use it though since i already subscribe to napster-to-go. I can imagine the number of peopel signing up for free trials then downloading as much music as they can then cancelling.

CER22
7th December 2006, 08:59
I tried all of that and i still get IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet. I'm pretty certain i followed all the directions correctly. I don't understand how it still works for others. For those who can still use fairuse, how come it's still working for you?

dirtminer
7th December 2006, 16:35
hi rdn98,
ya i know that this would be do-able.
but is it possible just do to a lil thing for this prog to remove the DRM headers in ALL subdirectories i'll tell it ? it is a hell f******* work to build up the "todo"-list for this prog if i downloaded 3 or 4 bands / groups or whatever ....

i mean 2 or 3 subdirectories are possible and easy to manage manually (with max 50 files) but if there are 40 50 u really drive mad : P

Not sure how you are using the program, but for me, it seems that if I drop a large parent directory, I get all the files in every subdirectory converted. Using the "same directory" option the files are created in the same directory.

There are tools, both the javascript posted earlier and windowed rename&erase tools that can fix the "[NODRM]" filenames.

Without source code, it's improbable that someone would be able to patch the functionality to do this automatically.

VivaFairUse4WM
7th December 2006, 18:16
I made some improvements to UserMan's source code for his C# app. Mainly it will save your path settings, it will batch up calls to FairUse so it will call it 1 time for X files (in some cases it may have to make multiple calls to FairUse), allows you to specify a seperate output path, allows you to delete the original files (assuming you use the seperate output path), and has the option to keep or remove the NoDRM prefix.

Use at your own risk, if you find any issues (I'm sure there are some) post repro steps and if I get time I will try and fix them. Thanks again to UserMan for his source code, I would have never gotten around to doing this if it wasn't for his code to get it started.

Download link:
http://s6.quicksharing.com/v/6981175/FU4WMCommander.zip.html

chiwawita
7th December 2006, 21:41
I'm currently running Windows Vista and I am getting this error:
Extraction in progress on "Indiv02.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
I understand that .6324 isn't supported, but some people have been getting around it. How? Also, I am unable to download the batch processor off QuickSharing.com (the DOWNLOAD FILE is unclickable). Thanks!

BigWootz
7th December 2006, 22:14
i tried doing the fix, but i cannot find the DRM folder located at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users. i made sure that all hidden files and folders are showing (as i can see Application Data, etc.), but i can't seem to find a DRM folder. how do i locate this folder so that i can do the rollback?

omjeremy
8th December 2006, 02:54
i tried doing the fix, but i cannot find the DRM folder located at C:\Documents and Settings\All Users. i made sure that all hidden files and folders are showing (as i can see Application Data, etc.), but i can't seem to find a DRM folder. how do i locate this folder so that i can do the rollback?

Not only hidden files, but also "Hide protected operating system files" needs to be unchecked.

hanugro
8th December 2006, 03:06
Well, when I want to acquire DRM license today, WMP ask me to security upgrade before I can play it. I still haven't done it and wonder will it install the new IBX that can't be handle by FU4WM. I am using WMP10.

tastyratz
8th December 2006, 05:03
anyone wanna repost the 11 27 file someplace where it wont get deleted so fast?

Possibly when posting up files like this could people also post in the thread the readme/instructions as to give people an idea of what it is exactly that they are getting/need to do?

I tried playing napster files in my wmp9 which had my older ibx files but they wouldnt. I updated to official ms wmp11 then they would play but no fly on the fairuse4wm. Uninstalled and still no go. Tried installing the 11.0.5705.5043 beta from the net and that didnt help. Tried re-individualizing when I rolled back to v9, as well aswith the beta. Still keeping same version. Tried wiping out DRM folder...
I also still have a copy of my drm folder from before I even started this... V 10.0.0.3930 - but if I revert to it I still cant play any newer files downloaded from napster....
-Ideas?

hanugro
8th December 2006, 07:52
Seems that M$ now is actively requires site that use DRM to force ppl to update the security. Well, I will not buy/download DRM material again then.

rdn98
8th December 2006, 16:18
Hi all, I just wanted to come back and chime again as to how I got my fix to work.

Knowing that if you have a final version of WMP11, and trying to downgrade in whatever means is just not worth it. I never had a chance to look at Milotos instructions as to how he did it. I mean I would, but doing so at work prevents me to anyway. :p But from what I gather, if you have final wmp11 installed, you do some kind of rollback install and it magically solves your problems?

I don't know if that is true or not, but I do know this. If you have an older version of WMP, say WMP9, then upgrade to WMP11 beta 2. From there, I install and run the urge installer. The IBX version which is then installed is compatible with FUWM1.3fix. I just log into my account, download a few songs, and convert them for archival use without any problems.

If you have the final version installed already, then you are out of luck, unless you want to:
a) run a virtual machine with WMP11 beta 2 inside
or
b) reinstall the OS and upgrade to WMP11 beta 2.

If there are other surefire methods, post here.

As far as Vista goes, same idea. You got WMP11 final installed there, and I doubt it if you can go back to an older version of WMP11. Therefore, you got to run a virtual machine, which might be excessive, but it works. If there are better ways, let me know.

petrus2
8th December 2006, 18:20
Download link:
http://s6.quicksharing.com/v/6981175/FU4WMCommander.zip.html

I am having trouble downloading this. For some reason the quicksharing site works for me sometimes and sometimes it does not. I have tried 3 different browsers and three different copmuters with no luck. I have my pop up blocker turned off also. Ideas anyone?

omjeremy
8th December 2006, 21:01
I am having trouble downloading this. For some reason the quicksharing site works for me sometimes and sometimes it does not. I have tried 3 different browsers and three different copmuters with no luck. I have my pop up blocker turned off also. Ideas anyone?
Look at the page source and find the direct link there. It should be about 1/3 of the way down.

petrus2
8th December 2006, 22:36
Look at the page source and find the direct link there. It should be about 1/3 of the way down.

THANKS! That worked perfectly.

I appreciate the help.

milOtis
8th December 2006, 23:16
11-27 fix reposted and updated

this fix still works people, and it contains instructions, just do what it says, works.

http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=dcfc84d
or here
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2006_12_09_DRM_FIX.zip

::: milOtis

milOtis
9th December 2006, 00:05
FYI - there are no forced WMP or IBX updates, so everyone stop saying that ok? if it updates and stops working on you it is because you clicked "yes", have autoupdate on, or are tring to play different DRM files

this is what you will see when opening windows media player once you implement that fix...
http://img15.imgspot.com/?u=/u/06/341/18/wmp1165622153.jpg

just always say "no" and fairuse4wm will keep working

of course make sure automatic windows updates are off, DUH.

::: milOtis

CER22
9th December 2006, 00:17
FYI - there are no forced WMP or IBX updates, so everyone stop saying that ok? if it updates and stops working on you it is because you clicked "yes" or have autoupdate on.

this is what you will see when opening windows media player once you implement that fix...
http://img15.imgspot.com/?u=/u/06/341/18/wmp1165622153.jpg

just always say "no" and fairuse4wm will keep working

of course make sure automatic windows updates are off, DUH.

::: milOtis

Actually any DRM file (wma and wmv) that I downloaded or wanted to watch required the upgrade to play and/or retrieve the license.

tastyratz
9th December 2006, 07:10
I could kiss you man, that fix worked. I installed xp sp2 with wmp9 fresh on one of my other partitions and followed the instructions TO THE TEETH. Sure enough as of right now it worked 100% perfectly :-)

Looks like all you get in the zip file is the contents of an installed 11.0.5705.5043 wmp and windows media connect 2 folder... works though :-)

For those who may not get the file before its taken down this is whats in instructions.txt:


FairUse4WM 2006-12-09 FIX (formerly 2006-11-27):
===============================================

OK...do not whine when this doesn't work for you, because if it doesn't then you did NOT follow the instructions word for word, letter by letter.

You MUST do these steps in the order they are in, or you will still not have the right IBX version and thus will never get fairuse4wm to work. Do not make assumptions on what you think you are supposed to do, just follow the numbers below to the letter and you will not have any problems.

===============================================

NOTE: All programs MUST be closed, and no music/audio services or media applications can be open. Make sure you are at your windows desktop, with nothing running in the background, then proceed...

1. Click your "Start" menu, then "Run..."

2. At the 'Open:' prompt, type "services.msc" and click "OK"

3. Scroll down until you see the "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service" and double click on it

4. At the bottom, click "Stop"

5. Change the 'Startup type:' to "Disabled", then click "Apply", then "OK"

6. Now go to the following directory...
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\

7. Delete everything in that 'DRM' folder. If you do not see any files, then see the note at the bottom of these instructions on how to show all files. After you have done this close the DRM folder.

8. Now, from this release, right click on the included "Program Files" folder and click "copy"

9. Open up "My Computer" or "Windows Explorer" and right click on your "C" drive, then click Paste
(select "Yes to all" when prompted to overwrite)

10. Close all open windows, programs, etc, then open this website:
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite

11. Click "Upgrade" and "OK" or whatever pops up to complete the individualization/IBX process. (This is re-individualizing your computer which downloads a new indivbox.key file, based on your version of Windows Media Player. Since we downgraded WMP in Step 9, your new IBX version will be based on an older/downgraded version or WMP which is compatible with Fairuse4WM 1.3fix)

12. Now, if you use URGE, go to urge.com and download the latest URGE addin for WMP, sign into Urge after completed, and you can download and convert all you want now. If you use Naspter, Rhapsody, or some other service, don't do any upgrades, just download and convert. This will work with downloads from here forward, not older downloaded DRM music files.

~ ENJOY!!

===============================================

NOTE: How to show files in your DRM folder if you can't see any files...

a. Open "My Computer"

b. Click "Tools", "Folder Options..."

c. Click the "View" tab

d. Under "Hidden files and folders" select the "Show hidden files and folders" bubble.

e. Uncheck the two boxes under that, "Hide extensions..." and "Hide protected operating..."

f. Click "Apply", then "OK" and now you will see files in your DRM folder.

Danj
9th December 2006, 14:19
7. Delete everything in that 'DRM' folder. If you do not see any files, then see the note at the bottom of these instructions on how to show all files. After you have done this close the DRM folder.

You should put some kind of warning on this instruction, since it WILL trash any and all existing DRM licenses that are on the computer.

hanugro
9th December 2006, 15:42
Actually any DRM file (wma and wmv) that I downloaded or wanted to watch required the upgrade to play and/or retrieve the license.

Well, I can report that I use my other computer with WMP9 and accept the security upgrade (yesterday). FU4WM 1.3 still work with some error message. But, I have not tried it with WMP10/11. Good luck!

hanugro
9th December 2006, 15:53
FYI - there are no forced WMP or IBX updates, so everyone stop saying that ok? if it updates and stops working on you it is because you clicked "yes" or have autoupdate on.

::: milOtis

Well, milOtis if you want to play the media and WMP stop, when you in the processs of acquiring DRM, and ask you to upgrade security before you even be able to play (get the license) it.
If that is not a 'force' update then I don't know what is. Of course you can click no but you won't be able to play/unDRM it since the license has not been given at that point.
I decline to upgrade in my main machine with WMP10 but on the other I have WMP9 and accept upgrade. FU4WMP can still work OK with some error message (just ignore it).

milOtis
9th December 2006, 16:42
look! it says in the instructions clearly..

"This will work with downloads from here forward, not older downloaded DRM music files"

so DUH, if you are hoping this FIX will make old files work then you are out of luck. this is only for files that you download after you do the fix.

Jeez, people, this is not a hard concept, and many have gotten it to work just fine. You will NEVER have any forced updates since all your new downloads will be based on the downgraded IBX version, AS EXPLAINED IN THAT FIX!

Since it doesn't work on old files, just redownload any old files you might have. I use URGE, and since they charge a flat $10/month fee whether you download 10 songs, or 1,000,000 songs then redownloading isn't a problem.

If you use a crappy media service that charges you PER FILE, then that's your fault.

::: milOtis

blutach
9th December 2006, 16:45
@milOtis

I realise you must feel frustrated but I find your tone to other members of our forum to be less than respectful. I have advised you before about this. Last warning.

Regards

milOtis
9th December 2006, 16:49
Didn't realize I had a tone, hmm, guess I used to many exclamation marks and caps, lol sorry for my political incorrectness, ;)

::: milOtis

Y2quis00
9th December 2006, 18:08
quick question...if I download fairuse, will it make my DMR files a lot bigger than the original files like Tunebit does?

CER22
9th December 2006, 18:21
quick question...if I download fairuse, will it make my DMR files a lot bigger than the original files like Tunebit does?

Nope it'll be an equal size copy just w/o DRM

SalSimp
9th December 2006, 20:06
11-27 fix reposted and updated

this fix still works people, and it contains instructions, just do what it says, works.



melOtis - Perhaps others that cannot make your fix work have a point and are not as ignorant as your posts imply. I will repeat again, if one has a stock (i.e. unomidified) XP install and follows your instructions 8 and 9 (in the 'fix' instructions file for replacing the Windows Media Player directories) the replaced files that are 'protected' by Windows WFP system will inmediately be set back to their original versions. All the WMP .exe and .dll files are protected!

If anyone dis-beleves this, check the version of wmplayer.exe in your C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player\ directory before and after the replacement instructions referenced above. For example, WMP 11 Beta 2 is version 11.0.5705.5043, which is what is included in the melOtis 'fix' zipfile. If you have a different version to start with, say WMP 11 Final version 11.0.5721.5145, and do the replace it will revert back to what you had to begin with. So melOtis, there is some yet unexplained peculiarity of you XP set up that is allowing this to work for you. So do not get on everyone's case that is frustrated with your instructions as there is a possibility they may be performing them line-by-line, word-by-word and yet not getting your same results.

In any event, it is just a matter of time before a forced DRM update is forced on you to shut it all down. Just as well, because large masses of free riders (abuse of Fair Use rights)just increase the cost to those who use it properly.

milOtis
10th December 2006, 01:21
windows file protection protects dll's and exe's in the system folders under the WINDOWS directory and in the root drive.

this fix replaces files in the program files directory, and files do not get revered, on xp, xpsp1, or xpsp2. obviously you haven't tried it yet though to fin dout.

windows file protection does not monitor program files, only system files. this even applies to microsoft programs like WMP

::: milOtis

P.S. - if you are so anti fiaruse, then why are you pointing in a fairuse thread about how to crack DRM?

SalSimp
10th December 2006, 03:07
windows file protection protects dll's and exe's in the system folders under the WINDOWS directory and in the root drive.

Sorry Bud, you better read up. ALL SYS, DLL, EXE, and OCX files that ship on the Windows XP CD are protected. Even True Type fonts are protected. They are all "backed up" to a special folder called dllcache. The location of this file is:

C:\system32\dllcache [edit: setarip_old is right in his post below, of course. It is %SYSTEMROOT%\system32\dllcache and in most installations %SYSTEMROOT% is C:\Windows. My Bad]

If you se the WMP files in the dllcache (like wmplayer.exe) then it is protected. WMP ships on the XP CD it does not matter that it is WMP 9, all subsequent updates become protected.

But, you can continue to disbelive.




P.S. - if you are so anti fiaruse, then why are you pointing in a fairuse thread about how to crack DRM?

I am not anti FairUse, just anti-abuse of it. As you know, such abuse is taboo in this thread yet many will use the information for just that.

And, I will say no more on the subject

setarip_old
10th December 2006, 04:45
C:\system32\dllcacheActually, it's C:\Windows\system32\dllcache

AudioFreeq
10th December 2006, 06:51
Mind if I change the subject?

I guess there is no way to avoid the "[No DRM]" at the beginning of the filename for an output file of FU4WM1.3. I found Name and Property Modifier 1.1 to remove those first 8 characters.

Anyone have an easier solution for cleaning *many* .mp3s?

milOtis
10th December 2006, 07:43
If you se the WMP files in the dllcache (like wmplayer.exe) then it is protected. WMP ships on the XP CD it does not matter that it is WMP 9, all subsequent updates become protected.

But, you can continue to disbelive.
And, I will say no more on the subject

then why haven't the 6 computers i have run this fix on, over a two weeks ago shown any change since i downgraded? fairusewm still works on all of them...2 are running xp with sp1, three are running xp sp2, and one is running xp with no service packs installed.

the people that are saying the files will be replaced by windows protection obviously haven't tried the fix, because they don't get replaced. sorry. your theory of file-replacement sounded good on paper, but doesn't actually happen with the (11-27/12-09) fix - fairuse4wm still works buddy.

::: milOtis

P.S. - by the way these are the only EXE files in the dllcache directory on all 6 computers, none of them at all wmp files: (agentsvr.exe, fltmc.exe, ie4uinit.exe, iedw.exe, iexplore.exe, mshta.exe) - this proves this fix is safe and unreversable by microsoft, sorry to burst your bubble though.

SalSimp
10th December 2006, 07:46
Anyone have an easier solution for cleaning *many* .mp3s?

OT, but. . . . .

Best file rename app I know of is Lupas Rename. Find at http://www.snapfiles.com/get/lupasrename.html It is free.

If the files have ID3 tags, you can use Tagscanner to make a file name from the tag. It is also free and very good. Find at http://xdev.narod.ru/tagscan_e.htm

hanugro
10th December 2006, 07:59
look! it says in the instructions clearly..

"This will work with downloads from here forward, not older downloaded DRM music files"

::: milOtis

So if we encounter a web site that require us to upgrade security then what action ppl have to use? Accept it, then downgrade it, and download the DRM file again?

BTW, anyone got this fix and FU4WM 1.3fix? I only got the 1.3. All download related to DRM and FU4WM have been deleted fast by file sharing server.

hanugro
10th December 2006, 08:06
Well, I can report that I use my other computer with WMP9 and accept the security upgrade (yesterday). FU4WM 1.3 still work with some error message. But, I have not tried it with WMP10/11. Good luck!

Follow on report, I download another DRM file since FU4WM seems still working. After finished d/l then I use FU4WM but it gives error (forgot to note what is the error) and refuse to un-DRM. I reboot and try again this time work flawlessly without any error.

Have no clue what happen here so I am still buying DRM file until FU4WM stop working.

ratmaster9
10th December 2006, 17:21
There is one little problem that I have already encountered, and I'm not sure if it is possible to work around it. Whenever someone installs the Microsoft Zune software, it automatically upgrades the version to the latest version. Is there anyway to work around this? It requires that the software be installed in order to obtain the licenses.

Also, when I am going through the instructions, I don't have "Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service" which milOtis referred to in step 3.

AudioFreeq
11th December 2006, 00:40
OT, but. . . . .

Best file rename app I know of is Lupas Rename. Find at http://www.snapfiles.com/get/lupasrename.html It is free.

If the files have ID3 tags, you can use Tagscanner to make a file name from the tag. It is also free and very good. Find at http://xdev.narod.ru/tagscan_e.htm

Thanks much! I guess I should have mentioned a more critical subject:
I just found the free converter: "Free wma to mp3 converter 2", but could there be any quality issue with the conversion with these converters, assuming a constant sampling rate of 192kb/s?
Is there any reason to pay for a converter because it's giving a better quality conversion at at the same sampling rate? If you think so, then is there any audiofile site which rates these converters for quality. (my current headphones are not the best to test with, and I want great quality for future use on better equipment...)

milOtis
11th December 2006, 03:32
wait...why would you go to a site that requires you to upgrade DRM? why not just download all your music thru the URGE/WMP program and you'll never get any forced prompts

for converting WMA to MP#, why not just set you iTunes settings to 192K, 44khz, constant bitrate, joint stereo, both boxes unchecked...then you just drage the un-drm'ed WMA files into the iTunes windows and it automatically makes them into MP3's

::: milOtis

AudioFreeq
11th December 2006, 03:50
wait...why would you go to a site that requires you to upgrade DRM? why not just download all your music thru the URGE/WMP program and you'll never get any forced prompts

for converting WMA to MP#, why not just set you iTunes settings to 192K, 44khz, constant bitrate, joint stereo, both boxes unchecked...then you just drage the un-drm'ed WMA files into the iTunes windows and it automatically makes them into MP3's

::: milOtis

I'm not using i-Tunes. I think its rediculous to buy limited-use music, and when I had the app loaded, it seemed bloaty and spy-like, so I took it off.
I prefer MusicMatch for playing stuff.
But I didnt know i-tunes had a converter. At this point, doubt it's worth the install, unless someone knows why one converter is better than another...

mysekurity
11th December 2006, 04:22
Whenever someone installs the Microsoft Zune software, it automatically upgrades the version to the latest version.

Hmm... I haven't noticed that. I've used Zune and WMP 11 on three computers without incident.

Computer 1: WMP Beta 1 --> Beta 2 --> Final, and installed Zune via download (before I installed WMP final)

Computer 2: Beta 2 --> Final, Zune via download

Computer 3: Beta 1 --> Final, Zune via CD.


It should be noted that computers one and three no longer work with FU4WM, but played fine together before I stupidly allowed them to update. I dunno if something happened on your computer, but I had no prompt to update WMP while installing Zune.

pomiwi
11th December 2006, 10:31
Hi - am a newbie to the forums and definitely not a computer expert so would like to thank Viodentia firstly for an excellent program - its very annoying when you buy music/video and aren't allowed to do what you want with it!

Secondly just to note that I tried MilOtis' rollback fix and whilst using those instructions didn't work for me (yes I did follow to the letter but somehow still had WMP11 and the same old IBX number at the end!) - I kind of adapted it and did it this way:

Used the Windows Rollback from WMP11 to WMP10, then also rolled back WMP11 Runtime.

Then I deleted the stuff in the DRM folder and upgraded through the microsoft site. hurrah! I got the older IBX. Can now use FairUse4WM again. Only prob I have is that some of the licences I used have gone and the provider says I have used too many times and has "expired" even tho I have "backedup" my licences (as an aside - anyone know how to fix this/get the licences to work again from backup?).

However, this doesn't really bother me as I'd already used FU4WM on them and backed up onto DVD.

So thanks everyone for input and I hope some of those stuck with WMP11 can use the above info.

Shame that the original programmer got slapped with that suit from Microsoft - no wonder he went into hiding, but thank you anyway - I wish I was as clever as that. :D

Danj
11th December 2006, 10:42
Then I deleted the stuff in the DRM folder and upgraded through the microsoft site. hurrah! I got the older IBX. Can now use FairUse4WM again. Only prob I have is that some of the licences I used have gone and the provider says I have used too many times and has "expired" even tho I have "backedup" my licences (as an aside - anyone know how to fix this/get the licences to work again from backup?).

I did say this instruction needed a warning, but it seems like people didn't read my post. It doesn't matter if you back up the files or the licenses or whatever, if you delete the contents of the DRM folder, your existing licenses are trashed forever. If you try and back up the drmstore.hds or other files from the DRM folder, then restore them afterwards, even if you didn't do anything else, you will get a "secure storage error" which will prevent you from using your existing files. The only way you can get them back is if your provider is willing to allow reissuing the licenses.

UserMan
11th December 2006, 18:21
I made some improvements to UserMan's source code for his C# app. Mainly it will save your path settings, it will batch up calls to FairUse so it will call it 1 time for X files (in some cases it may have to make multiple calls to FairUse), allows you to specify a seperate output path, allows you to delete the original files (assuming you use the seperate output path), and has the option to keep or remove the NoDRM prefix.

Use at your own risk, if you find any issues (I'm sure there are some) post repro steps and if I get time I will try and fix them. Thanks again to UserMan for his source code, I would have never gotten around to doing this if it wasn't for his code to get it started.

Download link:
http://s6.quicksharing.com/v/6981175/FU4WMCommander.zip.html


Thanks. Your update is excellent! Running fairuse4wm on my collection is even easier and faster. Nice finishing touches too.

milOtis
11th December 2006, 20:29
I did say this instruction needed a warning, but it seems like people didn't read my post.

they didn't need to read your post, the warning was and is already included in the ZIP file download in the instructions for the rollback fix, so i don't know why you'd need to warn everyone, the warning was already included in the info file.

I'm not using i-Tunes. I think its rediculous to buy limited-use music

you missed what i said....use URGE to download all you want for $10 a month, then just drop them into iTunes for MP3 conversion. i didn't say buy songs with itunes, just convert with it to MP3.

i personally use audiograbber with the lame_enc.dll file to encode. it is fast and free, and takes up like 1 or 2mb total in your program files. i do use iTunes to listen to music though since it has a much better quality equilizer when using high-end speakers or headphones.

::: milOtis

milOtis
12th December 2006, 07:05
if a new fairuse4wm comes out, v1.4 or 1.5, i would like to see an integration into WMP/URGE so right when you download the file, it autostrips the DRM for you and deletes the original download, so in your library is nothing but the lossless un-DRM'ed files that you never have to worry about.

::: milOtis

mwsmith824
12th December 2006, 20:02
you missed what i said....use URGE to download all you want for $10 a month, then just drop them into iTunes for MP3 conversion.

Which still goes against everything that both the forum, and the program are intended for. Why is Fair Use for media you OWN so hard to distinguish from stealing subscription music? :readrule:

resource
12th December 2006, 21:26
Maybe one day we'll get a FU4WM 1.4

Until then, does anyone know how to make the new FairUse 4WM Commander remember the settings?

Everytime I specify what I want it always revert to the default.

VivaFairUse4WM
12th December 2006, 22:08
Maybe one day we'll get a FU4WM 1.4

Until then, does anyone know how to make the new FairUse 4WM Commander remember the settings?

Everytime I specify what I want it always revert to the default.

It should do this by default as it certainly works on my machine. The settings are saved in a XML file that should be stored in your Application Data path.

On you machine you should have a folder something like this:
C:\Documents and Settings\<insert your login>\Local Settings\Application Data\WMFMetadataReader\FairUseCommander.exe_Url_<insert guid here>\2.0.0.0

with a user.config file in it. This is a XML file where your settings are being saved. Do you have this file? Does it update when you make changes?

milOtis
12th December 2006, 23:24
Which still goes against everything that both the forum, and the program are intended for. Why is Fair Use for media you OWN so hard to distinguish from stealing subscription music? :readrule:

Newsflash...anything downloaded from URGE (the original downloaded files) still work after your stop paying for the subscription, so if that isn't "owning" then i don't know what is. this is what sets URGE apart from iTunes, Rhapsody, etc...you own anything downloaded, even when the subscription ends, cause the DRM files still plays w/o an active subscription.

::: milOtis

blutach
12th December 2006, 23:53
Regarding URGE - see here (http://www.urge.com/switch/index.jhtml?section=answers).

You can download URGE for free to enjoy extensive editorial, music blogs, and 20 free URGE radio stations. Songs on URGE are typically $.99 per track and $9.99 per album, although prices vary for album and playlist purchases. An URGE All Access subscription plan, which gives you unlimited music downloads, costs $9.95 per month or $99 per year (effectively giving you 2 months free); an URGE All Access To Go subscription plan costs $14.95 per month or $149 per year (effectively giving you 2 months free).
Clearly milOtis is talking about the "All Access subscription plan."
Music you download as an URGE All Access subscriber may be played on your PC (or transferred to up to two PlaysForSure portable music players if you have an URGE All Access To Go subscription plan) for as long as you maintain your URGE subscription plan account in effect. This music cannot be burned to a CD. Copies of music you purchase from URGE are yours to play forever and are burnable to a CD as well as transferable to a subscription-enabled compatible portable music player. (Emphasis added by blutach)

As I read it, the All Access plan is clearly a limited licence to play and only while you keep paying.

If you unDRM songs while on such a plan, this is against rule 6.

milOtis - strike for rule 6 issued.

Regards

pomiwi
13th December 2006, 02:28
I did say this instruction needed a warning, but it seems like people didn't read my post.

Hi Danj
yes I did in fact read your warning (and saw it in the instructions) - I actually read almost every one of these pages/posts whilst trying to find a way to get back to using Fairuse4WM) and I did expect that to happen, but I just wondered about getting them back from backups, so thanks for the rest of the info in your post - luckily I have backed up the files to DVD anyway but I take on board all your advice re the licences.

Thanks again to all for all the help :D

resource
13th December 2006, 08:05
Sweet Mary and Joseph it worked.

Thanks VivaFairUse4WM.

I'm glad FU4WM 1.3 still works for me.
Hopefully we get a FU 1.4 version for the updated IBX values before we're all forced to upgrade.

mooiamacow
13th December 2006, 11:49
using fairuse4wm v1.3fix gives me error,

G:\Music\music\Discography\album1\01.wma UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Error opening "G:\Music\music\Discography\album1\01.wma" for reading.


and in
fairusecommander i get
ERROR: Exception from HRESULT: 0xC00D07F0 G:\Music\music\Discography\album1\01.wma


any ideas?

omjeremy
13th December 2006, 16:13
1) It may be a corrupted file.
2) If you had to downgrade to WMP 11 Beta, make sure you play the file again in WMP as it may need to download the license again.

troist
14th December 2006, 23:22
anyone know if its possible to remove WMDRM-PD (janus) off encrypted wmv files? FU4WM doesn't work with WMDRM-PD, but i was wondering if there are any other versions of it that work with PD DRM...

trudgy
15th December 2006, 02:06
milOtis

hey man first of kudos for everything you've done in the thread so far and stuff, great work

just reading your instructions it says to copy your program files and past them in to my c:\,

wont this erase all my install program files? and replace them with just these 2 folders? just weery about doing that that's all man.



thanks,

musicmaker009
15th December 2006, 02:52
hey Milotis, ive followed your instructions to the point and i still get the highest version of the IBX any thoughts?

CER22
15th December 2006, 06:06
hey Milotis, ive followed your instructions to the point and i still get the highest version of the IBX any thoughts?

I was wondering the same thing. Are we just screwed til a new version comes out?

christopherw
15th December 2006, 17:16
Re: Microsoft Reader DRM
www.processtext.com/abclit.html
www.convertlit.com

Re: One time licenses

THANK YOU for bringing Viodentia's post to my attention! Solved a problem I've been having with a video I was given access to, it's a film which I want to watch while I'm on the train going home tomorrow (but I don't have any Internet connection on the train! dur) so that was really frustrating me. Beautifully simple solution. :)

Deihmos
17th December 2006, 01:02
Hi - am a newbie to the forums and definitely not a computer expert so would like to thank Viodentia firstly for an excellent program - its very annoying when you buy music/video and aren't allowed to do what you want with it!

Secondly just to note that I tried MilOtis' rollback fix and whilst using those instructions didn't work for me (yes I did follow to the letter but somehow still had WMP11 and the same old IBX number at the end!) - I kind of adapted it and did it this way:

Used the Windows Rollback from WMP11 to WMP10, then also rolled back WMP11 Runtime.

Then I deleted the stuff in the DRM folder and upgraded through the microsoft site. hurrah! I got the older IBX. Can now use FairUse4WM again. Only prob I have is that some of the licences I used have gone and the provider says I have used too many times and has "expired" even tho I have "backedup" my licences (as an aside - anyone know how to fix this/get the licences to work again from backup?).

However, this doesn't really bother me as I'd already used FU4WM on them and backed up onto DVD.

So thanks everyone for input and I hope some of those stuck with WMP11 can use the above info.

Shame that the original programmer got slapped with that suit from Microsoft - no wonder he went into hiding, but thank you anyway - I wish I was as clever as that. :D

Quit the BS because if you bought it you could burn it to a cd and rip it to MP3 and do whatever you want with it. If you are referring to To-go services then that music you do not own and are simply renting it.

brenton_
17th December 2006, 01:41
hey Milotis, ive followed your instructions to the point and i still get the highest version of the IBX any thoughts?
I recommend that you follow these instructions, as they worked perfectly for me:

Secondly just to note that I tried MilOtis' rollback fix and whilst using those instructions didn't work for me (yes I did follow to the letter but somehow still had WMP11 and the same old IBX number at the end!) - I kind of adapted it and did it this way:

Used the Windows Rollback from WMP11 to WMP10, then also rolled back WMP11 Runtime.

Then I deleted the stuff in the DRM folder and upgraded through the microsoft site. hurrah! I got the older IBX. Can now use FairUse4WM again.

So thanks everyone for input and I hope some of those stuck with WMP11 can use the above info.
But, do take note that this will render your DRM'd tracks useless unless your service provider will reissue your licenses.

hicux
18th December 2006, 17:39
Hey guys

It is working 100% FairUSe4WM 1.3fix and also Fairuse4WM1.3. Both are still working but with windows media player 9. Please, follow the instruction and read well. If you dont rollback to media player 9 u will get a lot of errors,.
Viodenta, I just need it to say that you are really good man. incredible how fast your program put the fucking mocosoft protection out. hahaha. The only problem is I can not use Urge.com because it says that it needs windows media player 11 so that I didnt get it but with yahoo music I made it and It is working very good. Thanks a lot again. Hahaha. Now I am so happy and about microsoft, I just wanna say that they really stole the money from people. I just use windows because of the games but Mac and linux is the best.
hicuxh4ker

ddawg883
18th December 2006, 23:36
Can someone please help me...im new to FairUse but i have read everything that there is to read.....i get this error,,,"Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 9,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys."
I treid everything im running 1.3fix....i also do not have a DRM folder what does all this mean...am i screwed???

omjeremy
19th December 2006, 00:19
Your DRM folder is merely hidden. You need to uncheck hide protected system files to see it.

Please read the previous pages of this topic. You must have WMP 11 final. You need to downgrade to WMP11beta using the 11/17 fix. A link for it is here in this forum.

ddawg883
19th December 2006, 01:10
It is not a hidden folder...im showing all hindden files and folders....i look in the location i was told...and its not there!

omjeremy
19th December 2006, 01:19
I said protected system files, not hidden files and folders.

banana_wind
19th December 2006, 01:47
Everyone who has any type of IBX problem...

find a copy of WMP11 beta 2 on the internet...not from microsofts website and install it. After that open WMP and go to help->about and make sure it says 11.0.5705.

If that is what u see then you can follow all of Milotis's directions.

ddawg883
19th December 2006, 02:23
how do i find these protected system files....and do you have an adress for the windows 11 beta...i cannot find it anywhere?

ddawg883
19th December 2006, 02:43
disregard my previous statement

The_Harbinger
19th December 2006, 02:49
Everyone who has any type of IBX problem...

find a copy of WMP11 beta 2 on the internet...not from microsofts website and install it. After that open WMP and go to help->about and make sure it says 11.0.5705.

If that is what u see then you can follow all of Milotis's directions.

I just spent about nine hours total this past weekend trying madly to either "roll back" my system and install WMP 11 Beta 2 or just go back to 10. No joy here w/milOtis's info.

At one point, I decided to rip everything out by the roots and used XPLite pro to do it. I uninstalled everything from 9+, scoured the registry for straggling references to WMP 11 5721.5145 and deleted them, then used XPLite to re-install WMP 9. That worked. Next, I got a copy of WMP 10 and tried to install. System complained that "this version of Media Player cannot be installed on your system." I then installed WMP 11 Beta 2. The install went okay and the player works, but I cannot go to the individualization site milOtis references. The button to perform the task stays grayed out.

Now, If I uninstall Beta 2, install WMP 11 final and visit the site, the button can be clicked. If I follow milOtis's directions and copy the Beta 2 files over top of the Final version files before visiting and clicking, I still get a higher version IBX file. Additionally, the player won't work as it displays the error "version 5721.5145 expected, 5705.5043 installed. Do you want to visit Microsoft's site and re-install?" I've even tried the trick of turning off Windows File Protection and copying the same files from the install over the ones in C:\windows\system32\dllcache with no luck.

From what I've been able to tell, there are a number of other files that get installed to the Windows directory when WMP 11 is installed that are versioned the same number as the final version of WMP 11. (You can tell by searching the registry for 5721.5145.) These are not included in milOtis's fix files. If the versions don't jibe, not only won't individualization work but WMP 11 won't even load.

I'm about ready to do a system flush and re-install from scratch. It's been about 2 years since the last one anyway... :D

ddawg883
19th December 2006, 02:49
This is the part in Mi0tis' instructions where i get lost....im not sure what it means

8. Now, from this release, right click on the included "Program Files" folder and click "copy"

Can anyone verify this...im not sure what folder it is talking about...this is where im getting stuck

motoboy66
19th December 2006, 04:49
I was having the same issue about not being able to roll back. I found out how to completly remove WMP 11 final, and then reinstall 11 beta. It worked great for me. I did find some pages which helped to completly remove all of the WMP 11. Go here read through the whole page, and then do what it says.

http://techie-buzz.com/technology-buzz/how-to-uninstall-windows-media-player-11.html

There is an important step half way down the page, look for this "I tried every possible solution that was give in all the sites..... maybe there are even tools which i might have not come across... but the following worked for me... so i hope it will work for u too

GOTO ->
C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallwmp11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

after the rollback is complete... a restart might be required... then afterwards...

C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

again a reatart might be needed...."

Hope this works for some of you. It worked for me, but do not upgrade when it asks you.

CER22
19th December 2006, 05:53
OMFG!!!!!! motoboy! dude u f'ing rule! For those like me who have been in the same boat spending hours trying to get the fix to work motoboy's directions worked 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pomiwi
19th December 2006, 10:31
Quit the BS because if you bought it you could burn it to a cd and rip it to MP3 and do whatever you want with it. If you are referring to To-go services then that music you do not own and are simply renting it.

What a rude person! No actually you can't - you can burn the file to CD but the tv episodes I bought (from direct2drive.com) and paid for have the DRM on them so you can't make them into DVDs to watch on your TV - I also buy music from Digirama.co.nz and their stuff is also protected so you can't even put it into I-Tunes without ripping it first. I, together with a lot of these other people in this forum think you should be able to do what you like with this music/video if you have bought it. (and no its not To-go - all the things I have got I have clicked a "buy" button and paid with my credit card not a "rent" button)

So why don't you quit being rude to other people and find out your facts first - what do you think all these other people are posting about - and that is what FairUse4WM is all about, being able to use stuff you have paid for - if you haven't got anything useful to add to the forum and all you are going to do is insult people then don't bother posting.
:angry:

blutach
19th December 2006, 11:04
Let's get back on topic please. No need for flame wars.

Regards

Basti[08/15]
19th December 2006, 12:44
hi, i just downloaded the 2006-12-09_DRM_FIX and tried to apply it, but when I reach the point where the "DRM" folder must be deleted, i cant proceed. The Problem is that I use Vista, and there is no such folder. Well, there is a folder c:\programdata\DRM , but it is totally empty (even with hidden files activated...)

hope someone can help!

thx

CER22
19th December 2006, 17:48
;919075']hi, i just downloaded the 2006-12-09_DRM_FIX and tried to apply it, but when I reach the point where the "DRM" folder must be deleted, i cant proceed. The Problem is that I use Vista, and there is no such folder. Well, there is a folder c:\programdata\DRM , but it is totally empty (even with hidden files activated...)

hope someone can help!

thx

Make sure you click the option to show protected files as well. I had the same problem as you until i read i had to not only click "show all hidden files" but "show protected files" too. Good luck! I'm using XP so hope vista is similar.

Basti[08/15]
19th December 2006, 18:17
I did check this option. The structure in vista seems to be different.

rdn98
19th December 2006, 20:31
It might be true. I'm not sure if you can really rollback in vista though, since it comes with wmp11 final already installed so you might be screwed already.

However, you could always run a virtual machine inside vista with windows xp sp2, and do your music downloading in there.

ddawg883
19th December 2006, 21:11
This is the part in Mi0tis' instructions where i get lost....im not sure what it means

8. Now, from this release, right click on the included "Program Files" folder and click "copy"

Can anyone verify this...im not sure what folder it is talking about...this is where im getting stuck

CER22
20th December 2006, 01:00
This is the part in Mi0tis' instructions where i get lost....im not sure what it means

8. Now, from this release, right click on the included "Program Files" folder and click "copy"

Can anyone verify this...im not sure what folder it is talking about...this is where im getting stuck

just drag the two folders into your program folder and click yes

molitar
21st December 2006, 07:54
2006-12-09_DRM_FIX does not work. XP reinstalls all the files.. and won't let the old version even run. So the fix is a big HOAX. I'm doing the uninstall and going to install beta 2 version.. this DOES NOT work on the final at all.. DO NOT waste your time trying.

Kosh
21st December 2006, 16:16
2006-12-09_DRM_FIX does not work. XP reinstalls all the files.. and won't let the old version even run. So the fix is a big HOAX. I'm doing the uninstall and going to install beta 2 version.. this DOES NOT work on the final at all.. DO NOT waste your time trying.

I don't know why you say this but the FIX works just fine.

molitar
21st December 2006, 16:36
Because XP recovery files replaces the files with the newer version. Puts it right back on. It even complains about trying to run the older version. I put on Beta 2 version and it works perfectly fine. So I removed the final version and put on installed beta 2 version and it works fine. But XP WILL NOT let you replace the newer files it replaces them immediately.

CER22
21st December 2006, 17:49
Because XP recovery files replaces the files with the newer version. Puts it right back on. It even complains about trying to run the older version. I put on Beta 2 version and it works perfectly fine. So I removed the final version and put on installed beta 2 version and it works fine. But XP WILL NOT let you replace the newer files it replaces them immediately.

Well you need to read the motoboy's post do what he says than install the drm fix and it'll work 100%

emazur
22nd December 2006, 08:42
I bought for the first time today some protected wma, but wanted to de-drm them to play in the car stereo so I found this thread. Seems all the links are broken but I found some working links at this site:
http://all-streaming-media.com/remove-DRM-protection/FairUse4WM-freeware-DRM-removal-Windows-software-Strip-copy-protection-from-WMV-ASF-WMA-Windows-Media-Player.htm

I haven't checked for virus or tested this program yet though, it's really late right now and I'm gonna go to sleep.

In any case I'd like to thank the author(s) of fairuse4wm as well as anyone providing user support on this forum

Digga
22nd December 2006, 14:22
I bought for the first time today some protected wma, but wanted to de-drm them to play in the car stereo so I found this thread. Seems all the links are broken (...)at least the links provided in post #3 & #6 are still up.

emazur
23rd December 2006, 08:05
Yep, those links didn't work last night for me but seem ok now.

This was my first experience with DRM music- I was anti DRM before (but not hellbent against it) but now I dislike it even more. The reason I bought them was b/c a legal site called Peer Impact is having a deal where you can buy singles/albums at .25 / $2.50
and they have a huge selection, and some of it is in unprotected mp3. But playing back and burning the protected wma is a real pain in the ass. Waiting several seconds for every stinking file to check online for the license before it will play sucks big time. I brought my laptop into the exercise room and loaded up some techno files to listen to during my workout. After a song ended, the music stopped to get the license for the next track and wouldn't play until I pressed the ok/play button. That was somewhat disrupting my exercise. And it's not just once per track, sometimes I have to reauthorize the track if i play it later. It would be one thing if I could pre-authorize all tracks at once before playback and never worry about it again, but the way it is now really sucks.

And then there are the burning issues. The Peer Impact company provides an app to download/play/burn the music they have. But it gave me messages like "burning has been temporarily disabled- please use WMP to to burn CD". Well I tried that and it didn't work- as far as I can tell there are 2 ways to burn with WMP9 (what I have on win2k) with a roxio or nero plugin which is free. The Nero plugin won't play ball with protected files, and the Roxio plugin failed to aquire the licenses of the WMA files even though I have them. Being computer savy, I knew of other apps that could burn protected wma. Real Player made me download some WMA SDK, reboot, and then install another update for WMA support. After doing that it said it was ready to burn and everything seemed to be fine until I actually tried to playback the burned CD- complete silence. So I tried MusicMatch Jukebox- it would start to burn the cd, then pause in the middle of burning to get the license evertime it was burning a new track. And guess what, the license getting procedure failed. That's four programs I tried to burn with and no results, unless you count 2 wasted CDRs.
Also I'd like to mention that my laptop is from 2001 (my only computer) so no built in wireless or usb 2.0. I have a single pcmcia card slot, which I usually use for wireless but will swap to a high speed usb2/firewire card when I do burning. If I have to get a damn license before or while burning, I am forced to reduce burning speed to 4x on the built in usb 1 port since I must access the net via the pcmcia wireless card.

So now fairuse4wm comes into play and strips that damn DRM right out. Plays instantly with no fuss in Media Player Classic and should work in my car stereo as-is without having to convert from burned-cdr to unprotected mp3 or wma. So again I'd like to thank the author.

Even after going through all this I ordered some more music from Peer Impact today. I guess they have the author of fairuse4wm to thank for that. But if they jack up the prices then forget it, but for now $2.50 an album or .25 per single is a pretty good deal. At least as long as I can declaw the DRM...

Anthony1uk
23rd December 2006, 11:30
Does anyone know what to do if a error message of "unhandled situation -9071 occurs.

I can play the DRM file fine. But then when I close WMP this error comes up, but and I cant find anything from googling.

Am using FU4WM v1.3 and v1.3 fix

Indiv002.key version 10.0.0.3646

Thanks

Anthony1uk
23rd December 2006, 11:50
Thanks but I have finally fixed it by deleating my DRM folder and letting a new licence be downloaded.

ratmaster9
25th December 2006, 06:14
Hmm... I haven't noticed that. I've used Zune and WMP 11 on three computers without incident.

Computer 1: WMP Beta 1 --> Beta 2 --> Final, and installed Zune via download (before I installed WMP final)

Computer 2: Beta 2 --> Final, Zune via download

Computer 3: Beta 1 --> Final, Zune via CD.


It should be noted that computers one and three no longer work with FU4WM, but played fine together before I stupidly allowed them to update. I dunno if something happened on your computer, but I had no prompt to update WMP while installing Zune.

Not to be offensive or anything, but please don't post if you didn't actually install the software. You just made a lot more work for me that was pointless. In the process of installing the Zune Software, which you would know had you actually done it, it automatically installs "Windows Media Format 11 runtime."

When I try to remove "Windows Media Format 11 runtime."

I get this:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5374/removeruntimerr2.jpg
Sorry if its a little blurry... as I havn't installed anything on this computer, its in paint...

If it helps, on my other computer, even though it has windows media player 11 and everything is all the way up to date, it still installs this runtime thing.

As I found out while completing the instructions included with 12- something -06 fix, after completing it, you get a problem with logging in to reobtain the licenses.

I don't know what else is there is that I can do. I should note that I didn't allow any updates. I had to install Windows Installer v3.1 to install the Zune Software, but no other changes have been made to the computer. Its running on windows media player v9.00.00.3250, but once I install the Zune Software, it automatically updates the Individualization key to the latest version.

Please, can someone please help me out...

usual_suspect
26th December 2006, 21:49
Maybe the fix works for some and not others however it definitely did not work for me. I did however manage to get fairuse working by rolling back wmp 11 and wm runtime11 through add/remove programs. I then installed wmp 11 beta2 from oldapps and installed it. Next i delted everything in the drm folder and re-individualised and now everything works. Hope this helps anybody still having dificulties.

Aside, does anybody know of any good programs which will obtain song information for some music files on my computer? the files are on my computer, not on cd.

Cheers

muslix64
27th December 2006, 01:52
Hi everyone.

I just start a thread about my new tool to decrypt AACS protected movies.

Have a look:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=119871

Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oZGYb92isE

Executable and source code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/8318838/BackupHDDVD.zip.html

Merry Christmas!

mysekurity
27th December 2006, 06:44
Not to be offensive or anything, but please don't post if you didn't actually install the software.

I installed both Zune and WMP 11 on 4 computers now with no issue. Maybe I just didn't pay too close attention to the install (or maybe it's because I installed WMP 11 before installing Zune) that I never saw a screen like what you posted.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but from personal experience it's worked for me.

I'm not sure exactly what the situation is with you, but I'd uninstall Zune first, then perhaps rollback to Beta 2. If I'm wrong, please accept my sincerest apologies. You just have to understand where I'm coming from (all XP, two MCE 2005 Rollup 2, one of which hooked to an XBOX 360).

blutach
27th December 2006, 10:56
@muxlix64 - please do not cross post.

:readrule:

Regards

ratmaster9
27th December 2006, 20:10
I tired what you said... it didn't work... I got it so that it was one of the ibx versions that was approved with windows media 11 beta2, and then as soon as I installed the Zune software, it automatically updated it to the latest one.

I don't know how you got it working, but whenever the zune software is installed for me, it automatically updates it. Man you got lucky... Looks like I'll need to try something new...

swarts
28th December 2006, 08:13
I am new here and thankful for all the help I have found in the prior posts. I was using Fairuse4wm 1.1 and it worked well even thow I have wm 11. I used it the other day on a vid I was planing to watch and this comes up "wmv requires a different private key." I down loaded another movie and opened it with wm and it opens to watch, it's just I cannot undrm them. When my pass runs out my vid is gone
I did up grade to fair use 1.3 still the same, I rolled back to wm10 same problem.
I have read and read and have found no solution yet. It may be an easy fix I just do not know what to do. I am no computer person. If you can help, please make it easy for me to under stand. Thank you for the support and for this great board. :thanks:

usual_suspect
28th December 2006, 13:39
I am new here and thankful for all the help I have found in the prior posts. I was using Fairuse4wm 1.1 and it worked well even thow I have wm 11. I used it the other day on a vid I was planing to watch and this comes up "wmv requires a different private key." I down loaded another movie and opened it with wm and it opens to watch, it's just I cannot undrm them. When my pass runs out my vid is gone
I did up grade to fair use 1.3 still the same, I rolled back to wm10 same problem.
I have read and read and have found no solution yet. It may be an easy fix I just do not know what to do. I am no computer person. If you can help, please make it easy for me to under stand. Thank you for the support and for this great board. :thanks:

If you use 1.1 click back then click recover key and when it asks you to choose a file to obtain a key from choose the movie file you are having problms with- this should sort it out.

If you are using 1.3 do the same only you shouldnt need to select an individual file. If you do again select the particular movie file. Hope this helps

tastyratz
28th December 2006, 16:24
so the fix that was posted *worked* for me on my other windows install, but now for some reason it doesnt work once I installed on my raid! Windows media 9 with winxp sp2 on fresh install. windows file protection is a pain and gets in the way, but I installed a program called wfpadmin which allows me to disable wfp for 1 reboot. I copy wmp files in that folder over but when I try to run the exe it says that windows media player is not properly installed, do I want to go to the microsoft website and reinstall. I ran fairuse4wm after and it says drmclien.dll has version 9.9.9.3250. If I skip it and it continues it says that indivbox.key has version 10.0.0.3646. I tried running wmp before and after applying the microsoft website drm update and deleting the contents of the folder.
Would it be possible for me to just copy the contents of the drm folder from the good known working windows install?
ideas? anyone else have this issue?


*edit* I resolved my issue. I downloaded a copy of wmp11 beta2 installer legit full from oldapps.com and installed it. after a reboot fairuse is now working fine :-)

swarts
28th December 2006, 19:14
If you use 1.1 click back then click recover key and when it asks you to choose a file to obtain a key from choose the movie file you are having problms with- this should sort it out.

If you are using 1.3 do the same only you shouldnt need to select an individual file. If you do again select the particular movie file. Hope this helps

When I use 1.1 and try to recover keys "Unhandled situation-9000while Creating Windows Media Instance" This is after the vid runs for any length of time.

When I use 1.3 and try to recover key's "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." is what it say's. Then I press ok and "Fairuse4wm will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information. ("DRMClien.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3802) is what the next pop up box says.

Thank you for all your help, It is greatly appreciated

usual_suspect
28th December 2006, 19:20
When I use 1.1 and try to recover keys "Unhandled situation-9000while Creating Windows Media Instance" This is after the vid runs for any length of time.

When I use 1.3 and try to recover key's "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." is what it say's. Then I press ok and "Fairuse4wm will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information. ("DRMClien.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3802) is what the next pop up box says.

Thank you for all your help, It is greatly appreciated

In changing your wmp version you have updated it and received microsofts patch which stops fairuse working. Rollback wmp 11 and wmp 11 runtime through add/remove programs and then reboot. Next install wmp11 beta 2 from oldapps.com and when you have done that delte everything in the drm folder and re-individualise. Then just follow the steps that i said earlier.

mysekurity
29th December 2006, 02:02
I tired what you said... it didn't work... I got it so that it was one of the ibx versions that was approved with windows media 11 beta2, and then as soon as I installed the Zune software, it automatically updated it to the latest one.

I don't know how you got it working, but whenever the zune software is installed for me, it automatically updates it. Man you got lucky... Looks like I'll need to try something new...

I'm not sure, but I'd guess it has something to do with installing Zune Software v.1.0 (get a previous version, or take it from the CD). The two computers that still work with FairUse4WM (creating an account with any service provider will update ibx), one was updated with the CD, and one was installed from the website, two days before Zune itself was released. I think it may be an issue with v 1.2 of the Zune software, but I don't see any reason why it would affect PlaysForSure--doesn't Zune's marketplace use a different version (9.1 of Janus)? I don't understand why it would, but I guess I could be wrong. And hell, if I'm lucky, than so be it.

NHS
29th December 2006, 17:41
Hi

This question has probably already been asked, but I don't have the time to read 38 pages of posts. My question is, is there any way of removing DRM protection from a file you don't have a licence for?

I have a file which asks for a username and password when I open the file, the problem being, I don't have a username and password anymore.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Sir Didymus
29th December 2006, 22:42
NHS, at least take the time to read the forum rules (it's just one small page). Your post is violating rule #6. This thread is about FAIR use for WM. So please do not ask things compromising the integrity of the forum.

blutach
29th December 2006, 23:55
Indeed - take the time to at least read the rules including the page about strikes please NHS.

And may we also ask you do not insult ask by saying you can't be bothered looking for information. Using search is also a rule, as you will hopefully find out. This board has a powerful search function which should help users find what they are looking for.

Regards

NHS
30th December 2006, 01:24
Blutach, thank you for your reply. Firstly, let me apologise to to you and other members of the forum, as it was not my intention to bring the integrity of the board into question, so for that I apologise.

Secondly, although I do not have to explain myself, I feel I should as you seem to have taken my comments to heart. My comment of "I don't have the time" is a true one - I am a Doctor working a night shift in a busy Trauma Department and as I am sure you will agree, my priorities lie with patients, not with 38 pages of text. So with that, my comments where true and did not intended to insult you or anyone else.

And as you to will hopefully find out, comments can always be taken in the wrong way, and interpreted in the worst possible way, despite them being made with the best possible intentions.

Many thanks

blutach
30th December 2006, 03:02
Well, let's move on and perhaps when you are not on duty, you can use search. In the meantime, I wish a happy new year to you, your patients and everyone on this board.

Regards

PrivateJoker
30th December 2006, 04:47
I am running WM 10 and Fairuse4wm is no longer working for me. I tried following the instructions that were posted but no luck. I do not see WM as a running service. Was that step only for Wm11 users?

Danj
30th December 2006, 09:49
My question is, is there any way of removing DRM protection from a file you don't have a licence for?

A common misconception here seems to be that "people won't tell you how to do this because it goes against fair use". Although that is obviously a consideration, the main problem with it is, you NEED the license in order to be able to decrypt the file. If you don't have the license, you can't get the key to decrypt the file with.

Panarchy
30th December 2006, 14:29
I keep on getting this error!

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3752/wmpvmy9.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wmpvmy9.jpg)

Please help!

jbhitter24
30th December 2006, 18:44
can anyone repost a mirror for fairuse 1.3? it appears all the previous ones have been shut down.

and if i have installed the zune software previous to milOtis' fix, then i should be ok i presume.

EDIT: i checked the search and i didnt find anything. keep up the good work guys.

winlinmac
31st December 2006, 01:12
panarachy: try running as administrator or launch fairuse4wm directly.

does any one have a valid link to milotis's fix? I have tried to replace most of the wmplayer 11 rtm files with 11 beta 2 ones and fixed the registry version number settings (there are around 5 places where it stores the current version number) but every time I reindividualize it gives me ibx version 6000. i thought his fix avoids rolling back to version 10 and reinstalling the beta.

i also wrote a program to switch media player components, the dllcache files and the registry version numbers of wmplayer.exe, wmp.dll, and wmploc.dll if any1 is interested. So now i can easily switch from wmp 9 - 11 and anything in between. (7 doesn't work yet but i'm trying...)

VivaFairUse4WM
31st December 2006, 02:27
I keep on getting this error!

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3752/wmpvmy9.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wmpvmy9.jpg)

Please help!


Your path to the FairUse4WM.exe is invalid (you are using the default) You have to use the select button and point it to the correct location of the fairuse4wm.exe. FairUse Commander is only a front end tool that calls FairUse4WM.exe and does some file renaming.

Panarchy
31st December 2006, 06:12
Okay, I will try that now.;)

Panarchy
31st December 2006, 06:22
Um, I can't find it on my computer. Requesting link.

JarrettH
31st December 2006, 08:35
what happened to Viod? :scared:

Panarchy
31st December 2006, 09:55
Viod? What that?

Digga
31st December 2006, 15:40
can anyone repost a mirror for fairuse 1.3? it appears all the previous ones have been shut down.again, at least the links provided in post #3 and #6 are still up.

PrivateJoker
31st December 2006, 20:41
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 8,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.




Any suggestions?

CER22
31st December 2006, 21:00
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 8,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.




Any suggestions?

You need to do the roll back. Check a few pages before for directions.

hanugro
1st January 2007, 03:12
again, at least the links provided in post #3 and #6 are still up.
Is that ver1.3Fix?

hanugro
1st January 2007, 03:32
what happened to Viod? :scared:

He is dodging M$ agent right now. Hope the best for him and hopefully new FU4WM1.4. One of the best piece of free apps I ever encounter.

PrivateJoker
1st January 2007, 22:00
I did the rollback that milOtis posted, but I'm still getting that error.

cblinkdude182
2nd January 2007, 00:12
I have gotten the Napster 7 Day Free Trial and download over 1000 songs. I have WMP 10 and I am using fairuse4wm 1.2 fix and everytime I get the program open and then click ok and all that crap, it says pick an active licensed file and i go to one of my Napster songs and it says it doesnt have a license. What can I do???

blutach
2nd January 2007, 00:20
That's because you don't have a licence! You have a trial of a service. You need a licence to UnDRM the tunes.

Enjoy listening to the 1,000 songs. While you are doing so, may I ask you to carefully read and understand rule 6 please?

Regards

Morbo
2nd January 2007, 00:25
http://www.spiketv.com/mods/afro/player/index.jhtml

If you wanna test...there's a 480p video there....you can get the file
HERE (http://a1926.g.akamai.net/downloadstor.download.akamai.com/10768/spiketv.com/AfroSamurai_WithPromo_drm_480p.wmv)

I had WMP11......reinstalled WMP10(DO NOT DO THE UPDDATES)....

Played file,when asked for update......stopped...ran 4U..saved undrm'd file.......file now works in WMP10.....un patched.

This is a free download with DRM.......probably timebombed....but still....JIC you need to 'test' w/o screwing up anything.

cblinkdude182
2nd January 2007, 00:27
So U mean i can't convert them???

cblinkdude182
2nd January 2007, 01:44
I got a DRM Video Sample from ezdrm.com and i run fairuse and then it says close all windows media instances and i click ok and then it says find a drm file and i go to my sample video and then it opens in wmp and says do you want to open a page to get the license and i say yes and then it finds it and gives me the option to play or cancel, and i have played it and not played it and still fairuse just sits their aquiring licenses...help?

blutach
2nd January 2007, 03:29
So U mean i can't convert them???Precisely.

Regards

Deihmos
2nd January 2007, 05:11
I have gotten the Napster 7 Day Free Trial and download over 1000 songs. I have WMP 10 and I am using fairuse4wm 1.2 fix and everytime I get the program open and then click ok and all that crap, it says pick an active licensed file and i go to one of my Napster songs and it says it doesnt have a license. What can I do???

If you are stealing music why not keep it to yourself? People like you make me sick

CER22
2nd January 2007, 05:54
I did the rollback that milOtis posted, but I'm still getting that error.

I did the one that motoboy used and it worked for me. If you need more help PM me.

blutach
2nd January 2007, 07:50
@Deihmos - please respect rule 4.

Regards

hicux
2nd January 2007, 16:07
:sly: First of all, happy new year 2007 to everybody.
I just wanna say that the programa Fairuse4WM 1.3fix is still working. Just follow the instruction. I m still [EDITED BY BLUTACH] microsoft... Be ready for FairUse4Wm 1.4
greeting from Viodenta and Hicuxh4ker

xwings
2nd January 2007, 20:14
We'll...not for me. As I said I keep getting a message during decrypt that says it "requires a different key" then it fails to decrypt. Can someone point me to instructions on how to repair the FU4WM and WMP10 handshake or link or whatever? How do I get FU4WM to look for a new set of keys?

EDIT: NEVERMIND, I figured out how to force FU4WM 1.3 to recover a new set of keys..........:stupid: It now works with WMP10..:cool:


Could you tell me how to force it to recover the new Key.
I use 1.3 fix it still doesn't work for me.

thanks

blutach
2nd January 2007, 23:14
@hicux - we are all looking forward to viodentia's return and new versions, if that be the case.

What we don't like is your language. Please respect our rules (see rule 4) and the fact that this forum is open to members of all age groups.

Regards

PrivateJoker
3rd January 2007, 04:20
I did the one that motoboy used and it worked for me. If you need more help PM me.

Thanks Cer everything is now working.

ndenum
3rd January 2007, 16:11
pls hw can i get back my lost licence?i need help pls.

ndenum
3rd January 2007, 16:12
help mi pls.i need to get ma songs

Doom9
3rd January 2007, 17:30
If you don't have valid license, you're at the wrong place and need to contact the company where you bought your songs from. And you need to familiarize yourself with our forum rules, especially rule 12 and 6 or your stay here will be very shortlived.

yaonan
6th January 2007, 09:47
It doesn't work in Windows Media Player 11.
(ver. 11.0.5721.5145) It is not beta version.
What can I do?
It can't open the wma film to find the DRM, so it doesn't work.
(※ Sorry, my English is very poor.)
(※ Would you reply me with an e-mail? My e-mail: 50515@yahoo.com.tw Thank you very much.)

oldshark1957
7th January 2007, 17:10
I've purchased music from Yahoo! -- purchased, not rented, at the full $0.99/song rate -- and would like to remove the protection from those songs so I can back them up onto CDs or play them on my other networked computers.

I've actually been following this thread since late November. With due respect to the moderators (who I saw chew on the doctor who posted previously), this thread is now so incredibly cluttered, and filled with conflicting advice, that it's worse than useless -- it's downright confusing. Trying to follow all that conflicting advice has eaten up hours and hours of my time, and it's not done me a bit of good. It's just made me very, very frustrated. I don't mean to seem whiny, but if the point of this thread and these forums is to actually HELP people, it's not doing a very good job right now.

I realize it's an imposition upon the patience of the more technically savvy readers here, but I have an earnest request:

Could someone write a reply on this thread -- or, if the moderators think it appropriate, start a new thread -- with a detailed, from-scratch explanation of how to remove the protection (including links to such software, like FairUse4WM, as updated or patched, as is needed)? Please assume that your reader (like me) is starting with Windows Media Player 11.0, with all updates to it, fully installed.

Thanks in advance to any white knights who have the technical ability and the patience to respond to my request.

sonicbox
7th January 2007, 17:52
oldshark1957, sorry I can't help fix this mess of a thread. Do note you can burn your purchased Yahoo! music to CD without any hacking. The license allows that. The songs will have no DRM after that. You can also play Yahoo! DRM music on multiple PCs... at least 3, if I remember. The license allows that, too. You'll need to login to Yahoo! Music on the other PCs and it'll load the license when it needs it.

Danj
7th January 2007, 21:26
I realize it's an imposition upon the patience of the more technically savvy readers here, but I have an earnest request:

Could someone write a reply on this thread -- or, if the moderators think it appropriate, start a new thread -- with a detailed, from-scratch explanation of how to remove the protection (including links to such software, like FairUse4WM, as updated or patched, as is needed)? Please assume that your reader (like me) is starting with Windows Media Player 11.0, with all updates to it, fully installed.

The problem is not one of patience, it's the simple fact that because of all the many different configurations of Windows PCs out there, the one-size-fits-all approach does not always work.

Since you have all the Windows Media Player updates installed, you would need to check if Yahoo Music will allow you to redownload songs, because the "roll-back" procedure that you would need to perform will destroy any existing DRM licenses you have (not just music but video too).

The reason why this roll-back procedure is needed is that the current version of FairUse4WM (1.3fix) does not support the latest version of Microsoft's "Individualized Black Box DLL" (referred to in this thread as "IBX" for short). This file is the critical system file which handles the encryption and decryption processes involved in Microsoft's DRM. A few forum posters here have discovered a method whereby they can obtain an older IBX by replacing certain Windows Media Player files with older versions. Unfortunately this seems to be a hit-and-miss process as not everyone has been able to get it to work. Also, because this file is individualized, you cannot simply download a copy of it from someone else, you have to obtain it via the proper individualization process which takes place on Microsoft's web site, otherwise it simply won't work at all.

I personally do not have any experience with the roll-back process since (so far at least) I haven't yet been forced to upgrade to Windows Media Player 11, and consequently I still have IBX version 11.0.5497.6285. If you wish to determine your own IBX version, you can follow these steps:

1. Go to Start, Control Panel, Folder Options, View tab.
2. Check "Show hidden files and folders".
3. Uncheck "Hide extensions for known file types" and "Hide protected operating system files".
4. Load Windows Explorer.
5. Go to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM.
6. Right click Indivbox.key (may also be called Indiv001.key or Indiv002.key or something - pick the one with the highest number if so) and choose Properties.
7. Click the Version tab.

Your IBX version number will be displayed at the top. If it is 11.0.6000.6324 or higher then you will need to perform the roll-back process and hope it works for you. If not, then either FairUse4WM 1.3fix or FairUse4WM 1.3 should work for decrypting your files.

FairUse4WM itself is pretty self-explanatory... it is presented in a wizard style format and supports both dragging and dropping of files and also passing filenames on the command line. The first time you use it you will need to recover your DRM keys, but after that, unless for some reason your IBX gets upgraded or you have to reindividualize, it will remember them and go straight to the file chooser dialog.

Basti[08/15]
8th January 2007, 18:54
hey guys, i have a strange problem. Fairuse4m normally works great here. I used it for *.wmv and *.wma files. But now, i got some kind of different .wmv file. The license for this movie isn't saved anymore; everytime i play this movie, the license is aquired again.

This has never happened before, normally the files are aquired once and then saved. With this "new" type of .wmv file, fairuse4wm says that there is no valid license found...


http://bwiebertha.de/fairuse.jpg

hope someone can help

xaveryptak
8th January 2007, 22:46
Anybody have applied recent security update from MSF "Security Update for Windows Media Player 6.4 (KB925398)"to WMP 10? I just don't want to lose ability to use FairUse4Wm.

TECK
9th January 2007, 00:20
http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/28/microsoft-already-on-their-way-to-patching-fairuse4wm/

rdn98
10th January 2007, 18:09
Yea, I read that too a few months ago, but fairuse4wm 1.3fix still works, so the article is correct, but not 100% correct. :)

ddawg883
11th January 2007, 01:25
Any word on a fairuse 1.4?

oldshark1957
11th January 2007, 13:07
Danj, thank you for the clear instructions and comments. I'm IBIX version 11.0.6000.6324, and I'm unwilling to risk losing my existing DRM licenses.

Yahoo!'s Jukebox is supposed to allow you to stream audio from the computer on which the purchased song was downloaded to another networked computer. But you have to disable the target computer's firewall, and even then I'm still getting the crippleware 30-second versions of the music used as teasers on Yahoo!'s website. When I emailed their customer service, the reply was prompt: I should turn up my volume or turn off my mute. Duh. One of those responses that leaves you wondering whether they're idiots or they just think I am. (Probably both.)

I had tried copying my downloaded .wma files to one of my networked computers and trying the roll-back procedure on it; heeding the FairUse4MW 1.3 warning, I had also downloaded one new song directly to that computer so it would have one working DMR license. But although the rolled-back WMP ver. 10 seemed to work fine, I still couldn't get FairUse4MW to work.

So I guess I'll sit tight and hope for a FairUse4MW ver. 1.4 someday. Thanks again for the time and effort you put into your reply -- I'm sure it will be very useful for other folks as well!

Danj
11th January 2007, 19:23
When I emailed their customer service, the reply was prompt: I should turn up my volume or turn off my mute. Duh. One of those responses that leaves you wondering whether they're idiots or they just think I am. (Probably both.)

Actually I would expect that the reply you received was automated. That usually accounts for its seeming irrelevance to your problem.

JarrettH
11th January 2007, 21:47
how can i backup my license key for terminator 2 wmv hd?

blutach
12th January 2007, 06:01
Just how did you get such a license key?

Regards

JarrettH
12th January 2007, 06:12
It must be on my machine somewhere. I'll just watch the DVD instead, I've given up on this [edited]. Looks great in WMP11 except I'm not going to keep it around to play one movie. I hope one day I can watch the HD version from the DVD using media player classic. :cool:

blutach
12th January 2007, 07:08
Yes, it must. You didn't answer my question and instead responded with profanity, which we do not tolerate.

Strike issued.

Regards

AjaxGotGame
12th January 2007, 07:15
So hicux when is the relese of this golden app suposed to show up its been a week...

JarrettH
12th January 2007, 13:21
what do you mean how did i get a license key? are you assuming i don't own the dvd? you should know for protected movies like this - if not music - you are given a license key to playback the movie for a period of time, just look up "terminator" and you will understand

blutach
12th January 2007, 13:56
A license to play is limited and you do not own the content - you have merely rented it.

Whetehr you own the DVD or not is irrelevant. The content in question is not a DVD file but a WMV.

As well, I assumed nothing - I asked you. You responded with profanity which is why you received the strike. Further resposes in this vein will incur another strike, which sadly, will lead to suspension.

Regards

milOtis
12th January 2007, 16:40
born free.....as free as the wind blows....as free as the grasss grows....

ok ok, i am unsuspended now, if anyone needs help with all this fairuse4wm stuff, i just rolled back a friends' computer yesterday and so fairuse4wm is still working, and he even had all the latest updates and downloads from microsoft, so pm me if you need help, i have the instructions for how to fix fairuse4wm/wmp all wrapped up in a tidy package.

::: milOtis

dirtminer
12th January 2007, 16:55
what do you mean how did i get a license key? are you assuming i don't own the dvd? you should know for protected movies like this - if not music - you are given a license key to playback the movie for a period of time, just look up "terminator" and you will understand

This was covered earlier in the thread, but I'll recap.

Typically, physical media with WMV files will use 1-play licenses so you access their server every usage.
Fix this by setting Windows Media to prompt for license acquisition. WM will get the license and wait for you to click "[Play]". If you don't click "[Play]", the license isn't consumed and other programs can use it.

tjf
12th January 2007, 17:20
This was covered earlier in the thread, but I'll recap.

Typically, physical media with WMV files will use 1-play licenses so you access their server every usage.

This is not the case of Terminator 2 wmv HD. If you have the DVD in your drive, you will get a 6 day license (you must connect from USA or use a proxy).

blutach
13th January 2007, 00:53
Neither of which display you have bought content for your own use and benefit absolutely for all time. Only to play.

Regards

setarip_old
13th January 2007, 01:14
@tjf

It doesn't take much to confuse me - and I'm confused about the "Terminator 2" discussion in this thread.

Is this a purchased DVD that contains both the normal (.IFOs, .BUPs, .VOBs) resolution movie and a high res, .WMV version of either the entire movie or a portion of it?

Or is it strictly a purchased WMV/HD version?

(Or is it the little 2 minute clip that's freely available for download from Microsoft at:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/musicandvideo/hdvideo/contentshowcase.aspx )

JarrettH
13th January 2007, 03:04
It has the special edition on disc one and wmv files of the HD version (720p I think) on disc two. The wmv files have DRM.

How do you use this program anyway? Maybe it doesn't work for me because like you guys said my license is not stored on my system. Recover keys does nothing for me. I only ever looked into this program to remove DRM on this movie.

I think discussion of T2 HD is important because I have never seen DRM successfully stripped from it. No one seems to be able to back it up reading at avsforum and topics at doom9.

setarip_old
13th January 2007, 03:21
@JarretHIt has the special edition on disc one and wmv files of the HD version (720p I think) on disc two. The wmv files have DRM.Thanks for clarifying.

If that's the case, applying the logic we've all used to justify ripping DVDs, it would seem to me that if I purchased that two disc DVD set, I'd be equally entitled to rip both the standard version and the HD version contained in the purchased set - it's just a matter of different copy protection schemes...

tjf
13th January 2007, 08:43
Neither of which display you have bought content for your own use and benefit absolutely for all time. Only to play.

I don't agree. If I bought the WMV HD DVD then I have right to watch it whenever I want. However the DRM restricts me: there is a need of internet connection, USA location, installing very buggy software (InterActual) and working license servers.

Two years ago, long before FairUse4WM I copied it to my HD. It was quite difficult process which I described here (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5556628&&#post5556628). But I bet with FairUse4WM it must be much easier.

Tomas

blutach
13th January 2007, 10:10
@tjf - I am not familiar with the licence for this content. But it does sound restrictive. Thanks for the info.

Let's get back on topic.

Regards

vha2581
13th January 2007, 18:55
Anyone know how I can convert and remove? Maybe there is something that I haven't looked at. Can we use fairuse on the new real drm? Just hit me back with your opinions?

mountainbikextremist
14th January 2007, 19:04
I just downloaded Fairuse4wm, and I can't get it to work. I have already done some very extensive searching "several afternoons worth of looking", and I cant seem to find a clear solution to my problem. For all of you computer geeks, this probably seems clear cut, but for me it isnt. I am good with computers, but I have my limitations if you know what I mean.:scared: So, please bear with me:o Anyways, this is what is happening to me:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6127/1so5.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3677/2vp7.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2771/3wk8.jpg

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/1237/4mm1.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9959/5sr5.jpg

If you could make your instructions as clearcut as possible, that would be awsome! Thanks a bunch guys!:cool:

omjeremy
14th January 2007, 19:36
You need to download and use the 11-27 fix. You have too new of a version of the IBX. The 11-27 fix rolls back WMP 11 to WMP 11beta. Look for the file in the thread (it is here) and follow the instructions therein.

aadvanced1
14th January 2007, 21:44
I have around 1200 protected WMA files, and I noticed that when I have tried to select all of them, fairuse4wm crashes. I assume that the error has something to do how many files I am selecting, but to my knowledge the limit on selecting files in most programs is around either 16,000 or 32,000. I know that the 32k limit is true in VB and C. Is there any way to get around that limit, such as loading the file list from an external source (txt or otherwise)?

Yes, all 1200 songs are bought, not rented. The DRM is not a problem since my IBX version is older, and is v11 beta.

mountainbikextremist
15th January 2007, 00:48
I just got done doing ALOT of searching, and I have only managed to frustrait myself! I rolled my WMP11 back to WMP10, and downloaded FairUSeWM 1.2 (fix) I encountered a different problem however.

1. I click on Recover Keys, and I get a screen that says:
Attempting to recouver DRMv1 keys

FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information.

"DrmClien.DLL" has version 10.0.3802

2. So I click "Ok" and get this message:
This program will freeze until Media Player exits. You may have to close Media Player manually if it runs longer than a minute.
"Indiv01.key" has version 11.6000.6324

Please close all Media Player windows!
Click OK what you are ready to proceed

3. So I close out of WMP and anything else, and hit "OK"

4. Then I get a winow that pops up that says: "Choose a licensed Windows Media file that has a working license..." Sooo, i proceed to do and select a Licensed Windows Media Player File in My Music...

4. Then Windows Media Player pops up, and says its trying to open media... I wait, and wait, and wait, and nothing happens...

5. I try and close out of WMP, and FairUse crashes "freaks out, and quits responding" I have done this with multiple WMP Licensed files, and I get the same result.

6. If I leave WMP open as I select a file to "Recover the Key from" I get an error that says:

Unable to recouver private key

Unhandled situation -9000 while Creating Windows Media instance.

Retry Cancel

7. So i click Retry, and it brings me right back to the "Recovering Unique Identifiers" window

Any help is greatly apreciated! Im new to this all, so if im doing something stupid, I dont intend to:p

omjeremy
15th January 2007, 02:27
Rolling back WMP 11 to WMP 10 won't work. Here is a link for the file I told you about:
http://www.f-forge.com?d=dP4ISM53KQGfjvR96eBH

Follow the directions therein and you should be fine. Also, you should be using version 1.3fix. You can get that here: http://www.f-forge.com/?d=zZvpPERaUnIOFjwX7AW4

Also, please note that this process deletes your licenses. You will need to reacquire them. The usual way to reacquire them is to just play them in WMP and you will be prompted to download the license.

Voltacid
15th January 2007, 05:11
I am trying to use this fairuse4wm1.3 and when I attempt to load my liscence I get an error message stating that I do not have any IBX Components. I have Windows mediaplayer 10 and have tried this on another computer of mine without any problems. Is there any way that I can get the required IBX components?

mountainbikextremist
15th January 2007, 06:00
Rolling back WMP 11 to WMP 10 won't work. Here is a link for the file I told you about:
http://www.f-forge.com?d=dP4ISM53KQGfjvR96eBH

Follow the directions therein and you should be fine. Also, you should be using version 1.3fix. You can get that here: http://www.f-forge.com/?d=zZvpPERaUnIOFjwX7AW4

Also, please note that this process deletes your licenses. You will need to reacquire them. The usual way to reacquire them is to just play them in WMP and you will be prompted to download the license.


I just tried that and now I get this error:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 7,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

dockler
15th January 2007, 11:39
Is there anyway I can have the path that I added myself from the <Add New Path> menu to stay in the drop down list permenantley?.

omjeremy
15th January 2007, 16:52
You must be doing something wrong mountainbikeextremist, because it shows that you still have the wrong version (11.0.6000.6324 and up is unsupported). Follow all the steps outlined in WM Fix.zip and you will be fine. I couldn't find step 3, but I followed all the other steps and it still worked for me. There really is nothing more I can tell you.

mountainbikextremist
15th January 2007, 17:49
You must be doing something wrong mountainbikeextremist, because it shows that you still have the wrong version (11.0.6000.6324 and up is unsupported). Follow all the steps outlined in WM Fix.zip and you will be fine. I couldn't find step 3, but I followed all the other steps and it still worked for me. There really is nothing more I can tell you.

Aight, I'm gonna try and go through the process again. :thanks: ALOT for your clear instructions and patience!

mountainbikextremist
15th January 2007, 20:14
You must be doing something wrong mountainbikeextremist, because it shows that you still have the wrong version (11.0.6000.6324 and up is unsupported). Follow all the steps outlined in WM Fix.zip and you will be fine. I couldn't find step 3, but I followed all the other steps and it still worked for me. There really is nothing more I can tell you.

I just got done trying again, and still the same error. I know if following the directions correctly. I went back to the DRM folder, after i had deleted everything, and did the upgrade through the link provided, and it tells me that my IBX number is the same. Maybe the link provided isnt giving me the the right IBX #?

cashdude
15th January 2007, 20:18
I just got done trying again, and still the same error. I know if following the directions correctly. I went back to the DRM folder, after i had deleted everything, and did the upgrade through the link provided, and it tells me that my IBX number is the same. Maybe the link provided isnt giving me the the right IBX #?

I also have done the rollback many times but fear that when we reindividualize it gives us the latest ibx version.

CER22
15th January 2007, 21:53
ok this is what I did and worked for me a month or so ago (hope I got this all right):

This is what microsoft suggests:
Rolling back to a previous version of the Player
Windows Media Player is a feature of the Windows operating system and cannot be removed entirely. However, in Windows XP, you can roll back to the version of the Player that was previously on your computer.

You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group to perform the following procedure.

1.
Disconnect any portable music or video devices that might be attached to your computer.
For more information, see Issues with devices after removing Windows Media Player.
2.
In Category View of Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Remove a program.
3.
At the top of the list, select the Show updates check box.
4.
In the Windows XP - Software Updates section, click Windows Media Player 11, and then click Change/Remove.
5.
In each of the two confirmation dialog boxes that appear, click OK.
6.
When the rollback process is complete (it might take several minutes to complete), click Restart.
7.
In Category View of Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Remove a program.
8.
At the top of the list, select the Show updates check box.
9.
In the Windows XP - Software Updates section, click Windows Media Format 11 Runtime, and then click Change/Remove.
If you installed a non-US English version of Windows Media Player 11, the instructions in the dialog boxes that are mentioned in steps 9, 10, and 11 might appear in English.
10.
In the first confirmation dialog box that appears, click OK.
11.
In the second confirmation dialog box that appears, select the Do you want to continue with the rollback? check box, and then click OK.
12.
When the rollback process is complete (it might take several minutes to complete), click Restart.
13.
In Category View of Control Panel, click Add or Remove Programs, and then click Remove a program.
14.
Click Microsoft User-Mode Driver Frameworks Feature Pack 1.0, and then click Remove.
15.
Follow the instructions that appear in the Software Update Removal Wizard.
If the Wudf01000 confirmation dialog box appears, click Yes to continue. When the software removal process is complete (it might take several minutes to complete), click Finish.





Download the roll back fix, delete everything in your DRM folders (make sure you are showing all hidden files and all microsoft protected files) and make sure you follow all directions in the roll back fix but do not copy the windows media player & runtime folders until after you do this:

GOTO ->
C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallwmp11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

after the rollback is complete... a restart might be required... then afterwards...

C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe

restart.

Now copy the two windows media & runtime folders into your program folder. Now play a licensed file or go to ezdrm and try out a file and it will update to to the previous ibx version so fairuse should now work.

VivaFairUse4WM
16th January 2007, 01:04
I have around 1200 protected WMA files, and I noticed that when I have tried to select all of them, fairuse4wm crashes. I assume that the error has something to do how many files I am selecting, but to my knowledge the limit on selecting files in most programs is around either 16,000 or 32,000. I know that the 32k limit is true in VB and C. Is there any way to get around that limit, such as loading the file list from an external source (txt or otherwise)?

Yes, all 1200 songs are bought, not rented. The DRM is not a problem since my IBX version is older, and is v11 beta.


Try running with the FairUseCommander front end. For such a large amount of files it should invoke it's batch limiting code (if the batch feature is enabled) which may work around this problem (it will result is several calls to FairUse instead of just one to keep it under the 32k character command line argument length). If that still doesn't work you can disable the batching completely and it will call FairUse via command line 1200 times. It won't be pretty but it will get the job done.

mountainbikextremist
16th January 2007, 03:43
I have only managed to screw my computer up, loose all of my music licenses "which I cant get back because I had to cancel to jukebox subscription", and really frustriate myself!:mad: :mad: :mad: So here goes the long process of trying to reverse all crap I did to my computer! I will wait for Viendata to come out with Fairuse4wm v1.4... I have had enough of this "rolling back" stuff! I really apreciate everyones great help, but it just seems like a "no go" for me at this point... Over and out!

milOtis
17th January 2007, 20:26
blutach - you need to keep in mind though, that if you use the URGE trial, the songs you downloaded after that trial is over STILL play, even when the trial has ended and you have not purchased a subscription, so you need to know that URGE is different from the rest of the subscription/trial services.

the license is forever to play which is the same as the bought music from other services, so if you use URGE subscription to download you OWN, wheras other services make your music unplayable when your subscription ends, so URGE downloads are the same as owning since the licenses work indefinately even after cancelling or ending the trial.

::: milOtis

blutach
17th January 2007, 22:19
I will read the terms and conditions of use again - this topic is best discussed off line. PM me if you wish to point me in a direction that shows users have the rights of purchasers.

Regards

mountainbikextremist
17th January 2007, 22:58
blutach - you need to keep in mind though, that if you use the URGE trial, the songs you downloaded after that trial is over STILL play, even when the trial has ended and you have not purchased a subscription, so you need to know that URGE is different from the rest of the subscription/trial services.

the license is forever to play which is the same as the bought music from other services, so if you use URGE subscription to download you OWN, wheras other services make your music unplayable when your subscription ends, so URGE downloads are the same as owning since the licenses work indefinately even after cancelling or ending the trial.

::: milOtis


Are you sure? If i right click on a song I downloaded from my Urge Free Trial, and click on Media Usage Rights, it says: This File Can Be Played Until 2/1/2007...

blutach
17th January 2007, 23:07
In any event, can we play stay on topic to FU4WM please?

Regards

mountainbikextremist
18th January 2007, 03:59
Any news on Fairuse4wm v1.4 yet? Waiting as patiently as i can:D

ybarra
18th January 2007, 18:19
Any news on Fairuse4wm v1.4 yet? Waiting as patiently as i can:D

The problem a lot of people are having is the WM11 redistributible. I had the latest version of WM11 on both of my PC's and tried everything and it wouldn't work until I figured out I had to uninstall the WM11 redistributible along with WM11. Go into your windows folder and look for the WM11 uninstall as well as the WM11 redistributible uninstall. Run both. This will revert you back to WM10 or WM9 depending on what you had previously. Then you can delete your license files as described. Don't bother going to the windows website to generate new licenses. Just go to www.oldapps.com and download WM11 Beta. When you install the beta, it will give you the old WM11 redistributible at the same time and generate your license files. You can then buy a song from Walmart.com and play it once and then extract the Walmart.com keys with fairuse4wm. I've done it on 3 different PC's now without any problems (all of them had the latest WM11 on it). Keep in mind that the minute you delete your old license files to generate new ones, any content you had locked to those keys will no longer be playable or extractable. This will only work on new files you purchase.

cashdude
18th January 2007, 22:10
The problem a lot of people are having is the WM11 redistributible. I had the latest version of WM11 on both of my PC's and tried everything and it wouldn't work until I figured out I had to uninstall the WM11 redistributible along with WM11. Go into your windows folder and look for the WM11 uninstall as well as the WM11 redistributible uninstall. Run both. This will revert you back to WM10 or WM9 depending on what you had previously. Then you can delete your license files as described. Don't bother going to the windows website to generate new licenses. Just go to www.oldapps.com and download WM11 Beta. When you install the beta, it will give you the old WM11 redistributible at the same time and generate your license files. You can then buy a song from Walmart.com and play it once and then extract the Walmart.com keys with fairuse4wm. I've done it on 3 different PC's now without any problems (all of them had the latest WM11 on it). Keep in mind that the minute you delete your old license files to generate new ones, any content you had locked to those keys will no longer be playable or extractable. This will only work on new files you purchase.

I have done this a few times over the last week but it seems that MS has put in a catch when installing an older version. It says that there is a problem with the install and asks you to download from their site. I have successfully rolled back the WMP11 but I can't get my old player to work. It crashes when I try to play a movie.

soccerdude240
20th January 2007, 04:44
I got fairuse awhile back and im having the same problem as mountainbike extremest. now i dont care how i do it but i really twant to strip drms off my music. it has literally been driving me insane. ive tried pretty much every tutorial on here and i was wondering if any of you have an idea to make fairuse work or if there is a different way to stip drms? I'm good wi9th computers (i built my own :]) but i cant figure out how to get this program to work. this is also my first time with drm stripping...:D

soccerdude240
20th January 2007, 05:15
The problem a lot of people are having is the WM11 redistributible. I had the latest version of WM11 on both of my PC's and tried everything and it wouldn't work until I figured out I had to uninstall the WM11 redistributible along with WM11. Go into your windows folder and look for the WM11 uninstall as well as the WM11 redistributible uninstall. Run both. This will revert you back to WM10 or WM9 depending on what you had previously. Then you can delete your license files as described. Don't bother going to the windows website to generate new licenses. Just go to www.oldapps.com and download WM11 Beta. When you install the beta, it will give you the old WM11 redistributible at the same time and generate your license files. You can then buy a song from Walmart.com and play it once and then extract the Walmart.com keys with fairuse4wm. I've done it on 3 different PC's now without any problems (all of them had the latest WM11 on it). Keep in mind that the minute you delete your old license files to generate new ones, any content you had locked to those keys will no longer be playable or extractable. This will only work on new files you purchase.

is this possile without doin things from walmart.com

mmtux
20th January 2007, 14:24
Hello!

Does someone know if fairuse4wm is working on Windows Vista?

WalterK
20th January 2007, 16:21
i doubt it will work in the final version of Vista since that ships with the Final version of WMP11.
And who knows MS may have blocked any tampering with drm files on the software lvl as they have done wth blu-ray and hd-dvd playback.

We will just have to wait and see.
The best bet for folks who want to remove drm and don't want the headache of rolling back software or deleting folders is
1)To create a streamlined install disc of XP using Nlite.
2) Use Vmware server or another virtual pc emulator.
3)Install your streamlined version of XP in that environment and use THAT as your music/movie purchase pc.

Never update to wmp11 final use the last beta beta 3 i believe, and until wmp11 final becomes the default player just use fairuse on the virtual environment and transfer your drm free media over to your real pc with good old networking.

osmo67
20th January 2007, 16:58
I just do not get this stuff! I cannot find a way to recover keys! Can somebody help me with this? I am sure the answers are here, I just have not found them.I get this when I try to use Fair Use: IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.

Thanks!

soccerdude240
20th January 2007, 17:42
I just do not get this stuff! I cannot find a way to recover keys! Can somebody help me with this? I am sure the answers are here, I just have not found them.I get this when I try to use Fair Use: IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.

Thanks!

ya, thats the same problem im having

xwings
20th January 2007, 18:15
ya, thats the same problem im having

I had my Windows use automatically update so it installed Windows media 11 automatically and I couldn't convert my DRM files anymore.
I try everything in the book still couldn't get it to do it.
so, I redo my PC from an image file that I created with WM 10
Now it's working with no problem.
So, my suggestion is roll it back to WM 10 and wait till they come out the one that will work with WM 11 then upgrade it to WM 11.

mountainbikextremist
20th January 2007, 19:16
I just do not get this stuff! I cannot find a way to recover keys! Can somebody help me with this? I am sure the answers are here, I just have not found them.I get this when I try to use Fair Use: IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.
IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet.

Thanks!

IBX stands for individualized blackbox component. This deals with DRM. I have that same version as you "it is the newest, and WILL NOT work with the latest FairUse. Check out "Post #824" I tried this technique, and had no suck luck. Only managed to frustriate myself, and my computer:mad: I too have done extensive searching. Im sure there is a way to get it to work, but I have yet to find it, nor do do I have the time to tinker with it "college student." Right now, i think our best bet is to wait for Voiedata to come out with v1.4. Until then, I patently wait. My nrofessional advice "if you have plenty of time" is to do some searching for "11.0.6000.6324" If you happen to find a solution that works, PM me:D :thanks:

osmo67
20th January 2007, 21:20
Thanks, but I tried that and I beleive Urge only works with WM11. I did have everything working perfectly with WM11, but now I am iising something and or doing something wrong!

soccerdude240
21st January 2007, 17:19
I had my Windows use automatically update so it installed Windows media 11 automatically and I couldn't convert my DRM files anymore.
I try everything in the book still couldn't get it to do it.
so, I redo my PC from an image file that I created with WM 10
Now it's working with no problem.
So, my suggestion is roll it back to WM 10 and wait till they come out the one that will work with WM 11 then upgrade it to WM 11.

weird thing is is that mine wont roll back to wmp 10...
if it did then fairuse would work on my comp but other than that im stuck at the moment. i might go to oldapps.com to get wmp 10, cause i did an upgrade from wmp 9 to the latest wmp 11...then i rolled back to wmp 11 beta 1. this fairuse thing is really weird for me... but im going to get it to work...i am determined.................lol

osmo67
22nd January 2007, 04:14
Thanks for the information. I have iunistalled WM 11, installed WM11 BETA 1, and no luck. Any word on when the next version of Fair Use will come out? Hopefully it will solve my problem.

sinker
22nd January 2007, 23:08
born free.....as free as the wind blows....as free as the grasss grows....

ok ok, i am unsuspended now, if anyone needs help with all this fairuse4wm stuff, i just rolled back a friends' computer yesterday and so fairuse4wm is still working, and he even had all the latest updates and downloads from microsoft, so pm me if you need help, i have the instructions for how to fix fairuse4wm/wmp all wrapped up in a tidy package.

::: milOtis

Could you please send me the tidy package with instructions

culprit
23rd January 2007, 16:13
Five days isnt that long but I felt like a kid waiting for the new Star Wars movie to come out.

Hopefully someone can help me. I am using Windows MCE and am recording movies for later viewing. More and more lately the movies are protected and when I try to play them on other devices (ie - MiniPS, Other PC, work, on a trip, etc...) I get the message Restricted Content. This really urks me because I am in no way trying to pirate movies I just want to view the movies I have recorded.

I have tried running FairUse4WM but it does not give me the option to select a DVR-MS movie. I have also tried DVR2WMV to convert the DVR to a WMV file so I could use FairUse4WM but the program just hangs and doesnt convert the file.

Could someone please help?

Sincerely,
Rob

Chrisk_352
24th January 2007, 07:24
Thanks for the information. I have iunistalled WM 11, installed WM11 BETA 1, and no luck. Any word on when the next version of Fair Use will come out? Hopefully it will solve my problem.

I don't believe there will be anymore updates to fairuse4wm since Microsoft's John Doe lawsuit.

quietstormeagle
24th January 2007, 22:01
Hello, for those of you that have tried the new fixes and so forth with version 1.3, these fixes (After you visit microsoft site for the DRM update for IPX or what it is which will give you version 11.0.6XXX.XXXX :mad:) will no longer work. If you have the old 11.0.5XXX.XXXX version you will be fine, but make sure you have automatic updates off for WMP11 turned off - you are one of the lucky ones. Other than that the rest of us will have to wait for the next new version of FU4VM to come out, if there is a possibility of it happening.

unknownsoldierX
25th January 2007, 00:56
Or you can downgrade to WMP 10. It worked for me.

I had WMP 11 with all the updates, and I was able to uninstall it and WMP Runtime. I installed WMP 10.0.0.3646, and FU4WM worked again. I then installed all the updates for WMP 10 and it still works.

Chrisk_352
27th January 2007, 06:42
Or you can downgrade to WMP 10. It worked for me.

I had WMP 11 with all the updates, and I was able to uninstall it and WMP Runtime. I installed WMP 10.0.0.3646, and FU4WM worked again. I then installed all the updates for WMP 10 and it still works.

Have you tried it with in last couple of days?

culprit
27th January 2007, 18:31
Could someone please address the issue of removing DRM from DVR-MS files recorded thru Media Center? It is ridiculous that I cant view these videos on any other computer.

Thanks,
Rob

setarip_old
27th January 2007, 18:50
Hi!

Read the information at the following link:

http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/dmc_DVRMS.aspx

milOtis
28th January 2007, 08:44
Hopefully someone can help me. I am using Windows MCE and am recording movies for later viewing. More and more lately the movies are protected and when I try to play them on other devices (ie - MiniPS, Other PC, work, on a trip, etc...) I get the message Restricted Content. This really urks me because I am in no way trying to pirate movies I just want to view the movies I have recorded.


yeah, in the media player there is an option to add protection. it is on by default, so you have to disable protection in your options. it will say "are you sure" like ms software ALWASY does, and you just say yes or ok

::: milOtis

culprit
29th January 2007, 17:19
I am using Media Center's guide and future programming capabilities to record the television shows/movies I want to see later. I dont think there are any options to disable protection; I think they are being DRM'd during the broadcast somehow.

I have also tried to convert the DVR-MS file directly to a WMV file according to the previous post without luck. The conversion program (Digital Media Converter) locks up after less than a minute into the conversion which is similar to other conversion methods I have tried. I think this has something to do with the DRM copy protection.

Again, this is extremely frustrating and I think I should be able to play my recording on any of my computers and portable devices. If anyone else could give me some more insight it would be greatly appreciated.

Rob

mysekurity
30th January 2007, 05:11
Does anyone know if updating Urge to get the Automix update kills FU4WM? In other words, does it update the IBX while it's messing with the rest of Urge and WMP?

I know that creating an account updates the IBX, but does adding your financial information alter anything?

Help would be greatly appreciated.

Selayan
30th January 2007, 06:11
I had windows media player 11 and my fairuse4wm stopped working. I then reverted to windows media player 10, and fairuse still does not work. It tells me the songs do not belong to me, when I have napster subscription with penn state.

mysekurity
30th January 2007, 17:43
I had windows media player 11 and my fairuse4wm stopped working. I then reverted to windows media player 10, and fairuse still does not work. It tells me the songs do not belong to me, when I have napster subscription with penn state.

Please do not use this program with subscription content (it's in the rules). Subscriptions are already fairly priced as they are. The purpose of this utility was to free purchased content (the kind that you buy for $.99 or $10 per album, etc.), and using it with a subscription furthers the belief that we are stealing. That being said, FU4WM doesn't depend on the version of Windows Media Player, but on the version of its DRM code.

You most likely have a version greater than .6 (see other posts in this forum), and hence it has stopped working for you. Or, there could be a few problem files that FairUse isn't converting (I have about two or three that it says are not licensed to me, but play fine in WMP). In the former case, there's not much you can do except pray for an update or try MilOtis' rollback (which has had varied results). If other files are converting (try using a sample, also found in other parts of this thread), you can contact Napster and see if they will allow you to re-download your purchased media.

Good luck!

oddball
30th January 2007, 19:20
I think I will just wait for 1.4 it all sounds like too much hassle. I don't have many wma files anyhow.

mysekurity
31st January 2007, 00:18
I think I will just wait for 1.4

One of the results of Microsoft's suit against Viodentia was that he sort-of went into hiding. We also haven't heard much from MonkeyBoy in a while, so the prospects aren't looking good of ever seeing a 1.4. It seems that the best solution to someone who has a newer version of the IBX is to use MilOtis' rollback, which, I understand, may not work anymore (as the individualization site apparently gives people the newest version). Too bad...

jn441
31st January 2007, 00:47
I've got DRM version: 11.0.5744.6324 and Indiv Version: 2.5.0.0 on my Vista machine, but FairUse4WM says

IBX components do not appear to be present and No "drmclien.dll" found in path

I've reindividualized a couple of times but no luck (strange that doing this didn't increase the DRM version). When I go to the DRM folder there is no indivbox.key.

Vista also stores the DRM folder in C:\Users\All Users\Microsoft\DRM or C:\Users\All Users\Microsoft\Windows\DRM so maybe it is a path problem with Vista. (c:\Documents and Settings is a JUNCTION now)

I can't uninstall WMP11 because it's built into the OS...

in my DRM folder I have

10/08/2006 12:31 PM 20 blackbox.bin
10/04/2006 04:51 AM <DIR> Cache
01/30/2007 06:32 PM 266,240 drmstore.hds
11/15/2006 08:31 PM 4,348 DRMv1.bak
11/15/2006 08:31 PM 4,348 DRMv1.key
10/08/2006 12:31 PM 9,506 v3ks.bla
10/08/2006 12:31 PM 740 v3ks.sec

WalterK
31st January 2007, 01:33
maybe MS did a fix for Vista or fairuse was not built to operate correctly in Vista.
If you still have your XP install disc build a virtualmachine with VMware and use that to remove drm just don't update to wmp11 final no matter how many times it begs for it.
Instead installl wmp 11 beta 2 or 3 if your drm file demands you upgrade.

torqueywrench
31st January 2007, 06:29
i have version 1.3 and it worked fine in removing the protected content from my music, i upgraded the software in which i purchase music, and then i downloaded wmp 11 and it started giving me this message "suchsuchfile requires a different private key"

StreamRipper
31st January 2007, 07:47
I can't get the WMP downgrading instructions from the given file sharing server. Can anyone please upload to some new servers and share the link.

NokiaFanatic
1st February 2007, 15:52
As a first time poster - hello.

Well fortuantly - I stumbled across this site a while back and found this program which works beatuifully! I download music from various places now on the web from 2 differnt machines. Unfortunatly after using the program on one PC for a while - then decided to see if Windows had updates for me. I di not check here first for all the problems with WM11. Now one mchine is out of commision for the downloads. I do hope that 1.4 will come - but like 1 has said, we may not hear from the writer for a while. Which is sad that companies will allow us to pay for music, but only hold us to listening on that 1 PC or a specific prtable player. I for one have a PC, but use an iPod, but download wma's. Its sad that a monopoloy has occured with Microsoft as well with Apple. The music industry should be the ones to step up and let consumers of their purchased product enjoy the music they legally purchased and downloaded on any player they so choose. If they are worried that one person would download it and then share it with others for free, its the same worry as when 1 purchases a CD and makes copies for others as well.

Anyway. Great program!!!

Selayan
1st February 2007, 20:48
Its not like I didn't pay for napster in order to download the songs, its part of my technology fee that I pay here every semester which totals to about $100 including everything else. The only reason I like to use Fairuse is that I can't get any of my songs from napter on to my mp3 player. Also, I like having my songs in mp3 style. Ill look for that rollback technique but I dont have time to mess with it now. I guess I have to wait for a new version if there will be one. I mean after my years at college are done, my napster subscription will not work anymore, so then I won't be able to continue to hear those songs, let alone keep them.

blutach
1st February 2007, 21:04
That's the point - they are not yours. Please do not clog up this thread with your specific legal issues.

Regards

Selayan
2nd February 2007, 04:43
Well now I tried fairuse4wm and I got this message:


Extraction in progress on "Indiv002.key" 11.0.5497.6285 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1331 Large 6 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 5,3,2
AES KEY: a9 af c8 15 ae 6b 75 f2 7b 7a 6e d7 57 ea 02 02
Testing 1538 possibilities for primary private key.
Completed. Primary and 3 secondary ECC keys recovered (0 bogus).

This is with windows media player 10. And I'm not doing this with all my music, i myself bought some songs that were not available with the subscription. And these are the ones I want to put on my mp3 player...only about 20 songs cuz the rest of my library was deleted when I formated my HD.

sonicbox
2nd February 2007, 08:50
Selayan, save yourself some grief... if it's only 20 tracks just burn it to Audio CD and rip to back to unprotected MP3. For that, I can't see much advantage to using "fairuse4wm" since your goal is to convert it to MP3 anyway.

By the way: Napster protected subscription stuff does work on many mp3 players from Creative Labs, Sandisk, iRiver, etc.

Selayan
2nd February 2007, 16:32
I guess I'll do that for now...but I plan on buying more tracks that I cant get at other places so my library will soon be over 100 some songs. I guess Ill just buy a cd-rw and do wat you suggested until the new fairuse comes out.

tdudetyler
2nd February 2007, 22:29
I need to remove DRM from my music. And whats the latest fairuse4wm? where can i get it from?

SPECS: Windows Media Player 11 Build 11.0.6000.6324
Windows Vista Ultimate Build 6000
URGE Music Service

mysekurity
3rd February 2007, 01:32
Selayan: burning drm'd tracks to a cd and ripping them is not nearly as easy as it sounds. WMP has a built-in mechanism to prevent just that, but I recommend you use Audacity to unencrypt your tracks (link (http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1302.0)). They will be of a lower quality, but they shouldn't be too much lower, as it will be recording from your speaker output (another, more expensive/complicated [yet easier] method is to use TuneByte). Good luck.

sonicbox: The DRM used by Napster works only with PlaysForSure compatible players (what this tool is intended to remove). I personally use Urge, and there are two options: one that allows you to take the content with you on a portable player (for $15 a month) and the other which doesn't ($10 a month). Please remember though that this software is intended only for use on purchased media.

tdudetyler: The latest FU4WM is the version 1.3 fix, which is not compatible with your version of Windows Media Player (and it seems that there are issues with MilOtis' rollback on Vista). Sorry, I guess you're SOL. In any event, most, if not all, of the sites that offered FU4WM for download have been taken down. Sorry...

tdudetyler
3rd February 2007, 17:19
Selayan: burning drm'd tracks to a cd and ripping them is not nearly as easy as it sounds. WMP has a built-in mechanism to prevent just that, but I recommend you use Audacity to unencrypt your tracks (link (http://www.zuneboards.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,1302.0)). They will be of a lower quality, but they shouldn't be too much lower, as it will be recording from your speaker output (another, more expensive/complicated [yet easier] method is to use TuneByte). Good luck.

sonicbox: The DRM used by Napster works only with PlaysForSure compatible players (what this tool is intended to remove). I personally use Urge, and there are two options: one that allows you to take the content with you on a portable player (for $15 a month) and the other which doesn't ($10 a month). Please remember though that this software is intended only for use on purchased media.

tdudetyler: The latest FU4WM is the version 1.3 fix, which is not compatible with your version of Windows Media Player (and it seems that there are issues with MilOtis' rollback on Vista). Sorry, I guess you're SOL. In any event, most, if not all, of the sites that offered FU4WM for download have been taken down. Sorry...

whens the next one that will be compatible coming out?

torqueywrench
3rd February 2007, 18:56
can someone post a link for v1.3 and the 1.3fix, cause i uninstalled wmp 11 and installed back to 10...thnx

blutach
3rd February 2007, 23:19
@torquewrencg - please use search; this board has a powerful search function, use it.

@tdudetytler - your crystal ball is as good as anyone elses's. This is unanswerable except by the author.

Regards

culprit
4th February 2007, 01:27
Could someone please address the issue of removing DRM from DVR-MS files recorded thru Media Center? It is ridiculous that I cant view these videos on any other computer.

Thanks,
Rob

blutach
4th February 2007, 03:46
@culprit - please do not make such requests. What people offer is there. If an author has invited feature requests well and good. But, this goes too far.

Asking for help on how to do something is fine. Asking someone (anyone) to somehow address a problem of yours is not.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121780

Regards

TheGreatDave
4th February 2007, 14:24
Hi guys. I have a few protected files that I'm able to access on a couple of PCs. I can use FairUse on my girlfriends PC because she hasn't upgraded to WMP11, but I've got Vista so I'm kinda screwed. Is there any way to get key information from one PC to carry across to another with the FairUse program, so I can read the key on one PC and use it on another? It sounds unlikely, but I just thought I'd ask :)

Selayan
4th February 2007, 17:13
Thanks mysekurity, for the link to audacity. Im trying it now. My roommate says that if you can find the virtual B drive on your pc, you can make an image and place the songs on there then rip them..still havent the time for that.

kobak8
5th February 2007, 19:44
selayan read your private messages

culprit
6th February 2007, 07:12
@culprit - please do not make such requests. What people offer is there. If an author has invited feature requests well and good. But, this goes too far.

Asking for help on how to do something is fine. Asking someone (anyone) to somehow address a problem of yours is not.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121780

Regards
Blutach,
I apologize if my question is inappropriate; I just thought someone could tell me how to remove DRM from my DVR-MS files. Earlier someone had told me that you could convert the DVR-MS file to a WMV file first using Digital Media Converter but all the converters I tried including this one locked up after a few seconds; I would assume due to the DRM'ing. It just seemed that this might be possible already with the software and that someone could tell me how; your post was actually the first time I was told that the software could in no way do this.

Sincerely,
Rob

TehMark
6th February 2007, 17:44
eek, hasn't this proggy been broke since September?

unknownsoldierX
6th February 2007, 18:24
eek, hasn't this proggy been broke since September?

It is still possible to use it if you have WMP 10. I have all the updates installed (10.00.00.4040) and my Indivbox.key is version 11.0.0.4321.

mysekurity
7th February 2007, 00:45
Blutach,
I just thought someone could tell me how to remove DRM from my DVR-MS files.


Try dCut (http://www.cnet.com.au/downloads/0,239030384,10444364s,00.htm) (or look over David Caulton's [of the Zune team] previous posts (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Azuneguy.com+dvr). He frequently discusses ways to convert your dvr files.)

Good luck!

resource
7th February 2007, 03:56
Steve Jobs just announced that he wants all DRM to end
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/

And Bill Gates announced a few months ago that consumers are better off the CDs because DRM is too cumbersome.

This means Viodentia needs to come back and make FairUse4WM 1.4. to fix all these new IBX numbers.

With this new Wal-Mart store we need a way to strip DRM off of purchased movies and move video around.

blutach
7th February 2007, 06:03
He'll come back in his own good time.

Please observe the instructions in this sticky (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121780).

Regards

KoD
7th February 2007, 13:10
What I see from that "Steve Jobs just announced that he wants all DRM to end" article is that Apple had enough of the big music producers imposing the rules and having the upper hand. Just like that article says, Apple has to provide those companies both the tech specs of their drm system and the guarantee that in case the system is compromised they will patch it up quickly or face immediate withdrawal of rights to sell that copyrighted material (and I also imagine they'd have to give "compensation" to the music companies as well).

So, the music sellers have the tech secrets that they can reveal to someone else and make Apple pay for "drm system breach" and also the right to withdraw their copyrighted material from sales if Apple does not comply. No wonder Apple doesn't like it. This is like selling yourself as a slave and keep your mouth shut hoping that your work as a slave for the rich master will earn you so much that it would compensate while your master can cut your head off anytime he pleases. But now that the music companies are facing troubles with low sales of CDs while iTunes on-line service is successful, Apple is planning on rebelling against their masters, or at least using this opportunity to negotiate better terms.

You can also see they approach this problem in a round-about manner: "Much of the concern over DRM systems has arisen in European countries. Perhaps those unhappy with the current situation should redirect their energies towards persuading the music companies to sell their music DRM-free". In other words: "you are asking us to remove DRM ? (see the recent Norwegian court decision), then force those companies to remove DRM". A nice method to threaten the music companies, isn't it ? It's not us (Apple) that asks you this, the EU legislators will impose this on you !

Apple is not happy to give up on DRM one inch... they know that if this happens, their sales will go down as well. What they would probably like is for such music giants to intensify their lobbying efforts and make the EU adopt stricter copyright laws. Let the music companies and the EU law makers battle themselves, and with a bit of luck (lots of grease money), the law will bend.

Who thinks this is done out of sympathy for the poor end consumer is a naive chump.

tillerman
7th February 2007, 21:45
Hard to believe DRM will go away any time soon. In Googling for fu4wm 1.4, I've come across several "membership" sites that list it as downloadable. BS or not? No one here has mentioned any of them, so I'm assuming BS. Anyone know for sure?

Danj
7th February 2007, 22:13
Hard to believe DRM will go away any time soon. In Googling for fu4wm 1.4, I've come across several "membership" sites that list it as downloadable. BS or not? No one here has mentioned any of them, so I'm assuming BS. Anyone know for sure?

They are most likely full of spyware or viruses. I am sure that if there was a real 1.4 it would have been posted on here by someone or other. To be honest I wouldn't have thought anything is likely happen on the fu4wm development front until the lawsuit against viodentia runs out of steam, and with the US legal system being what it is that could be a long long time. Unless some other programmer is able to pick up from where vio left off of course.

schil
10th February 2007, 05:53
Has anyone used WMAConvert (http://www.wma-convert.com) ? They claim it will convert DRM protected WMA files to MP3.

sonicbox
10th February 2007, 06:06
schil, please stop the spam. Thanks.

schil
10th February 2007, 06:20
Chill dude. I am a huge FU fan and used 31fix until I killed it by updating my system. I have not used WMA Convert yet, just looking for alternatives.

tastyratz
13th February 2007, 18:55
so ive been using fairuse4wm on my napster files with fairuse commander so I can burn them to cd and listen to them on my wma cd player in my car. When I try to rip off the drm some of the files are giving errors saying that they dont appear to be licensed to me. I have wmp11 beta and they play in there fine. I AM licensed to these songs, any idea why it wont convert certain ones?

Deihmos
14th February 2007, 05:36
You obviously did not buy the music. If you want to burn it to a cd purchase it and it will burn to a cd. I thought this forum did not promote piracy?

blutach
14th February 2007, 10:24
We don't. Posters would do well to read rule 6.

Plus there's a big difference in having a license to play and owning the material.

Regards

tastyratz
14th February 2007, 15:09
Who said anything about piracy?
I have napster, and pay for the service. I have for months. the DRM is killing me because my cars cd player is old and doesnt support drm.
How is that different from people using this to listen to music in their ipod?
I have a cd player in my car that can play mp3/wma cds. Instead of burning 10 cds, I want to burn just a few cds full of wma files (as in not like a regular cd) to bring the music with me and listen to it in my car.

4Dude
14th February 2007, 15:29
The problem these companies see is:

If it can be gotton around,IT WILL BE ABUSED TO RIP THEM OFF!!!! (Thats what they dont want)

It does make it EXTREMLY HARD for an innocent person to do what they would like with thier media,but they are looking at the bottom line.....So if your CD player doesnt support DRM,you need to use a sound recorder and make a basic copy,then transfer it to CD... (Which should play fine)

Good luck!

tastyratz
14th February 2007, 15:43
oh absolutely, I realize the purpose of drm, as well as what the "big four" thinks of people who use fairuse. Im sure they would prefer i purchased a copy for my home cd player, a copy for my car, and pay to download a copy for my computer. Maybe even just send them the money for nothing in return but the blessings of the kind souls who run the place.

I realize there are other ways to copy media, such as sound recorders (aka tunebyte, etc.) ....
however re-recording media in an analog fashion results in a loss of quality... Ive done it, Ive heard it. It sounds damn close I know... however to do that you have to make sure you pick a higher bitrate than it was recorded in to maintain alot of the original information. This results in larger files that sound worse. Otherwhise I would have turned these all into mp3's a long time ago.

My issue is directly with the use of fairuse4wm

4Dude
14th February 2007, 15:49
Ah i see.........

I understand i guess :)

Ya see all peoples dishonesty over the years has made it HARD for people that just wanna make copies for themselves and NOT make a profit,etc...

:(

pplsfrntofjudea
14th February 2007, 17:03
Ok, so i have been using fairuse succesfully for a while now, great program by the way, and I have been seeing posts about "FairUse 4WM Commander" and going through this thread I couldn't find a place to download it... I'm not sure if it has been removed, or I'm just missing it completely. If anyone could point me in the right direction, your help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance :)

sonicbox
14th February 2007, 18:55
tastyratz, no car CD player "supports DRM" -- old or new. Sorry, but your Napster content doesn't allow what you want to do. Since you "pay for the service" and have been doing it for "months", I must assume you are using the subscription service.

Invest in a portable MP3 player from Sandisk, Creative Labs, iRiver, etc. (all subscription service compatible) and use it in your car. It's more convenient than Audio CDs and files on a Data CD. I can't even imagine using a CD player anymore. (Regretably... If you don't have an AUX jack or equiv., a cassette adapter or FM trasmitter is the only option until you upgrade your car deck.)

4dude, if you purchase content from any of the services there is no need to "use a sound recorder and make a basic copy,then transfer it to CD.." -- you can burn audio CDs directly. (FYI: I agree DRM is stupid for purchased content. Why do it, when you can burn a DRM-free Audio CD with it?)

tastyratz
14th February 2007, 19:35
sonic: That doesnt really help me. I know I can go out and buy something thats drm compatible. I dont want to pay alot of money I dont have, for a device I dont want to fiddle with in the car and get into an accident rigging it to work. My cd player works great, and thats how I intend to use it.

If I wanted to go spend more money to do the same task I would do it and wouldnt be here asking the question I did...I mean I dont wanna come off like a jerk but its not helpful to my question.

blutach
14th February 2007, 21:56
@tastyratz - I am not sure what level of service you have paid for - but it is clear that you do own own the music. Sonicbox's comment is pertinent - if you owned the music, you could burn it easily.

The subscription service is DRM'ed for a reason - you don't own the content. You simply may download it and play it on your PC (see their FAQ).

As such, removing DRM from the subscription content is against rule 6.

Let's stop it here, please.

Regards

rdn98
15th February 2007, 03:10
Here you go guys, a yousendit.com link.

http://download.yousendit.com/2182F97547B7D3A2

****
Blutach, you never cease to amaze me at your forum browsing abilities. It seems that everyday now you have to constantly remind people of forum board rules, in particular number 6 a lot of times...lol.

I'd probably go out of my mind if I have to do this all the time, for almost every thread here. :) Keep up the good work.

blutach
15th February 2007, 07:05
Appreciate the nice words rdn98 :)

Regards

4Dude
15th February 2007, 12:52
4dude, if you purchase content from any of the services there is no need to "use a sound recorder and make a basic copy,then transfer it to CD.." -- you can burn audio CDs directly. (FYI: I agree DRM is stupid for purchased content. Why do it, when you can burn a DRM-free Audio CD with it?)I agree i guess my friend........

molitar
16th February 2007, 07:24
One question is their any DRM updates I need to avoid for this version besides not updating to MediaPlayer 11?

rakesh
16th February 2007, 23:10
Hi. Its been such a long time since we heard anything from Viodenta. I hope that great man is safe. I have an amazing problem which I am not been able to solve through any measures.
I downloaded a licensed wmv video from a subscribed website. I am using WMP10 and applied all the security patches. Now whenever I give it the username and password to install the license on my system, it gives an 'Internet Explorer Script Error', which says that a script error has occured and I should contact Microsoft support to solve the issue. I have upgraded my hardware and before the upgrade everything was working just fine with the licensed DRM stuff. Now this script error pops up every time the license installs itself and it never lets me PLAY the file at all.
Can someone tell me what sort of componant I am missing? Is it a common fault. Also, I ran WMP11 to solve the issue but the same happend in it so I rolled back. I have installed all the required updates to solve the said matter but to no avail. That Script error comes again and again and I am really frustrated.
Can someone please help me to solve the issue.
Thanks
Rakesh

Winse
17th February 2007, 11:06
Here you go guys, a yousendit.com link.

http://download.yousendit.com/2182F97547B7D3A2

****
Blutach, you never cease to amaze me at your forum browsing abilities. It seems that everyday now you have to constantly remind people of forum board rules, in particular number 6 a lot of times...lol.

I'd probably go out of my mind if I have to do this all the time, for almost every thread here. :) Keep up the good work.

First time poster, long time form reader. I never had to ask for any questions due to the amount of questions people flood you with. Just need to browse a little and read. Any how, I downloaded the 1.3fix and I got a different error and I thought I would like to share it and see if someone could come up with a reason or a fix.

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Good Luck and Thanks.

omjeremy
17th February 2007, 17:50
Read further in this thread for your answer. There must have been 10 people who've had this problem and posted here.

Winse
17th February 2007, 21:49
Read further in this thread for your answer. There must have been 10 people who've had this problem and posted here.

I will do so again, I might of skimmed over it in the past.

JiiSune
18th February 2007, 03:52
I can get 1.3fix to work just fine, no problems. Then I can play the file back. But if I close the file it asks for a license again. Also, if I try to undrm the file again I'm told:

[NoDRM]-SongTitle.mp3 already exists.

But.. there is no such file in my folder. Does 1.3fix save the files someplace else or am I losing my mind? I just want to continue to playback the file.

Thank you

setarip_old
18th February 2007, 05:55
@JiiSune

Hi![NoDRM]-SongTitle.mp3Just perform a search of your hard drive for this title...

JiiSune
18th February 2007, 06:07
I did, searched all my drives and got nothing. Very strange! Does anyone else here use FairUse4WM and know where the files are saved?

Winse
18th February 2007, 21:51
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=936550#post936550

I cant find the download rollback fix.

rdn98
18th February 2007, 22:10
I did, searched all my drives and got nothing. Very strange! Does anyone else here use FairUse4WM and know where the files are saved?

Greetings. When you use the fairuse program, there is a screen where it asks you where you want to deposit your drm free music. Actually, its more like a dropdown box.

For me, I just tell the program to save the NODRM music files in the same directory as the DRM file. Afterwards, I just go into the respective directory and erase the original files and keep the NODRM file.

I hope that helps.

pplsfrntofjudea
19th February 2007, 03:34
Hello, I have yet to locate the "FairUse 4WM Commander"

I have FairUse 4WM and I greatly enjoy it, however in some of the much earlier posts there are mentions of, and if I'm not mistaken even a screen shot of it in action... If anyone knows about this "Commander" and where to find it, I would appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance!!

petrus2
19th February 2007, 06:35
Hello, I have yet to locate the "FairUse 4WM Commander"

I have FairUse 4WM and I greatly enjoy it, however in some of the much earlier posts there are mentions of, and if I'm not mistaken even a screen shot of it in action... If anyone knows about this "Commander" and where to find it, I would appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance!!

You will find a link to the download in the following post:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=913737#post913737

blutach
19th February 2007, 06:57
@pplsfrntofjudea

The board has an excellent search function which you should acquaint yourself with.

Regards

JiiSune
19th February 2007, 09:38
Greetings. When you use the fairuse program, there is a screen where it asks you where you want to deposit your drm free music. Actually, its more like a dropdown box.

For me, I just tell the program to save the NODRM music files in the same directory as the DRM file. Afterwards, I just go into the respective directory and erase the original files and keep the NODRM file.

I hope that helps.

I get no such screen unfortunately. Do you receive this all the time or only the first time you load up the application? Do you also get this screen with the 1.3fix version? I'm using that with WMP11 Beta 2.

Thank you very much for replying!

pplsfrntofjudea
19th February 2007, 16:34
@petrus2

Thank you so much, I really had tried to find it before asking for help, and i thought i was going crazy ;)

@Blutach

I am aware of the search feature and I had tried it with no results and all I was able to come up with was a few instances that it was mentioned... with no explanation as to where or how to get it. But thx anyways

petrus2
19th February 2007, 17:28
@petrus2

Thank you so much, I really had tried to find it before asking for help, and i thought i was going crazy ;)

@Blutach

I am aware of the search feature and I had tried it with no results and all I was able to come up with was a few instances that it was mentioned... with no explanation as to where or how to get it. But thx anyways

pplsfrntofjudea, Like You, I did not download the Commander when I first saw the link posted, then later I tried to search for it using the search function here but to no avail. I had to go back message by message to locate it. It appears that the reason we could not find it using the search function here is that the word "commander" does not appear in the particular post that contains the download link. The url for the download does contain the word, but the link is truncated on the post and therefore a search will not find it.

The Commander is great! Thanks to users UserMan and VivaFairUse4WM for Your efforts in creating and updating it!!!

pplsfrntofjudea
19th February 2007, 17:35
petrus2, It seem we were in a very similar predicament, however i really didn't have to time to go message by message (school). Thank you again for your help.

And, Yes the commander is pretty handy. I second that thanks to UserMan & VivaFairUse4WM. :)

JiiSune
19th February 2007, 17:43
Haha, I found the folder! Just had to find the 1.3 version non-fix and I saw the default save directory. Thank you again for the reply rdn98, very big help! Thanks!

setarip_old
19th February 2007, 17:55
@JiiSune[NoDRM]-SongTitle.mp3
Just perform a search of your hard drive for this title...Can you explain why this didn't work for you?

ratmaster9
19th February 2007, 20:12
I thought I would start up a dedicated support area for FairUse4WM on my site with what I have found to be a solution to get FairUse4WM working properly. Please help me out with the instructions and notify me if there is anything else that should be included, such as notices, ect...

I've speant a lot of time figuring this out and typing up those instructions, so do not post them anywhere else.

Please take a look http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm. Click on Instructions if you want to know how to get it working. If it doesn't work, I'll try to help you get it working in the support forum, but I think this should work for everyone. Enjoy :)

ratmaster9
19th February 2007, 22:13
I have updated the instructions again, just a bit, mainly to add pictures to the instructions to clarify some stuff.

If this works for you, please post so, if not, please post that it doesn't. I'm just curious as to what I have to do if it doesn't work and how many people it does work for :)

blutach
19th February 2007, 22:35
@ratmaster9 - there is no need to post "ads" for your forum. A single post is enough. Please see rule 12. As well, we are not a front end collector for members of your forum.

Regards

ratmaster9
19th February 2007, 22:50
Sorry... I meant for people to post in here if it works or not... I just need to know what I need to change so it works for everyone...

StranjAngel
20th February 2007, 06:55
OH yea I'm new. hehe Ok so here's my error when I use FairUse4WM "...does not appear to be licensed to you" These are the files I downloaded from Zune Marketplace. I think I read somewhere I can't remove the DRM from Zune files. How will I ever back them up?

rdn98
21st February 2007, 21:39
OH yea I'm new. hehe Ok so here's my error when I use FairUse4WM "...does not appear to be licensed to you" These are the files I downloaded from Zune Marketplace. I think I read somewhere I can't remove the DRM from Zune files. How will I ever back them up?

From what I understand, you can't really right now. There is no viable way that I know of.

sonicbox
22nd February 2007, 01:19
From what I understand, you can't really right now. There is no viable way that I know of.For now, just burn the purchased tracks to Audio CD. Now you have a physical (unprotected) backup of the audio content.

You can also re-download any purchased song anytime you want (unlike iTunes' Music Store), so there probably isn't much of a need to "backup."

ratmaster9
22nd February 2007, 01:41
I know what you are refering to, as I myself have a Zune. I purchased a few songs, only to find it was pointless.

The problem with the Zune software, is that it runs a program in the background as soon as the computer boots. You can disable it and delete the drm folder if you move fast enough, but when you open up the Zune software, it reinstalls the latest IBX... it was a pain to figure out that that was causing the problem with my IBX version...

I would recommend you find another service provider... as because Zune is a Microsoft Product, it will always be updated as it is their "example."

TuffWoD
22nd February 2007, 21:39
Is there any way to make the WMP 11 Upgrade box to stop popping up? It seems like the frequency of pop ups has increased

omjeremy
22nd February 2007, 23:58
It's interesting... I recently decided to upgrade to WMP 11 because I was having some difficulties with the version of WMP I had. Strange enough, it upgraded to version 11.0.5721.5145. So FairUse4WM still works. I upgraded with the downloadable from Microsoft's website.

ratmaster9
23rd February 2007, 01:46
Microsft has begun to crack down on this and is trying every way to make it no longer work. They found my site about 8 hours after I released my instructions, and they had it shut down completly until I reuploaded everything minus the infringing files...

I think they are trying to get people to upgrade just out of annoyance...

I updated the download links to get the files on my site if anyone is wondering... I will try to always keep an up to date link in there so everyone can enjoy :)

Downloads Page (http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=downloads)

Quince
23rd February 2007, 11:22
I have a wmv file with some kind of DRM I'm not used to: every time I try to play it, WMP 11 says a license needs to be acquired, then I click OK and a "Media usage rights acquisition" dialog pops up, loading some webpage. Once the page loads, the Play button becomes enabled and the file plays normally. However, it makes me do this EVERY time I try to play the file... WTF? That file is important to me and I don't want to rely for playing it on the availability of some website that may go offline at any time. I can't even read the goddamn site as it's in Chinese, but I'd gladly pay for an un-DRMed version of this video. So, how do I deal with this?

blutach
23rd February 2007, 12:56
Quince - do you own this media file? If not, you are in violation of rule 6. Please take some time to read it.

Regards

Quince
23rd February 2007, 12:58
Of course I own it. Did you even read the description in my post? I have permission to play it. The problem is that it wants to connect to that site every time I play it, though after that it plays fine -- no restrictions. Indeed, the DRM was tacked on by someone distributing the file which originally was not DRMed (because the main video is in English with Americans in it, with some Chinese advertisement junk added to the beginning of the video, same as the website it connects to to get a licence). But sine I've not tracked down the original, I'm stuck with this version modified by some tool trying to get more website hits.

Blind Melon
23rd February 2007, 20:00
I just purchased a song from Napster, and I cannot get the file to be unprotected. I've tried using the "recover keys" in FairUse, but the program doesn't show up any keys... then I actually hit the "recover keys" button and it says "click start to begin", so I do and I get this error "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." What does this mean? Does this mean I cannot undrm the file?

Danj
23rd February 2007, 22:57
I get this error "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." What does this mean? Does this mean I cannot undrm the file?

Yes, that is exactly what it means.

blutach
24th February 2007, 15:10
Quince - permission to play and ownership are 2 different things. Plus you can lose the attitude. Sorry to hear you now have a file that has DRM. If you search, you'll find WMP11 is not the easiest to UnDRM from.

Regards

bond008
24th February 2007, 18:53
I have purchased wmv restricted files that required license, which I entered and they started running fine. However, when I tried to UnDRM them using the FairUse4WM program, I did not have much luck. The steps I followed are:

1. I Installed FairUse4WM 1.3 without any problems.
2. I opened FairUse4WM and clicked the “Recover Key” button (It says 0 Keys loaded”
3. I got the DrmClien.DLL has version 9.0. etc message, and when I pressed okay it went back to the first dialog box which says 0 keys loaded, and the only the Cancel button was still enabled (Exactlythe same window as in step 2).

As you can tell I am using WM 9, which should be okay. Moreover, my computer is running under Windows XP.


Next, upon getting help from an expert, I tried to individualize the windows player, and tried again. But now:

1. When pressing the Recover Key button, I got the following ,message: "Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys.....DrmClien.DLL has version 9.0.0.3250. Upon pressing Ok, I get
2. Preparing to launch Media Player ... Indivbox.key has version 10.0.0.3646.... When I press the OK button, I get
3. "Windows Error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store".

It asks me to retry/cancel, but if I retry I go back to step 1 again.


I also got the following advise from the expert:
"Note that some WM installations will have multiple ECC key-pairs, so you will likely have to "Extract Keys" using multiple licensed files. If you find a file that doesn't convert, try extracting keys wth it. Once your whole set of keys is extracted, you will no longer need to run WM per file"
Some media files (wma/wmv) have a same KID and use a same SID. For example :

<KID>September Video</KID>
<SID>xxxxxxxxxxyyyyyyy</SID>

Above key pair valid for all media you download for september video.(just an example)

But maybe provider change/update the SID for another files that use the same KID, but with different SID as below

<KID>September Video</KID>
<SID>yyyyyyyyzzzzzzzzz</SID>

To solve the problem, try to recover key again and convert the file ALONE not multiple or batch. Indeed, I have several files (about 100) that are proteected under the same license key.

So Itried to perform the following steps on a single file:

- Set Windows Media player (WMP) to prompt on license acquisition
- Open the file, and let WMP acquire the license
- Do NOT click "Play", leave the WMP license window open
- While the window is open, use FairUse4WM on the file

but I got the messages I detailed earlier ("Windows error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store").


So my question is WHAT ARE THE STEPS AND HOW TO EXTRACT THE KEYS??? When I only have one key!!!

Danj
24th February 2007, 21:48
As you can tell I am using WM 9, which should be okay. Moreover, my computer is running under Windows XP.

Easiest thing to do would be to update to Windows Media Player 10 (NOT 11). Do not reindividualize any further, if you do then you will receive an IBX version that is not compatible with FU4WM. You can download Windows Media Player 10 from Microsoft's web site here (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/A/12A31F29-2FA9-4F50-B95D-E45EF7013F87/MP10Setup.exe).

Quince
25th February 2007, 01:42
I don't mind going back to WMP11 beta, or whatever older version I need. My question is, I don't know the procedure for that type of DRM. FairUse4WM says that "At least one file with an active license is necessary." I don't even know what that means. Is a file that every time checks for a license when it's played and then loses it one with an active license or not? How do I do it in this case? If it retreives a license every time it's played, I'm assuming it goes away every time I close WMP. Then how can FairUse4WM extract it then if WMP is not still playing the file (yet it says WMP must be closed)?

Farwando
25th February 2007, 01:59
Im running windows vista x64 ultimate, using WMP11

Installed FairUse4Wm just fine but when i click on it it asks me to recover keys, i click on "recover keys" and it says that
"IBX components do not appear to be present." Then i click OK. Right after that, another thing pops up saying "FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed Dll to determine system specific information. No drmclien.dll found in path." I click ok again and another window opens saying " unhandled situation -25100 while Getting DRMv1 Private Key."

I dont know much about computers so any help would be much appreciated.

bond008
25th February 2007, 13:58
Easiest thing to do would be to update to Windows Media Player 10 (NOT 11). Do not reindividualize any further, if you do then you will receive an IBX version that is not compatible with FU4WM. You can download Windows Media Player 10 from Microsoft's web site here (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2/A/12A31F29-2FA9-4F50-B95D-E45EF7013F87/MP10Setup.exe).

Thanks DanJ. I followed your advice, but WMP 10 when runs gives the following message:
"A security update is required to play this file. Do you want to download this upgrade?"

To which I replied NO. But then I got the following message from FU4WM
"Unhandled situation -9008 while Creating Windows Media instance"
What to do next?

omjeremy
25th February 2007, 17:40
Vista is not supported with FairUse4WM. That's the major reason why I haven't upgraded yet.

Quince
26th February 2007, 00:51
Anyone?

blutach
26th February 2007, 01:21
Quince - please do not bump your posts.

Strike issued.

Regards

mmtux
26th February 2007, 17:36
Hello!
Sorry for my English, its not the best but i try to write as well...

a few days ago fu2wm 1.3 fix worked without any problems for me (windows xp, windows media player 11 final). but since i changed my napster account i get the following message, when the programm try to load the new keys:
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Fu4wm also dont crack the wma-files anymore.

I dont know why it isnt working now - it was working ok with the new media player 11 before. I hope you can help me :)

Thanks!

Danj
26th February 2007, 23:18
since i changed my napster account

it was working ok with the new media player 11 before.

When you've changed your Napster account it has upgraded your IBX (IndivBox.key) to a version that doesn't work with FairUse4WM.

mmtux
27th February 2007, 15:08
Ok thanks for your answer.

Is there any possibility to downgrade my IBX? Maybe to re-install the media player 10?

Thanks!

piotr67
28th February 2007, 11:53
I made some improvements to UserMan's source code for his C# app. Mainly it will save your path settings, it will batch up calls to FairUse so it will call it 1 time for X files (in some cases it may have to make multiple calls to FairUse), allows you to specify a seperate output path, allows you to delete the original files (assuming you use the seperate output path), and has the option to keep or remove the NoDRM prefix.

Use at your own risk, if you find any issues (I'm sure there are some) post repro steps and if I get time I will try and fix them. Thanks again to UserMan for his source code, I would have never gotten around to doing this if it wasn't for his code to get it started.

Download link:
http://s6.quicksharing.com/v/6981175/FU4WMCommander.zip.html


What fairusecommander is intented to do exactly.I've downloaded it but it couldn't initialized!! it doesn't work!

diablo2121
28th February 2007, 22:16
Does anyone happen to have a working link for the WMP 11.0.5705.5043 DRM downgrade fix?

omjeremy
1st March 2007, 00:10
Try this: http://www.yousendit.com/download/eURDRm8zTkFVVGw1VEE9PQ

It expires tomorrow.

Winse
1st March 2007, 03:41
Can anyone reupload the 1.3fix? I had it than deleted it after I couldnt get it to work. I lost hope on down grading until this last post.
*Crosses Fingers*

ratmaster9
1st March 2007, 04:28
Try checking out my instructions... they have worked for everyone who meets the requirements so far... If you follow the instructions exactly as they are written, you can get fairuse4wm working perfectly fine :)

http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm

Click on Instructions

There is also the download for fairuse 1.3 fix on the site... just click on the downloads link in the navigation bar.

As for the person wondering about the Windows Media Player 11 downgrade fix.. I post how to get the downgrade working, but it depends on what version you are downgrading to... Just check out the instructions...

Winse
1st March 2007, 05:25
Ratmaster,
You say you have ver 1.3fix but on your download section. I looked and you have 1.3v instead.

shookie
2nd March 2007, 11:14
----------------- Roll Back procedures (Windows Media Player 11 Final): -----------------

Step 1:

In Add/Remove Programs:

- Uninstall "Windows Media Player 11"
- - Restart Machine

- Uninstall "Windows Media Player 11 Run Time"
- - Restart Machine

- Uninstall "MS User-Mode Driver Framework Feature Pack 1.0 ..."
- - Restart Machine (Note: May warn that programs will not work. Disregard it.)

Step 2:

- Install Windows Media Player 11 (ver. 11.0.5705.5043)
- Run it and do the first time run setup screens. Don't forget to install URGE.
- Close the application

Step 3:

- Navigate to "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM"
- - Remove all files located in this directory. Try to avoid removing "Cache" sub directory itself.
Just open the Cache sub-directory and remove its content.

Step 4:

- Open Windows Media Player (IMPORTANT: DO NOT UPDATE WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER... EVER)
- - Press the "Alt" button and navigate to: Tools -> Options
- - Under the "Privacy Tab" uncheck: "Automatically check if protected files need to be refreshed"

Winse
2nd March 2007, 17:02
Great help, I still do not have the fix.

sonicbox
3rd March 2007, 10:45
shookie, your little "roll back procedure" basically tells people to violate the terms of the trial URGE subscription service. This is probably a violation of the rules here, and obviously against the spirit of fairuse4wm... this isn't content you "own."

shookie
3rd March 2007, 14:03
sorry.. didn't want it to look like that..

just wrote step by step what i do to remove my licenses


i guess they can remove that. sorry.

shookie
3rd March 2007, 14:06
shookie, your little "roll back procedure" basically tells people to violate the terms of the trial URGE subscription service. This is probably a violation of the rules here, and obviously against the spirit of fairuse4wm... this isn't content you "own."

edited my post.. that wasn't supposed to be there.

Spinstorm
5th March 2007, 00:50
Is there still no version that works on Vista?

Good thing I have a laptop with XP on it if there isnt!

Has anyone else noticed a drop in sound quality after removing the DRM? I am sure the WMA does not sound the same with it removed as it did before it was removed! Can anyone else hear what I am talking about?

Danj
5th March 2007, 16:02
Is there still no version that works on Vista?

No, and there isn't likely to be since Windows Media Player is a Protected Process under Vista and consequently would be much harder (although not impossible) to crack I imagine.

Has anyone else noticed a drop in sound quality after removing the DRM? I am sure the WMA does not sound the same with it removed as it did before it was removed! Can anyone else hear what I am talking about?

The only operation that is done on the file by FairUse4WM is the decryption, there is no re-encoding or lowering of bitrate unless you are using some program that converts your WMAs to MP3 or something like that. For example if you are unDRMing your WMAs then putting them on your iPod, yes there will be a drop in quality because iTunes automatically re-encodes them, since the iPod has no native WMA support.

Spinstorm
6th March 2007, 02:35
I swear I can hear a difference between the DRM WMA and the WMA with it removed!

Does anyone know a really good tool for ripping WMA to MP3 that works with very little sound quality loss?

razor1
6th March 2007, 03:31
i'm having the same trouble as most and i've done all the removing of windows 11 and i actually prefer wmp 10. I've also used several versions of fair use and i'm using the fu4wm13fix one.

I was wondering if it had to do with rhapsody. Cuz u suscribe to rhapsody and rhapsody 3.1 allows you to dl a wma without buying it like a lot of other programs...but you basically don't own it. Does that mean the drm remover won't work? Also, the whole C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe part of the rollback process didn't work cuz i didn't have that exe. Am i supposed to have it? Any help?

razor1
6th March 2007, 03:33
oh and spinstorm you should just use itunes. Just add the files to it and it gives you the option of converting your wma's into mp3.

Stingrey
6th March 2007, 10:30
Oh no, please donīt do that !!
Converting wmaīs into mp3īs comes with a severe loss in quality.

If you have to convert it to mp3, than use foobar2000 and lame.

mayan6174
6th March 2007, 11:29
Here

Windows Media Player 11 Beta2
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=2FE835832369E0DC&key=d8c6992ef8c36d2561dcbc37a5df33b0fb6ad2fb

FairUse4WM Fix
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=04D97D7025AC776F&key=718a81cd8b882989e5c11a1bbbafe3b25b15eb2c

petrus2
6th March 2007, 22:07
Oh no, please donīt do that !!
Converting wmaīs into mp3īs comes with a severe loss in quality.

If you have to convert it to mp3, than use foobar2000 and lame.

Are You (or anyone else) familiar with a program called SWITCH for converting audio files? I have used it to convert WMA's to MP3's with very good results.

**** March 8 2007 edit: I did not include a link to SWITCH in my original post. There is a free version of this software that converts WMA's to MP3's. I use it exclusively to convert my WMA's to MP3's. Here is the link:

http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html

This is not an attempt to spam. I am not affiliated with the company in any way and there is a free version for download. It just seemed that maybe no one had heard of this software or had not tried it and I wanted to provide a link to share what I think is a great free conversion tool. ****

tillerman
7th March 2007, 00:23
FU4 has been working fine but today when I tried to open it, the screen display would not come up. The task manager tells me it's running in the "processes" window, but no luck. Anyone else with this glitch?

mysekurity
7th March 2007, 00:49
tillerman: you might want to restart your computer. If an application freezes up like that, it can usually be fixed by restarting.

mysekurity
7th March 2007, 00:50
Has anyone lost their ability to un-drm after installing Urge's Automix addon? I'm a bit skeptical, as it requires you to download a program and close WMP.... I do like the feature however, and I'm wondering if the two are related.

Does anyone know?

tillerman
7th March 2007, 19:50
mysekurity: that was the first thing I did. Even deleted and reinstalled FU4 from my original download on my backup drive. Still no luck. Any suggestions? This one's got me stumped.

muzicmaken
7th March 2007, 22:11
I keep getting this....

.wma requires a different private key.


It just started doing that this week...I did the rollback and still get this...

DaForce
8th March 2007, 05:59
Hey guys,

Very handy little app works like a charm.

Had to roll back to windows media player beta 2 tho to get it to work (obviously).

Problem I have now is that DRM WMV files, cause Media Player to freeze when they finish playing or if I press cancel on the aquired licence screen (before they start playing) which I do in order to get the licence for FairUse4WM as they are single run licence type files.
The un-DRM'd files seem to play fine, in windows media player and media player classic.
I dont recall this happening before I rolled back to beta2.
The only way to close WMP is to force quit the process in task manager.

Any ideas?

blutach
8th March 2007, 09:53
If they are single run licences, then it is saying you don't own the content - only a licence to play it once. Attempting to UnDRM such content is against rule 6.

Regards

DaForce
9th March 2007, 00:22
Well the content is playable multiple times, it just needs to retrieve the licence each time. Not "single run" as such. I just didnt know what else to call it.

I didnt think it would be a problem to mention as viodentia mentioned how to get around it and that it would most likely be included in the next release of fairuse4wm.. therefore surely its not against rule 6?
Or am I missing something.
See his comments here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=881126#post881126

muzicmaken
9th March 2007, 06:35
I'm still getting this.... any ideas why?

.wma requires a different private key.

I did the rollback and deleted the DRM folder as suggested...but still says private key...

jermiahu
9th March 2007, 18:33
I have been following this forum on an off since the beginning. It is so long now though and I have a very basic question that may or may not have been answered somewhere along the line, but I cannot find that answer with my current search thread ability. Here it is:

Now that a significant number of people are changing over to Vista or are buying machines that come preloaded with Vista, is FairUse4WM going to be updated to work with that OS and of course current versions os WMP11?

I have my made for Vista machine partitioned with a copy of WinXP JUST FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of being able to run FairUse4WM. As you can imagine this is less than ideal, especially for a laptop user.

Again if this specific issue has been previously addressed, answered, etc. I am sorry, but I am very interested in the possibility of the creators of this most EXCELLENT piece of groundbreaking software for downloadable music subscribers to USE their music when where and how they want to motivate themselves to sove the VISTA issue, because then this would truely be one of the most important pieces of code written in the 21st Century!!!!

Thanx for your patience.

Jeremy K.

Danj
10th March 2007, 03:06
motivate themselves to solve the VISTA issue

Right, because there's really going to be a new version of FairUse4WM while there's an ongoing lawsuit searching for viodentia. Mm-hm. The discovery period Microsoft were granted was like 120 days, and that was starting in what, October, November last year? So you've got at least that long to wait, and then there'll probably be some further delays after that while Microsoft attempt to stop their case from fizzling out completely, so I wouldn't expect a new version of FairUse4WM until at least 2008 - if ever.

johnnyquid
10th March 2007, 04:12
My motherboard is starting to flake out. If I load a new machine with windows xp sp2 and install windows media player 10 will fairuse4wm still work? I assume that I will need to reindividualize. I read that reindividualization will install the lastest IBX which will make fairuse4wm not work. I read ratmaster9 instructions say to reindividualize using the link http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite. Will this install a IBX which will not work with fairuse4wm at this time?

rdn98
10th March 2007, 07:56
I run vista, but I haven't tried fu4wm in there yet, although I do have a winxp partition anyway.

What happens when you try to run in vista? Does it give you an error message? What if you try running in xp compatibility mode?

I suggest if you don't want to have an xp parition, setup a virtual OS on your system under vista. MS PC 2007 is free and you can do it.

mayan6174
11th March 2007, 04:01
Here

Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 1.0

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=F9239DED09F8F2F6&key=b3e1865c73ab56f2ce45d8d724339e26d3ec0f0f

The_Harbinger
11th March 2007, 20:35
I have a number of WMA files purchased with DRM from a download service. I'm running RockBox on my iPod mini. I can load and play music I ripped myself just fine. With the un-DRMmed files, I may see the appropriate title information on-screen (or not), but the files will not play. They play fine in Media Player 10 and jetAudio.

Are the files corrupt in some way, and is there a way to repair them if so? Or, does the blame rest with RockBox?

mysekurity
12th March 2007, 02:55
@Harbinger:

Does Rockbox natively support wma's? I thought they either didn't, or did but spottily (as with other Free software, it's hard for them to work with wma). Have you tried to encode it to a different format, possibly mp3, aac, or ogg?

sonicbox
12th March 2007, 06:54
...but I am very interested in the possibility of the creators of this most EXCELLENT piece of groundbreaking software for downloadable music subscribers to USE their music when where and how they want toJermiahu, I know you are new, but please pay attention to the forum rules and what "fair use" really is. fairuse4wm is not a a tool intended for everyone to violate 'rental' subscription license & terms of service. You do not have the rights to keep subscription content and "use the music where and how you want to." fairuse4wm should only be used on content you have 'purchased'.

The_Harbinger, Rockbox doesn't support WMA "out of the box." However, someone did wedge in support using code from ffmpeg: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984 Not sure what the current state of it is, though...

DepecheNYC
12th March 2007, 13:12
Automate UnDRM 1.0 vs. FairUse4WM

I decrypted a single file using both programs. The output file of both programs have different filesize. Why is that? What's the difference? Is there any difference in quality between the two?

bearshat
12th March 2007, 15:14
Does anyone know the last version of Windows Media Player 11 that wm4fu1.3fixed will work on?

omjeremy
13th March 2007, 02:06
11 beta 2

mysekurity
13th March 2007, 02:16
@bearshat: it runs on wmp11 final (hence the need for the "fix" version) up to IBX 11.0.6 (if you have 11.0.6 or greater, you can't run it). omjeremy is saying that the only way to have FU4WM work with wmp11 now is to use beta 2. Only wmp11 final users who have been "grandfathered in" (installed before the update to 11.0.6, and haven't updated since) can still use the tool.

I don't have much experience with Automate UnDRM, but I know that FU4WM's converted filesizes are *exactly* the same (at least on the kilobyte level). I don't know why they wouldn't be smaller, however. Maybe it's to fool the flag?

joshie10024
15th March 2007, 22:09
I had a v. 1.1 of fairuse4WM and I loved it so when I saw the v.1.3 was available I thought i would upgrade. Unfortunately I can't seem to get it to work properly. I continue to get the error message "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." when I try to retrieve new keys for my music. The message on the next scree says, "Attempting to recover DRMv1 keys. FairUse4WM will use a WM-installed DLL to determine system specific information. 'DrmCline.DLL' has version 10.0.0.3646" Pleas if anyone can help i would appreciate it greatly as I have tons of music waiting to go on my iPod.

milomannn
16th March 2007, 04:51
Looking for site in order to download FairUse4WM1.3fix. Had my computer seriously crash last month and now I am pretty wary of downloading programs from unfamiliar sources or that use .rar file compression. Can anyone recommend a source for the program they have tried and found to be virus free?
Thanks.

Danj
16th March 2007, 08:47
I continue to get the error message "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet."

Sorry but this means your iPod won't be seeing any songs any time soon because your Individualized Black Box DLL (IndivBox.key, the file that does all the DRM "donkey work") has been automatically updated by your music service to a version that's newer than FairUse4WM 1.3 can handle.

Just to sum up:
"IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet."
means
"IT WILL NOT WORK".

Some people have been able to "roll back" their Windows Media Player installations, with varied results, but any rollback procedure will destroy any existing licenses for downloaded music that you may have, so your music provider would have to allow redownloads.

milOtis
17th March 2007, 18:43
The URGE music service does not autoupdate, nor does it force IBX updates...you can still download files today and play them, strip them with FairUse4WM provided you followed the fix I posted 3 months ago...guess what....? IT STILL WORKS

But you have to use URGE + FairUse 4WM...even 1.2 works if you have 11 beta 2. I can't speak for other download services like Rhapsody, Yahoo, Sonic, or Napster...I just know this works, so why not use it? URGE has pretty much everything.

::: milOtis

rdn98
18th March 2007, 23:58
Yup, Urge is nice, but paying each month becomes a hassle.

I've just started using Ruckus networks, its free legit music for college kids and the like. It has helped me explore new genres of music and entice me into buying things I would probably never heard before.

zunefun
19th March 2007, 14:34
can sum one just give the link to download this again with the fix included in it as well?

rdn98
19th March 2007, 19:29
Ask and you shall receive:

http://download.yousendit.com/7AE6291D5F9FF7D6

zunefun
20th March 2007, 17:01
thanks now that will work all i do is download it and set the program up and thats it? ill try it after i get off work and if that works ..i owe you a million...thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ill let you guys know when i get it up and running !!!!!!!!!