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me7
9th January 2009, 16:05
Is it possible to use a dts file as input without decoding it to multiple wav files first?

Boulder
9th January 2009, 16:19
eac3to should help you out.

wisodev
9th January 2009, 18:54
Is it possible to use a dts file as input without decoding it to multiple wav files first?

WAV to AC3 Encoder version 3.0 supports Avisynth scripts as input so you can decode dts using Avisynth without decoding to wav files first.

madshi
25th January 2009, 09:59
Does anybody (maybe Justin?) happen to know the "official" way on how a discrete 6.1 source should be mixed/prepared for AC3 EX encoding?

As far as I understand, Dolby always wants a 90° shift in the surround channels. But what about the back center? I guess it should be lowered in volume by 3db, right? But should it also be phase shifted by 90° or by something else?

Thanks!!

carlmart
16th February 2009, 19:52
I need to convert a DTS file to AC3. A tutorial I find needs Aften to work with Foobar 2000.

Where and how should install Aften within Foobar so that it recognizes it? There's an Aften directory I put within Foobar, but it doesn't seem to see it.

Boulder
16th February 2009, 20:10
If you can't get it to work, you could use eac3to for easier processing, see the appropriate thread in this forum.

carlmart
16th February 2009, 20:45
If you can't get it to work, you could use eac3to for easier processing, see the appropriate thread in this forum.

Can it convert DTS to AC3 or it works along with Foobar or any other?

tebasuna51
16th February 2009, 21:32
I need to convert a DTS file to AC3. A tutorial I find needs Aften to work with Foobar 2000.

Where and how should install Aften within Foobar so that it recognizes it? There's an Aften directory I put within Foobar, but it doesn't seem to see it.

You can put Aften.exe anywhere you like.
After you need configure Aften in Foobar, File -> Preferences -> Converter -> Add New, and fill this screen:

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4668/vifooaftenpl1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Edit: or other parameters, only -readtoeof 1 is recommended always

sneaker_ger
17th February 2009, 22:40
I have a problem opening avs files in WavToAC3Encode 3.0: it just throws an error message at me: "failed to initialize avisynth". Then the program crashes. This happens with all avs files and the files are working fine in other apps. What can I do?
Avisynth 2.5.8 and Windows XP SP3

wisodev
18th February 2009, 06:04
I have a problem opening avs files in WavToAC3Encode 3.0: it just throws an error message at me: "failed to initialize avisynth". Then the program crashes. This happens with all avs files and the files are working fine in other apps. What can I do?
Avisynth 2.5.8 and Windows XP SP3

Try Avisynth version 2.5.7 because version 2.5.8 had some changes that cause my program to crash.

sneaker_ger
18th February 2009, 13:21
Ok, thanks. Have you fixed the problems for your next release? Don't really feel like downgrading right now.

wisodev
19th February 2009, 19:46
Ok, thanks. Have you fixed the problems for your next release? Don't really feel like downgrading right now.

Not planned any time soon.

zn
9th April 2009, 12:00
"WAV to AC3 Encoder" was removed from Google Code?

http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/

wisodev
11th July 2009, 14:08
"WAV to AC3 Encoder" was removed from Google Code?

http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/

WAV to AC3 Encoder is back at Google Code.

New version 4.0 was released today.

Downloads:
http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-4.0.exe
http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-4.0.zip

Screenshots:
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/3323/engineswnd.th.png (http://img528.imageshack.us/i/engineswnd.png/)
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9595/mainwnd.th.png (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/mainwnd.png/)
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6342/muxwnd.th.png (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/muxwnd.png/)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8781/workwnd.th.png (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/workwnd.png/)

tebasuna51
11th July 2009, 22:50
Thanks wisodev

MrVideo
12th July 2009, 07:12
I've not read all of the pages of this thread, as it would take way too long.

I've looked at the command line options, but do not see anything that would allow 6 mono WAV files to AC3 encoding. Obviously it is capable of doing that, since the wave to ac3 encoder GUI front end can set up Aften for AC3 encoding of mono wave files.

Just what are the magic command line options to aften to get it to use 6 mono wave files and map those files for the correct channel location?

Thanks.

tebasuna51
12th July 2009, 10:06
Just what are the magic command line options to aften to get it to use 6 mono wave files and map those files for the correct channel location?
From aften -longhelp
[-ch_X file] Add a mono file to the input list as the channel specified
These parameters are used to specify multiple mono
source files instead of a single multi-channel source
file. Only valid AC-3 combinations are allowed. The
acmod, lfe, chconfig, and chmap parameters are all
ignored if multi-mono inputs are used.
ch_fl = Front Left
ch_fc = Front Center
ch_fr = Front Right
ch_sl = Surround Left
ch_s = Surround
ch_sr = Surround Right
ch_m1 = Dual Mono Channel 1
ch_m2 = Dual Mono Channel 2
ch_lfe = LFE
Here is the situation. I have a transport stream that has three MPEG-2 audio streams that comprise the 6 channels for AC3 encoding. They map as follows:

1) L/R
2) C/LFE
3) LS/RS

How do I tell eac3to to use those three dual channel streams as input to aften AC3 encoding?

If you have AviSynth with NicAudio.dll plugin you can use an avs file like this for input to EncWavToAc3 (Aften GUI):

fr = NicMPG123Source("File_lr.mp2")
cl = NicMPG123Source("File_cl.mp2")
su = NicMPG123Source("File_su.mp2")
mergechannels(fr,cl,su)

MrVideo
12th July 2009, 11:39
From aften -longhelp
[-ch_X file] Add a mono file to the input list as the channel specified
These parameters are used to specify multiple mono
source files instead of a single multi-channel source
file. Only valid AC-3 combinations are allowed. The
acmod, lfe, chconfig, and chmap parameters are all
ignored if multi-mono inputs are used.
ch_fl = Front Left
ch_fc = Front Center
ch_fr = Front Right
ch_sl = Surround Left
ch_s = Surround
ch_sr = Surround Right
ch_m1 = Dual Mono Channel 1
ch_m2 = Dual Mono Channel 2
ch_lfe = LFE

I just placed the wisodev built SSE3 x86 version on my system and ran the -longhelp option and the -ch_X option does not exist.

tebasuna51
12th July 2009, 13:06
I just placed the wisodev built SSE3 x86 version on my system and ran the -longhelp option and the -ch_X option does not exist.
Also with short help (SSE3 x86 version r843):
D:\Internet>aften -h

Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN
(c) 2006-2007 Justin Ruggles, Prakash Punnoor, et al.

usage: aften [options] <input.wav> <output.ac3>
options:
...
[-ch_X file] Add a mono file to the input list as the channel specified
ch_fl = Front Left
ch_fc = Front Center
ch_fr = Front Right
ch_sl = Surround Left
ch_s = Surround
ch_sr = Surround Right
ch_m1 = Dual Mono Channel 1
ch_m2 = Dual Mono Channel 2
ch_lfe = LFE

raquete
12th July 2009, 15:00
wisodev,

in win2000 is not working, the program don't open and show advice about 'kernell32.dll".

versions 2.3 or older are still working very fine, can you help please with version 4.0?

thanks!

MrVideo
12th July 2009, 20:05
Aften: A/52 audio encoder
Version SVN

Therein lies the potential problem. The -ch_X option must be new to the SVN development tree, as it is not in the 0.0.8 release that I have.

And no, I cannot compile. I do enough Unix compiling ar work, that I just want to run programs at home.

Is there a way to get the binary of the aften version that does support -ch_X?

wisodev
12th July 2009, 20:40
wisodev,

in win2000 is not working, the program don't open and show advice about 'kernell32.dll".

versions 2.3 or older are still working very fine, can you help please with version 4.0?

thanks!

Probably because I'm using the new Visual Studio 2010 to build my app and it might happen that compatibility with windows 2k was broken.

I'm running it without a problems under Windows XP SP3 and Windows 7 RC.

tebasuna51
12th July 2009, 21:23
Therein lies the potential problem. The -ch_X option must be new to the SVN development tree, as it is not in the 0.0.8 release that I have.

Multiple input file support is quite old (30th November 2007):
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1071074#post1071074

Is there a way to get the binary of the aften version that does support -ch_X?
You have the last wisodev versions here:
http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/downloads/list

MrVideo
12th July 2009, 21:37
Multiple input file support is quite old (30th November 2007):

Ah, which is after the 0.0.8 release.

You have the last wisodev versions here:

The link I found only pointed to the released versions. Maybe that link should be placed into the sticky post #1 and marked as development versions.

I think I ran across that link, but thought it was only for wisodev's GUI program, not also aften itself.

Thanks, though. I installed it and now the option does indeed show up.

raquete
13th July 2009, 05:32
WAV to AC3 Encoder version 3.0 supports Avisynth scripts as input so you can decode dts using Avisynth without decoding to wav files first.

i have all WAV to AC3 Encoder versions from 0.1 to the last new 4.0, less 3.0....don't know why i don't got before, i don't saw.:stupid:
XP is too heavy to run in my old pc.
as 4.0 don't work in win2000, do you still have the 3.0 version somewhere to download ?

thank you!

wisodev
13th July 2009, 05:38
i have all WAV to AC3 Encoder versions from 0.1 to the last new 4.0, less 3.0....don't know why i don't got before, i don't saw.:stupid:
XP is too heavy to run in my old pc.
as 4.0 don't work in win2000, do you still have the 3.0 version somewhere to download ?

thank you!

http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-3.0-Win32-bin.zip

raquete
13th July 2009, 05:47
wisodev, you're not only a great developer, you're a fast gentleman too! :)

:thanks: so much, 3.0 is working perfectly in win2000!

wisodev
13th July 2009, 20:08
wisodev,

in win2000 is not working, the program don't open and show advice about 'kernell32.dll".

versions 2.3 or older are still working very fine, can you help please with version 4.0?

thanks!

Version 4.1 was released and I've fixed compatibility issue with Windows 2000.

Downloads:
http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-4.1.exe
http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-4.1.zip

raquete
14th July 2009, 00:27
Version 4.1 was released and I've fixed compatibility issue with Windows 2000.

Downloads:
http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-4.1.exe
http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-4.1.zip

:helpful: thanks again wisodev, you're very nice as always!
new version working in win2k. :thanks:

raquete
2nd August 2009, 14:22
wisodev,
EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 crash when i hit "encode".
version 3.0 with Aften R832 works fine.

can be the Aften R843 version? :confused:

sneaker_ger
2nd August 2009, 14:47
Version 4.1 still crashes shortly after dropping an AviSynth script: "Failed to initialize AviSynth". I'm on Windows XP SP3 and AviSynth 2.5.8.

wisodev
2nd August 2009, 15:31
Version 4.1 still crashes shortly after dropping an AviSynth script: "Failed to initialize AviSynth". I'm on Windows XP SP3 and AviSynth 2.5.8.

WAV to AC3 Encoder does not work correctly with AviSynth version 2.5.8, but it should work with version 2.5.7 or below.

wisodev
2nd August 2009, 15:32
wisodev,
EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 crash when i hit "encode".
version 3.0 with Aften R832 works fine.

can be the Aften R843 version? :confused:

Do you have log file from EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 ?

raquete
2nd August 2009, 16:00
wisodev,
only a "advice" with (from portuguese to english):
"unknow software exception (0xc000001d) in 0x0107868c
Click OK to close the program
Click Cancel to depurate the program"

if i click OK close the program, clicking Cancel give advice telling that will create the error log but i can't find this log.
searching the last files modified in the pc could not find too.

what is the complete name of the log file?

wisodev
2nd August 2009, 17:46
wisodev,
only a "advice" with (from portuguese to english):
"unknow software exception (0xc000001d) in 0x0107868c
Click OK to close the program
Click Cancel to depurate the program"

if i click OK close the program, clicking Cancel give advice telling that will create the error log but i can't find this log.
searching the last files modified in the pc could not find too.

what is the complete name of the log file?

In program folder you should find file named "EncWAVtoAC3.log"

raquete
2nd August 2009, 20:23
In program folder you should find file named "EncWAVtoAC3.log"
the path to the log file was adjusted to the folder of source files to encode.
was not found in the path adjusted or in the EncWAVtoAC3 folder.(searching in all hds, not found) :(

edit: the program crash right after hit "encode" and don't create log i think.

raquete
20th August 2009, 21:03
loading 24b/96K files in EncWAVtoAC3 and adjusting "Sample rate" to 96K i encoded and got noises(hiss) result and have more than double size comparing when i feed with 24b/48k.

have a way to feed with 24b/96K and get 24b/48K ?

tebasuna51
20th August 2009, 23:39
loading 24b/96K files in EncWAVtoAC3 and adjusting "Sample rate" to 96K i encoded and got noises(hiss) result and have more than double size comparing when i feed with 24b/48k.

have a way to feed with 24b/96K and get 24b/48K ?
Standard Ac3 don't support 96KHz, first you need to resample to 48KHz.

You can use BeHappy, eac3to, sox|aften, ...

raquete
20th August 2009, 23:59
Standard Ac3 don't support 96KHz, first you need to resample to 48KHz.

You can use BeHappy, eac3to, sox|aften, ...

yes, i understand and i did bad question.
i mean: i want to load 24/96 waves in EncWAVtoAC3 and get 24/48 AC3.
is possible without downsample the waves first?

tebasuna51
21st August 2009, 10:58
i mean: i want to load 24/96 waves in EncWAVtoAC3 and get 24/48 AC3.
is possible without downsample the waves first?
I never tried, but you have the proof. Seems don't work.

But EncWavToAc3 accept .avs files you can use the ssrc(48000) from AviSynth.

raquete
21st August 2009, 11:55
I never tried, but you have the proof. Seems don't work.

But EncWavToAc3 accept .avs files you can use the ssrc(48000) from AviSynth.

it's a great surprise, living and learning.

encoding DTS from 24/96 waves with DTS Pro Encoder:
(from LeeAudBi logs)
" Extension Audio Descr. Flag 2 : Frequency Extension (X96k)
Extended Coding Flag 1 : Yes"
sounds a little better than with 24/48 waves using surcode:
"Extension Audio Descr. Flag 0 : Channel Extension (XCh)
Extended Coding Flag 0 : Not"

now is not needed to downsample the waves to encode AC3, the .avs is the solution, will be faster, use less hd space, etc.

thank you very much!

raquete
26th August 2009, 12:06
wisodev,
EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 crash when i hit "encode".
version 3.0 with Aften R832 works fine.

can be the Aften R843 version? :confused:

wisodev

after invert all libaftendll_x86(library) between EncWAVtoAC3-3.0 and EncWAVtoAC3-4.1, 3.0 crash and 4.1 now is running fine with Aften R832.
then the "problem" must be in Aften R843 version!

(why i don't did it before?!? )

EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 running with Aften R832
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3367/ewtac341.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3367/ewtac341.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/ewtac341.jpg/)

cheers! :)

wisodev
28th August 2009, 06:23
wisodev

after invert all libaftendll_x86(library) between EncWAVtoAC3-3.0 and EncWAVtoAC3-4.1, 3.0 crash and 4.1 now is running fine with Aften R832.
then the "problem" must be in Aften R843 version!

(why i don't did it before?!? )

EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 running with Aften R832
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3367/ewtac341.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3367/ewtac341.th.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/i/ewtac341.jpg/)

cheers! :)

Looks like new Aften build has problem with older CPUs (as I see on screenshot you have some older CPU). Probably I have turned by mistake some optimizations for Aften builds as I am using new version of Intel C++ compiler and Intel has made plenty of changes in compiler optimization options.

raquete
28th August 2009, 13:02
wisodev, you're right.
i'm using duron 1.8 :o ...but i have athlon XP2000+ too :p
i'm doing one championship to test what is worse...lol
in the end both are too old and slow. :scared:

OAKside
8th September 2009, 19:21
wisodev, you're right.
i'm using duron 1.8 :o ...but i have athlon XP2000+ too :p
i'm doing one championship to test what is worse...lol
in the end both are too old and slow. :scared:
I also noticed erratic behavior from R843 (SSE3). (CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4200, circa 2004.) I contacted raquete for R832 (thanks!),
since I couldn't seem to find downloads of Aften builds very easily, esp. the full Windows binaries packages.

Any chance of hosting an older Aften build (perhaps R832 x86 Binaries) at the WAV to AC3 Encoder Google Code downloads (http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/downloads/list) page? :)

Midzuki
8th September 2009, 20:56
OAKside wrote:
I contacted raquete for R832 (thanks!),
since I couldn't seem to find downloads of Aften builds very easily, esp. the full Windows binaries packages.

Any chance of hosting an older Aften build (perhaps R832 x86 Binaries) at the WAV to AC3 Encoder Google Code downloads page?

@ http://ftp.heanet.ie/disk1/sourceforge/w/project/wi/win32builds/ ,

one can find "aften -r762" and older builds, but not the -r832 one. :(
It would be interesting to know why it was (apparently at least) "wiped out of the map". :confused:

wisodev
9th September 2009, 05:02
I also noticed erratic behavior from R843 (SSE3). (CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4200, circa 2004.) I contacted raquete for R832 (thanks!),
since I couldn't seem to find downloads of Aften builds very easily, esp. the full Windows binaries packages.

Any chance of hosting an older Aften build (perhaps R832 x86 Binaries) at the WAV to AC3 Encoder Google Code downloads (http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/downloads/list) page? :)

OAKside wrote:


@ http://ftp.heanet.ie/disk1/sourceforge/w/project/wi/win32builds/ ,

one can find "aften -r762" and older builds, but not the -r832 one. :(
It would be interesting to know why it was (apparently at least) "wiped out of the map". :confused:

Please just download version 3.0 of WAV to AC3 Encoder and copy included Aften R832 .dll's to new version of program.

Download link: http://wavtoac3encoder.googlecode.com/files/EncWAVtoAC3-3.0-Win32-bin.zip

PS. If you need this old release I have re-uploaded it to project Download page (http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/downloads/list?can=4&q=&colspec=Filename+Summary+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount), but marked downloads as 'Deprecated'.

OAKside
9th September 2009, 06:28
PS. If you need this old release I have re-uploaded it to project Download page (http://code.google.com/p/wavtoac3encoder/downloads/list?can=4&q=&colspec=Filename+Summary+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount), but marked downloads as 'Deprecated'.Perfect, I appreciate it wisodev. :thanks:

raquete
9th September 2009, 13:20
OAKside,
what i upload for you was EncWAVtoAC3-4.1 with Aften R832 and works perfectly, right? (or not? )

now is ok as wisodev reupload "everything" but i'm curious about what i send for you.

wisodev
when and if you have time, can you do a "how to" explaining each parameter of advanced mode/options and advanced options in EncWAVtoAC3?
(for boreds users like me :p)
thanks.

tebasuna51
9th September 2009, 13:49
@raquete
First read the help in Aften:

aften -longhelp

and after ask your specific questions, because explain all the options is very hard.

Edit:
Full a52 document:
http://www.atsc.org/standards/a_52b.pdf