MeGUI Custom x264/AVC video profiles.

[Inventive Software]

To further my question about PSP SnL profiles, what's recommended for the audio? LC or HE? Max bitrate?

[Eretria-chan]

I've tried messing around with trying to re-encode some H264 clips for my Archos 605, but it does not want to work!
I used the PD-Archos profile to encode but the player doesn't want to play it nevertheless.
Also tried Ranguvar's modified profile:
Just did a LOT of testing with the Archos 605, and found its profile can be enhanced.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1079602#post1079602

Enjoy :)

But it doesn't work either.
All I get is a corrupted file (as the player says, though it works 100% fine on the PC).
Anyone has any ideas why this isn't working? I have the latest firmware and the podcast plugin.

It can play some H264 clips, but not the re-encoded ones I've made from unsupported video clips I have.
Suggestions or tips would be extremely appreciated.

UPDATE:
Apparently today, the portable seems to want to play those files encoded with the profile. Weird.

UPDATE2:
Grrr! It works fine on a 1 minute clip, but not the full 24 minutes!
So what's going wrong? I just don't understand.

[Poopoo]

Does anyone know what the perfect Xvid quality encode settings are, aiming at 700MB, and keeping the output standalone compatible ?

[steveski]

Poopoo, don't use GMC or QPel.
Do a 2 pass encode, select interlacing if you haven't de-interlaced your content. If you de-interlace then use yadif.dll in your avs script and put mode=1 as a parameter which will double the framerate. Frame rate doubling has a pretty high cpu hit though but the motion is really smooth.
Also use Adaptive Quantization, Advanced Simple @ Level 5 profile and MPEG quantization (not sure if h263 is better or not).

With those settings I get nice quality compatible video and people rave about the quality. Although I personally think QPel makes it look far less pixelated.
I'm personally favouring x264 these days though as the quality is outstanding.

[Poopoo]

Thanks steveski ! :thanks:

[Ranguvar]

I've tried messing around with trying to re-encode some H264 clips for my Archos 605, but it does not want to work!
I used the PD-Archos profile to encode but the player doesn't want to play it nevertheless.
Also tried Ranguvar's modified profile:


But it doesn't work either.
All I get is a corrupted file (as the player says, though it works 100% fine on the PC).
Anyone has any ideas why this isn't working? I have the latest firmware and the podcast plugin.

It can play some H264 clips, but not the re-encoded ones I've made from unsupported video clips I have.
Suggestions or tips would be extremely appreciated.

UPDATE:
Apparently today, the portable seems to want to play those files encoded with the profile. Weird.

UPDATE2:
Grrr! It works fine on a 1 minute clip, but not the full 24 minutes!
So what's going wrong? I just don't understand.
Wow... no idea...

Mine plays everything fine.

What resolution are you using? Bitrate? Sound?

To limit # of variables, use 128kb/s CBR AAC-LC stereo audio, basic mp4box muxing, and x264 from CLI or MeGUI.

[Ranguvar]

Poopoo, don't use GMC or QPel.
Do a 2 pass encode, select interlacing if you haven't de-interlaced your content. If you de-interlace then use yadif.dll in your avs script and put mode=1 as a parameter which will double the framerate. Frame rate doubling has a pretty high cpu hit though but the motion is really smooth.
Also use Adaptive Quantization, Advanced Simple @ Level 5 profile and MPEG quantization (not sure if h263 is better or not).

With those settings I get nice quality compatible video and people rave about the quality. Although I personally think QPel makes it look far less pixelated.
I'm personally favouring x264 these days though as the quality is outstanding.

MPEG preserves more detail, so it's better for encoding from anything with a lot of small detail (DVDs, not bad encodes and anime/cartoons) as long as you have at least ~1300kb/s bitrate. Less than that and H.263 is better, and it almost always is with flatter sources. H.263 is also slightly faster.

I would definitely not use AQ yet though. Well actually, I need to do a test. Just heard bad things about Xvid's AQ.

I agree about GMC/QPel. Quality payoff is not worth the fact that most portables and standalones cannot deal with those.

[Eretria-chan]

What resolution are you using?
It's 704 x 396, just below DVD resolution.

Bitrate?
300-500 kbps I think I've done tests with, but it doesn't seem to work. I don't know if I've been consistent about it, however.

Sound?
32 kbps HE-AAC + PS.
But for the tests I typically don't add the audio since it requires extra muxing.

To limit # of variables, use 128kb/s CBR AAC-LC stereo audio, basic mp4box muxing, and x264 from CLI or MeGUI.

I encode from MeGUI with the archos profile to MP4. It's fine with a 1 minute clip but not the full 24 minutes! That's what I just don't understand.
Mkvmerge also complains about some timecode or something missing from the video stream. I don't know what it is nor how to fix it.

[Inventive Software]

I'm questioning the legality of the PD-PSP profile for MeGUI. The max bitrate seems too high IMO. I read that newer firmware raised the max bitrate from 768 to 2 Mbits, but I saw nothing that allowed 4 Mbits. I personally haven't tested this, so can't confirm anything.

Also, with regard to resolutions when encoding for this thing, if the native screen size is 480x272, and they've allowed 720x480 and 352x480 video sizes, what's most ideal (avoided the 'b' word) when encoding 16:9 DVDs? Bear in mind I'm still relatively new to making this stuff actually work...

[Sharktooth]

will fix for the next update along with archos605 and other profiles.

[matrix40]

Hey question i convert a m2ts video from my The host blu ray movie. I converted the file with the hq-fast quality profile. I got the audio to line up and the quality is good. However when i play the file on my Tvix 4100 it seems like every 10 to 15 seconds the films sort of jumps or pulses. Has anyone ever had that problem before?

[foxyshadis]

Shark, can you please upload these fixed profiles?

[Atak_Snajpera]

However when i play the file on my Tvix 4100 it seems like every 10 to 15 seconds the films sort of jumps or pulses. Has anyone ever had that problem before?
Disable b-pyramid

[Atak_Snajpera]

I read that newer firmware raised the max bitrate from 768 to 2 Mbits, but I saw nothing that allowed 4 Mbits. I personally haven't tested this, so can't confirm anything.

You should test it first and then start complaning

Update: 4096 kbps is working smoothly on PSP

[Inventive Software]

You should test it first and then start complaning

Update: 4096 kbps is working smoothly on PSP

Have you read my previous posts? :p

Good to know I stand corrected. ;)

[Chainmax]

Was a test ever organized to see if files encoded with the HD-DVD profile were playable on an actual standalone off a DVD or HD-DVD blanks, so as to know if the profile could be pushed even further?

[Glorioso]

Im using the 360 profile, what audio codec should i use?

[Atak_Snajpera]

AAC-LC stereo

[Glorioso]

AAC-LC stereo

I've tried AAC-LC Stereo and MP3 Stereo and it wont open on 360 or PS3, the MP4 video only file playes fine on both... any clues?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Ct Aac ?

[JarrettH]

What info about my portable player do I need to know before I make an encode? I've got a Sony S618 Video MP3 Player that's supports AVC.:cool:

[Sharktooth]

V44: Fixes fixes fixes... Improved compatibility of the PD profiles. HD-DVD profiles were updated to use the x264 NAL-HRD patch options.

WARNING: MeGUI already comes with a NAL-HRD patched x264 build. If you want to use those profiles in other applications, ensure your x264 build is patched.

[kaihansen2001]

Megui just updated my x264 exe with x264-736.AQ-HRD-VBV.zip and your new v.44 profiles. Do they work together well or should i stay with previous x264 build?

[Sharktooth]

knowing i put online the updates together... what do you think?

[canTsTop]

hello,

i want to use Xbox360 profile, but in crf mode, is it enough to change from 2pass to crf, or i need to adjust others settings too?

thank you

[Deinorius]

Nope.

[Sharktooth]

forget about CRF or CQ and compatibility with XBOX, PS3 and other devices.
1pass ABR should be avoided too, since the 1pass RC is not so good.

[canTsTop]

forget about CRF or CQ and compatibility with XBOX, PS3 and other devices.

even with SD videos? currently i use CQ-ASP_Q2_eq(crf) profile, and xbox360 can play these videos, but not PS3. i want to try Xbox360/ps3 profile with crf, but i dont know is it enough to change from 2pass to crf, or i need to adjust others settings too.

[JarrettH]

Can you really tell a difference in bitrate on these 2" screens?

I encoded Kill Bill Vol 1 on to my Sony S618. It supports AVC with Baseline profile level 1.3 and AAC-LC audio. For mine the iPod profile seems to match so I set Keyframe Interval 240 and Min. GOP Size 24 to match the framerate and made the video bitrate 500kbps. Looks fine to me. I know you can do up to 768kbps, but is there any point?

[Chainmax]

Probably not. My Robot Chicken rips look pretty good at 320x240 with an average bitrate of 450kbps, even when viewed at 1024x768 on my computer monitor. And that was with previous versions (non-level 3) of the PSP profile.

Would someone be willing to try a couple of clips encoded with the HD-DVD profile and see if they play fine in either an HD-DVD or BluRay standalone? If so, I could provide some samples.

[XolocoTuxmaster]

I've made some 100% standard Blu-ray profiles, it would be great to include them in the pack

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1095653

[Sharktooth]

attachment is still not approved. please use megaupload or any other file sharing web service to share the profile.

[Sharktooth]

even with SD videos? currently i use CQ-ASP_Q2_eq(crf) profile, and xbox360 can play these videos, but not PS3. i want to try Xbox360/ps3 profile with crf, but i dont know is it enough to change from 2pass to crf, or i need to adjust others settings too.
what's not clear in what i already said?

[Exiton]

Quick question from a newbie... at the same high bitrate, which would give me the closest transparency to the original source for PC playback from a high quality VC-1 source.

HQ-Slower
PD-PS3-XBOX360
SA-HD-DVD

Edited: Took out "best", thanks for the reminder...

[Sharktooth]

quick answer:
12) How NOT to post on this forum:

...

Do not ask "what's best" because this question cannot be answered objectively. Each and everyone has their own view about what's best in a certain area. The best is what works best for you!
:readrule:

[cweb]

What is a good (= at least working) profile for the nokia n73? is there any suggestions.

[Atak_Snajpera]

SA-HD-DVD

For compatibility use this. Quality will be the same.

[Atak_Snajpera]

@XolocoTuxmaster
--keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --mvrange 511
is this really neccessary. I don't use those extra settings and everything plays fine.

[Sharktooth]

What is a good (= at least working) profile for the nokia n73? is there any suggestions.
the n95 profile should be good as long as you stick with the 320*xxx (non anamorphic) resolution and a low FPS value (15 or so).
also if you plan to use AAC make sure you use a LC profile.
if you have performance problems (dropped frames, laggy audio etc...) i suggest you to try CorePlayer for symbian.

[cweb]

the n95 profile should be good as long as you stick with the 320*xxx (non anamorphic) resolution and a low FPS value (15 or so).
also if you plan to use AAC make sure you use a LC profile.
if you have performance problems (dropped frames, laggy audio etc...) i suggest you to try CorePlayer for symbian.
thanks a lot!

[Deinorius]

What's the DPB size?
I try to encode a level 4.1 compliant Video, but x264 tells me, that it exceeds the level limit.

I'm using this cli with StaxRip.
--crf 22 --ref 8 --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --weightb --b-rdo --bime --direct auto --filter 1:1 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --subme 6 --me umh --mixed-refs --progress --threads auto --sar 33:33 --no-psnr --level 4.1 --no-ssim --thread-input --aq-strength 0.4 --aq-sensitivity 12 --vbv-maxrate 25000

[XolocoTuxmaster]

@Sharktooth

http://rs91.rapidshare.com/files/90096077/megui_blu-ray_profiles.zip

@Atak_Snajpera

Really? On a Blu-ray player?

Very strange...theoretically they have to be included...maybe you were lucky and x264 encoder set those parameters in a lower value...or maybe your player didn't mind to play no standard BDs...don't know... to ensure compatibility I recommend to use them

PD: That's about I-frames, for --mvrange 511 I've heard something about it's not needed newer x264 versions or something like that...haven't investigated much

[Atak_Snajpera]

PD: That's about I-frames, for --mvrange 511 I've heard something about it's not needed newer x264 versions or something like that...haven't investigated much

Something was fixed in rev697
https://trac.videolan.org/x264/log/trunk/

--keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --mvrange 511

I've made additional tests and It looks like that only --keyint 24 is required. Without --keyint 24 movie ends few seconds early than it should. LOL

[Sharktooth]

@XolocoTuxmaster: can you please upload the file to another host?
i cant get it from rapidshare.

[elguaxo]

@XolocoTuxmaster: can you please upload the file to another host?
i cant get it from rapidshare.

http://www.mediafire.com/?f1zgyj5mn3n or
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=49259103428493361575

[Sharktooth]

thanx!

[XolocoTuxmaster]

Something was fixed in rev697
https://trac.videolan.org/x264/log/trunk/

That's it, but it limits to 511.75 not 511...is that value 100% compatible? Haven't tried...


I've made additional tests and It looks like that only --keyint 24 is required. Without --keyint 24 movie ends few seconds early than it should. LOL

Hmm... actually the requeriment is not to have group of pixels longer than 1 sec...but --min-keyint is set to 25 by default and that can cause problems can't it?

By the way I realised that for 50i and 60i can be higher...but in a "not flagged true interlaced encoding" what would be right...25 and 30 or 50 and 60?, have never done an interlaced encoding

[Sharktooth]

@XolocoTuxmaster: the official link to megui is http://www.sf.net/projects/megui

[XolocoTuxmaster]

Ok thanks

What's the DPB size?
I try to encode a level 4.1 compliant Video, but x264 tells me, that it exceeds the level limit.

I'm using this cli with StaxRip.
--crf 22 --ref 8 --bframes 3 --b-pyramid --weightb --b-rdo --bime --direct auto --filter 1:1 --analyse p8x8,b8x8,i4x4,i8x8 --8x8dct --subme 6 --me umh --mixed-refs --progress --threads auto --sar 33:33 --no-psnr --level 4.1 --no-ssim --thread-input --aq-strength 0.4 --aq-sensitivity 12 --vbv-maxrate 25000

Sorry, I haven't seen your post. It's about ref frames, you can't have 8 for 4.1...max is 4 and is recommended to use 3

[Deinorius]

Ah, understood. MeGUI don't say anything against it. So I had no idea. Thanks for answer.