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zunefun
20th March 2007, 23:50
what dose this mean? Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

omjeremy
21st March 2007, 03:44
Dude, read post 995. I don't mean to be rude, but... c'mon. This problem has been brought up countless time in the thread.

zunefun
21st March 2007, 14:20
i am not that good with these kinda of things...so if you dont mind me asking i need help...just i dont know what i am reading i honestly just need this spoon fed to me..in a way..but i just really want to know what i means from my take on this whole thing is that it ment i have to wait for an update? call me slow if you want i just want to strip this music and be done with the whole deal

zunefun
21st March 2007, 14:23
Sorry but this means your iPod won't be seeing any songs any time soon because your Individualized Black Box DLL (IndivBox.key, the file that does all the DRM "donkey work") has been automatically updated by your music service to a version that's newer than FairUse4WM 1.3 can handle.

Just to sum up:
"IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet."
means
"IT WILL NOT WORK".

Some people have been able to "roll back" their Windows Media Player installations, with varied results, but any rollback procedure will destroy any existing licenses for downloaded music that you may have, so your music provider would have to allow redownloads.

OOOO...SO WHAT DO I DO NOW? JUST WAIT?

WalterK
21st March 2007, 14:52
Zunefun you COULD try a virtual machine with either vmware or microsofts virtual pc.
Install windows XP (assuming you have your XP install/upgrade disc) on it and run the beta version of wmp 11 if your purchase requires it , if not stick with wmp 10 and remove drm from in the virtual pc and simply transfer the drm free files to your vista music folder.
Until there is an update to FairUse to combat the new IBX this is the way I recommend if you updated wmp or are in vista.

Edit
And remember wmp11 does not allow license backups, ms says its the responsibility of the content provider and not them to ensure that

zunefun
21st March 2007, 15:17
Zunefun you COULD try a virtual machine with either vmware or microsofts virtual pc.
Install windows XP (assuming you have your XP install/upgrade disc) on it and run the beta version of wmp 11 if your purchase requires it , if not stick with wmp 10 and remove drm from in the virtual pc and simply transfer the drm free files to your vista music folder.
Until there is an update to FairUse to combat the new IBX this is the way I recommend if you updated wmp or are in vista.

Edit
And remember wmp11 does not allow license backups, ms says its the responsibility of the content provider and not them to ensure that

lamonds terms please..

zunefun
21st March 2007, 16:43
so i was told all i need to do was just switch over to wmp nine?

zunefun
21st March 2007, 19:15
so i was advised that i should un install windows media player 11 then go to windows media player nine..so anyone know where i could pick up nine at?

omjeremy
21st March 2007, 19:20
zunefun, follow the directions here: http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=instructions

zunefun
21st March 2007, 19:32
thanks...!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad props...ill try it when i get home from work!

blutach
21st March 2007, 22:18
OOOO...SO WHAT DO I DO NOW? JUST WAIT?This is uncalled for. Read and observe the rules please - especially rule 2 on how to behave and rule 12 on bumping (which you continue to do).

Regards

mayan6174
22nd March 2007, 11:46
Some download mirror

WMP 11 Beta2
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=E25574D66E69C29C&key=74b2e390a54fb1932237a81c43687d39bd7c2df5

FairUse4WM 1.3 Fix
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=check_download&ufid=305601813BCA14B3&key=ac7c60acb8105af7ede664cf3e3073a3a6216d2b

Expire 2weeks

Thank you

NHS
23rd March 2007, 00:33
Hi

I am trying to extract keys using FairUse4WM 1.3fix - when i try to extract the keys, i get the following message:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv03.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

I have tried rolling the installation back to v10 but that didnt work, any suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks

WalterK
23rd March 2007, 06:19
IBX 11.0.6000.6324 is not supported so it will not work.

To get back to a version that will work requires a clean install of windows media player.
Either by following the method posted by omjeremy above or moving your music to a virtual install of windows with an earlier version of wmp and trying to remove the drm that way.
Note in the virtual pc or on your real one if you use omjeremy's method.
NEVER UPGRADE wmp.
If your licenses call for an upgrade to wmp 11 use beta 2 or beta 3 of it.

NHS
23rd March 2007, 09:50
Thanks for the reply.

My laptop was initially running WMP11 (latest version) - i have downgraded to WMP10 but still get the message "IBX 11.0.6000.6324 is not supported".

Any help appreciated.

Thanks

Oneill5491
23rd March 2007, 11:43
I don't know if there was a post about this earlier, but is there a way to stop WMP from asking you if you would like to install the available update (from beta 2 to final)? It keeps frickin asking me like every 30 minutes and one of these days I'm going to accidently click "yes".

WalterK
23rd March 2007, 13:19
NHS you have to delete the folder called DRM in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\ (enable show hidden files and folders in windows explorer) if its a downgrade.
and reverify the Indiv Key.
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite

Note doing this REMOVES all your licenses so you WILL have to do the whole username/password thing again for all your drm media.

Which is why the virtual machine method is better, encase it doesn't take you will still have your drm licenses on your real pc.

Oneill5491 you will have to be vigilante there is supposed to be a setting to disable update notification in wmp11 beta .
Maybe i am wrong about that.

NHS
23rd March 2007, 13:47
WalterK

Thanks for your reply.

When i enable hidden folders, there is no DRM folder when I navigate to C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\.

I can go straight to the directory by putting C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\ into to address bar, but when I do this, nothing is in the DRM folder.

Any suggestions appreciated.

WalterK
23rd March 2007, 16:11
Its been a while since i had to remove windows drm.
After i got the drm off my files i ditched and have never again bought windows crippled drm files in any form.

If in XP and your drm folder is not there in C:\Documents and Settings\
Make sure show hidden folders is enabled (i know you already said it is but never hurts to check again) In Windows Explorer (you won't find this option in Internet Explorer two different programs) go to Tools->Folder Options.
Then Select The "View" Tab look for the heading Hidden Files and Folders and make sure "show hidden files and folders" is checked click Apply next look and see if "hide extension for known file types" and "hide protectecd operating system files" is unchecked if they are not uncheck them then hit Apply again, then Ok. Leave there and look in "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users" again, if its still not there head over to the Control Panel.

Go to add remove programs make sure "Show Updates" is checked and look for anything ANYTHING related to windows media player 11 and uninstall specifically you are looking for is "windows media player runtime" to remove but it doesn't hurt to remove anything else (somewhere in this thread is a listing of "safe" security updates for wmp aka updates that don't cause you to lose drm removal)
Restart/reboot after the uninstall look once more "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users.
If you still see nothing, try to launch wmp depending on what type of upgrade you did for wmp it might revert back to version 9 or 10 or give you an error about missing this file or that file and needs to be reinstalled.
At this point you have 3 choices you can.
1) Revert to wmp 9 using your XP install disc by adding it via add/remove programs and use the Indiv site to get the wmp Indiv Key.
2) Install ms version of wmp 10 that you can download from the ms wmp site, again after installing using the Indiv site to get the Indiv key.
2) Or install wmp 11 beta 2 from some links given in here and once again visiting the Indiv site to get a previous version of the Indiv key that works with Fair use.

Now of all the choices choice 3 is the safest bet cause if you use 9 or 10 the site in question might require an upate to version 11 and they will use wmp 11 final and then you are right back where you started.
Once they see you are using wmp 11 most sites won't try to get you to update, what you might get is ms telling you to update from beta to final with the little popup boxes of theirs in wmp.

Hope this helps if after all this it STILL doesn't work.
Find yourself a copy of Nlite (google search) make a slip stream install of XP from your XP install disc (Make it small with windows media player 10 or 11 beta 2 added instead of the default wmp 09, Nlite has info on how to incorporate software and software updates into the custom install disc) Get yourself a copy of virtual pc or vmware server (google search and both are free) give yourself some free space on your harddrive (3 to 5 gbs) and create a virtual machine and drm remove from there.

NHS
23rd March 2007, 16:54
WalterK, thanks for the reply. Once i can see the DRM folder, should i delete the folder or just a file inside?

WalterK
23rd March 2007, 18:32
The whole folder just to be on the safe side.

SalSimp
25th March 2007, 03:55
I don't know if there was a post about this earlier, but is there a way to stop WMP from asking you if you would like to install the available update (from beta 2 to final)?

Yes there is. . . .

1. Reboot Windows in SAFE Mode
2. Go to Program Files>Windows Media Player
3. Find setup_wm.exe
4. Rename it to anything else (e.g. setup_wm0.exe)
5. Reboot Windows

Works also by deleting setup_wm.exe, but renaming is better just in case you want o put it back. There may be other ways of avoiding the nag, but this one works for me.

Note: You have to be in SAFE Mode or else the Windows File Protection feature will put a new setup_wm.exe in the directory.

mysekurity
25th March 2007, 05:32
What is it about Beta 2 that allows you to not have to have the newest ibx? If I have an original installer for WMP11 Final when it first came out, will that work when moving to a new computer?

Oneill5491
26th March 2007, 04:27
Yes there is. . . .

1. Reboot Windows in SAFE Mode
2. Go to Program Files>Windows Media Player
3. Find setup_wm.exe
4. Rename it to anything else (e.g. setup_wm0.exe)
5. Reboot Windows

Works also by deleting setup_wm.exe, but renaming is better just in case you want o put it back. There may be other ways of avoiding the nag, but this one works for me.

Note: You have to be in SAFE Mode or else the Windows File Protection feature will put a new setup_wm.exe in the directory.
Hey thanks for the tip man.

Btw, is it pretty much a given now that the author of FairUse won't be comming back to make a new version?

blutach
26th March 2007, 05:37
Who knows O'Neill? He might be among us still. No-one's crystal ball is any better than yours.

Regards

mysekurity
26th March 2007, 17:48
Well, since no one responded to my last few posts, I decided to test it out for myself, and I can conclusively say that Urge's AutoMix update does not update your ibx. It's a truly great feature that clues me into what I should buy, and I highly recommend it to all Urge users.

So there ya go. In case anyone else was wondering...

NHS
27th March 2007, 11:29
WalterK

Thanks for your help - that worked a treat.

zunefun
28th March 2007, 15:24
okay so i gave up...is there anything eles besides this program?

Itsdon
28th March 2007, 17:16
Try Tunebite. Not as elegant, not free, but it works.

WalterK
29th March 2007, 04:19
tunebite creates a lossy format.
If this is for audio i'd say you are better off using a freeware app than can record your audio while its playing and save it to uncompressed wav.
Like say Audacity.
Note Audacity will not playback wma files protected or not but it can record audio that is playing on your pc.

hicux
29th March 2007, 22:30
why people dont change the subject? We are repeating the same story here all the time. Let's talk about something new plz? FairUSEWM 1.3 is working so good with me but u need to roll back to windows media player 9. I am not going to discuss this anymore. Good Luck!

blutach
29th March 2007, 23:09
Yes. I agree. People who ask the same question over and over are simply not using the very good search feature on the board.

Let us not go into how to make this program work ad infinitum.

Regards

CademiaX
29th March 2007, 23:49
found a work around for using the lastest version of fairuse4wm with the lastest version of wmp11 and ibx.

If you cant get back to wmp10, get a program like vmware or virtual pc, and install windows xp with wmp10.

Now I figured this out by mistake, install your music service under the virtual pc, use fairuse4wm to recover the keys..

the keys are stored in my documents as blackbox-keys.txt, simply copy that to your real desktop and close virtual pc.

put blackbox-keys.txt in my documents, run fairuse4wm, add protected music and enjoy using the lastest version of wmp11

mysekurity
31st March 2007, 04:56
Just as a warning, MS is pushing Update 929399 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929399) to counter a service's inabilty to "extract metering data from some portable devices that support metering" through its Windows Update automatic update program. This update includes IBX 11.0.6, which is a definite bad thing. To avoid the update, chose the "custom install" option when prompted, and uncheck it. Click "next" and then "don't ask me to install this again".

mysekurity
3rd April 2007, 02:51
Windows Media Player is forcing me to update "a security component". Any way around this? Probably not, correct?

setarip_old
3rd April 2007, 04:10
@mysekurity

Check out the listings at the following link (scroll about 1/3 down re: "disabling"):

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Windows+Update%22+and+%22settings&btnG=Google+Search

Itsdon
3rd April 2007, 15:35
found a work around for using the lastest version of fairuse4wm with the lastest version of wmp11 and ibx.

If you cant get back to wmp10, get a program like vmware or virtual pc, and install windows xp with wmp10.

Now I figured this out by mistake, install your music service under the virtual pc, use fairuse4wm to recover the keys..

the keys are stored in my documents as blackbox-keys.txt, simply copy that to your real desktop and close virtual pc.

put blackbox-keys.txt in my documents, run fairuse4wm, add protected music and enjoy using the lastest version of wmp11

Interesting. Any idea if using this under Vista will work?

mysekurity
4th April 2007, 02:27
@setarip_old: I've ignored the automatic update (I was alerting others so that they would not fall for it).

WMP told me that I needed to update my security component in order to stream one of the songs. Eventually and reluctantly, I agreed to the upgrade (not the player upgrade). It processed, and allowed me to stream the song, but not download it. I restarted the player, and found it was still the same version, I could download/stream songs, and still use FU4WM. I haven't yet restarted, so I'm not sure if that kills it, but I doubt it.


@Itsdon: The virtual machine will work under vista with WinXP installed on the virtual machine, but vista's WMP is at 11.0.6, which is too great of a version for FU4WM, and its protected system files won't allow any modifications. Until a workaround is created, Vista users must use a virtual machine with XP in order for the program to work.

StreamRipper
4th April 2007, 19:47
Can someone post a valid link for FU4WMCommander, 'coz the old one no longer works.

Please help!

StreamRipper
5th April 2007, 04:59
Please stop asking the same questions over and over again. Use the forum search to find the answers first!

Here are some direct links that will simplify your search efforts:


Help to remove DRM on Windows Vista (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1017)
Download Fairuse4WM 1.4 for free (will there ever be any upgrade to FU4WM?) (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=852)
Batch DRM removal with FairUse4wm: UnDRM multiple Window Media files at once with FU4WMCommander (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=965)
FairUse4WM error: filename.wmv does not appear to be licensed to you
(http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=887)
FairUse4WM error: No keys loaded (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=872)
FairUse4WM error: UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Windows Error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store
(http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=865)
FairUse4WM error: different private key (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=742)
unDRMing without a license. (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367)
How to crack Windows Media Player DRM (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/removing-DRM/faq-crack-Windows-Media-Player-DRM.htm)
DRM removal software (Not only FairUse4WM and Tunebite) (http://all-streaming-media.com/remove-DRM-protection/)
How to remove DRM from Windows Media Player files with fu4wm13fix (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/removing-DRM/faq-how-to-remove-DRM-from-Windows-Media-Player-files-with-fu4wm13fix.htm)
Windows Media Player Individualization Process (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/removing-DRM/faq-Windows-Media-Player-Individualization-Process.htm)
How to uninstall and roll back Windows Media Player to a previous version (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/media-players/faq-Windows-Media-Player-Uninstall-and-roll-back-to-previous-version.htm)
Free download of Windows Media Player 11, 10, 9, 7.1, 6.4 for Windows, Mac OS and Windows Mobile (http://all-streaming-media.com/faq/media-players/faq-free-download-of-Windows-Media-player.htm)

nick852
5th April 2007, 15:03
The official method to disable Automatic Updates with Windows Media Player is described here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/278960.

To insert the necessary value for WMP 7.0 or later automatically into your registry, you can download the file http://rapidshare.com/files/24461662/DisableWMPAutoUpdate.reg.html.

xwings
6th April 2007, 16:31
norton AV is very shitty like a blind guardian :-)


You guys are funny...
I have comcast and they offer free Mcafee.
That's popup warning screen keep poping up every second that I click something. It's just so annoying. I uninstalled it and install Avast the free version instead. It looks much cooler too...

TehMark
6th April 2007, 21:16
Microsoft dropped their case against this dood. Sweet!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/06/microsoft-drops-case-against-fairuse4wm-creator-viodentia/

resource
6th April 2007, 22:10
Microsoft dropped the suit, so hopefully FairUse 1.4 will appear soon.

killerhamster
7th April 2007, 05:06
Well, I don't think so, engadget sais M$ dropped the case because they just couldn't find him, so now if he releases 1.4 they would just reopen the case. Plus, if he wasn't in prison all the time he had the opportunity to work on 1.4, and I think the reason why we're still using 1.3 is just because WMP11 is so hard to crack, and not that viodentia could not release it or work on it because he was searched by the Police or Microsoft or who ever.

WalterK
7th April 2007, 15:48
i'm glad that the john doe lawsuit has been dropped and i am also glad for folks like myang and viodentia with their removal tools, but the only way to stop this folks is to stop purchasing drm music.
Once i had my drm off i stopped buying drm infused music tracks.
In the beginning i can say i didn't know any better but now i do.

Deihmos
8th April 2007, 21:44
i'm glad that the john doe lawsuit has been dropped and i am also glad for folks like myang and viodentia with their removal tools, but the only way to stop this folks is to stop purchasing drm music.
Once i had my drm off i stopped buying drm infused music tracks.
In the beginning i can say i didn't know any better but now i do.

You and I know that people are not purchasing DRM music then using this tool. People are renting the music through the music subscriptions then removing the DRM from the music. If you purchased the music you can burn it to a CD or convert it to MP3 to remove the DRM.

SalSimp
9th April 2007, 00:39
blutach: you are most correct. I have deleted the comment.

blutach
9th April 2007, 01:16
This discussion about lawsuits etc is well off topic.

Regards

bigdog660
9th April 2007, 03:49
You and I know that people are not purchasing DRM music then using this tool. People are renting the music through the music subscriptions then removing the DRM from the music. If you purchased the music you can burn it to a CD or convert it to MP3 to remove the DRM.

Speak for yourself.

blutach
9th April 2007, 06:56
Back on topic please. Last warning.

Rants etc belong elsewhere.

Regards

rdn98
9th April 2007, 21:33
What is the link to the one program where not only does it remove the drm for you, but it also renames your files to take off the [NODRM] tag?

NokiaFanatic
10th April 2007, 15:31
I use tag and rename for that. It works great as you can download a cover album art picture for use in itunes,If you havce the whole cd that is, as well as grab when it was made, what record company, a description of the music cd, ect. But all i use it for is to grab the correct way of the song titles and cover art. I normally go for full cds when i download. A sickness I have. I have over 80 gigs of music and some i dont even like - but hey - it was avalible. Plus i transfered a lot of cds of y parents to mp3.

Ohg thats another program i use. DB poweramp. I transfer everything to .mp3 instead of wma. That way my ipod will play it along with any other device compatabile of mp3.

My progress is download music - umm purchase music is the official way - then strip the drm, then convert to mp3, then take the full album and put into tag and rename to grab album art and offical titles. A lengthy process, but my collection is for the most part very good.

lucas2365
11th April 2007, 02:10
What is the absolute latest version of WMP11 that FairUse4WM will work with? I've done a clean install of XP and want to use FU4M with WMP11 but without the instability of the beta versions.

bearshat
11th April 2007, 03:59
WMP 11 beta 2.

I asked this question last month and got a very good answer that can be found near the bottom of page 50 of this thread.

FredThompson
11th April 2007, 05:03
That link is expired. FairUse4WM 2006-12-09 FIX (formerly 2006-11-27) is the most recent I've found. Unfortunately, there have been some updates since then which means...newer downloads are still locked. Grrrr...

rdn98
11th April 2007, 05:36
The tag and rename program is awesome! It makes it easy to rename those mp3 files now.

If you really need fairuse4wm, there are torrents available it looks like.

mysekurity
12th April 2007, 12:48
Version 11.0.5**** (as long as it's not 11.0.6 or higher, you're good).

mysekurity
12th April 2007, 17:10
The program you're thinking of is FairUse Commander. I can't find a link for it anymore, but it's the most useful renamer because it integrates so well into FU4WM

asm108
13th April 2007, 01:39
Hope it works

asm108
14th April 2007, 09:00
got fairuse v.2 and can't get it to strip drm? What's up?

blutach
14th April 2007, 09:21
asm108 - your posts are essentially meaningless and do not enable anyone to help you.

No-one here has a crystal ball. You will need to describe your problem in detail. Failing that, please do not make further meaningless posts - see rule 11.

Regards

hicux
16th April 2007, 16:32
Hi to everybody! Long time no see u! Im so happy that Mocosoft couldnt find V yet, xD. the version 1.3 fix is still working and I will upload the commander and the fix now. Good Luck!!
hicux

hicux
16th April 2007, 16:40
Ok! Here I am again and this time I uploaded all the files u need guys. Plz. Try to use Windows Media 9 and dont update or upgrade anything otherwise u will be edited.. Enjoy and good luck!

http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=3K38FIAY

hicux
16th April 2007, 16:43
Now I am gonna change the name of the file but it will be the same file so u have alternatives links to download it. Why did i change the file with another name because sometimes they dont realize it is DRM tool, so maybe they dont delete this file. Anyway I can upload it anywhere.

http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=53EE2LJS

P.S if u need the file again. Just ask me!

hicux
16th April 2007, 16:50
Hey Blutach! Sorry if put it down with going through the rules but I needed to express myself what i really feel about mocosoft. I remember when I was watching the news 2 months ago and microsoft said that he will give 10 000 dollars if someone hack the code in Windows Vista! I guess they should give the amount already 'cause there are a lot of toys to activate Windows Vista and etc... I guess V will come soon with FairUse1.4.

rdn98
16th April 2007, 17:18
Finally fairuse commander, thanks dude!

blutach
17th April 2007, 01:47
I dunno about hacking Vista (any discussion is strictly against rule 6), but I wish you'd learn what the edit button is there for. 4 posts in a row in short time is bewildering.

And, mind the language please - all members should realise that this forum is open to the public and that includes young enthusiasts.

Regards

Airlik
19th April 2007, 01:31
You and I know that people are not purchasing DRM music then using this tool. People are renting the music through the music subscriptions then removing the DRM from the music. If you purchased the music you can burn it to a CD or convert it to MP3 to remove the DRM.

Perhaps some folks are... I just used it to buy the tune (I have no problem paying for music - just hate DRM because my iHP140 won't play that crap) and remove the DRM without going through the lossy steps of burning and re-ripping. I had a few too many beers one night and for some reason let Windows Update install their v11 WMP. Now I've just stopped buying DRM music - who loses there? eMusic doesn't have all the music I'd like it to, but at least I can pay for it, compensate the artists, and not have crippled music files.

FredThompson
19th April 2007, 03:21
Burning to CD then making an MP3 takes longer, costs more and results in lower quality. Try playing DRM from a portable player which is plugged into a dash player, laptop or receiver and used as a storage device...

mantis2k
21st April 2007, 20:28
Is anyone able to remove the license from this file using fu4wm13fix.exe?

Link removed

I'm having trouble using fu4wm13fix.exe + WMP9 under Windows 2000.

blutach
21st April 2007, 23:05
@mantis2k

Please do not post links to DRM protected material. See rule 6.

Regards

asm108
22nd April 2007, 00:40
I see and read about this program... but where is the actual download?

asm108
22nd April 2007, 00:43
oops... sorry

asm108
22nd April 2007, 00:57
I can't seem to find a valid link to this program. So very frustrating :(

rdn98
22nd April 2007, 06:00
http://download.yousendit.com/4CCB0EDF2A64466F

milOtis
22nd April 2007, 18:43
I have FairUse4WM working under Vista by using VitualPC 2007 (free from Microsoft) to run Windows XP within Vista

It's kinda funny...I'm running Windows XP emulated in Windows Vista on an Apple iMac :) Hehe

Anyway, it works great since FairUse4WM and Windows Media Player think they are running in Windows XP, so I just used my same old 12-09 fix to manually downgrade after I had gotten all the Windows updates.

::: milOtis

joshcali
23rd April 2007, 06:24
ok, I get this error when I try to "recover keys"

"IBX components do not appear to be present"

when I clicik ok, I get this error:

"FairUse4WM will use a WM-Installed DLL to determine system specific information.

"DRMClien.DLL has version 10.0.0.3802"

any ideas ? I tried playing a file from
ezdrm.com, but it didn't do anything so far...

joshcali
23rd April 2007, 06:34
also, I'm still using windows media player 9
(never upgraded I think...)

joshcali
23rd April 2007, 06:46
also... a little more info... when I go to this link:
http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

the upgrade button is grayed out, and my windows media player is
9.00.00.3349

ratmaster9
23rd April 2007, 06:56
The easiest solution that I have found to work as long as you follow it word for word is at http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm . So long as you follow it word for word, and you meet all the requirements listed on their site, it should work. Its worked for the 5 computers I've set it up on and a few of my friends too... Give it a shot, as its worth a try.

milOtis
23rd April 2007, 08:03
The easiest solution that I have found to work as long as you follow it word for word is at http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm . So long as you follow it word for word, and you meet all the requirements listed on their site, it should work. Its worked for the 5 computers I've set it up on and a few of my friends too... Give it a shot, as its worth a try.
um..lol...yep, the same instructions that i posted back in november. still works.

::: milOtis

Itsdon
23rd April 2007, 16:41
I have FairUse4WM working under Vista by using VitualPC 2007 (free from Microsoft) to run Windows XP within Vista

It's kinda funny...I'm running Windows XP emulated in Windows Vista on an Apple iMac :) Hehe

Anyway, it works great since FairUse4WM and Windows Media Player think they are running in Windows XP, so I just used my same old 12-09 fix to manually downgrade after I had gotten all the Windows updates.

::: milOtis
According to MS Virtual PC download site VPC won't work on Vista Premium, is that correct? If so, that bites. Perhaps I should simply install Windows XP and dual boot. I'd rather use VPC within Vista though - has anyone tried to install it under Vista Premium?

ratmaster9
23rd April 2007, 21:38
They arn't the same...

Anyways... it would have helped if I had read your posts... it would have cut down the time I speant figuring this out...

hicux
24th April 2007, 18:12
I hope Viodentia comes back with the new version of his amazing toy. Come on Viodentia. We both are waiting for...
Anyway, wherever u are u made a wonderful job and that makes sense and credit. U win!!hope to see u soon buddy!:thanks:

hicux
24th April 2007, 18:13
What kind of software did Viodentia use to make such a wonderful program? Any clue to try to update something.

hicux
24th April 2007, 18:22
hey admin, u are really annoying with your rules. I guess I didnt do anything wrong. Im sick and tired of you rules, I guess u dont have anything to do than try to correct any word or expression. Can u help more instead of writing who makes this and that?? I cant believe it!

milOtis
25th April 2007, 15:28
Virtual PC 2007 runs on Vista Ultimate just fine. I haven't tested other versions of Vista, because I only have Ultimate

::: milOtis

CER22
26th April 2007, 18:24
Hello everyone! I've been downloading video from unbox and removing the drm. For the first time lastnight I got an error for just one of the videos. It would show that it removed the drm then it would show an error and delete the undrm video. Anyone know what could be wrong? The video is downloaded completely and plays fine with drm.

UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Size Error: 3472328296227680304 cannot be truncated to 808464432.

EDIT: I found a way around this. As the fairuse was removing the drm, i played the undrm video file in WMP until fairuse was finished then the fairuse error came up and i hit close. Since the undrm video was still playing it wouldn't automatically delete. So all is ok!

milOtis
29th April 2007, 07:57
2007-04-29 Fix for WMP11/DRM running Windows VISTA (or XP):
INCLUDES: Windows Media Player 11.0.5705.5043 + FairUse4WM 1.3(fix) + instructions

mirror links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PNEG9F20

http://rapidshare.com/files/28495302/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2007_04_29_DRM_FIX.zip

http://files-upload.com/197061/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html


NOTE: This is intended for people running Windows Vista as their main OS. These instructions include how to set up Virtual PC within Vista, and get FairUseWM working again. All you need is a Windows XP disc.

(Tested under Home Basic/Premium, Business, and Ultimate). This ALSO works on XP...you can just run an older version of XP within Virtual PC on your updated XP host OS.

Here it is working, I installed Virtual PC yesterday, and Windows XP today, so this is 100% working and can be done by anyone using Vista. I am doing this on an intel MAC, so anyone should be able to do this.

Screenshot:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7043/20070429drmfixez0.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070429drmfixez0.jpg)

::: milOtis

milOtis
29th April 2007, 11:45
P.S. - You can installed Virtual PC on XP also, so you can run an older version of XP on your more updated version of XP. That way if you can get your main host OS to work with FairUse4WM, then you can at least get the virtual PC one to work with it, so these instructions work for anyone who needs FairUse4WM to work. This is a guaranteed method, since you are doing a clean install of XP in your virtual machine, and as long as you don't update it will keep working.

The "2007-04-29" fix should be the end to everyone's problems...just load Virtual PC and just run a more out-of-date XP within your main OS. All you will be using it for is downloading music and FairUse4WM so you only need to tell Virtual PC to allocate like 128mb ram while it's running...You can also set up a shared folder to move the new un-DRM'd files back over to your host OS, so it's just like having another networked computer.

Sx66gns
29th April 2007, 19:46
2007-04-29 Fix for WMP11/DRM running Windows VISTA (or XP):
INCLUDES: Windows Media Player 11.0.5705.5043 + FairUse4WM 1.3(fix) + instructions

mirror links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PNEG9F20

http://rapidshare.com/files/28495302/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2007_04_29_DRM_FIX.zip

http://files-upload.com/197061/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html


NOTE: This is intended for people running Windows Vista as their main OS. These instructions include how to set up Virtual PC within Vista, and get FairUseWM working again. All you need is a Windows XP disc.

(Tested under Home Basic/Premium, Business, and Ultimate). This ALSO works on XP...you can just run an older version of XP within Virtual PC on your updated XP host OS.

Here it is working, I installed Virtual PC yesterday, and Windows XP today, so this is 100% working and can be done by anyone using Vista. I am doing this on an intel MAC, so anyone should be able to do this.

Screenshot:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7043/20070429drmfixez0.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070429drmfixez0.jpg)

::: milOtis

lol , jesus man.

CademiaX
30th April 2007, 00:55
So after hours of digging around about stuff on vista I figured out how to remove WMP11 and install WMP10, I will post an indepth tutorial on how do it either later tonight or tomorrow!

milOtis
30th April 2007, 04:35
So after hours of digging around about stuff on vista I figured out how to remove WMP11 and install WMP10, I will post an indepth tutorial on how do it either later tonight or tomorrow!

the people who use URGE will need WMP11 to even run URGE, so that wouldn't help those users, that's why i posted the fix...makes WMP11 work (which helps all users no matter what service you use, urge or not)

bigjohn
30th April 2007, 04:36
guys -
bought a bunch of songs... need to convert them to mp3 so they'll play in my new car deck. Anyone point me to a quick tutorial to get this software installed and working on win2k?

mysekurity
30th April 2007, 06:23
After they've been un-drm'd, you can use dbPoweramp. Download it, and it'll work like a dream.

(You'll need the wma plugin, however)

mysekurity
30th April 2007, 06:28
Let me just throw on my two cents, however...

It's OK to install most Windows updates. All critical updates are fine to install, it's the optional ones you gotta look out for, and even then most are clean (just make sure to look at the KB article to see what they're updating. The only update I've seen that forces you to update your IBX is one I detailed in a previous post).

Be safe!

bigjohn
30th April 2007, 11:53
After they've been un-drm'd, you can use dbPoweramp. Download it, and it'll work like a dream.

(You'll need the wma plugin, however)
who is this reply directed to??

mysekurity
30th April 2007, 17:12
who is this reply directed to??

You. You asked for a way of converting wmas to mp3s....

Or am I missing something?

crazyjackcracker
30th April 2007, 19:12
Maybe I am missing the point of the virtual PC, or my install is messed up. when I start up the VPC I can not access my "real" hard drive, only the "virtual" one. is this normal, or is there something I am missing here?

CademiaX
30th April 2007, 19:35
the people who use URGE will need WMP11 to even run URGE, so that wouldn't help those users, that's why i posted the fix...makes WMP11 work (which helps all users no matter what service you use, urge or not)

Well I dont use urge, I bet more ppl dont then do on here, and for those ppl I will show how this is done.

besides, VPC has to be the most time consuming way to go about it, why not just get a windows live cd.. thats how i was doing it, and I dont have to worry about moving files back and forth from VPC to my HDD.

I will be posting how to install WMP 10 on vista shorty!

milOtis
1st May 2007, 06:57
Maybe I am missing the point of the virtual PC, or my install is messed up. when I start up the VPC I can not access my "real" hard drive, only the "virtual" one. is this normal, or is there something I am missing here?


virtual pc is like having a virtual computer...runs on a virtual harddrive on your main harddrive. if you want access to your main computer, set up a shared folder. that's what i did on my virtual XP machine...then i also made that shared folder the direct download location of my URGE files, so i could go in, unDRM then, then access them from my main harddrive running Vista. It's a snap!

if you are talking about just being able to get your mouse out of the virtual pc windows, back onto your main desktop, just hold down the right ALT key while dragging the mouse out.

::: milOtis

CademiaX
1st May 2007, 08:07
Install Windows Media Player 10 on Vista 32/64-bit!

1. Boot Into SAFE MODE! (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx?mfr=true) - This won't work if you dont!

2. Disable Application Compatibility - This won't work if you dont!

A. Click Start, type "gpedit.msc" in the Start Search bar, press enter.

B. Expand "Administrative Templates", then expand "Windows Components",
find "Application Compatibility" (2nd one under Windows Components).

C. Double click "Remove Program Compatibility Property Page", Select enable,
then click "Next Setting" at the bottom.

D. Repeat Untill all settings are enabled.

3. Download Windows Media Player 10 With auto batch installer! - Created by me! :cool:
A. Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/28846725/321.rar.html

B. Extract the archive and right click on "Install.bat", click edit. Then click
Edit > Replace, Find what: Bobby | Replace with: *Your Vista User Name!*,
click replace all, save and exit.

C. Then run the included batch file "Install.bat"! (This is all automated,
if it askes you if you want to overwrite something, then the file is being used
by another process and cant be accessed, if it does happen, exit, make sure
you are in safe mode and that no other programs are running and run the
Install.bat again)

D. Follow the WMP10 installer instructions. (If it says wmp10 is already installed,
browse to \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\ and run wmplayer.exe, and if
that tells you file xxxx is version 10.xx, expecting version 11.xx, arrange icons by name,
select all the .inf files, right click > install, one wont work, it will tell you and the
rest will continue, after that run \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe)

4. Security component upgrade
A. Visit (IE ONLY): http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

milOtis
1st May 2007, 14:52
Well I dont use urge, I bet more ppl dont then do on here,

wrong buddy. it's $10 a month for unlimited downloads...they don't charge by the track, there are millions of users.

FYI - A Windows Live CD??? come on, you have to reboot into Windows Live to use it, then reboot your computer to get back into your regular Windows...what a pain. Once your VPC is set up, you can save the state of the desktop, so restarting it takes about 5 seconds, and you don't have to ever leave your original desktop. You can move files back and forth freely, that is why I posted this fix, works for XP users, Vista users, and ANY music download service, not just the few that only need WMP10 instead of 11.

::: milOtis

Itsdon
1st May 2007, 18:47
2007-04-29 Fix for WMP11/DRM running Windows VISTA (or XP):
INCLUDES: Windows Media Player 11.0.5705.5043 + FairUse4WM 1.3(fix) + instructions

mirror links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PNEG9F20

http://rapidshare.com/files/28495302/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=2007_04_29_DRM_FIX.zip

http://files-upload.com/197061/2007-04-29_DRM_FIX.zip.html


NOTE: This is intended for people running Windows Vista as their main OS. These instructions include how to set up Virtual PC within Vista, and get FairUseWM working again. All you need is a Windows XP disc.

(Tested under Home Basic/Premium, Business, and Ultimate). This ALSO works on XP...you can just run an older version of XP within Virtual PC on your updated XP host OS.

Here it is working, I installed Virtual PC yesterday, and Windows XP today, so this is 100% working and can be done by anyone using Vista. I am doing this on an intel MAC, so anyone should be able to do this.

Screenshot:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7043/20070429drmfixez0.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20070429drmfixez0.jpg)

::: milOtis

Microsoft says VPC 2007 won't work with Vista Premium (which I have) only Business or Ultimate. You say you've run this on Premium and Home, was there anything special you had to do to get it running or is MS lying about what versions it will install on?

CademiaX
1st May 2007, 21:09
wrong buddy. it's $10 a month for unlimited downloads...they don't charge by the track, there are millions of users.

FYI - A Windows Live CD??? come on, you have to reboot into Windows Live to use it, then reboot your computer to get back into your regular Windows...what a pain. Once your VPC is set up, you can save the state of the desktop, so restarting it takes about 5 seconds, and you don't have to ever leave your original desktop. You can move files back and forth freely, that is why I posted this fix, works for XP users, Vista users, and ANY music download service, not just the few that only need WMP10 instead of 11.

::: milOtis

Well, that saves me lots and TONS of resources.. and it took me about 20min to make a custom windows live cd, which btw i can boot in VPC or standalone ;) .. so win win compared to having a whole other OS virtually installed..

beside, WMP10 is working on vista with no problems, which means those versions of wmp11 that work with fairuse4wm can be installed too.. already did that btw.. works wonders :)

and Its gunna be an auto batch install like wmp10, no mess, just working software for all the music pirates out and about.

AND.. thats 2 ways we have beat M$ at the DRM game, so be happy and let ppl choose what they perfer and stop getting alll defensive about...

Guest
1st May 2007, 23:15
and Its gunna be an auto batch install like wmp10, no mess, just working software for all the music pirates out and about Offering help to pirates violates our forum rules. Please don't discuss that here.

milOtis
2nd May 2007, 04:51
Well, that saves me lots and TONS of resources.. and it took me about 20min to make a custom windows live cd, which btw i can boot in VPC or standalone ;) .. so win win compared to having a whole other OS virtually installed..

beside, WMP10 is working on vista with no problems, which means those versions of wmp11 that work with fairuse4wm can be installed too.. already did that btw.. works wonders :)

and Its gunna be an auto batch install like wmp10, no mess, just working software for all the music pirates out and about.

AND.. thats 2 ways we have beat M$ at the DRM game, so be happy and let ppl choose what they perfer and stop getting alll defensive about...


so how would someone go about using your instructions, but for WMP11 if they need v11 installed instead of 10? I have the wmp11 installer...do I do all the same stuff, then just use my installer to upgrade to wmp11beta2 after?

::: milOtis

milOtis
2nd May 2007, 06:13
CADEMIAX,

your fix doesn't work :(.....at least not in Vista Ultimate, i followed your instructions 100% accurately and in order.

you sure you have Ultimate? and final version? if you have one of the online copies, 99% of them are beta versions even though they say FINAL RTM!

look....here are the errors I got when i tried to do that INF thing you talked about (since it expected version 11.x), and NONE of them worked, not just one...and the errors when the install.bat could not overwrite files in use (because they are in use even in safe mode!)...

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5041/untitledmt2.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledmt2.jpg)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8387/untitled2so3.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2so3.jpg)

:: milOtis

ratmaster9
2nd May 2007, 22:26
I added a trouble shooting section for the Xarus Fair Use Instructions for those who are experiencing the basic issues with getting FairUse4WM working...

Main Page: http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=desc

TroubleShooting: http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=troubleshoot

Just to give everyone a heads up NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, FAIRUSE4WM WILL NOT WORK WITH ZUNE MARKETPLACE. Someone said it works quite a while ago, and later I found after days of trial and error, that even with WMP 9, the IBX Version is 11.0.6000.6324. This is because as soon as the Zune software is loaded, if it doesn't have IBX version 11.0.6000.6324, it will automatically update it.

CademiaX
3rd May 2007, 02:18
CADEMIAX,

your fix doesn't work :(.....at least not in Vista Ultimate, i followed your instructions 100% accurately and in order.

you sure you have Ultimate? and final version? if you have one of the online copies, 99% of them are beta versions even though they say FINAL RTM!

look....here are the errors I got when i tried to do that INF thing you talked about (since it expected version 11.x), and NONE of them worked, not just one...and the errors when the install.bat could not overwrite files in use (because they are in use even in safe mode!)...

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5041/untitledmt2.th.jpg (http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledmt2.jpg)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/8387/untitled2so3.th.jpg (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled2so3.jpg)

:: milOtis

are you able to delete them manually?

guess I should explain what the batch does, basicly the first part takes control of the files.. then deletes them and replaces them with the wmp10 files..

and did you also change the name in the batch file?

milOtis
3rd May 2007, 02:29
Yes, I DID change the name in the install.bat file from "Bobby" to my user name, and did Find/Replace All.

I could not delete the files in question though. For exacmple, when i tried to delete the wmp DLL files, in safe mode, it says "You need permission to perform this action" and keeps popping up when I click "Try Again"

I have also tried changing the folder permissions, but it won't let you do that for system folders. Only stuff outside the "Windows" folder can have permissions changed in Vista Ultimate.

::: milOtis

milOtis
3rd May 2007, 03:11
CademiaX - ok, i got yours working, and if i could use URGE with WMP10 i would be fine, but I need 11...so I have my wmp11beta2 installation folder, and i click on "setup_wm.exe" and I get this error...

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6476/untitledpc8.th.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledpc8.jpg)

it says that 10.x is more recent than 11.x! is there any way I can force an install, or have it not check for the version currently installed? is there a registry key i need to modify?

or, can you make a package for version 11 like you did for version 10? i think your package and permission changing is a good idea, i just it with version 11.0.5703 files instead of 10.0.0.

all the files in my WMP directory are 11.0.5703.x but all the files in the system32 directory in windows are your 10.0.0.x files...that is why it won't let me continue my installation of v11...how can i change the version of those files or at least fool it into thinking they are 11.x files so I can install my wmp11beta2??

::: milOtis

CademiaX
4th May 2007, 01:27
CademiaX - ok, i got yours working, and if i could use URGE with WMP10 i would be fine, but I need 11...so I have my wmp11beta2 installation folder, and i click on "setup_wm.exe" and I get this error...

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6476/untitledpc8.th.jpg (http://img452.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledpc8.jpg)

it says that 10.x is more recent than 11.x! is there any way I can force an install, or have it not check for the version currently installed? is there a registry key i need to modify?

or, can you make a package for version 11 like you did for version 10? i think your package and permission changing is a good idea, i just it with version 11.0.5703 files instead of 10.0.0.

all the files in my WMP directory are 11.0.5703.x but all the files in the system32 directory in windows are your 10.0.0.x files...that is why it won't let me continue my installation of v11...how can i change the version of those files or at least fool it into thinking they are 11.x files so I can install my wmp11beta2??

::: milOtis

Im actaully working on this at the moment, wmp11 beta 2 is packaged different then wmp10, and it doesn support 64bit, well the installer doesnt. So its proving to be a little bit more tricky then wmp10..

glad you got that working, what was the problem?


try this, open up the install.bat file and scroll tho the bottom and remove the following lines::

xcopy sys\*.* C:\Windows\System32\
xcopy sys\*.* C:\Windows\SysWOW64\

xcopy prog\*.* "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\"

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe"

Now, it should just delete all the wmp stuff and not copy over anything..

then try to install wmp11 beta 2.. might work

mlarry01
4th May 2007, 02:19
Well, I am basically screwed then as I have WMP 11.6 and am really not inclined to attempt multiple gymnastics to get this working.

Thanks to all the nice folks who are trying to have us folk who actually paid for stuff to be able to retain it on disk. it is very appreciated. I will keep checking and hoping for some sort of Vista WMP fix in the near future.

milOtis
4th May 2007, 14:40
CademiaX:

I will await your WMP11 package. I appreciate the hard work on it.

::: milOtis

mysekurity
4th May 2007, 16:43
NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, FAIRUSE4WM WILL NOT WORK WITH ZUNE MARKETPLACE.

Sorry to tell you, but I've been running ZMP with WMP11 11.0.57 for a while now, and it's worked wonderfully. I also got my Zune shortly after it was released, installing the 1.0 software off the CD (and downloaded .57 shortly after it was released). I don't know why it isn't working for you. Have you tried using beta2?

trudgy
5th May 2007, 05:33
xarus worked great for me! thanks alot

MeteorRain
5th May 2007, 15:44
excuse me

i've tried that fu4wm package on my WinXP. all the files in program files/windows media player are of 11.0.5721.* and i deleted the drm folder and upgraded on the indivSite.

but the downloaded drm files are of 11.0.6000.* and i've tried for several times.

any idea? thanks.

Itsdon
5th May 2007, 18:13
Has anyone gotten Virtual PC 2007 to run under Windows Vista Premium?

mysekurity
6th May 2007, 23:02
but the downloaded drm files are of 11.0.6000.*

Did you download the files before or after rolling back? Did you follow the instructions to the word? What download service are you using?

milOtis
7th May 2007, 17:56
yes, i had a chance to test vpc2007 personally on vista premium, and it loaded just fine. i set up a windows xp vpc machine in no time. no glitches, no crashes.

::: milOtis

mysekurity
8th May 2007, 22:06
Anyone got a copy of FU4WM commander anymore? I reformatted my computer, and left it behind.... anyone?

AdamI
9th May 2007, 14:02
sorry guys, its probably been repeated 100 times now.. but i need a link that allows me to d/l fairuse updated version that is compatible with WMV 10 and 11.

i used this one previously http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.ph...29_DRM_FIX.zip from here posted by milOtis.

i had a newer version of windows media player installed, so i deleted it and re installed it with the one given in the link above.

I didnt follow all the steps in the instructions since im already running on windows XP home edition.

I just started following the instructions from step 3

Also wen i go to this link: http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp - to individualise my comp, the upgrade button isn't 'pressable'.

does anyone know where i went wrong?

oh, haha and also... wen i start using the program fairuse4wm and try to recover the keys it says "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet"


:helpful:

Itsdon
9th May 2007, 16:21
I've got a strange problem with VPC & FU4WM. I'm currently running Vista and installed VPC 2007 along with a fresh copy of WinXP MCE w/rollup 2. During the install I unchecked the "automatic updates" option and then proceeded to install Yahoo Music Unlimited. I then downloaded and played a song on both Yahoo player and WMP10. Next I tried FU4WM1.3FIX and immediately got the dreaded error message saying keys can't be found. It showed the IBX version as 11.0.6000.6324. How could that have been updated? Perhaps the Yahoo program had something to do with that?

FU4WM also reflected that "DRMCLIEN.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3646. So, I then proceeded to try (in futility) some of the options listed on this forum including individualizing my system, installing WMP11 (beta), yet nothing worked - I think I was messed up from the get-go with IBX 11.0.6 right? Any ideas where I might have gone wrong? I have no problem in redoing the VPC/WinXP install but I'd rather not end up with the same problem.

Oh, I haven't activated the WinXP install yet, that wouldn't make a difference would it?

ybarra
9th May 2007, 17:08
I've got a strange problem with VPC & FU4WM. I'm currently running Vista and installed VPC 2007 along with a fresh copy of WinXP MCE w/rollup 2. During the install I unchecked the "automatic updates" option and then proceeded to install Yahoo Music Unlimited. I then downloaded and played a song on both Yahoo player and WMP10. Next I tried FU4WM1.3FIX and immediately got the dreaded error message saying keys can't be found. It showed the IBX version as 11.0.6000.6324. How could that have been updated? Perhaps the Yahoo program had something to do with that?

FU4WM also reflected that "DRMCLIEN.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3646. So, I then proceeded to try (in futility) some of the options listed on this forum including individualizing my system, installing WMP11 (beta), yet nothing worked - I think I was messed up from the get-go with IBX 11.0.6 right? Any ideas where I might have gone wrong? I have no problem in redoing the VPC/WinXP install but I'd rather not end up with the same problem.

Oh, I haven't activated the WinXP install yet, that wouldn't make a difference would it?


The problem is most likely your Windows Media distributible. It is seperate from the Windows Media player. When I used my current music service, it gave me an error saying that I needed to update my Windows Media distributible to play the file and proceeded to update me to IBX 11.0.6 while leaving my Windows Media Player as Beta 2. I had to uninstall the distributible and then extracted the distributible that came with WMP beta 2 and installed only the distributible again, delete and recreate my keys, and I was back in business.

I haven't tried it yet, but I think it's theoretically possible to run the latest WMP but back out the distributible and install the beta 2 version of the distributible (i.e. extract the WMP executible and just replace the distributible .exe with an older one and install the latest WMP). As mentioned a few posts back, I also think it's possible to do the same for Vista by overwriting the newer distributible files w/ the older ones and deleting your key files and recreating them. Maybe once the Vista patch is finished, we can create an XP patch that will basically do the same w/o the hassle of the uninstall/installs. We should only be dealing w/ a handful of .dll's that handle the IBX functions.

Itsdon
9th May 2007, 17:57
I had to uninstall the distributible and then extracted the distributible that came with WMP beta 2 and installed only the distributible again, delete and recreate my keys, and I was back in business.

Thanks for the information - hopefully it's as simple as you make it sound. Any chance you could walk me through the procedure you described above? I expect there are a few folks here as well as myself who would appreciate a "spoon fed" How-To. :thanks:

mysekurity
10th May 2007, 13:50
Itsdon: check out Xarus' easy-to-read help instructions. It's a little out-of-date, and you'll probably have better luck installing 11.0.5.7 from MilOtis' recent package as opposed to WMP11 Beta 2 as recommended by Xarus, but other than that, the instructions should be the same.

I'm not sure about Y! Unlimited, but it shouldn't require you to update or anything like that....



[edit: Xarus, not Xarius.]

mysekurity
10th May 2007, 13:56
I didnt follow all the steps in the instructions since im already running on windows XP home edition.

Try Xarus' instructions. They're simple and easy to follow.

Also wen i go to this link: http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp - to individualise my comp, the upgrade button isn't 'pressable'.

You have to be using Internet Explorer or else it will be greyed-out.

oh, haha and also... wen i start using the program fairuse4wm and try to recover the keys it says "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet"
:search: You have to rollback your player, using the files from MilOtis' package. Check the instructions on Xarus.

Itsdon
10th May 2007, 20:23
Itsdon: check out Xarus' easy-to-read help instructions. It's a little out-of-date, and you'll probably have better luck installing 11.0.5.7 from MilOtis' recent package as opposed to WMP11 Beta 2 as recommended by Xarus, but other than that, the instructions should be the same.

I'm not sure about Y! Unlimited, but it shouldn't require you to update or anything like that....

Thanks. When I installed a fresh copy of WinXP and Yahoo Music Unlimited (and nothing else - no updates etc.) I immediately had IBX Version 11.0.6.6324, any idea how that may have occurred?

Does WinXP need to be activated right away? (This is a Vista Machine running VPC2007 & XP-MCE)

I initially ran WMP10 (installed from XP) and then installed WMP11 Beta (which I currently have) yet the IBX is 11.0.6. Do I still need to "roll back" the player? If so, to what?

I read above about replacing the "distributible" perhaps that's all I need to do - any idea how?

mostyle
11th May 2007, 01:09
[QUOTE=CademiaX;996665]Install Windows Media Player 10 on Vista 32/64-bit!

Has then been successful with WMP 11b2?

Also.. Given the availability of VLite and its ability to customize vista installs might there be a way to create a custom Vista DVD without wmp integrated and get a prior version to install? I tried setting up Vista in a vm box and tested the rollback techniques described here with no avail and was curious..

:thanks:

AdamI
11th May 2007, 10:42
Try Xarus' instructions. They're simple and easy to follow.

Where do i get the instructions from?

btw, your right about the internet explorer :) :thanks:

ybarra
11th May 2007, 15:21
Thanks. When I installed a fresh copy of WinXP and Yahoo Music Unlimited (and nothing else - no updates etc.) I immediately had IBX Version 11.0.6.6324, any idea how that may have occurred?

Does WinXP need to be activated right away? (This is a Vista Machine running VPC2007 & XP-MCE)

I initially ran WMP10 (installed from XP) and then installed WMP11 Beta (which I currently have) yet the IBX is 11.0.6. Do I still need to "roll back" the player? If so, to what?

I read above about replacing the "distributible" perhaps that's all I need to do - any idea how?

This is pretty simple if you think through it as well as try reading the step-by-step instructions that have been posted previously.

1) Uninstall WM Distributible. The uninstaller is USUALLY stored here: C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$\spuninst\spuninst.exe.

2) Use something like 7-Zip or WinRAR to extract the contents of the WMP Beta 2 executible to a directory.

3) Run wmfdis11.exe (from the Beta 2 directory you just extracted).

4) Delete all of the files in your DRM directory (usually C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM). Make sure you don't delete the directory...just the files in them. Also remember this will invalidate any music you have already purchased that is still DRM'd.

5) Run your usual music service and purchase and play a DRM'd file. This will recreate new IBX keys based on the Beta 2 wmfdis11.exe you just installed.

6) Run fairuse4wm and extract keys and remove DRM from music you purchased.

Obviously it would be smart to do the unDRM on some test files first from one of the DRM test sites just in case something goes wrong before you start purchasing new music.

outsiders71
13th May 2007, 00:27
Why go through all this trouble when you can make a Windows XP live CD, using BartPE?

CademiaX
13th May 2007, 11:17
So after messing with this ALOT, I have come to the conclusion that wmp11b2 will NOT work on vista 64-bit

I will how ever be testing on the 32-bit edition soon, so stay tuned!

Jeff D
13th May 2007, 22:00
Anyone have a link to the file renamer I thought was in this thread? Someone was asking about removing the [NO-DRM] and someone responded with a pretty cool one with selectable items for changing case, removing part/all of a string etc. I can't find it now, but I know I've downloaded it before and I loved it. And it's not oscar's

SalSimp
13th May 2007, 22:54
Anyone have a link to the file renamer I thought was in this thread? Someone was asking about removing the [NO-DRM] and someone responded with a pretty cool one with selectable items for changing case, removing part/all of a string etc. I can't find it now, but I know I've downloaded it before and I loved it. And it's not oscar's

This is OT, so I hope the mods don't get angry. I have been using Lupas rename for a couple years. It is freeware. Try their website at hxxp://rename.lupasfreeware.org/

It is extremely flexible, recommended.

jakeyf
14th May 2007, 02:33
CademiaX: I followed your instructions as best i can (i had a lot of administrator issues), but i managed to get everything to work up until i try to run wmplayer, when it says wmploc.dll is version 10.0.0.3802 and it expected 11.0.6000.6324.... any advice on what i did wrong? Is there any file i can manually replace to fix this? thanks

di3111
14th May 2007, 18:55
Hello CademiaX,

I've the same problem as jakeyf.
I have a german vista. I don't know if the problem depends on this. I've have done this

D. Follow the WMP10 installer instructions. (If it says wmp10 is already installed,
browse to \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\ and run wmplayer.exe, and if
that tells you file xxxx is version 10.xx, expecting version 11.xx, arrange icons by name,
select all the .inf files, right click > install, one wont work, it will tell you and the
rest will continue, after that run \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe)

several times but without result

could you help please

Blind Melon
14th May 2007, 19:27
Does the Fairuse program work for Napster protected files yet?

mysekurity
15th May 2007, 01:15
Blind Melon:
It's not the service that prevents FU from working. As long as the files you need to decode use PlaysForSure (Windows) DRM, and your ibx version (see other posts) is 11.0.5.xx or before, it should work. But please keep in mind this program is intended for the fair use of purchased music only (subscription content doesn't fall under this category).

Blind Melon
15th May 2007, 03:02
How do I find out if the files I have use PlaysForSure? Do I just try FU with it? Also, do the Napster files normally work with FU?

mysekurity
15th May 2007, 03:43
Sorry, yes. Napster, Urge, BuyMusic, and most other subscription/download services on the internet (save for iTunes, Zune, and unprotected sites such as eMusic) use PlaysForSure DRM. Since you use Napster, the files you have downloaded are protected via PlaysForSure, and should be decryptable using FU4WM.

Open FairUse4WM, click "extract keys", then click "next" when that has completed. Drag your file into the window and click next, and everything should work. If you receive an error message, search within this thread, as someone else has most likely already gotten it as well. (e.g. if you get "11.0.6 isn't supported yet", follow the instructions to "roll back" your Windows Media Player). Good luck.

Blind Melon
15th May 2007, 07:18
Alright, the weird thing is... I don't have a DRM folder in AllUsers... I did show hidden files and nothing. In the long run, I cannot hit the Upgrade button on the website... so yeah. Ionno.

mysekurity
15th May 2007, 16:31
You have to enable "show system files" too. And the Upgrade button only works in Internet Explorer. So if you're using Firefox or some other browser, you're SOL.

See http://www.xarus.net/index.php?act=fair_use_4_wm&page=instructions&ver=2 for instructions on how to rollback. Use WMP 11.0.57 from MilOtis May fix instead of Beta 2. If you need further help, PM me.

CZroe
15th May 2007, 20:37
The Xarus instructions say that Yahoo! Music does not work with FairUse4WM, but reading the last couple pages seems to indicate that it does. Unless Yahoo! Music Unlimited is different from Yahoo! Music? I thought we weren't supporting people who are using this for subscription music, so if only Yahoo! Unlimited works, then we should provide no support for it.

These are the ones the Xarus guide says do not work:
1. Vongo
2. Yahoo! Music
3. Zune Marketplace

Knowing this, which service should I commit to with the intention of using FairUse4WM? I intend to make full use of subscription music as intended, but I will also be making frequent use of the "purchase" check-box for music I like, so FairUse4WM compatability is important to me. How do the services differ here? Does one have higher-quality music? Do any sell protected lossless WMA music or at least allow me to buy a very-high bitrate version? I intend to strip any music purchased of DRM and archive it on DVD while keeping appropriate files on my PCs. One PC will sync to my MP3-format-only player while another will have only WMAs in its library (Media Center PC so that it will not sync MP3 duplicates to a compatible player) and another will have the high-quality/lossless files (my home fileserver).

I've always leaned heavily toward Napster because they were the risk-takers when it came to first supporting subscription music and it seems like they are suffering for being so progressive... as if they lost a lot of money in the initial "push" before there were many compatible players. Also, call me an idealist, but I want to prove that the name means something by lending my support (even if it has nothing to do with the original Napster)! Of course, if any other service has a significant advantage, like a significantly larger library or lossless files, I'll support competition instead by selecting them.

mysekurity
16th May 2007, 05:04
Xarius isn't right in a few things. I run Zune marketplace fine with Windows Media Player 11.0.57. I don't use Y!U, so I don't know if it works or not, but for me, Urge has been excellent. Its Auto-Mix feature is very cool, even if the recommendations aren't exactly suited for me (but the Mood and Style drag-and-drop option works quite well). If you like Napster, I'd say go for it. I think it's really just a matter of preference, but most of the mainstream stores encode to 192 kbps throughout the catalog, so you're not going to get much variation.

What I have heard about Yahoo! Unlimited is that it might force you to update, which is a bit of an issue. Urge doesn't force updates on you, which is, as you might imagine, a major selling point for me.

CZroe
16th May 2007, 21:24
Xarius isn't right in a few things. I run Zune marketplace fine with Windows Media Player 11.0.57. I don't use Y!U, so I don't know if it works or not, but for me, Urge has been excellent. Its Auto-Mix feature is very cool, even if the recommendations aren't exactly suited for me (but the Mood and Style drag-and-drop option works quite well). If you like Napster, I'd say go for it. I think it's really just a matter of preference, but most of the mainstream stores encode to 192 kbps throughout the catalog, so you're not going to get much variation.

What I have heard about Yahoo! Unlimited is that it might force you to update, which is a bit of an issue. Urge doesn't force updates on you, which is, as you might imagine, a major selling point for me.

Does the Zune Marketplace work for non-Zune users? AFAIK, it's just "URGE" for the rest of us.

mysekurity
17th May 2007, 17:51
Content purchased from the Zune Marketplace will play on PlaysForSure devices (and in Windows Media Player), but not the other way around. Also, due to some sort of ID tag trick (not exactly sure....), the DRM on the Zune cannot be decoded using FU4WM, despite the DRM being basically P4S (Zune is v 9.1 to P4S's 9). So yes, URGE, Y!U, Napster, Rhapsody, et al is probably your best bet for music purchasing service that you can get rid of DRM from. Or, you can go the fully legal and preferred, yet woefully underappreciated route and use non DRM'd tracks to begin with, in eMusic and others.

Just my $.02

rblimas
17th May 2007, 19:12
has any one found out a way to get fairuse4wm to work?

Thanks:thumbsup:

Itsdon
17th May 2007, 19:41
has any one found out a way to get fairuse4wm to work?

Thanks:thumbsup:

Nope. No one. :stupid:

vsaltv
17th May 2007, 19:59
I found the fix in windows XP where rolling back your media player doesn't roll back your IBX version correctly. It all has to do with the C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$ folder. If this folder does not contain an actual backup of an older version of the distributable, you can roll back until blue in the face but you won't get anywhere, because windows does not have the older files to roll back to, so you keep looping to the unsupported IBX. I have a zip of the C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$ folder (around 4mb). If this is something you're interested in, PM me, unzip it to your own C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallWMFDist11$ folder, THEN rollback, and relax and enjoy the anti-DRM ride in XP :)

connormill
17th May 2007, 22:11
Hi
i have uploaded fairuse4wm v1.3 to 3 Mirrors
all files checked for viruses and direct .exe's
1:FairUse4WM.exe (http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/29049_vi21f/FairUse4WM.exe) (recomended!)
2:http://www.box.net/shared/ac286lzgji or
3:http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/170986/FairUse4WM-exe.htm

hope you like them!

mysekurity
17th May 2007, 22:17
vsaltv: Interesting point. You think it's possible to trick the uninstaller into rolling back to an earlier ibx? It should be fairly easy to edit the spuninst.ini file to use a different ibx (or change the ibx itself), or do you think it hash checks? If not, then this should make the rollback process that much more painless for new users.

One thing though: I thought different ibx components don't work across computers. If you're able to send this and have it work on another computer, let me know. You could package just the required files, along with a much less complicated rollback procedure than the one we have now.

vsaltv
17th May 2007, 22:53
mysekurity: It does work across different installations of XP. I got the folder from another copy of windows myself. It's not as easy to just edit .ini files, it needs basically every file related to the media player or runtime that you are attempting to roll back to. The zip I created allows you to completely and correctly roll both the media player and the distributable all the way back to WMP9.

mysekurity
18th May 2007, 02:42
mysekurity: It does work across different installations of XP. I got the folder from another copy of windows myself. It's not as easy to just edit .ini files, it needs basically every file related to the media player or runtime that you are attempting to roll back to.

But what if you're running WMP 11.0.6 and want to roll back to 11.0.57? Is there a way to put the 11.0.57 files in the folder so that it will rollback to that? How exactly does the IBX tie into the rollback process. IIRC, rolling back from 11.0.6 to WMP10 still kept the 11.0.6 IBX.


(and yes, I know it isn't as easy as editing the INI, I was saying that we could trick it into reverting to the older IBX that was placed in the folder...or no... I'll do some more looking into it).

lilhobo
18th May 2007, 06:20
can u play these DRM file in wmp 10???

i can play smaller version from site in the IE browser and i backup the license but it wont play the file i downloaded

mysekurity
18th May 2007, 16:42
lilhobo: What is the error message you get? Sometimes it will just grant you a license to stream (not download), and that could be the problem.

cdeviney
19th May 2007, 16:10
I just let Yahoo Music Unlimited upgrade my version from 2.0.2.042 to 2.1.0.174 and now I have 11.0.6000.6324 and can't unDRM my files.

Did a system restore and that didn't help.

So...WARNING...don't upgrade your working version of Yahoo Music Unlimited upgrade!!!

hicux
20th May 2007, 22:45
Don't upgrade anything please or u will be in trouble!

WalterK
20th May 2007, 23:14
OR simply stop supporting drm crippled music.
FairUse Did its job if you were tricked into these services/online stores.
Then there was a way to get your music drm free.
But by now you should know better even with the lawsuit dropped it looks like the creator won't be coming back anytime soon and as the digital music stores/services and microsoft continue to update their software FairUse will become more and more outdated when dealing with the updates.

mysekurity
21st May 2007, 06:58
cdeviney (and hicux): If you look at the other posts in the forum (look back a few pages), you will see that it /is/ possible to revert to FU4WM-friendly components, but simply using system restore or the built-in tools Microsoft gives you will not work (obviously).

You should still be able to use the newer version of Yahoo! Unlimited, as the rollback won't touch those components, however. If not, just be glad it lasted for as long as it did.

Blind Melon
21st May 2007, 07:19
When I get this error "wma requires a different private key."... doesn't that mean I have to "recover keys" by hitting back, then hitting the "recover keys" button? However, when I do this, it doesn't work...

mysekurity
21st May 2007, 17:30
Blind Melon: What is the error message?

One thing you can try: play the file in WMP, and while it's playing, try to decrypt. That usually works for me.

mysekurity
21st May 2007, 17:35
WalterK: The ultimate goal, of course, is to get rid of the DRM completely, from end-to-end, but for now, the only way to get most mainstream music online is through a DRM-enabled store. I agree that non-DRM'd content should be purchased whenever available. It seems that Viodentia will not be coming back, (or Monkeyboy, for that matter...no one ever remembers him...), but until then, we can all gather round in a circle and sing Kumbaya.

Blind Melon
22nd May 2007, 01:35
The error message is in the quotes... it says about the private keys... I did try playing it in WMP and then decrypting, but that didn't work..

anahita
23rd May 2007, 11:26
When doing a properties on music in urge it says they are 129kbps so that's where I got my info. I was inside windows vista RC1 and using media player. i installed the urge thing just to see it. did not sign up. doing properties on music it says 129kbps. if when downloaded they are better then 128k that's cool then.

mysekurity
24th May 2007, 00:51
Blind Melon: Did you try decrypting it _while_ it was playing? What error does it give you when you try to recover keys again?

mysekurity
24th May 2007, 00:53
Anahita: When you download music from URGE, the tracks are encoded at 192 kbps WMA (protected). See earlier in the thread for how to decrypt on Vista.

Blind Melon
24th May 2007, 02:05
Blind Melon: Did you try decrypting it _while_ it was playing? What error does it give you when you try to recover keys again?


"Extraction in progress on "Indiv03.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,1 Candidates: 4,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys."

mysekurity
24th May 2007, 04:57
Your "ibx" is too new to work with FairUse4WM. Please look a couple pages back to figure out what to do, or PM me, and I'll walk you through it.

Blind Melon
24th May 2007, 06:57
Sent ya a message.

CZroe
25th May 2007, 13:36
Question: I want to do all of my FU4WM stuff on a Virtual Machine so that I don't have to worry about messing with my Windows Media Player files (it also allows easy backup of your entire subscription account/fles/keys, etc for multiple PCs). I'd like the VM drive image to be as small as possible, so I have a question:
Is FU4WM Windows XP-only? Can I install WMP10 beta on Windows 2000 or something with a smaller footprint and still use FU4WM?

mysekurity
26th May 2007, 00:18
I think it's interesting how much credit people give Viodentia. Not that he isn't the man for creating this, but he even says in his first post that FU4WM is just a GUI for DrmDbg. Sure the updates to the program foiled Microsoft's patches, but it's really the codebase from DrmDbg that made it all possible. Monkeyboy is responsible for the latest fix, enabling us to use 11.0.57 and before.

I wonder what "lark" is up to these days


P.S. I'm curious as to why the files in my %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\DRM folder are version 11.0.6 when my ibx is 11.0.57. What's the disconnect here?

WalterK
26th May 2007, 15:19
CZroe it might work in windows 2000 but i am not sure.
It was listed as being Xp only.

Secondly you can install a small version of XP on a virtual machine say an image about 350mb or less.
How?
Simply use nlite (google search) and have your original windows installation CD, you can then pick and choose what will be taken from the orginal cd and windows updates to be put on the image.
After creating simply mount the image with daemon tools or burn to a cd and install on your virtual machine.

Note Nlite does not work with Win9X.

Blind Melon
27th May 2007, 02:34
I'm not sure if this has been brought up yet, but after I installed Zune, my undrm'ing process wouldn't work (and this was caused because of Zune)... so I just uninstalled Zune, uninstalled WMP and everything else, then reinstalled WMP, no Zune this time, and it works... only thing is, I'd love to have Zune accessible so I can play music from my HDD on my X360... but if I have to use my iPod... that really doesn't bother me, just was wondering if there's a way around this.

mysekurity
27th May 2007, 20:52
Blind Melon: Many people have had problems with Zune and FU, but I am not one of them. Just so you know, Zune is basically WMP11 with a few tweaks. You can use the 360's streaming option from within WMP11.

schil
30th May 2007, 05:42
I was using FairUse to remove DRM from many albums in my library when it stopped working after I updated my system. Now I would like to determine which files in my library are still protected with DRM. Does anyone know how to search for WMA files that are still under DRM?

mysekurity
30th May 2007, 05:47
schil: WMP can tell you which files are still protected. Go to the songs menu item in your library and enter "Protected:yes" (minus the quotes) in the search box. This will list all of your protected files.

Another way is to use FairUseCommander, a program that works with FairUse4WM to batch convert protected tracks. If the checkbox is selected, it will find for you and que up your protected files to be converted. It's quite handy.

If you want to know how to revert your system to be able to unDRM again (it's really simple), or just want a copy of FairUseCommander, drop me a private message.

Ren
1st June 2007, 03:45
Hi all, I got a little lost in such long thread. But if I got it right, I can't unDRM wmv file, which requires for playing KB891122 installed, am I right?

di3111
2nd June 2007, 10:28
I`ve tried to install Wmp10 on a german Vista 32Bit with the instructions of CademiaX. Now WMP 10 runs on my vista (Ultimate). The problem with the error message #File wmploc.dll is version 10.xxx and not 11.xxx, which was expected....# disappeared after i double-clicked on unregmp2.exe under the Programme/Windows Media Player folder.
Now Wmp runs fine.
The problem now is, that i can`t do the upgrade on the windows media individualisation site . The Upgrade Button
is greyed out. So I can't play files with licenses.
Has anyone installed WMP10 on Vista successful.
Please Help

JackAren
2nd June 2007, 15:30
Hi
i have uploaded fairuse4wm v1.3 to 3 Mirrors
all files checked for viruses and direct .exe's
1:FairUse4WM.exe (http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/29049_vi21f/FairUse4WM.exe) (recomended!)
2:http://www.box.net/shared/ac286lzgji or
3:http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/170986/FairUse4WM-exe.htm

hope you like them!
I'ownloded that file, then trying to run it, it says: "not a valid Windows executable"!

froggger
3rd June 2007, 01:57
di3111, you need to use internet explorer.

di3111
3rd June 2007, 05:12
But I use the IE

froggger
3rd June 2007, 17:37
oh, i dunno then. i haven't used vista.
are there any online subscription stores that are totally online, you don't have to install anything and have a free trial where you don't have to enter credit card info??
i looked at napster, but you need to enter credit card info.
i also checked out urge, but it makes you update wmp.

Blind Melon
3rd June 2007, 20:38
Try going back through and deleting your DRM files in the DRM folder... I had to do that sometimes to get the Upgrade button to work.

abudara
4th June 2007, 22:43
drmdbg 2007/06/04 00:15 for "IndivBox.key v11.0.6000.6324"
by taku & inoyan
http://panda.orz.hm/uploader/5/src/up48.zip

milOtis
6th June 2007, 15:26
Does the Fairuse program work for Napster protected files yet?

FairUse4WM works for any WMA file as long as your IBX/Windows Media player version is old enough...doesn't matter what service you use as long as it doen't make you update.

and Cademix - YES...I have spent countless hours trying to do wmp11b2 on vista...no dice, so wanted you to know I worked on it hard also, and came up with nothing. I finally actually got it instgalled, but right when I opened it, it would crash, so technically it was on there, but I was never able to keep it running more than 10 seconds.

::: milOtis

milOtis
6th June 2007, 15:30
oh, i dunno then. i haven't used vista.
are there any online subscription stores that are totally online, you don't have to install anything and have a free trial where you don't have to enter credit card info??
i looked at napster, but you need to enter credit card info.
i also checked out urge, but it makes you update wmp.


not true. if you have windows XP you can use windows media player 11beta2 with URGE all you want without updating. I have three PCs right now with that setup. Everytime I open windows media player it says "do you want to update" i just hit no, and I'm still downloading DRM music from urge to this day.

also, i have windows vista instlaled with virtualpc, and have windows xp running in that, and urge is using 11.0.5703.x version of media player also. (beta 2)

It doesn't force you to update, it just asks all the time, you can just click 'no'.

::: milOtis

Ren
6th June 2007, 16:06
FairUse4WM works for any WMA file as long as your IBX/Windows Media player version is old enough...doesn't matter what service you use as long as it doen't make you update.

Hi milOtis. Update You're talking about is KB891122 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891122)? I have some WM files and when I'll try to play them in WMP10 I got message box "You need security upgrade for playing this file..." or similar message and the link leads to KB891122. So there's no chance to use FairUse4WM for these files? Thanks.

mysekurity
6th June 2007, 20:26
Ren: I use URGE, and the security update it prompts you for doesn't upgrade your ibx. I'm not sure what service you use, but if it's not allowing you to play protected files, the worst you can do is try (remember to restart afterwards, though!). If it doesn't work, you can always use the rollback procedure gone over many times before (I just did it last night with 11.0.57, so I know it still works)

froggger
6th June 2007, 21:12
well the package i use to install updated my wmp without asking me...
is there a package that is only urge, not an updated wmp with it??
i am using wmp11 beta2

mysekurity
6th June 2007, 22:41
froggger: pm me your e-mail address. I can send you the 11.0.57 install, instructions, and etc.

milOtis
6th June 2007, 23:07
anyone having trouble should read the second answer!
well the package i use to install updated my wmp without asking me...
is there a package that is only urge, not an updated wmp with it??
i am using wmp11 beta2

that means you have wmp10 on there before, so it upgraded it to the most current version of 11. if you have ANY version of 11 install, you can just go to urge.com and download urge, it will see you have version 11.x and not update it...it just need to be 11 for urge to install, so 11beta2 qualifies, you just have to have it installed prior to installing urge. if the urge installer sees version 10 it will update it to the most current version of wmp on the MS servers at the time of install (if it sees 11.x, it skips the upgrade).

Hi milOtis. Update You're talking about is KB891122 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/891122)? I have some WM files and when I'll try to play them in WMP10 I got message box "You need security upgrade for playing this file..." or similar message and the link leads to KB891122. So there's no chance to use FairUse4WM for these files? Thanks.

i am talking about when you open windows media player, and it pops up after 10 or 20 seconds, in a dialog box that says "A Windows Media Player update is available. Do you want to update now? YES NO" then you must always click NO so WMP will never update (thus your IBX will never update) - keep in mind it is a domino effect...you cannot upgrade you WMP without updating your IBX...don't do it!! Using FairUse4WM only works with WMP11beta2, and prior and ONLY on XP...you cannot install anything lower than WMP11Final on Vista, don't even try. CademiaX and I have spent days and days trying to get that working for you guys, and it's not just one problem....MANY issues come up like conflicting DLL versions, bluescreens, WMP totally crashing after 5 seconds, etc...so you are out of luck with Vista unless you run VirtualPC or have a service that lets you get away with WMP10 and doesn't require 11 (but most require version11 now).

Remember the motto: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" and if you have a working FairUse4WM and music service that doesn't require you to upgrade, then keep it taht way! If you are on windows xp, my "12-27 fix" will work just fine for you on rolling back to wmp11beta2... (used it on my friend's computer last week that was 100% updated to the latest wmp11) This has been tested on xp home, professional, 64bit, and on dells, gateways, acers, shuttles, even intel imacs, and it works on all of them...the people who are having trouble with my FairUse4WM fix is anyone on vista, or who use more than one WMA-file music service, like Urge and Napster to download songs, or Yahoo and Rhapsody and something else...due to conflicting DRM data, the rollback does not work for those people, and their upgrade button is grayed out on the individualization site. So pick a service you like and only use just that ONE.

::: milOtis

froggger
7th June 2007, 00:59
oh sorry, i must have been on wmp10 last time i tried that.
everything works fine now.
thanks!

Ren
7th June 2007, 03:46
milOtis,mysekurity> Thanks for hints, just installing XP to VPC. I tried it on W2003R2, I guess it was the problem. I'll report results ASAP.

mysekurity
7th June 2007, 03:55
I just rolled back my install last night. I use Zune, so I had to get rid of that as well, but I know the rollback still works. (if possible, don't use Beta 2, it's much slower than the final version, and there's really no need). If you can't find WMP 11.0.57, pm me.


MilOtis: do you know how to disable the "upgrade now" dialog? I've tried setting wmp to never check for updates, but that doesn't work. I've also tried hacking with the dlls, but nothing really came of that. Do you have any ideas? Or is it just a minor annoyance that I'll have to put up with every now and then?

di3111
7th June 2007, 03:55
Has someone noticed the drmdbg update above for IBX
v11.0.6000.6324. Someone tried it?

pcdthebum
7th June 2007, 04:30
Has someone noticed the drmdbg update above for IBX
v11.0.6000.6324. Someone tried it?

Yea, i noticed that, I was wondering if this means we will be seeing an update for fairuse :) that would be awesome

petrus2
7th June 2007, 05:44
MilOtis: do you know how to disable the "upgrade now" dialog? I've tried setting wmp to never check for updates, but that doesn't work. I've also tried hacking with the dlls, but nothing really came of that. Do you have any ideas? Or is it just a minor annoyance that I'll have to put up with every now and then?

Have you tried the solution contained in the following post?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=979744&highlight=DisableWMPAutoUpdate.reg#post979744

Regards

pcdthebum
7th June 2007, 05:50
does anyone know how to update the program so that we can incorporate the new drmdbg? or is it just a waiting game?

SalSimp
7th June 2007, 12:30
MilOtis: do you know how to disable the "upgrade now" dialog? I've tried setting wmp to never check for updates, but that doesn't work. I've also tried hacking with the dlls, but nothing really came of that. Do you have any ideas? Or is it just a minor annoyance that I'll have to put up with every now and then?

Look at the quote below from my prior post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneill5491
I don't know if there was a post about this earlier, but is there a way to stop WMP from asking you if you would like to install the available update (from beta 2 to final)?

Yes there is. . . .

1. Reboot Windows in SAFE Mode
2. Go to Program Files>Windows Media Player
3. Find setup_wm.exe
4. Rename it to anything else (e.g. setup_wm0.exe)
5. Reboot Windows

Works also by deleting setup_wm.exe, but renaming is better just in case you want o put it back. There may be other ways of avoiding the nag, but this one works for me.

Note: You have to be in SAFE Mode or else the Windows File Protection feature will put a new setup_wm.exe in the directory.



:):eek::devil:

mysekurity
7th June 2007, 16:24
Petrus2: thanks!

And di3111: I downloaded it, but it didn't seem to do much. I'm running 11.0.57, but I'll try it on a machine with 11.0.6 to see if that might be the issue. Before fairuse came out, I used drmdbg with mixed results. Hopefully someone can port it into fairuse, but I won't hold my breath.

hicux
7th June 2007, 17:37
hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me in some codes. See u soon!

hicux
7th June 2007, 17:38
:script:hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me with some codes. See u soon!

CER22
7th June 2007, 17:53
:script:hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me with some codes. See u soon!

Awesome! Thanks!

froggger
7th June 2007, 20:51
sounds great!!
does anybody still have a copy of fairuse4wm commander??
i can't find a link anywhere!

mysekurity
8th June 2007, 03:33
froggger: I do. Check your pm box.

Ren
8th June 2007, 15:14
milOtis,mysekurity> Thanks for hints, just installing XP to VPC. I tried it on W2003R2, I guess it was the problem. I'll report results ASAP.

WinXPSP2 + WMP 11.0.5721.5145 It don't ask for KB891122 anymore but when I'll individualize from link in this topic, components gets upgraded to 6000=unsupported. But it shouldn't be problem if I don't do individualization, right?

Episodio1
9th June 2007, 01:54
Is this topic only about drm in audio files?? All that I read is that you still need a valid license to decrypt the video file.

Thanks.

mysekurity
9th June 2007, 02:08
Episodio1 (and I assume Ren as well): Earlier in the thread, there was talk of DRM removal in WMV files, but I haven't tested it myself. You should just need a valid (playable) license to unDRM it. Either that, or you can use the tools FU4WM is based on (like drmdbg, drm2wmv, etc.), which I know were designed to remove WMV DRM.

mackie
9th June 2007, 03:15
Where can I get a version of WMP 10.0? I have 9 installed, but would rather have 10. Or the beta of 11.

Thanks.

Nevermind, I found it here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx

mackie
9th June 2007, 03:33
I have another question.

On another computer, I am able to right-click on a song and select convert. Then a Microsoft program would open, and I would be able to convert the wma file to an mp3.

I can't do it on a different computer. Why?

What do I need to do this?

mysekurity
9th June 2007, 06:57
Mackie (in response to your second post): Your first computer most likely had software that your second computer did not. You say it was a Microsoft program, and without further clarification, I'm going to assume you are talking about either Plus! Audio Converter, which came with the Plus! Digital Media pack for Windows XP or Windows Media Encoder.

To replicate this functionality on other computers, you can install either of the aforementioned Microsoft products (which I wouldn't recommend, having used both for audio conversion), or a number of inexpensive and/or free alternatives available (installing a LAME plugin to dbPowerAMP, for example). Basically what allows you to right-click a file and select it to convert is the result of allowing a process to add itself to the "shell", the user interface between you and the operating system. Any conversion software should have an option to allow itself to be added to the shell, and if not, there are several registry tweaks to facilitate this.

Please let me know if any of this was confusing or if you have any further questions.

mackie
9th June 2007, 16:15
Mackie (in response to your second post): Your first computer most likely had software that your second computer did not. You say it was a Microsoft program, and without further clarification, I'm going to assume you are talking about either Plus! Audio Converter, which came with the Plus! Digital Media pack for Windows XP or Windows Media Encoder.

To replicate this functionality on other computers, you can install either of the aforementioned Microsoft products (which I wouldn't recommend, having used both for audio conversion), or a number of inexpensive and/or free alternatives available (installing a LAME plugin to dbPowerAMP, for example). Basically what allows you to right-click a file and select it to convert is the result of allowing a process to add itself to the "shell", the user interface between you and the operating system. Any conversion software should have an option to allow itself to be added to the shell, and if not, there are several registry tweaks to facilitate this.

Please let me know if any of this was confusing or if you have any further questions.

Not confusing at all.

I forgot my original computer had the Media Center version of XP. I have other converters, it was just more convenient to highlight all my songs then right-click and select convert audio format.

Thanks anyway for your reply.

pcdthebum
9th June 2007, 17:42
Cant wait for the update :)

yes i edited what i said because it needed to be changed :P

mysekurity
9th June 2007, 19:38
As far as I'm concerned, hicux can take as long as he needs to make sure it works properly. I'd rather have a well-tested release that works on Vista (one of the only reasons I have for not updating yet) than one that doesn't work at all.

Though I do have a few feature requests:
1) Scrubbing of the unique content identifier. I don't like the thought of being tracked by my software.
2) Implementing FairUse Commander right into the shell (making it even easier to use than before)
3) Removal of Zune DRM (not likely, but just thought I'd throw it in)

...
4) An explanation of what they did to break the tool. I read over the way WMA DRM works, and I'd like to contribute to the project, but I'm wondering what exactly happened to make it stop working...

EDIT: Thanks for reconsidering :)

KenD00
9th June 2007, 19:54
@pcdthebum: If you think its so easy, no one stops you from doing it by yourself

:rolleyes:

SalSimp
10th June 2007, 14:21
Though I do have a few feature requests:
...
...
...

Of most concern should be number one on the wish list. A lot of users may not be aware of the 'unseen' information that is in the WMA tag. This information even transfers to ID3 tags with most converters and is not evident (seen by programs like Tag&Rename, dBPoweramp, MP3Tag, etc). It will track you as the downloader. All you can do now is strip the tag completely and recreate it with clean information.

So, if you have been sharing. . . .

Danj
10th June 2007, 15:27
1) Scrubbing of the unique content identifier. I don't like the thought of being tracked by my software.

This should not be a part of FairUse4WM itself, since it would firmly place it in the position of being a tool of piracy, instead of the legal grey area it currently inhabits. If information is needed to be stripped out of converted files it should be done by a third party tool, so that no blame attaches to FU4WM.

SalSimp
10th June 2007, 16:06
This should not be a part of FairUse4WM itself, since it would firmly place it in the position of being a tool of piracy, instead of the legal grey area it currently inhabits. . .

Agreed! I just wanted to give those mis-using FairUse4WM, either on 'rented' or purchased tracks (by sharing them), fair warning.

I bet more than a few are right now saying "holy sh!$".

mysekurity
10th June 2007, 23:00
Danj: Perhaps you are right. I don't want to draw any more heat to FU4WM than it has already earned. I wouldn't share the files in the first place (and it's easy enough to do it manually or with a tagging tool), but I just really don't like the idea of a unique content tag.

Am I to assume you're against my 3rd request as well?

sonicbox
12th June 2007, 00:20
Off topic, but what "unique content tag" are you talking about? SubscriptionContentID?

I almost hate to correct it (because it seems most everyone here is using this to violate subscription agreements - ARGH)... but I can guarantee you that isn't a numeric used to track an individual buyer. Sorry, paranoid copyright violators... go be paranoid about something else.

derfnoslen
12th June 2007, 22:34
Hey, I have a Zune, and use zune marketplace, which updates my IBX, but it's the only way to put songs on the zune. So is there a way to do a virtual machine and set that up with zune and use my main machine to run wmp 11 beta2 with fairuse? I don't have an xp disk, just the setup cd's that came with my computer, I'm on XP home. What program would I use, I tried the VM player that so miltois suggested, but I may be downloaded the wrong version because it asks for Vista. Any suggestions. I've been reading this thread since it was on page 28, but I can't figure this out

mysekurity
13th June 2007, 02:42
derfnoslen: I have a Zune too. I run WMP 11 and FairUse just fine.

AFAIK, Zune doesn't itself update the IBX (it hasn't on any of the machines on which I've installed WMP first, and then Zune), but it does rely on the WMP Runtime, upon which both Zune and WMP are based.

What you can do is follow the rollback instructions (look earlier in the thread or pm me for a condensed version) and you should be fine. As I type this, I'm running both WMP and Zune, simultaneously downloading, unDRM'ing, and syncing to my baby, all on XP home. If you need help, just let me know, or if you're interested in pursuing the VM method, it should work for you (if not, there are plenty of alternatives available).


P.S. Sonicbox: Yes, I think that's what I'm talking about. I'm doing my best to stay true to the spirit (if not the word) of my agreement, and have and will purchase tracks to keep this wonderful service running. I have not passed around my unDRM'd music, I'm just concerned about the ramifications of someone else taking my music (http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=493).

derfnoslen
13th June 2007, 12:23
[QUOTE=mysekurity;1013517]derfnoslen: I have a Zune too. I run WMP 11 and FairUse just fine.

AFAIK, Zune doesn't itself update the IBX (it hasn't on any of the machines on which I've installed WMP first, and then Zune), but it does rely on the WMP Runtime, upon which both Zune and WMP are based.

What you can do is follow the rollback instructions (look earlier in the thread or pm me for a condensed version) and you should be fine. As I type this, I'm running both WMP and Zune, simultaneously downloading, unDRM'ing, and syncing to my baby, all on XP home. If you need help, just let me know, or if you're interested in pursuing the VM method, it should work for you (if not, there are plenty of alternatives available).[QUOTE=mysekurity;1013517]


Ok, I'm going through the rollback instructions, at what point do I install the Zune software, before I put back on WMP or after. I'm not sure what happened then because I installed Zune and now I can't unDRM anything, do you unDRM using files downloaded from WMP or Zune software? I'm using the instructions from Xarus's site. I'm not sure where I should install the Zune software, thanks for the help!

Edit: It looks like I can unDRM using WMP Urge put not Zune Marketplace, is that normal, I like Urge better anyway just wondering?

milOtis
13th June 2007, 16:20
:script:hey people. Im working on solving the problem for windows vista and Windows Xp. I will upload FairUSeWM 1.4 for Windows Xp and Vista as soon as possible. Thanks to Viodentia that he helped me with some codes. See u soon!

u serious, there's a version 1.4 for 11.0.6x.x IBX?

mysekurity
13th June 2007, 18:36
Derfnolsen: After you have installed WMP and confirmed that your unDRMing works, that's when it's safe to install Zune. I use URGE with great enthusiasm (I like it better than marketplace as well), but FU4WM can't yet unDRM Zune files (which are protected with "DRM 9.1" as MS calls it--supposedly just DRM 9 with a new trick).

Also, Xarus' site is slightly outdated. Instead of using Beta 2 like it tells you, you're much better off using the final version, 11.0.57 as it's stabler and faster. You can get it from MilOtis' April 29 fix or pm me and I'll send you the download link.

Also, if you disable the marketplace (http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/completed/4828-drastically-increase-zune-program-performance.html#post37096) in Zune, the program will run MUCH faster. (At the expense of some minor sync issues... Leesmann and I have been trying to work on it, but the solution seems to be just to switch it back on (http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/completed/5444-zune-marketplace-alternator.html) when you're syncing).

Enjoy, and Welcome To The Social!

MilOtis: Not yet. Hicux just announced it. Although drmdbg (the engine on which FU4WM is based) got an upgrade to support 11.0.6 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1010726#post1010726).

Sincere303
14th June 2007, 05:13
What is fairuse4wm commander?

Ever since I installed the Zune software, my FairUse is not working. I tried a few steps to fix it, like uninstall Zune and roll back WMP, but nothing seams to work. Any help would be apprieaciated, thanks.

mysekurity
14th June 2007, 05:53
Sincere303: FU4WM Commander is an external program that pretty much automates everything FU4WM can do. If you specify the location of your FU4WM executable and the folder your music downloads to, it will automatically search for all DRM'd tracks, and only return those inflicted with DRM. It then batch processes this list in FU4WM, deletes the original (or saves it if you so choose), and removes the annoying "[No-DRM]" tag FU4WM places at the front of the unDRM'd file. Basically, it's automation now more automatic.

As for Zune: assuming you're running XP, just uninstall the Zune software and the WMF runtime from Add/Remove programs (you might have to click the "show program updates" checkbox in the upper-right corner of A/R). Next, roll back your WMP installation (also from A/R), restart your computer, and open up an explorer window. Go to Tools | Folder Options and click the View tab. Scroll to the "Show Hidden Files and Folders" radio dialog (it should be the first of its kind) and select to show the files. Scroll down just a bit to find "Hide protected operating system files (recommended)" and uncheck it, and confirm that this is what you want to do when the dialog pops up. Click apply and close the box. Now navigate to %AllUsersProfile%/DRM (the default location; if you can't find it, your location is stored in the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\DRM) and delete everything in the folder, but don't delete the folder itself.

You can now install WMP11. If you have a copy of the installer for 11.0.57 or earlier, you're fine (don't use 11.0.6 or later!). If you don't, just pm me for the download link. When it's finished installing, you might want to restart, or you might not, depending. Open up IE (it won't work in any other browser) and head to http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

Click the upgrade button. If it's grayed out, it's because you're not using IE. Do it.

Do a test run to make sure you can still unDRM using your favorite P4S downloading service. If successful, you can install Zune, which shouldn't modify any of your DRM settings.

The most important thing is that you don't allow Windows Media Player to update. Security component updates (despite how scary they look) are actually fine to install, as should be any update to your music store. Also, don't install Update 929399 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929399), as it will update your ibx as well.


Any questions?

milOtis
14th June 2007, 17:00
link not working for drm update...
http://panda.orz.hm/uploader/5/src/up48.zip

anyone have a working one?

::: milOtis

-edit- it's back up, nevermind

milOtis
14th June 2007, 22:48
i dont get this drmdbg thing...when i use it by itself, or with automate undrm 2.0 (replacing the old drmdbg) it just opens windows media player...waits like 20 seconds, then gives some error about setup_wm.exe not working

i've tried using it as a command line tool also, but when i type "drmdbg /?" at the prompt, to see all it can do, it doesn't give me any text, just opens WMP and then gives me the setup_wm.exe error

how do i use this until fairuse4wm 1.4 is released?

::: milOtis

GuyPaddock
16th June 2007, 07:47
To use the drmdbg.exe until FairUse 1.4, you simply run the program and when WMP opens, add a DRM-protected file to the playlist and tell WMP to start playing. A dialog will pop-up with the KID for the SID, and the KID will also be saved to the key file needed to run DRM2WMV. It works for me with Vista and WMP 10, with an 11.0.6000.6324 blackbox.

Danj
16th June 2007, 08:45
Am I to assume you're against my 3rd request as well?

Zune DRM? Well, it's not so much that I'm against it as that I'm surprised anyone actually cares about the Zune. It's done so badly that they didn't even bother releasing it over here in Europe (they're allegedly planning a 2008 launch but my guess is it will just fizzle out and they just won't bother). There are many better players on the market these days.

paranoid87
16th June 2007, 17:07
Zune and FairUse work okey together?

derfnoslen
16th June 2007, 17:35
I just asked mysekurity about that queston, he said "FU4WM can't yet unDRM Zune files (which are protected with "DRM 9.1" as MS calls it--supposedly just DRM 9 with a new trick)".

I tried it, it doesn't work but it does work using the WMP11 (URGE) method that you can find futher up on thispage.

mysekurity
18th June 2007, 01:38
Danj: Sorry, I meant my 2nd request (integrating FairUseCommander into the shell)

GuyPaddock: It doesn't work for me under XP SP2 running 11.0.57 (a.k.a. runs FU4WM). It will launch WMP (or maximize it if it's already open) and doesn't really do anything. Anything I'm missing? Do I need to be using 11.0.6?

And what's the progress integrating it, hicux?

gtb5
18th June 2007, 05:50
Hi all I'm new here and would like to know is it true that I have to play the downloaded song at least once to obtain the DRM code? The WMA titles that I have downloaded required to be played on WMP 11, then there's no way I could ever use Fairuse 1.3 to strip DRM since I must upgrade to WMP11 to have the song played and I now get the "XXX.wma requires a different private key" and "IBX Version 11.0.6000.6324 isn't supported yet." errors.

nomorecoasters
18th June 2007, 12:06
Can this be used to over the DRM for Skys Anytime package?

Sky Anytime on PC securely delivers content via the internet. Once the file has been downloaded, Microsoft Digital Rights Management software will prevent unauthorised viewing and will automatically delete the file from your PC once your licence to view it expires.


If so what version should i be using?

abudara
18th June 2007, 13:53
http://sky.advenbbs.net/bbs/DRMdbg2005.htm

nomorecoasters
18th June 2007, 14:49
Er whats that link for?

Is that for me or was it left in some part of your post thats been edited?

bruuno117
18th June 2007, 15:31
Im currently trying to get rid of drm from some files, and I have get hold of Fairuse4wm, and when its first run it want to recover keys (whatever that means).

It says "no keys loaded, and when I click "recover keys" it gives me this message "IBX component does not appear to be present".

when I pres "OK" another windows appear, called "extract DRMv1 keys" with some mublejumble telling me i have "Drmclien.dll version 9.0.0.3250" !?

So can someone please tell me what I have to do, to make this thing work ?

Im using WindowsXP, with wmp11 installed.

abudara
18th June 2007, 15:58
The link is a forum concerning drmdbg.
Latest drmdbg can be found.

nomorecoasters
18th June 2007, 16:14
The link is a forum concerning drmdbg.
Latest drmdbg can be found.

Is there an English version im not sure exactly what im looking at lol

JamesyBHOY
18th June 2007, 19:34
Does anyone know how to get around this error message: "UNABLE TO DECRYPT: Packet truncated, 25467 needed, 2683 remains, at offset 13317."
I downloaded it last month, never had time to watch it. License expired, so logged in & got another license for it. The file now plays fine on WMP but when I use FU4WM on it, the error message above appears!

Thanks..

Wilbert
18th June 2007, 21:01
@abudara,
The link is a forum concerning drmdbg.
Latest drmdbg can be found.
When i try to unzip the package (ng5012.zip) it says password not valid?

Is it possible to make it also open source?

abudara
18th June 2007, 23:32
The password is correct.
B6244PMg6K14Q4jrv9cx3R14FZ6696

abudara
18th June 2007, 23:39
Is there an English version im not sure exactly what im looking at lol

I'm sorry. It knows only it.

Wilbert
19th June 2007, 16:05
Ok, you can get drmdbg_19062007 here:

http://www.savefile.com/files/822788

Translation by http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/ gives


This drmdbg received and united a lot of valuable advice from Mr. taku. Therefore, it opens it to the public as drmdbg of the taku & inoyan version.

It opens it to the public for the time being though the possibility
to be planned easily is large because the confirmation is taken only with IndivBox.key v11.0.6000.6324.


System requirements

1.Win2000,XP?VISTA uncorresponds.
2.Wmp v8 or more(This : because it is the ..can confirmation here.. oldest. )
3.Less than IndivBox.key v10.00.00.3802 or v11.0.6000.6324
4.Only wmp v10.00.00.3650 corresponds when the target is DRM1.


How to use.

1.Drmdbg start
2.Selection -> reproduction of DRM assistant's animation because of start of wmp. Or, it reproduces from "URL is opened".
3.When the console window (DOS screen) is made the foremost side, and KID becomes appropriate. Some keys are pushed. If it is necessary to select this because KID exists also in CM etc.
4.The message box is displayed, and KID and SID are forwarded to the clipboard. In addition, drm1\drm1-i.key or drm2\drm2-i.key is made on desktop.

- Drmdbg.ini is not used in this taku & inoyan version.

Please inform me if trouble etc. are found.

Update history

(...)

Awax
19th June 2007, 19:02
FairUse4WM does not work with the final version of wmp 11, only previous versions. You have to role back wmp 11 to wmp 10.

di3111
19th June 2007, 20:48
Hello,

i use vista and wmp11.(both german versions)
When i start the new drmdbg wmp opens and closes immediately without any error message! So I can't
play the drm files to get kid and sid.
Has anyone a idea?

clemchen
20th June 2007, 08:55
Hello !

I have a similar problem with Vista, but not with XP. May it be doesn't work yet with Vista
@Wilbert
1.Win2000,XP?VISTA uncorresponds.
May be it means that Vista is unsupported for the moment.

Anyway if someone made it works with Vista...

bruuno117
20th June 2007, 12:15
Is it all drm protected files that can be removed with this thing? caus I got some wmv that I have a valid license to, and I just can make it work :/

I just did a clean install of xp and tried fairuse4wm 1.3 again, and it gives me thisa message "windows error 80030002 while finding KID in V9 store", does anyone know what that means

in using wmp9 and got IndivBox.key version 10.00.00.3646 installed

iSTOLEyourPOPE
21st June 2007, 07:53
Does anybody know (or fancy to try and guess) when FairUse4WM will work on the most up to date WM11? I desperately want to get FairUse to work, but I don't want to risk messing up my new computer in an attempt to roll it back.

pcdthebum
21st June 2007, 17:05
Does anybody know (or fancy to try and guess) when FairUse4WM will work on the most up to date WM11? I desperately want to get FairUse to work, but I don't want to risk messing up my new computer in an attempt to roll it back.

I would say sometime between now and '08...we just have to wait man

Jeff D
23rd June 2007, 06:50
Edit: Never fails, break down and ask for advice and thing magically work on my next try... odd, but happens all the time. =(

zichlone
23rd June 2007, 15:11
can anyone post a link for wmp 11 beta 2 i got a new comp and need to re un drm my cd's

kpfuser
24th June 2007, 15:51
Hi all!

I am new here. I need to get FairUse4WM to use with video (international basketball games) that I have downloaded for a fee and need to make playable on other pcs with other than Windows OSs. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance!

CER22
25th June 2007, 17:39
Hi all!

I am new here. I need to get FairUse4WM to use with video (international basketball games) that I have downloaded for a fee and need to make playable on other pcs with other than Windows OSs. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance!

If you browse through this topic you can find all that you need. I know that 62 pages can be overwhelming but if you go back a few pages you'll find a download and info on rolling back wmp if you need to.

derfnoslen
26th June 2007, 01:07
I've been reading this thread since page 28, but I can't figure this one out, somehow my ibx was updated, im thinking through one of microsoft's hotfix's, I tried rolling back using the method, but it would not let me uninstall the wmp runtime 11, after getting stuck for awhile, I upgraded to wmp11, then when I tried to uninstall using the method, it uninstalls wmp11 but in add/remove programs, it is still listed, runtime 11 is also still listed, when I do attempt to open wmp it says that the program will need to be reinstalled again, I'm not sure what to do at this point, everytime I install wmp11, and try the rollback that way I can't get wmp11 runtime off, any suggestions.

also under program files WMP setup file 3 times, 3 different files (forgot the real name of the file, name of the wmp setup file) but it has setupfilename(1),(2),(3), not sure what I did, I did change the name of the file using someone's "no update method" (you go into safe mode and change the setup name, I put a 0 at the end and it stops asking you to update, it works too!) Any suggestions? I tried a system restore no go

CER22
26th June 2007, 03:55
ugh! I wish I remembered how I rolled back mine. There's an alternate way to do it I think by typing in something in run to delete. It's def somewhere in this thread b/c it's brought up at least once a week. Try a search using different key words until you find it. There's directions on how to do it with a download on here. Also, you can try google.

mousemurder
26th June 2007, 15:55
I've been reading this thread since page 28, but I can't figure this one out, somehow my ibx was updated, im thinking through one of microsoft's hotfix's, I tried rolling back using the method, but it would not let me uninstall the wmp runtime 11, after getting stuck for awhile, I upgraded to wmp11, then when I tried to uninstall using the method, it uninstalls wmp11 but in add/remove programs, it is still listed, runtime 11 is also still listed, when I do attempt to open wmp it says that the program will need to be reinstalled again, I'm not sure what to do at this point, everytime I install wmp11, and try the rollback that way I can't get wmp11 runtime off, any suggestions.

also under program files WMP setup file 3 times, 3 different files (forgot the real name of the file, name of the wmp setup file) but it has setupfilename(1),(2),(3), not sure what I did, I did change the name of the file using someone's "no update method" (you go into safe mode and change the setup name, I put a 0 at the end and it stops asking you to update, it works too!) Any suggestions? I tried a system restore no go


i tried to do the roll-back method.
my experience is that ms will update to the latest wmp-10 when you try to do the individualization.

also with that the latest drm2wmv doestn't work (no error just returns to the command line without doing anything)

i used the latest drmdbg (it crashes wmp about 50% of the time).
then i use an older versioin of drm2wmv. but it seems to quit on long movies. about 13%.

it works on the 1-minute ezdrm.com demos.

derfnoslen
26th June 2007, 22:05
I can't even get that far, when I try to rollback WMP11 it says that the roll back is complete but WMP 11 and runtime 11 is still listed in the add remove programs list.

SalSimp
27th June 2007, 13:40
ugh! I wish I remembered how I rolled back mine. There's an alternate way to do it I think by typing in something in run to delete. It's def somewhere in this thread b/c it's brought up at least once a week. Try a search using different key words until you find it. There's directions on how to do it with a download on here. Also, you can try google.



Try Motoboy66's method when all else fails. It works.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=918965#post918965

Post results please.

derfnoslen
27th June 2007, 19:37
I remember that post now, I'm going to try that when I get home from work, I'll post some results for you as well.

derfnoslen
27th June 2007, 23:23
Thanks alot for that post, I read the whole entire link, and then just used the shortcuts that he listed, it pulled up a box that went through the uninstall.

It asked a question about not being about to delete system file, I had to skip two files, then I did the 2nd shortcut and restarted, then WMP was gone (at last) from the add remove programs.

I uninstalled wmp11 runtime, restart, it didn't roll back to anything though, then installed, wmp11 beta, went to the ibx microsoft site with wmp beta still pressed the update button then closed wmp. Bad move, a wmp box came up saying "cancelling subscribtion rights", after that, I couldn't dowload anything using urge, it said that everything as not ava for download. I repeated the process without having wmp up while doing the update and it worked. yeah, thanks.

derfnoslen
28th June 2007, 19:37
Okay, now that I have WMP with fairuse working, my Zune program will not work, it's not listed under add/remove programs, so when I try to install it it says error: "restart computer and try again". I tried that no go, deleted everything from program files, and I'm going to try again once I get home from work, once I get this working I'm never doing anything to that computer again. haha :cool:

campermick
28th June 2007, 23:25
I just got a trial subscription to Napster. I can't convert any of the wma files to mp3. I heard about FairUse4wm and found it. I can't get it to work. I see posts hear with the same problem. Can you tell me where to look to find answers on how I can get it to work? I have no idea what some of the things you guys are talking about with this drm stuff.

Thanks Mick

opfreak
29th June 2007, 14:27
i've been out of the loop for a while, thinking this program died.

I currently am running vista x64, and zune with zune software. and paying for the music rental.

However, I prefer some napster, since imho it has more music.

if I set up a vm, running win xp in it, can I strip drm from napster files again?

I used to do this, but that was when I was running wmp10 (or whatever one is the 'old' version now).

mysekurity
29th June 2007, 23:14
Campermick: Please only use this program to remove DRM from tracks you own (not from subscriptions, and especially not from trials).

That said, if you choose to purchase the tracks, follow these steps:
-UnDRM the songs using FairUse4WM (see earlier in the thread for how to do this, but it should be pretty much self-explainatory)
-Convert the unprotected versions of the songs you own into mp3s using various conversion methods found throughout the internet.

protected wma can only be edited trivially (metadata, etc). You cannot convert it to another format or edit the waveform itself, or use it in many different ways.

So please, purchase the track. Don't abuse subscription services, and especially don't abuse the trial.

opfreak: yes, it is possible. Setup a virtual machine, undrm the files in the vm, and then drag them to your vista machine. (but again, keep it fair use).

derfnoslen: check your pm

campermick
30th June 2007, 03:28
Campermick: Please only use this program to remove DRM from tracks you own (not from subscriptions, and especially not from trials).

That said, if you choose to purchase the tracks, follow these steps:
-UnDRM the songs using FairUse4WM (see earlier in the thread for how to do this, but it should be pretty much self-explainatory)
-Convert the unprotected versions of the songs you own into mp3s using various conversion methods found throughout the internet.

protected wma can only be edited trivially (metadata, etc). You cannot convert it to another format or edit the waveform itself, or use it in many different ways.

So please, purchase the track. Don't abuse subscription services, and especially don't abuse the trial.

opfreak: yes, it is possible. Setup a virtual machine, undrm the files in the vm, and then drag them to your vista machine. (but again, keep it fair use).

derfnoslen: check your pm
Thanks for the reply. I will search the thread. I am new to all of this. I have the subscription to Napster so I assume that all that I download is mine. I am realizing that this may not be the case. I contacted them first about not being able to convert wma to mp3. Their suggestion was to burn to a cd then rip the cd into mp3 format. I use Nero and Nero won't burn the songs.

Danj
30th June 2007, 18:56
I have the subscription to Napster so I assume that all that I download is mine.

This assumption is incorrect. If you are on a subscription plan you do not "own" anything at all. You cease to be allowed to play the songs as soon as your subscription terminates.

campermick
30th June 2007, 22:19
Oh well, I guess you can't expect to get something for nothing. Thanks for the replies, it is appreciated

Mick

LotharZ
30th June 2007, 22:36
Ok, you can get drmdbg_19062007 here:

http://www.savefile.com/files/822788

Translation by http://www.excite.co.jp/world/english/ gives

Could you reupload the file, link is dead.

thx

Wilbert
1st July 2007, 16:42
Could you reupload the file, link is dead.
http://www.savefile.com/files/855836

platpeng
3rd July 2007, 16:20
what do you do with the .key file that is created with drmdbg?

Wilbert
3rd July 2007, 17:01
1) open drmdbg. WMP will pop up. open the file to decrypt. WMP will contact the server and check the lic. drmdbg will then automatically put a folder named DRM on the desktop which includes a file named drm2-i.key. you need to copy this into the drm2 folder inside the drm2wmv install directory.

2) now feed drm2wmv the WM file in question (e.g. simply drop it there) and it will be decrypted. wait until the process is over and the DOS window closes.

a new file is created without DRM.

kid/sid with FairUse4WM:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=882796#post882796

BelGarion
4th July 2007, 08:52
I must be doing something wrong. O.o That or in the interim since the last post Microsoft has 'fixed' things again. I run DecryptIt, it starts to load, WMP crashs, restarts, crashs, restarts, etc and at no point is the /DRM folder gets created on the Desktop. I tried the Automatic unDRM option and same thing, it doesn't unlock the encrypted file. :P I know the older 1.3 version and it tells me it is IBX version 11. So... This is a Windows XP Sp2 system. Help? How do I get the DRM off of these two clips? Thanks!

BelGarion

mujadeo
4th July 2007, 11:54
Does FU4 remove drm fromn subscription-based music, if you are a current subsciber?
I just want to get tunes on my mp3 player which doesnt play sub-based music.
I tried FU4 heres what it did:

it asked me to open a song.
I did this, then it plays in wmp (11) and FU4 seems to temporarilit lock up.
When I close wmp fu4 then says something about an error 9000.
I've searched through this thread but cant fiond anything on yahoo-music-to-go

Thanks for any help

johnnyquid
4th July 2007, 16:54
@Wilbert

What version should drm2wmv be? I got the key file placed as described but drm2wmv does not appear to do anything. It runs with no error messages but does not produce any files. I have a file with 30208 bytes and 2/4/2005 date. When it runs it says it is version 1.241 by taku.

Wilbert
4th July 2007, 21:49
I use drm2wmv_e.exe. I attached it for you. But i only removed the drm from a couple of movies.

campermick
4th July 2007, 21:58
I can't get it to work at all. I get the first screen and the only button available is: recover keys. I press that and it does it's thing and gives me errors. I tried the drmdbg_19062007 and it brings up media player. I select a ffile and a dos screen comes up but remains blank. The dos screen disappears but there is no file on my desktop or in my main directory. I was wondering. I am due for a reformat. If I reformat and instead of win xp I put win 2000 on, would this help? If not I am putting Xp 2 on with no updates. I will then put the tools offered here on and see what happens. Thanks,

Mick

mousemurder
5th July 2007, 15:42
@Wilbert

What version should drm2wmv be? I got the key file placed as described but drm2wmv does not appear to do anything. It runs with no error messages but does not produce any files. I have a file with 30208 bytes and 2/4/2005 date. When it runs it says it is version 1.241 by taku.

i beleive the version wilbert attached is the version i use.

it seems to be the same problem i had here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1019056#post1019056

has anyone been able to successfully undrm a complete movie using this method ?

i have successfully done the ezdrm.com demos but for full-length movies (e.g.- amazon unbox) it will quit when about 13 % thru.

is there any hope for the linux-media-pc user ?

zyonuf79
5th July 2007, 20:37
Can someone PM a link to download the most updated version of WMP that fairuse4wm works on (beta 2, 3, whatever)?

I cannot find it anywhere.

khoanhi
7th July 2007, 08:57
Special thanks to Wilbert!
Now, I can remove DRM, thanks again :D

mysekurity
12th July 2007, 00:36
Hey all,
I recently attempted to perform the rollback on my brother's system. Everything went smoothly up until the re-install of WMP, when the installer told me I was using an out-of-date package (11.0.5705.5043) to overwrite the installation (11.0.5721.5145). Anyone know how to get around this?

SalSimp
12th July 2007, 01:43
Hey all,
I recently attempted to perform the rollback on my brother's system. Everything went smoothly up until the re-install of WMP, when the installer told me I was using an out-of-date package (11.0.5705.5043) to overwrite the installation (11.0.5721.5145). Anyone know how to get around this?

Try Motoboy66's rollback method. Your rollback did not remove all elements of the previously installed WMP.

It's here -> http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=918965#post918965

pcdthebum
12th July 2007, 08:12
SalSimp, your link doesnt seem to be working.

bah147
12th July 2007, 15:57
Can someone PM a link to download the most updated version of WMP that fairuse4wm works on (beta 2, 3, whatever)?

I cannot find it anywhere.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/download/AllDownloads.aspx

SalSimp, your link doesnt seem to be working.

Try http://forum.doom9.org/search.php

mysekurity
13th July 2007, 03:36
Bah, the download you get from Microsoft is too new to work with FairUse. If anyone needs the download link, please pm me, and I'll send it to you.


And I think Salsimp updated the link. Oddly, I was looking at that very post just before I checked back here. Unfortunately, that didn't work either. Where does the installer check for previous (or future) versions? I tried getting rid of the registry setting in HKLM\Software\MS\MediaPlayer\Setup, but to no avail. I can't see where else it would look.....


Thanks in advance

bah147
13th July 2007, 07:05
Where does the installer check for previous (or future) versions? I tried getting rid of the registry setting in HKLM\Software\MS\MediaPlayer\Setup, but to no avail. I can't see where else it would look.....


Thanks in advance

Third time a charm-something like that- turn off System restore- reboot-restore holds our deleted files. Just make a restore point when u boot.That it/help?:confused:

mysekurity
13th July 2007, 09:01
I did a search for "11.0.5721.5145" with XP's crappy search tool, and it only brought back several pages in Temp Internet Files from URGE.

I doubt System Restore would have anything to do with the version, but I'll check.

bah147
13th July 2007, 13:00
Morning,

I misunderstood. I thought you were trying to find out where WMP might be hidden. If you delete and empty recycle bin- RP(restore points) still have the program. DEP ( I believe) protects system apps . Thats why ones WMP may pop back up, unexpectedly.


In reverse, WMP 9 , WMP10 is still on XP with WMP 11. Just have to find it.

Divine Tao
13th July 2007, 23:10
Users unable to downgrade from the 11.0.6000.6324 IBX version may find some help with a tool I have uploaded. More information can be found in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943).

mysekurity
14th July 2007, 01:48
Devine Tao, you are phenominal. Thank you so much.


And yes, it does work with FairUseCommander and *gasp* Zune DRM!!!!!

No effing way.

SalSimp
14th July 2007, 02:11
Users unable to downgrade from the 11.0.6000.6324 IBX version may find some help with a tool I have uploaded. More information can be found in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943).

Right out of the Da Vinci Code, go figure!

where_art_thou_viodentia
15th July 2007, 19:23
Allright I cant seem to find the post with the person saying PM me if you need the link for WMP 11 Beta 2 or 1 or anything.
I seriously cant find either of those mothereffing programs filehippo oldapps everything is gone except WMP 11 final.
I need the older version oighaiodhwasydiwd Please PM me or something with a link to it. I googled it and I went on for like 5 pages and i still couldnt find a working link to download WMP 11 beta 1 or 2 ...Blah

where_art_thou_viodentia
15th July 2007, 19:25
I have WMP beta 2 on my Regular computer but at the moment im on a trip and i had wmp 10 installed on here but i use URGE so im kinda stuck and need wmp 11 beta 1 or 2. So i mean i could hold out until i get back from my trip but it would be AMAZING if i could Get a link =)

pcdthebum
16th July 2007, 03:42
Dont kill me if it isnt the right version, but i am pretty sure this is one of the beta's, that is to say it is not the final version of wmp11. so enjoy it while its there.

Edit* I uploaded it, so thats how i know its not the final version
Edit2* mysekurity makes a good point, and although I think the worst case scenario is RS deleting the file, but to avoid any complications for myself or doom9, I will remove the link and will gladly pm it to anyone who needs it :)

mysekurity
17th July 2007, 03:42
pcd: What I've done to aviod MS taking it down is to only tell people the link via PM. I figure there might be a spy sooner or later, but for now, it's been up a couple months (11.0.5705). Luckily though, it seems we can still use 11.0.6 for a while with Divine's new fix, thus keeping us safe for now.

Where_art: Try looking at this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943)(mentioned just a few posts above yours). You should be able to download Windows Media Player from Microsoft's website and use FairUse with no hassle.

where_art_thou_viodentia
17th July 2007, 19:27
Works perfect with windows media Final
Thanks!!!
You guys are lifesavers
the chewy kind...
you know
the only good ones

CER22
17th July 2007, 19:49
The new fairuse program uploaded by devine is making news on aol's news page. Be careful

ybarra
17th July 2007, 21:42
Yeah...it made Fox News also. Time for Divine to go into hiding...

I've known about the key thing for some time now. If you have valid keys already imported into Fairuse4WM, it will still work even though you upgrade to the latest version of WMP or even upgrade to Vista (I've done both). Fairuse4WM will continue to work as long as your media doesn't get rekeyed. Divine's program apparently just imports the new keys into Fairuse4WM's database so it can continue to work as content gets rekeyed or if you d/l new content with new keys (unlike the Fox News article that says that the "newest version" of fairuse4wm has been released unless I missed version 1.4 somewhere...).

where_art_thou_viodentia
17th July 2007, 23:28
Actually
When you use divines program it adds an ENTIRELY NEW key into fair use
so then that does mean you need a new key dosnt it?
tell me if im wrong ybarra.
Also
I cant find the link to download FU4WM commander anywhere
I searched for it like 30 times with different names and couldnt find it in the forums
if som1 knows where it is...?

Ajax_Undone
18th July 2007, 01:00
Want to know how to get Fairuse4WM working for MP11 and Vista...

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943

where_art_thou_viodentia
18th July 2007, 01:27
Thank you ajax somebody PM'ed me about that.
I told em to look at divines post

ybarra
18th July 2007, 03:19
Actually
When you use divines program it adds an ENTIRELY NEW key into fair use
so then that does mean you need a new key dosnt it?
tell me if im wrong ybarra.
Also
I cant find the link to download FU4WM commander anywhere
I searched for it like 30 times with different names and couldnt find it in the forums
if som1 knows where it is...?

Yeah. For instance, some music services will use your BOX keys for several months so if you successfully import them into fairuse4wm before upgrading, then you can continue using fairuse4wm indefinitely regardless of whether or not you upgrade to the latest WMP or Vista (because you've already imported in the old BOX keys based on the old version). However, once your music service forces you to generate a new key (based on the new version of WMP) it will quit working. Same thing goes for buying new music from another service. This new program will extract the new keys and insert them into fairuse4wm's key file, so it should get you working with all new BOX keys.

Ajax_Undone
18th July 2007, 04:40
Here is a way of using napster w/o Media Player 10 or above


Past this Url into your browser after you install Napster plugin

For XP and MP10
http://sms.napster.com/client/plugin/wmp10/pane_home.html?locale=409&geoid=f4&version=11.0.5497.6285&userlocale=409

For XP/ VISTA and MP11
http://sms.napster.com/client/plugin/wmp10/pane_home.html?locale=409&geoid=f4&version=11.0.6000.6324&userlocale=409

Now these have not been tested on firefox browser just IE 6 sp2 and 7

where_art_thou_viodentia
18th July 2007, 17:52
can somebody PLEASE
PM me the link or post the link to Fair Use Commander
You know the program that you use to just automatically find all your DRM music and make it all clean and shiny?

Ajax_Undone
18th July 2007, 20:11
can somebody PLEASE
PM me the link or post the link to Fair Use Commander
You know the program that you use to just automatically find all your DRM music and make it all clean and shiny?

Check you PM:devil:

where_art_thou_viodentia
18th July 2007, 20:25
Ajax thank you
again
another chewy lifesaver

where_art_thou_viodentia
18th July 2007, 20:42
I just wanted to say
that the directions to get WMP 11 working with fair use before Divine brought out his big guns worked fine for me every time i did it.
You know the directions on the xarus page?
I dont understand what other people were doing. it seemed so straight forward.
Somebody tell me what you were doing differently? lol

Ajax_Undone
18th July 2007, 21:22
Your welcome...

"Even if you are the stupidest idiot you still should be able to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the hill..."
~ AJH

Money = Broken apps...
Frustration = Apps that need broken into ...

Time + money + Frustration = Broken into apps and answers to why they fail in the first place...

DRM was a Broken App to begin with. Like most spyware it required the computer to call home to some otherwise unknown corporation... sending Info that could be gotten easily enough by even the most stupid of hackers...

And DRM like spyware Eats Up A LOT Of My Time and computer resources F***ing with it to get rid of it...

So in result DRM Techs = Spyware that infects most of the worlds population of Computers...

Don't Conform you will regret it...

And if time = Money in the real world then I have earned every piece of media I have Paid For... At leased Twice...

where_art_thou_viodentia
18th July 2007, 21:50
Ajax
Im with you man
i may not have done as much as you have
but ive been following this post since last year...
and yea i really do not understand how people cant follow the directions. I mean i understand that people with VISTA have problems allright but everybody with XP just follow the godsdamn directions and everything will work.

milOtis
18th July 2007, 22:17
For all those wondering if they made the Microsoft download in time, the final WMP and IBX versions that work with this latest 1.3v2 release are:

Windows Media Player (WMP) = 11.0.5721.5146
Individual Blackbox Key (IBX) = 11.0.6000.6324

For all those wondering about Vista...forget it. I have been using Vista Ultimate since it was released, and I am getting problems that haven't been issues since Windows 98. Vista is NOT for the power user, Vista is NOT for someone who likes to customize and exploit the potential of their PC. Right now XP is the best thing for PCs. Vista will not be stable until SP1 or SP2 is released. This is not uncommon for Microsoft...when XP was released in July/August of 2001 it was HORRIBLE, with a captital H! Vista is currently in this stage right now.

As of today, July 18, The best possible setup for FairUse4WM users is Windows XP SP2 and this new FairUse4WM 1.3v2, and WMP 11.0.5721.5146. Forget about Vista, I have converted back to XP after many months of using Vista.

::: milOtis

P.S. - If you are unsure if the download from the microsoft website is the ".5146" version that you need, just extract the EXE to a folder (its bacially just a zip file) then right-click propeties for "setup_wm.exe" and check the verison...if it is 11.0.5721.5146, then you are good to go. In fact, I just completely removed everything...WMP, Urge, even Windows MEdia Player checkbox from Control Panel/Windows Compnents, to make sure I would have a full clean install of WMP. I also deleted everything in the DRM folder under "All Users", and now everything works great all updated. I would recommend doing it that way so you don't have any possible overlapping file versions.

-edit- ADDITION:
How to check IBX version on XP:

Go to the following folder: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\
Right-click on "IndivBox.key" and click the "Version" tab
If it says "File Version: 11.0.6000.6324" you did everything right

Note: If you do not see the DRM folder, you need to click "Tools", "Folder Options", and then the "View" tab, click the "Show hidden files..." bubble, and uncheck the two "Hide..." boxes beneath it. Then click "Apply", "OK"

((FYI - To reindividualize, you dont have to go to the MS individualize site...just play a new download in WMP, it will automatically make new IBX files.))

derregulator
19th July 2007, 07:26
To whom it may concern,
my system: Windows XP SP2, WMP10, Napster subscriber
I have read about the problems with wmp11 and FU4.
Beneath how I´ve solved the problem.
1. Install WIN XP home and SP 2 with WMP10, no automatic updates by windows.
2. Install Fairuse4wm13 fix and Napster
3. Download a Napster Music file
4. Play the file with WMP10 (report "Aquiring license")
5. Download from
www.ezdrm.com/demos
examples free.

6. Start fairuse4wm and search for keys. In my case I´ve found 15 keys. Now you can remove DRM from all music files downloaded by Napster.
Anybody who will change the .wma format to .mp3, .ogg or .wav can download a trial version of wma advanced workshop beneath
www.chip.de/downloads/c1_downloads_13001478.html

Removalsoftware for WMP 11 Beta
www.pcwelt.de/downloads/pcwelt_tools/tools/59763

Downloadlink WMP10
http://windows-media-player-xp-10.softonic.de
Hope, i could help.

milOtis
19th July 2007, 16:11
I just wanted to say
that the directions to get WMP 11 working with fair use before Divine brought out his big guns worked fine for me every time i did it.
You know the directions on the xarus page?
I dont understand what other people were doing. it seemed so straight forward.
Somebody tell me what you were doing differently? lol


you mean MY directions from last november, back in 2006, that xarus copy/pasted from here to his site and took credit for? yeah, they DO work. lol

::: milOtis

milOtis
19th July 2007, 16:12
To whom it may concern,
my system: Windows XP SP2, WMP10, Napster subscriber
I have read about the problems with wmp11 and FU4.
Beneath how I´ve solved the problem....

hey, if you read the last page or so, you dont need to do any of that anymore....the DivineTao release of FairUse4WM 1.3v2works with WMP11 final now, so ditch all that.

derregulator
20th July 2007, 06:37
@milOtis,
thanks for the advice.

bigmurph
22nd July 2007, 06:56
hey, if you read the last page or so, you dont need to do any of that anymore....the DivineTao release of FairUse4WM 1.3v2works with WMP11 final now, so ditch all that.

Problems with the new method. I am using Napster and am licensed to play files.
WMP 10 rollback (tried to rollback my WMP11 before mirakagi patch to no avail)
Latest IBX 11.0.6000.6324.

Mirakagi works "Found 7 keys in keyring":

Mirakagi starts, code version 0.9
Found 7 keys in keyring.
-----------------
Processing "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\cache\Indiv01.key"
Version: 11.0.6000.6324 ...
XML - Cert: 84 bytes, Key Storage: 3366 bytes.
DLL 1000/8dbda @ ac01000 && 8f000/1ba89 @ ac8f000
Large 1340 Small 0 Special 13,0 (0,179)
S: 3 T:3 X:51
AES: 4e 68 d7 2b c6 01 cf 5a 1e f3 3f ee 1f 73 a3 45
Decoding secondary keys
Please wait for 19587 attempts.
It is finished.

Then when I try to use Fairuse 1.3 FIX2 to recover keys this is the message I get:

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.
Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Upon "Converting," this is the message I get (Zero converted):

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\My Music\Blackfoot - Highway Song (LP Version).wma requires a different private key.

Any ideas? I've seen a few others with problems like this - "requiring a different key"

MoMoBird
22nd July 2007, 17:43
where can I find the new version? I checked the usual torrent sites and only see regular 1.3.

pcdthebum
22nd July 2007, 19:35
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943

Thanks to divine tao

bigmurph
23rd July 2007, 04:28
where can I find the new version? I checked the usual torrent sites and only see regular 1.3.

its packaged with mirakagi zip

milOtis
24th July 2007, 17:33
bigmurph,

yeah, you cant just upgrade over what you got now in some cases...you have to go to control panel, remove everything from windows components as well having to do with media player and do a clean install with wmp11 final. this means you will need to UNdrm any of your current files that are protected, because you will be given new licenses when you reintall this latest WMP and napster that Fix2 DOES work with

dont update, clean it out, and install fresh. that way you are guaranteed to have not only fresh IBX licenses that the new FairUse works with, but also all correct WMP file versions of ddl's etc...

::: milOtis

Winston Smith
29th July 2007, 01:06
It is a shame that the friend viodentia has never came back. :(

bigmurph
29th July 2007, 21:31
bigmurph,

yeah, you cant just upgrade over what you got now in some cases...you have to go to control panel, remove everything from windows components as well having to do with media player and do a clean install with wmp11 final. this means you will need to UNdrm any of your current files that are protected, because you will be given new licenses when you reintall this latest WMP and napster that Fix2 DOES work with

dont update, clean it out, and install fresh. that way you are guaranteed to have not only fresh IBX licenses that the new FairUse works with, but also all correct WMP file versions of ddl's etc...

::: milOtis


hey milotis,

when i rolled back, i used one of your guides or someone elses on the Doom9 forums. I'm too lazy to search for it, but I think it was the same process you described here. Add/remove programs, then I deleted WMP11 and an additional 3-4 patches that the procedure described. I restarted many times, but I'm not sure if I did it right. At the end I went to the Napster site http://home.cfl.rr.com/privftp/?D=D and used Auto DRM-reset (which may have been stupid, but Fairuse wasn't working and my songs weren't playing either at that time-before FIX2 and mirakagi). I might try to do it again, but don't have time now. I would really like to be able to do this - and I thought I would have success like others (who are actually using WMP11 without rollback!) - without having to reformat XP. I have 1000+ songs right now and it would be a pain in the ass to go back and download them all again from Napster and then UNdrm them after a fresh install of windowsXP. ANy advice/links?

Thanks

bigmurph
29th July 2007, 21:32
It is a shame that the friend viodentia has never came back. :(

<mod: removed post>

bigmurph
29th July 2007, 21:33
bigmurph,

yeah, you cant just upgrade over what you got now in some cases...you have to go to control panel, remove everything from windows components as well having to do with media player and do a clean install with wmp11 final. this means you will need to UNdrm any of your current files that are protected, because you will be given new licenses when you reintall this latest WMP and napster that Fix2 DOES work with

dont update, clean it out, and install fresh. that way you are guaranteed to have not only fresh IBX licenses that the new FairUse works with, but also all correct WMP file versions of ddl's etc...

::: milOtis


Found the procedure saved in my favorites. It was described in the doom9 forums somewhere, too.

http://www.kensavage.com/index.php/archives/how-to-uninstall-and-rollback-windows-media-player-11/

Winston Smith
30th July 2007, 00:44
<mod: removed post>

Why was necessary to edit the post of Bigmurph? :confused:

Did I say something bad? :eek:

:scared:

pcdthebum
30th July 2007, 04:02
Why was necessary to edit the post of Bigmurph? :confused:

Did I say something bad? :eek:

:scared:

maybe it is all a conspiracy....or maybe it was better that that not be said for the protection of said person...

Simonjp
31st July 2007, 11:09
I just wanted to say - thank you! This is excellent.

Termy58
2nd August 2007, 22:06
Link is dead.

SvT
2nd August 2007, 22:28
Link is dead.

What link is Dead ???

Is this what you want ?

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943

mousemurder
12th August 2007, 02:58
EDIT: Post removed. Talking about copying Netfix (rental) movies violates forum rule 6.

mousemurder
13th August 2007, 18:06
EDIT: Post removed. Talking about copying Netfix (rental) movies violates forum rule 6.

sorry neuron2,
this was really in response to this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=128703

about something followed in the news about this phenomina.

the thread asks about where fair use line lies.

i'll try to edit it and repost the drm specific details.

thanks,

zyonuf79
15th August 2007, 03:32
Do the new updates affect the use of the current working fairuse?

Specifically KB936782

milOtis
15th August 2007, 08:53
you are not any less secure w/o the update, so why update?

Hercules
15th August 2007, 20:11
I am still searching for information to add an "output" directory into the listed ones... I have no XML files associated with FairUse that I can find to edit.. and yes, I searched hidden files.

royal
17th August 2007, 16:57
i'm having some trouble and am hoping someone can help.

I bought a video off amazon's unbox service and used the FairUse4WM_v13Fix-2 file that was posted here. I stripped the drm just fine and moved it over to my media pc and it worked just fine. Now I also bought 2 tv shows off unbox and used the same method as above, but this time the resulting video on the other pc is green and purple. you can see everything just fine, just it has those colors. anyone know how i can fix this, as it looks like some drm? is still in there. Thanks

Ajax_Undone
17th August 2007, 19:45
Well if it is purple and green that means that the video is crap it was encoded by a monkey....

next time buy the dvd and rip it to Divx or X.264...

milOtis
22nd August 2007, 16:59
IT IS A SAD DAY!

MTV has decided to go with Rhapsody instead of URGE...so come September, no more unlimited downloads for a flat fee (which is what URGE is)... :(

::: milOtis

balazer
22nd August 2007, 17:32
Isn't Rhapsody also unlimited downloads for a flat fee?

milOtis
22nd August 2007, 17:50
yes, i posted that while i was still downloading and installing Rhapsody...it is just as good as URGE! Unlimited downloads, still in WMA format :) Granted, the interface bites and isn't as easy to browse and find songs, but I can live with that. Fairuse4wm still works too. i was worried because when it installed it said "updating digital rights management", and i was like "Darn", but then when i downloaded a whole album, and fairuse4wm still worked, i was happy.

oh, plus...it is FREE for current Urge subscribers until 2008 :) i was paying $10 month to month, and now dont have to pay anything for 5 months :)

::: milOtis

-edit-
DOWNSIDE: files are now 160kbps downloads instead of 192kbps
and
URGE music not available for download through Rhapsody...URGE has 75% more music than Rhapsody including all the normal studio CDs, but also DJ remixes, single cd releases, artist imports, etc...Rhapsody has none of these

derfnoslen
23rd August 2007, 01:42
Rhapsody is saving everything in Real Audio Protected, is there a way to change it to download as wma, my fairuse will not even detect these files?

nandrews
23rd August 2007, 08:13
I have downloaded (by mistake) a number of videos which, in VLC play with loads of screen corruption and in WMP bring up a DRM message and then a webpage asking for payment to get a pwd.
Should FU4W disable this and make the video playable?
The v1.3 I just downloaded, when run on one of the videos, quickly says that I don't own rights to the video!!
Not very helpful!

I am doing it right or is there another way to overcome this block on my fun!

Thank-you
Nigel

derfnoslen
23rd August 2007, 12:06
I have downloaded (by mistake) a number of videos which, in VLC play with loads of screen corruption and in WMP bring up a DRM message and then a webpage asking for payment to get a pwd.
Should FU4W disable this and make the video playable?
The v1.3 I just downloaded, when run on one of the videos, quickly says that I don't own rights to the video!!
Not very helpful!

I am doing it right or is there another way to overcome this block on my fun!

Thank-you
Nigel

You actually have to have the rights to view or listen to the file BEFORE you use Fairuse4WM. If it's asking for a password you may not have the rights to view that file. FU4W doesn't disable the fact that you don't have access to the file, via not paying for a subscription, etc. It just takes the drm off of it. So you will need to be able to play the video before you can even use FU4WM.

milOtis
23rd August 2007, 17:24
Rhapsody is saving everything in Real Audio Protected, is there a way to change it to download as wma, my fairuse will not even detect these files?

yeah, in Rhapsody, just go into "Tools", "Preferences", "My Library" and select the WMA option. It is the crappy real-audio by default, just change it to WMA

::: milOtis

banglbanglbang
24th August 2007, 03:06
can any body help me

i been a trying 2 remove "DRM" protection

from a file and i couldn`t

the problem is i updated the old v. of wmp 10

with the latest security update ,when i tried 2 open a protected song it asked 4 the update "it`s a must u can`t play the file with out updating"

now the file work great but i can`t remove the protection from it using "FairUse4Wm 1.3 fix2"

it give me this:
c:\..........abc.wmv requires a different private key.


why is that happening....the file work fine
and i backup it`s license too in my Documents:confused::confused:

wht d i do???? 2 solve this problem

milOtis
24th August 2007, 18:02
you updated to a new version of media player, thus a new version of IBX...the IBX is based on your media player version, so you cannot go back an undo it anymore. you would need to redownload the file under your new updated DRM setup, then you will be able to remove DRM.

you also need to run the first step of fairuse4wm again...when it opens, click back, and recquire keys. if you are using the new fairuse4wm 1.3 fix2, then then use the secondary program to reaquire keys. you have to do that since you updated.

::: milOtis

samukas
24th August 2007, 19:15
Hi everyone. I have used FairUse 3/4 months ago under WinXP and the media player that came with it and everything worked OK... But now I bought a laptop with Vista and I'm confused, which version do I need to be able to remove DRM from my wmv files?

Thanks in advance.

Edit: The files play fine in windows media player (11), so I think everything is ok with the licenses... I just don't now how to get the DRM off...

Edit2: Forget it, all I had to do was reading a bit in the topics :P

jce05
25th August 2007, 02:37
ok here is the deal. I have some porn .wmv files that I am trying to burn to disk so I can play on my dvd player. I am use ashampoo to burn my wmv files to dvd and it works fine. except when I have drm's in the wmv files then ashampoo says it cant use the wmv file.

so i was able to get fairuse4wm 1.3 fix but I cant figure out how to get the wmv files with the drm into the fairuse4wm program so it can do its thing. it wont let me drag the wmv files into the fairuse4wm window. I try to bring the wmv file up on my media player (it is version 11.0.5721) to ask for the liscense and it never asks me it just plays it all the time. cause I thought I read that you run fairuse4wm when you are on that screen. I think it asked once but hasnt sense.

when I run fairuse4wm I get this

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1340 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 6,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

if anyone can help I'd appreciate it because they are great wmv files and I would love to get them on my big screen

thanks Hank

jce05
25th August 2007, 02:47
then fairuse 4wm says


attempting to recover DRMv1 keys

Fairuse4wm will use a WM-installed DLL to determine system specific information

"DrmClien.DLL" has version 10.0.0.3646


I just got windows media player to ask me for a liscense on the wmv file so I stopped at that screen and opened fairuse4wm 1.3fix to try to run it and got the same results nothing'

thanks in advance

milOtis
25th August 2007, 16:08
ok here is the deal. I have some porn .wmv files that I am trying to burn to disk so I can play on my dvd player.

loser, get a wife.

::: milOtis

jce05
25th August 2007, 16:10
I already have a wife. she watches porn with me. now can you help me out or what?

banglbanglbang
25th August 2007, 17:52
jce05
u have to use "FairUse4WM fix 2" to work with wmp 11

http://fairuse4wm2.googlepages.com/FairUse4WM_v13Fix-2.zip

or

http://fairuse4wm.googlepages.com/FairUse4WM_v13Fix-2.zip

Danj
25th August 2007, 18:40
You also need to use the "mirakagi" utility first, before trying fu4wm-fix2, otherwise you won't have the key to decrypt the files.

jce05
25th August 2007, 21:46
You also need to use the "mirakagi" utility first, before trying fu4wm-fix2, otherwise you won't have the key to decrypt the files.


great thanks. how do I get the mirakagi utility?

and then how do I get fu4wm-fix2 to know I want it to remove drm from a specific wmv file

thanks

jce05
25th August 2007, 22:05
I got the Mirakaji utility thanks. it is making more sense now.
once I ran the Mirakaji Utility I can know put files in fuwm4 fix2.1

now it says the file is not liscensed to me. how do I get FairUse4wm 2.1 to know that the file is liscensed to me?

thanks Hank

where_art_thou_viodentia
27th August 2007, 03:19
Ughh everybody and again im on a different computer the link for Fair Use Commander that i had before is dead i need a new link BLAH
help please <3

mysekurity
27th August 2007, 08:16
w_a_t_v: check your inbox.

milOtis
27th August 2007, 09:25
I got the Mirakaji utility thanks. it is making more sense now.
once I ran the Mirakaji Utility I can know put files in fuwm4 fix2.1

now it says the file is not liscensed to me. how do I get FairUse4wm 2.1 to know that the file is liscensed to me?

thanks Hank


look, you can only use FairUse4WM on files YOU have downloaded on your computer (and only before you update)...you can NEVER remove DRM from a file that another computer downloaded, and you can't remove DRM rom files downloaded before you last ran updates.

You will NOT get any errors if you are running FairUse4WM on files you yourself downloaded, and havent updated snce you downloaded. You are obviously trying to remove DRM from a porn file you did not download -or- downloaded before you updated last (thus the old drm licenses are gone)...you cannot "make" a file licensed to you if it is on your computer and not licensed...you have to redownload it on your current system.

try reading the last 50pages before asking a simple question about how to use fairuse4wm, please!

::: milOtis

xanthan
27th August 2007, 18:26
I got this message when I tried to use FairUse

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 9,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

SvT
27th August 2007, 18:33
I got this message when I tried to use FairUse

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 9,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

Search this thread for "unable identify" and that will help you.

Also this thread http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127943

bigmurph
27th August 2007, 22:28
I posted on here a little while ago about 2 pages back... I am getting "Requires a different private key," still, after running mirakaji. Does anyone know the last IBX key or whatever that this mirakaji and Fix2 will work with.

I am suspecting nobody knows the answer to this problem yet, but I have seen a similar problem on other theads. On the other hand, other users seem to have had success with this key 11.0.6000.6324 using this method. I am unsure how to proceed, so I guess I will just wait it out for another patch (unlikely).

I just don't really want to reformat my computer right now (to rollback to WMP10) because I have +1000 files saved from Napster that I would have liked to remove DRM from and would rather not re-download all my files if not necessary. I would be glad if someone could suggest something to me. The rollback method I used previously did not work:
http://www.kensavage.com/index.php/archives/how-to-uninstall-and-rollback-windows-media-player-11/

Is there something else I should do? Should I try this again and then do Mirakaji?

Thanks,
Matt

milOtis
28th August 2007, 22:38
i can't help you with your problems...i just today updated a computer that had an old wmp11 beta to wmp11 final (current from MS website) then ran fairuse4wm and the mirakaji thing, and have already downloaded and removed the DRM from over 100 new files.

i have found that people who are getting the 'different private key' error, are trying to remove DRM on files they downloaded before they updated, which obviously will not work since your IBX is different after your update WMP

i would suggest you redownload the latest media player, install it, and then redownload the original DRM file again, and try fairuse4wm fix2 after that...because FairUse4WM 1.3 FIX2 is WORKING with the latest Windows Media Player download/updates

::: milOtis

milOtis
28th August 2007, 22:42
I got this message when I tried to use FairUse

Extraction in progress on "Indiv01.key" 11.0.6000.6324 -- Please wait.
Phase 0 : Blocks: 1341 Large 0 Small, Errors: 0,0 Candidates: 9,3,2
Failure - Unable to identify RC4 and AES internal keys.

im gonna go crazy if someone posts this again...what is this, like 100 identical posts asking about this same error now??? it's always by someone with zero or only 1 post also!

i mean what do people do? search for this thread on google then post w/o reading a damn thing? I mean when I search google for answers, and I find a forum, I read about all the problems and issues everyone else run into, THEN I make a post if it is not answered.....isn't that common sense? You just waste your time when you post w/o reading, cause then someone has to TELL you to read, then you have to go back and read it anyway a day later!

PLEASE...If you have a question, READ this entire thread, or at least search it for your issue....there is NOTHING you can come up with, any POSSIBLE of error, that we all haven't already run into and dealt with! PLEASE READ!


::: milOtis

Homer J. Simpson
29th August 2007, 02:04
I posted this Q as a new thread in General Decrypting http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=129351

neuron2 suggested that I post in this thread.



I have some instructional videos on an old computer (Win XP/WMP 10) in ASF format. They are protected by MS Media Player DRM. The company that I purchased the videos from no longer exists.

I want to move these files to my new computers (XP WMP 10 or 11).

When I try to open them on the new computer I get a message that I need a license to play these files and then a blank browser (page can not be found) window opens since the company no longer exists.

I have also tried backup/restore of license files to new computer but get a message that I have exceeded my restores for that day (I get the message every day and have been trying for a few weeks).

I have tried the new 'fixed' version of Fairuse4wm but get an error message 'wrong private key'


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

milOtis
29th August 2007, 20:34
I posted this Q as a new thread in General Decrypting http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=129351

neuron2 suggested that I post in this thread.



I have some instructional videos on an old computer (Win XP/WMP 10) in ASF format. They are protected by MS Media Player DRM. The company that I purchased the videos from no longer exists.

I want to move these files to my new computers (XP WMP 10 or 11).

When I try to open them on the new computer I get a message that I need a license to play these files and then a blank browser (page can not be found) window opens since the company no longer exists.

I have also tried backup/restore of license files to new computer but get a message that I have exceeded my restores for that day (I get the message every day and have been trying for a few weeks).

I have tried the new 'fixed' version of Fairuse4wm but get an error message 'wrong private key'


Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


you will NOT be able to undrm those files. ASX/ASF files used to use a different DRM method than IBX which is no longer used in WMV files.

your best bet is to install a video card with S-Video output, and play the files full screen on the old computer, and output them to another capturing device, whether that be a DVD recorder, VHS player, another computer with video-inputs, or whatever u might have.

you have too much working against you...OLD files, company out of business, on an old computer, AND in ASF format...trust me, don't lose sleep over this, export them and capture them via an analog video card.

::: milOtis

Ajax_Undone
30th August 2007, 04:17
Ok Homer try this if you still have your old computer use the fairuse4wm1.3 fix 2 and remove the drm before you trash the old dino...

If the old computer dose not have the files on it transfer them back to the old computer and then use what i just said...

If you can not then its hopeless as milOtis has stated and just do a direct video transfer threw an analog cable...

YourNameHere
30th August 2007, 17:24
Found a utility the readers of this thread will be interested in.

http://maxupload.com/9B2A54D0

Well worth taking the time to checkout.

milOtis
30th August 2007, 19:27
cool thanks, i will use this utility...but is there one out there that can constantly monitor a certain folder, and when a protected file is downloaded, it automatically tells fairuse4wm to remove DRM, then deletes the old file?

i am fine with WMA format, every music player on the market can play WMA files (except crappy ipods), even my card MP3/WMA cd player can play them, so i dont need the mp3 convert option, but it would be nice for downloaded DRM files to be autostripped, then have the original protected copy auto-deleted.

::: milOtis

mysekurity
31st August 2007, 04:16
Homer J. Simpson: Try SDP Downloader. You put in the mms (or URL) of the file you're trying to download, and it'll pull it from the web. A very useful tool, and open source, I believe.

YourNameHere: I ran the tool (with conversion disabled), and I think it started going through my entire collection. I stopped it before it got too far, but can you tell us what exactly it does? Is there a way to control which songs get converted, where they go, etc? If not, I think I'll just stick with FairUseCommander (though yes, I wish it did have an extension to convert...)

YourNameHere
31st August 2007, 05:07
The tool passes the input dir to fairuse4wm. Fairuse then scans the dir and all subdir looking for drm'd files, stripping the drm'd files and skipping the non-drm'd. The tool then deletes the source drm'd files and renames the stripped files to the original drm'd filename (so you dont end up with a drm'd file and a non-drm'd file, who needs both?).

If you choose to convert to mp3, the tool converts all wma's in the input dir and subdirs to mp3 and outputs them to the specified output dir rebuilding the dir structure. If an mp3 already exists, it is skipped and not "reconverted".

Just give it a try on a dir that only has a few drm'd files in it and see the results for yourself. Once you understand how it works, it is very handy.

I have an iPod so it is handy. I can run it on a "My Music" dir full of drm'd files and end up with a "My Music - MP3" dir full of MP3s complete with tags and original directory structure. As I add more drm'd music to "My Music" I just run the tool again and it strips and converts any files that are new since last time I ran it.

mysekurity
1st September 2007, 05:39
YourNameHere... I think it works nicely, but besides from the auto mp3 conversion, what does it have that FairUseCommander doesn't?

Is it possible to implement a table, the way FairUseCommander does? It'd help so that I don't convert files I don't want...

Thanks though.... (any chance in open-sourcing it? I'd like to take a crack at the code)

YourNameHere
1st September 2007, 16:57
YourNameHere... I think it works nicely, but besides from the auto mp3 conversion, what does it have that FairUseCommander doesn't?

Is it possible to implement a table, the way FairUseCommander does? It'd help so that I don't convert files I don't want...

Thanks though.... (any chance in open-sourcing it? I'd like to take a crack at the code)


Check your PM

Ajax_Undone
3rd September 2007, 00:20
YourNameHere

Check your PM!

picree
7th September 2007, 04:33
What's the mechanism for converting to MP3 files? How is it doing that? Is it a bit-for-bit conversion and is any quality lost? Seems to convert quickly...and it can change the bit rate on the fly?????

Also, seem like for some reason WMAUtility wants to close Firefox when it converts???? Did it twice (XP machine), hung the first time, then w/o Firefox it ran fine...

YourNameHere
7th September 2007, 05:34
What's the mechanism for converting to MP3 files? How is it doing that? Is it a bit-for-bit conversion and is any quality lost? Seems to convert quickly...and it can change the bit rate on the fly?????

Also, seem like for some reason WMAUtility wants to close Firefox when it converts???? Did it twice (XP machine), hung the first time, then w/o Firefox it ran fine...

It uses lame for the mp3 encoding. It encodes CBR at the bitrate you select from the drop-down, I normally use 192k since that is what my source wma files are encoded at and it keeps them at roughly the same file size.

Not sure about the closing firefox windows. Weird though.

KenD00
7th September 2007, 14:29
But you know that encoding from one lossless format into another results in great quality loss, do you? Better choose a higher bitrate to not loose too much. And why in hell CBR, VBR offers better quality at a smaller filesize than CBR.

Edit: really bad typo, i mean lossy instead of lossless

:rolleyes:

YourNameHere
7th September 2007, 16:01
But you know that encoding from one lossless format into another results in great quality loss, do you? Better choose a higher bitrate to not loose too much. And why in hell CBR, VBR offers better quality at a smaller filesize than CBR.

:rolleyes:

I wrote this app for my own use and decided to post it in case it was of value to anyone else. It does what I need, no more, no less. You are welcome to write one that does what you want if you wish. :rolleyes:

KenD00
7th September 2007, 19:54
It was just an information / suggestion, not a request ;).

:rolleyes:

picree
8th September 2007, 01:15
But you know that encoding from one lossless format into another results in great quality loss, do you? Better choose a higher bitrate to not loose too much. And why in hell CBR, VBR offers better quality at a smaller filesize than CBR.

Edit: really bad typo, i mean lossy instead of lossless

:rolleyes:

AFAIK, CBR is compatible with more devices and less problematic.

Thank you YourNameHere. Good little app.

GhostRider4u
10th September 2007, 08:38
Hi there I need to speak to someone about licenses and not even being able to aquire them when by purchasing them. I tried to pay for the right to watch the videos and it says it can't procede I have contacted the sites concerned and they have said it must be my end as everything is working at theirs. etc.................. I get the message "does not appear to be licensed to you", any help with what I am doing wrong would be appreciated thank you

dekline
10th September 2007, 13:14
Hello ;-)

I downloaded FairUse4Wm.exe and mirakagi.exe!
Then I try to get the keys but mirakagi.exe says:

Mirakagi starts, code version 0.9
Found 0 keys in keyring.
It is finished.

My Windows Media Player Version is 10.00.00.4058

GhostRider4u
10th September 2007, 14:17
It worked I did it I finally found away to purchase the license and the rest you can work out for yourself this is just so fantastic thank you so much to the people out there that made it possible

mysekurity
10th September 2007, 20:09
Dekline: Try using the key finder in FairUse4WM (on the "add files" dialog page, click the back button, then find keys).

Mirakagi seems to be only for the newer ibx's.

drummer7
17th September 2007, 22:42
There's a new IndivBox.key - 11.0.6000.7000

Guess what? :) :(

StreamRipper
18th September 2007, 13:33
Freeme2 - freeware open source software to remove DRM protection from Windows Media .WMA audio files.

I have successfully undrmed wma file under IndivBox.key version 11.59-something (don't remember exact version ). So the main conclusion is that the software works. It extracts correct SIDs and it's able to undrm wma files using it. The main problem is why it doesn't work with wmv files (it says something about packet_lenght). It's the same issue as with the original freeme.

I will try disassembling drm2wmv which is able to handle both wma and wmv files and he is pretty sure it is also freeme based. But if someone knows a fix to freeme (as a result also to freeme2) to make it work with wmv please post here, at stream-recorder.com (http://stream-recorder.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1770&page=3) or PM me.

If someone is interested source code can be found here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeme2

jetfire4
18th September 2007, 15:35
Subj: movies with limited day licenses can be cracked

To whom it may concern, I didn't have time to read through this whole forum to see if this is already here, but here is what I discovered about files with expiration dates. To save money you can take advantage of the 7-day license options and still crack the file with fairuse.

Here's how it worked for me, when the splash screen to play the file comes up after the license was obtained, I didn't press play, just idled on the splash screen, then went to fairuse and it did it. When I first tried it, the unDRM didn't work after I pressed play, only discovered that it did when left on the splash screen where it says you are licensed and can now play it, but don't press play yet.

Also, sometimes to get the license to play the file you paid for you have to be logged into the download webpage on your browser. If the file is already downloaded and it still won't revalidate, click on the webpage to start opening the file, then click on the one you already downloaded, the license should verify this time now that the portal has been opened up, then click to cancel the other window opening the file. Hope this is useful.

mysekurity
19th September 2007, 01:54
Anyone with the new license want to try doing the rollback?

I'll pm the instructions if you need it.

avih
20th September 2007, 00:41
@jetfire4:
Please note that while removing DRM for the sake of watching your movie on different players does fall under fait use conditions, keeping it after it expires doesn't, is illegal and is absolutely discouraged. After it expires you should delete all copies of the unprotected movie. The fact that similar/same technologies are applied for fair use situations is irrelevant. Please keep it on the legal side. Thank you.

capted
22nd September 2007, 21:16
Hi,
I reformatted my laptop and fairuse4wm works fine on the sample file in the downloaded "Cool Stuff" folder.
Mirakagi and the fairuse4wm 1.3fix-2 work perfectly.

The problem is when I install the latest Rhapsody set up, it changes the IBX file in the DRM folder to the latest one by "calling home" to MS. Then nothing works.
I have Rhapsody v4.0 build 1.193 on my desktop which works with fairuse4wm
Rhapsody set up installs build 2.25 which changes the IBX file.
I had a copy of Rhapsody 3.1 setup and it stops and says that I have to install a mandatory update, which of course is the latest version which updates the IBX file.

I have searched the net and can't find an older 4.0x installer.
Does anyone happen to have a Rhapsody 4.0 build 1.193 set up?

Please PM me if you do.
In the mean time if Rhapsody is working for you, don't upgrade.
:thanks:

capted
22nd September 2007, 22:38
Disregard my post above unless you know where to find the requested installer.
Out of frustration, I copied and pasted the "Real" folder and "Rhapsody" folder from my desktop to my laptop.
It worked. I would have bet against it but I was desperate.

Fairuse4wm and Fairuse commander are working like a charm on both computers. :cool:

mysekurity
23rd September 2007, 07:17
capted: Check your PM.


(Post 100!)

capted
23rd September 2007, 22:25
Thanks MYSEKURITY :thanks:

capted
23rd September 2007, 22:27
WARNING

If you are presently able to use fairuse4wm with Rhapsody.....Do not upgrade Rhapsody.

If you upgrade, the installer will not let you proceed until Microsoft installs the latest IBX file in your DRM folder.
If you try to back out, and cancel the upgrade, you will not be able to run your previous version of Rhapsody. You will get the setup page you cancelled out of.

If you reinstall WMP 10 or 11beta 2, it will change your IBX file to a usable one but when you try to start Rhapsody it will tell you that it is installed incorrectly and you have to do it all over again and get the changed IBX file.
I was able to go back with System Restore and paste in an older version of Rhapsody from another computer.

WARNING

dirtminer
25th September 2007, 04:22
Seems there's a mandatory Yahoo update.. Can't defer it like the older ones. Anyone else notice this, and/or know a way NOT to upgrade?

cliffjeff
26th September 2007, 01:10
if you've got a computer with the latest IBX initialization, and no backup of an old one, you're pretty much SOL until the new version is cracked, right?

JeffAlso
26th September 2007, 04:48
if you've got a computer with the latest IBX initialization, and no backup of an old one, you're pretty much SOL until the new version is cracked, right?
Not entirely. If you have XP you can uninstall WMP, install version 10.00.00.3646, delete your DRM directory, and individualize your install. At this point, FU4WM will work again, albeit an older version 10.

I haven't found any way of then upgrading to version 11 without being infected with the new IBX version in the process. If your running Vista, I believe youre pretty much screwed until a someone distributes a fix to the new IBX version.

sectroyer
26th September 2007, 09:13
I will try playing with WMP 11 in the end of the week but for now I have to play a little with making FreeMe2 more stable :)

JackJeruk
26th September 2007, 11:38
HI there!

I've got a strange situation with FU4WM...
I have an WMV file with DRM protection, I have the latest FU4WM - but nothing happened when I tried to remove the protection. Yes, I have the Licence for that file!
I got the message:

1 files converted
0 errors
0 warnings

But the process was just a few seconds long and the file what I found in the destination folder is just 7075 bytes long. I opened with an editor, I think that just the header of the WMV file.
What is the problem?
The original filesize is more than 1 Gib. I cutted the file at 500 MiB, 300 MiB but the results are same like before.

My WMP is v10.00.00.3646 english version
FU4WM version is 1.3 fix-2
Filesize is 1.228.566.391 bytes
Created filesize is 7075 bytes
My IndivBox.key version is 11.0.5497.6285
(How can I change this file to an earlier version?)

Earlier I removed many DRM protection from more than a hundred files (FIFA World Cup HighLights) without any problem.

If you have any hint just tell me, please!

And: I am sorry for my english knowledge!

Cheers! Jack

sectroyer
26th September 2007, 12:47
HI there!

I've got a strange situation with FU4WM...
I have an WMV file with DRM protection, I have the latest FU4WM - but nothing happened when I tried to remove the protection. Yes, I have the Licence for that file!
I got the message:

1 files converted
0 errors
0 warnings

But the process was just a few seconds long and the file what I found in the destination folder is just 7075 bytes long. I opened with an editor, I think that just the header of the WMV file.
What is the problem?
The original filesize is more than 1 Gib. I cutted the file at 500 MiB, 300 MiB but the results are same like before.

My WMP is v10.00.00.3646 english version
FU4WM version is 1.3 fix-2
Filesize is 1.228.566.391 bytes
Created filesize is 7075 bytes
My IndivBox.key version is 11.0.5497.6285
(How can I change this file to an earlier version?)

Earlier I removed many DRM protection from more than a hundred files (FIFA World Cup HighLights) without any problem.

If you have any hint just tell me, please!

And: I am sorry for my english knowledge!

Cheers! Jack

There is some bug with FU4WM. I had similar problems with some files. I don't know why it happens but you may try using FreeMe2.

sectroyer
26th September 2007, 15:36
I would like to ask you to test FreeMe2. It has reached beta stage and now works (at least should) with all kinds of packet types and udrmed files play even in WMP. It is reported to work with both WMP9 and WMP10 and to not fully work with WMP11. I am waiting for your opinions :)

JackJeruk
26th September 2007, 17:54
I would like to ask you to test FreeMe2. It has reached beta stage and now works (at least should) with all kinds of packet types and udrmed files play even in WMP. It is reported to work with both WMP9 and WMP10 and to not fully work with WMP11. I am waiting for your opinions :)

I would like to try it, but where can I download the newest version?

sectroyer
26th September 2007, 19:00
I would like to try it, but where can I download the newest version?
I think you are blind but what the hell :)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130055

JackJeruk
26th September 2007, 19:38
I think you are blind but what the hell :)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130055

Maybe. But I visited the SF site but I can not find the file and the DivShare page is not reached on my provider's network.

sectroyer
26th September 2007, 20:36
Sorry till someone creates more mirrors you are on your own :) As for sf there is no binary there but there is source code. Feel free to compile it your self. On linux you can use attached Makefile :)

KenD00
27th September 2007, 00:29
Feel free to compile it your self.

Regarding the posts in this thread this is an insolvable problem for most of the people here. A binary would help to reach a greater audience.

:rolleyes:

StreamRipper
27th September 2007, 05:08
Install Windows Media Player 10 on Vista 32/64-bit!

1. Boot Into SAFE MODE! (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/boot_failsafe.mspx?mfr=true) - This won't work if you dont!

2. Disable Application Compatibility - This won't work if you dont!

A. Click Start, type "gpedit.msc" in the Start Search bar, press enter.

B. Expand "Administrative Templates", then expand "Windows Components",
find "Application Compatibility" (2nd one under Windows Components).

C. Double click "Remove Program Compatibility Property Page", Select enable,
then click "Next Setting" at the bottom.

D. Repeat Untill all settings are enabled.

3. Download Windows Media Player 10 With auto batch installer! - Created by me! :cool:
A. Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/28846725/321.rar.html

B. Extract the archive and right click on "Install.bat", click edit. Then click
Edit > Replace, Find what: Bobby | Replace with: *Your Vista User Name!*,
click replace all, save and exit.

C. Then run the included batch file "Install.bat"! (This is all automated,
if it askes you if you want to overwrite something, then the file is being used
by another process and cant be accessed, if it does happen, exit, make sure
you are in safe mode and that no other programs are running and run the
Install.bat again)

D. Follow the WMP10 installer instructions. (If it says wmp10 is already installed,
browse to \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\ and run wmplayer.exe, and if
that tells you file xxxx is version 10.xx, expecting version 11.xx, arrange icons by name,
select all the .inf files, right click > install, one wont work, it will tell you and the
rest will continue, after that run \program files (x86)\Windows Media Player\setup_wm.exe)

4. Security component upgrade
A. Visit (IE ONLY): http://services.wmdrm.windowsmedia.com/indivSite/en/indivit.asp

Windows Vista home doesn't have gpedit.msc. Is there any alternative? Does anyone know the registry keys that could be changed instead?

qvr
30th September 2007, 08:58
Hello ;-)

I downloaded FairUse4Wm.exe and mirakagi.exe!
Then I try to get the keys but mirakagi.exe says:

Mirakagi starts, code version 0.9
Found 0 keys in keyring.
It is finished.

I'm having the exact same problem. I'm using Vista x64 and the WMP that comes with that (so 11.something). When I try to run FairUse4WM and hit Recover Keys it says "IBX components do not appear to be present."

Also FreeMe2 doesn't work unfortunately. I double click on it and it just comes up with a command prompt saying "hit enter to acknowledge error."

I recently heard of AnalogWhole but that doesn't work either lol. It won't recognize a recording device, it let's me choose CD Player or Master Volume during setup, but not Stereo Mix, so it only records static noise.

Sigh, any ideas? I just want to play my music from SpiralFrog on my iPod.

grinderxxx
30th September 2007, 21:50
I'm pretty sure I searched through the forum thoroughly, so I hope this doesn't seem redundant...

If I run mirakagi, this is what I get:

Mirakagi starts, code version 0.9
Found 2 keys in keyring.
-----------------
Processing "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\cache\Indiv01.key"
Version: 11.0.6000.7000 ...
XML - Cert: 84 bytes, Key Storage: 1392 bytes.
DLL 1000/a70ea @ ac01000 && a9000/1d8c1 @ aca9000
Exception c0000005 caught during file "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\cache\Indiv01.key".
It is finished.

Then if I run FairUse1.3 Fix 2 I get the "different private key" message. If I try to recover keys again in FairUse, it gets to "please wait" and then freezes.

One other piece of info: I was able to successfully unDRM songs from Ruckus just a week or two ago, but for some reason Ruckus updated its drm a second time within an hour. Regardless, it says it's still only drm version 11.0.5721.5145, security version 2.9.0.1. I deleted the drm folder and re-updated the drm. Same problem. Any help?

mysekurity
30th September 2007, 21:58
grinderxxx: your Mirakagi is telling you that you have ibx key version 11.0.6000.7000, which is currently unsupported, unfortunately. You can try "rolling back" to an earlier version, but otherwise, you're SOL until another update comes along.

sectroyer
30th September 2007, 22:13
grinderxxx: your Mirakagi is telling you that you have ibx key version 11.0.6000.7000, which is currently unsupported, unfortunately. You can try "rolling back" to an earlier version, but otherwise, you're SOL until another update comes along.
You can crack 11.0.6000.7000 using newest version of drmdbg. Thanks to it you will get the SID for any file. That SID can be used to decrypt file using FreeMe2/drm2wmv.

Ajax_Undone
1st October 2007, 02:17
You can crack 11.0.6000.7000 using newest version of drmdbg. Thanks to it you will get the SID for any file. That SID can be used to decrypt file using FreeMe2/drm2wm.


LINK post a LINK

sectroyer
1st October 2007, 02:46
LINK post a LINK
Link is already posted in Getting... thread :)

grinderxxx
1st October 2007, 07:41
Here's a VERY EASY solution to get fairuse working, at least for non-vista users:

(1) Roll back WMP to Version 10 (go to add/remove programs). Get through everything, and restart your computer.

(2) This is the key step that makes rolling back actually work. Go to add/remove programs again and UNINSTALL WINDOWS MEDIA RUNTIME 11. This sneaky bitch is what lingers after the previous uninstall and makes your life suck.

(3) Delete the DRM folder.

(4) Run your media download program and have fun with FairUse again!

mysekurity
1st October 2007, 22:32
The "Getting..." thread is here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=130166

I tried checking out that Japanese website that has something to do with drmdbg, but I must be a little rusty in my Japanese, as I had no idea what was being said (and Google proved quite unhelpful).

connormill
8th October 2007, 17:03
Hi
I was wandering if anyone could PM me a link to the fairuse commander files and in return I will upload them to heaps of sites for others to down load
cheers
connor

motherfo
9th October 2007, 08:13
any relative estimate to getting a working version for vista for those of us that have the latest ibx?

I've got a yahoo subscription.

I might just use my XP laptop for my music cracking for the moment otherwise.

avih
9th October 2007, 10:16
any relative estimate to getting a working version for vista for those of us that have the latest ibx?

I've got a yahoo subscription.

I might just use my XP laptop for my music cracking for the moment otherwise.

Read this:
@jetfire4:
Please note that while removing DRM for the sake of watching your movie on different players does fall under fait use conditions, keeping it after it expires doesn't, is illegal and is absolutely discouraged. After it expires you should delete all copies of the unprotected movie. The fact that similar/same technologies are applied for fair use situations is irrelevant. Please keep it on the legal side. Thank you.

You're walking on a thin line here gents. Take notice.