New Version of Avi.net

[ricardo.santos]

All tests done in "2 pass mode"

My impressions so far with RC2:

1- encoding times are "up" on a 90min movie between 15 and 18min without comptest, when using comptest i didnt encode a full dvd but on a 5 minute clip it took more 4 minutes than it takes without comptest enabled.

2- when using bitrates around 1200/1300 it tells me that pictutre quality is extremely low, quality will be impaired.

3- havent tryed mobile.Net and index.Net but on paper index.Net seems like a nice addition.

4- at the bitrates i usually use to me the output without enabling CP looks better.

5- since RC1 when i try to play videos that werent encoded with matrices in WMP the picture freezes, plays for a split second and then freezes again and so on(stutter), VLC plays it fine.

[weaver4]

C'mon lads, you've taken part in this thread, I thought you'd know about the new options as much as anyone. :D

There's two little new options, the sharp/smooth filter option, that should be obvious, it slightly sharps or smoothes the picture. The only other things is the comptest, 'Advanced Analysis'.

'Advanced Analysis' when enabled, will run the comptest and use more advanced settings and CQM's for XviD.

The reason that I ask is that AutoGK changed the Matrix they were using and for single-pass encodes the file sizes went up significantly. So I wanted to know if any of the changes that you made would have this impact.

[iNFO-DVD]

No matrices are used in single pass mode.

[iNFO-DVD]

1- encoding times are "up" on a 90min movie between 15 and 18min without comptestCan't understand why that happens, without comptest, everything is as it were with v2.1.8.4.

when using comptest i didnt encode a full dvd but on a 5 minute clip it took more 4 minutes than it takes without comptest enabled.Yes, encodes will take longer due to more time consuming settings.

2- when using bitrates around 1200/1300 it tells me that pictutre quality is extremely low, quality will be impaired.Yes that could be perfectly normal, all depends on source, you may use 900 bitrate on something and it will say it's too high.

4- at the bitrates i usually use to me the output without enabling CP looks better.Don't know why, you're the only one I've heard off that seems to say this. What version of XviD are you using?

5- since RC1 when i try to play videos that werent encoded with matrices in WMP the picture freezes, plays for a split second and then freezes again and so on(stutter), VLC plays it fine.Again, see answer to number 1.

[ricardo.santos]

Yes that could be perfectly normal, all depends on source, you may use 900 bitrate on something and it will say it's too high.


yes, i´m aware of that, but for this source 640.275 its enough its actually more than needed. i mainly convert episodivs dvds, stargate, galatica, the office uk, red dwarf uk.

Im using XviD-1.1.0-30122005 _Final Release_

[tyee]

Just found avi.NET and installed it and all the required files -AVISynth v2.56a, VobSub v2.23, XviD v1.1.0 using the support package. I installed ver. 2 of the .net framework (maybe this is my problem.)

After 2 encodes my resultant .avi file is tiny. Here is the result of encoding a 1GB .vob I had on my HD --


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The above continued. I had to cut it off because it's over the message size limit in this forum.

This file is 17 KBytes. Anyone got a clue to what's wrong?

I can't copy and paste the log into this message but it all looks like no errors occurred!!

tyee

PS Here's my log --

avi.NET v2.1.8.4
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2798MHz)

IN : E:\VTS_03_1.VOB
OUT: E:\VTS_03_1.avi

ORIGINAL MPEG FILE
MPEG TYPE : 2
RESOLUTION : 720x480
ASPECT RATIO: 16:9
FIELD ORDER : TFF

CONVERTED AVI FILE
RESOLUTION : 640x352
DURATION : 0:32:00
FPS : 23.976
CODEC : XVID
PASSES : 1
METHOD : QUALITY BASED
QUANT : 2.5
AUDIO : AC3
SUBTITLES : NONE

SELECTED OPTIONS
DE-INTERLACE: NO
DE-GRAINED : NO
BRIGHTER : NO
HIGHER CROP : NO

TIME TAKEN [AUDIO]: N/A
TIME TAKEN [VIDEO]: 00:23:44
ENCODE RATE 1/1 : 21 FPS

TIME TAKEN [TOTAL]: 00:23:45


Update -- Seems the vob file I used didn't have an audio track! I guess avi.NET must have audio to mux or things go wrong?? Anyway tried it again with an ac3 .vob and it worked fine, except I clicked use XVID and the output file is DIVX! I'm not sure why??

[iNFO-DVD]

Update -- Seems the vob file I used didn't have an audio track! I guess avi.NET must have audio to mux or things go wrong??No, avi.NET will work fine without audio. The thing is, it thinks there's audio in there which means DGIndex extracted an AC3 track from the VOB. Looking at your file: 'E:\VTS_03_1.VOB' makes me think it may be because you ripped in file mode? If so, strange things can happen, for conversion you need to ideally rip the PGC.

except I clicked use XVID and the output file is DIVX! I'm not sure why??Because it's not, believe me, it's XVID. Answered in an earlier post.

[iNFO-DVD]

yes, i´m aware of that, but for this source 640.275 its enough its actually more than needed. i mainly convert episodivs dvds, stargate, galatica, the office uk, red dwarf uk. Im usingYou mean 272. If it's very difficult to compress the bitrate may NOT be all that's needed.

[tyee]

OK. Sounds good to me but then how do I get rid of the DIVX logo in the bottom right corner?

tyee

[ricardo.santos]

You mean 272.

yes.

Honestly, im getting confused with all this CP ON/OFF, i usually use a bitrate between 1200/1300 and picutr looks brilliant, when i enabled CP it displayed that message.

"All i know" is that since i started to test CP on avi.Net im looking at Xvid in a different(better) way :)

[iNFO-DVD]

Honestly, im getting confused with all this CP ON/OFFThere's really no need. It is simple. If 'Advanced Analysis' is NOT selected then everything is as it were in earlier versions of avi.NET. If 'Advanced Analysis' is selected, then a comptest is performed and the proceeding encode (2 pass) will use more intense/higher/slower codec settings.

i usually use a bitrate between 1200/1300 and picutr looks brilliantThen that is all that matters. One word concerning bitrate, saying a certain bitrate is good is only relevant to a particular source. It's impossible to say 1200 bitrate is always good. 1200 may be excellent for 640x272 but could well be very poor for a 4:3 encode. On top of all that, different sources compress differently, hence the comptest. If it gives you a too low warning then I'd believe it and increase the size, or lower the resolution.

"All i know" is that since i started to test CP on avi.Net im looking at Xvid in a different(better) way :)Yes there's not much I can do with the DivX codec when it comes to changing options when compared to XviD. XviD allows me to use CQM's and a mass of options.

[Sharktooth]

OK. Sounds good to me but then how do I get rid of the DIVX logo in the bottom right corner?

tyee
Disable it in the divx decoder.

[tyee]

Sharktooth
Yes. thanks. I did disable it in the divx decoder. I also changed the 4cc code to xvid and that worked too.

tyee

[weaver4]

I just got 2.2.0.0. I noticed in the documentation that a good compressibility value should be between 50% and 60% for ideal. But where do you see these values? I see a QF factor and AR factor but nothing called a compressibility value.

[edit] I see that you have to run the encoding to get the values. I thought the test was done after the indexing but before you started to encode.

[Nrmf]

Does Mobile.Net make the audio into a mp3 as 1 channel or i this a bug i can use the file in avi.net as 2 channel mp3 but mobile tells me 1 channel.

[iNFO-DVD]

Does Mobile.Net make the audio into a mp3 as 1 channel or i this a bug i can use the file in avi.net as 2 channel mp3 but mobile tells me 1 channel.Yes, 1 channel, smartphones and PPC's are mono usually. If you think I should add this as an option, and why, then I will.

[Nrmf]

no you dont have to add i just thought for some reason ppc was stereo, no sense in working on that when you have class in front of you.........wooooooooooooohooooooooooo

[weaver4]

Avi.net does Rock, I use it all the time.

If one of your friends gave you a "legal" DVD to copy they might say: "Can you copy this onto one single CD" or "Can you copy this , I want a very good copy, I don't really care about size". They would not say "Can you copy this using a compressibility factor or 55%"

I would like a program (in the future) that you:
-> Select the source.
-> Select the size of the result, if you selected "Don't Care" it
-> Gives you a choice of the quality that you want: Fair, Good, Very Good, Excellent.
-> Set audio quality: good, very good, original.
-> Then you hit go.

The program would then decode run a compressibility test and then determine how to meet your criteria; and then do it automatically.

Some programs are close, avi.net and autogk to be sure, but they are not there yet. They require the user to know quantizers, quality factors, bits/second, compressibility factors and such. Not very Grandmother friendly; but avi.net is the closest.

[Jacquers]

index.NET is proving to be really useful... now if it could also add the jobs to avi.NET that would really be a timesaver. Maybe it would be possible to add jobs to avi.NET's job queue that use single pass q-based, turning avi.NET into a batch converter?

[Nrmf]

will avinet use the new divx codec that was just released.

[Nrmf]

dosent look like it will i get an error message. look slike i have to go back a divx version.

[Nrmf]

just rebuilt my system and now i get errors when trying to bring a dvd rip into the latest version, is there a error log someone i can post for help

[Nrmf]

ok seems after i did i fresh install of win xp pro 64 the latest version wont run on my pc i nned to find a place to download the version before 2.0 so if anyone has a linkplease let me know.

[Nrmf]

get nothing but errors now with latest version install on reformated system used to work on xp 64 not anymore so i wonder if an older version needs to be installed then the latest or its a codec problem anyone alive in this thread

[Warrex]

Hi,

just decided to give Avi.net another try (great work on including Vobsub, index.net). I realize that it is meant to be a one click tool but nevertheless here are my 2 cents about it (just ignore me if the things have been posted before but add me to the list of people asking for them):

1. It's good to know that Avi.net produces Home Theatre compatible output. Not being able to tweak codec settings is annoying nevertheless. Advanced Analysis does not help much in this respect. Probably even some newbies would like to test new DivX features...

2. It would be cool if one could disable autocroping (e.g. cropping at all). I would have less (no) issues with subtitles then (e.g. overlapping with english subtiles that were burnt into the video stream of the original DVD).

3. I'd really like to use my own deinterlacer/sharpener/smoother This shouldn't be difficult to include. Renaming "Decomb Deinterlacing Filter" to "Deinterlacing Filter" and adding a config file to the avi.net directory should do. No newbie would ever see that but more advanced users could use their prefered filters of these catagories (like TDeint).

[MarkCurly]

...Not being able to tweak codec settings is annoying nevertheless...It would be cool if one could disable autocroping...I'd really like to use my own deinterlacer/sharpener/smoother.
Have you tried StaxRip?

It does not provide any automated suggestion for deinterlacing, but aside from that does everything you suggest (and everything I need). It is very configurable.

[Warrex]

Have you tried StaxRip?

:) That's what I have been using since its early stages when I needed a replacement for Gordian Knot (NOT Auto Gordian Knot). Right now I am trying to keep it up to date but DivX 6.4 does not work correctly anymore and StaxRips developer has not shown up for quite some time.

For my needs DrDivx 2.0., Mpegmediator, Auto Gordian Knot and MeGui are pretty useless. It's especially sad that DrDivx 2.0 is so limited feature wise. I still hope that there will be more pro user oriented tools which are still easy to use.

I'd love to see a tool with the things that make StaxRip so great like:


Customizability (manual integration of avisynth filters, etc.)
Possibilities for user predefined automation (like through StaxRips template projects, batch processing, etc.)
Possibility to cut and crop the video via a GUI (very important for my VCR captures)
Possibility to integrate newer versions of tools (I can see for myself if they still work)


However I think there has been room for improvement in StaxRip:


More streamlined interface: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=813174#post813174
Concerning batch processing (especially adding while encoding): http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=816232#post816232
Better integration of Vobsub (well like in Avi.net :) )

One click tools are great but I guess many Doom9.net readers just need more features especially when using Avisynth/VirtualdubMod manually is not an option (too time consuming).

I as already said, I know that Avi.net is a one click tool and that's fine. Still it currently has the most potential to satisfy my (basic) needs. That's why I was proposing those rather mild changes.

[Nrmf]

man i need some bad help, cant get avi.net to work worth anything

[iNFO-DVD]

with latest version install on reformated system used to work on xp 64 not anymore so i wonder if an older version needs to be installed then the latest or its a codec problem anyone alive in this threadI'm amazed it ever did work.....

avi.NET is NOT for XP64.

[weaver4]

INFO-DVD: How is college?

[Nrmf]

yes it used to work but how on earth do i fix the error message i am getting. send help please. what am i overlooking

[Nrmf]

2.1.70 is the only old version i have and it runs fine....what do i need to fix version 2

[Nrmf]

ok i have discovered this when i use index.net on a pc at my office and then got o to mobile.net i dont get any seeks or fast forward options on my ipaq hand held. sure could use some help with my error message from previous post.

[Nrmf]

well dont know what i did but yes it does run in winxp pro 64 and in win vista 32 and 64 versions i get the plugin error but after installing files it works and works well i might add.

[salman1]

i want to make 1400 or 2 cd but when press start it's say GO BACK AND CLIck return what that mean?

i want to use Lanzos for resize for xvid could u do that also like i want to add filter by myself can u also do that and can this encode avs script to avi. i am sorry i don't speak much english

thx a lot

also provide me latest version by direct download plz this what i m using now

http://maxupload.com/img/6FC3682F.jpg