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Old 17th March 2016, 14:59   #861  |  Link
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- In case of hardsubbing, also create an AVS/CMD for non-subbe0d
I have not implemented that, but I have improved slightly the content of the mux option file. Now, when a subtitle is hardcoded, it is also added in the MUX options file, but commented out. It is therefore easier to edit the files to create also a non-hardsubbed version of the movie.
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- Edit the AVS script to remove the command that hardcodes the subtitle.
- Edit __MUX_3D_OPTIONS.txt to uncomment the subtitle stream.
- Less important: When a subtitle is hardcoded, its language code is assigned to the video track, since the video is now in a specific language. If you are picky, you should also restore the language of the video track to "und".
- It is also a good idea to change the output file name, of course.
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I can't check that myself, since I don't have the license.
MakeMKV is free while in beta
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Including for the BD? I believed it was free only for the DVD. Anyway, I'll download it again. Thanks.
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http://www.makemkv.com/
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- Functionality to open DVD discs is free and will always stay free.
- All features (including Blu-ray decryption and processing) are free during BETA.
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BD3D2MK3D v0.86 with SRT to ASS 3D converter (pre-release)

I've finished the beta version of the SRT to ASS 3D converter, and I have tried to release BD3D2MK3D v0.86, but unfortunately currently I can't log in to my FTP account at VideoHelp. I hope that the problem will be solved soon, and I'll release v0.86 officially as soon as possible.
In the meantime, you can download BD3D2MK3D v0.86 here. (That URL will be valid only during one week.)

There are still some things to improve in the SRT to ASS 3D converter, but it is already usable. See the help in the menu for an explanation on how to use it. Suggestions, bug reports and comments are welcome. Have fun!
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Old 19th March 2016, 12:39   #866  |  Link
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Hum, sorry, but it seems that it's the profile high that is used with the preset faster:
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E:\BD3D2MK3D_projects\test_faster\00015>"D:\Tcl\work\BD3D2MK3D\toolset\avs2yuv.exe" "__ENCODE_3D_MOVIE.avs" -frames 3084 -o - | "D:\Tcl\work\BD3D2MK3D\toolset\x264_x64.exe" --crf 22 --preset faster --sar 1:1 --range tv --colormatrix bt709 --frame-packing 3 --qpfile chapters_3D.qpfile --frames 3084 --fps 24000/1001 --output "00015_3D.264" --demuxer y4m --stdin y4m -
__ENCODE_3D_MOVIE.avs: 1920x1080, 24000/1001 fps, 3084 frames
y4m [info]: 1920x1080p 1:1 @ 24000/1001 fps (cfr)
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.1 Cache64
x264 [info]: profile High, level 4.0
Sorry, you've confused it. I meant x265 used for HEVC, and that is not the same.

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"D:\3D\BD3D2MK3D\toolset\x265_x64.exe"  --crf 20 --preset faster --level-idc 4.0
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x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 1.9+73-6d06de58c3163c19
x265 [info]: build info [Windows][ICC 1500][64 bit] 8bit
x265 [info]: Compiling by KG7x [x265.ru]
x265 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 LZCNT BMI2
x265 [info]: Main profile, Level-4 (Main tier)
Version 1 of the HEVC standard defines three basic profiles: Main, Main 10, and Main Still Picture. [ITU 2015]
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Oh, OK. I don't use x265 often, and I did not pay attention to that.
That will be fixed in the next version.

[EDIT] Fixed in final v0.86, posted just below.
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BD3D2MK3D v0.86 (final version)

Baldrick has just fixed the problem of the FTP login at VideoHelp (Thanks!), so here is the official release of v0.86.

Note that this version is slightly different that the one posted above. I've just fixed the label of the video track of the 3D version when x265 is used to compute it. (In fact, I've just removed the profile and level information from the label.) It's the little bug reported by Frank just above. If you don't use x265, the two versions are strictly equivalent, and anyway, the label of the video stream is not really important. However, you should download the final release anyway.

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v0.86 (March 19, 2016)
- Added the subtitle tool Convert SRT to ASS 3D (still in beta)
- The SAR (Sample Aspect Ratio in the h264 stream) is now 1:1 for all 3D modes (Full and Half).
- When a subtitle is hardcoded, it is now also present but commented out in __MUX_3D_OPTIONS.txt
- Fix: Wrong label of video stream when using x265 to encode the 3D version.
- Updated MkvToolnix exes to the latest version (v8.9.0)
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Old 19th March 2016, 14:33   #869  |  Link
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Thanks.
I'm testing with HEVC because Germany starts DVB-T2 (incl HEVC) with the Olympics. Then from 2017, all terrestrial tv channels are to be switched to HEVC.

BD3D2MK3D is a very good tool to study the behavior of HEVC. Results are very good, you can save 30-50 % size.
I use it now to convert very long 3D movies like Avatar, Jurassic World in excelent quality. Streaming from 8GB USB stick is possible. With my notebook I use raw interleave output to HDMI for the best passive 3D picture. You cannot trust the bad built-in tv players. So at the moment my notebook (Potplayer) decodes HEVC very fine.

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I like the compression and quality of HEVC too, but the problem is the compatibility. I guess I'll have to buy an external hardware player, or a mini-PC to run Kodi, but currently I use the player of my TV. It works very well with AVC and gives a much better picture than most external players I've tested so far, but it doesn't support the subtitles (except the stupid SRT format) and, unfortunately, HEVC. Anyway, I prefer to wait before buying something else, because I guess that many players are not yet ready for HEVC, and I prefer to have a larger choice...
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Old 22nd March 2016, 10:09   #871  |  Link
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Hum, it's not what MakeMKV itself tells. I've just installed the latest version and opened a BD3D, and I see this dialog:
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This functionality is shareware. You may evaluate it for 30 days after what you would need to purchase an activation key if you like the functionality. Do you want to start evaluation period now?
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&Yes &No
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Hum, it's not what MakeMKV itself tells. I've just installed the latest version and opened a BD3D, and I see this dialog:
Use Help -> Register and the provided beta key.
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What provided beta key? Where can I find it? Why is it necessary to make things so complex?

And I don't understand how to create a 3D MKV. I can open the 3DBD as files, and in that case, it is possible to select the title to backup and the additional MVC stream (not selected by default), but the resulting MKV contains only the AVC stream, and is therefore 2D only, and useless for BD3D2MK3D.

In the other hand, if I open the BD3D as a disc, the only thing that I can do is a whole backup to HDD. I cannot make a MKV with a specific title.

Have I missed something? How do you create a MVC MKV with a specific title?
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but the resulting MKV contains only the AVC stream
How did you determine that?
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With MkvExtract, MkvMerge and MediaInfo. No MVC stream.
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MediaInfo is not looking like this?
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Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Stereo High@L4.1 / High@L4.1
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No. There is ONLY an AVC stream. No MVC. Never. I did 5 tests so far, and it seems impossible to get it to work as expected.
Perhaps it's because I did not have the beta key. I've just found it, and will retry immediately...

[EDIT] No, no way. It doesn't work.

Sorry, I abandon. I have never liked MakeMKV, and the current version confirms that it has not evolved at all since the last time I've used it (years ago). There is still no preview, for example! And if it works only in some circumstances, I will probably receive questions and emails asking how to use it with BD3D2MK3D, and I will be unable to explain. I don't want that. Sorry.
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I just tried MakeMKV here.
It extracts the AVC and MVC streams and combines these in one interleaved .mkv which plays fine with stereoscopic player..

But if I remember correctly their interleaved format is proprietary (?); at least it used to be.
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I think they were the first to do it. Matroska isn't really well defined, most of it is just "do like mkvmerge does". LAV + madVR now play mvc-in-mkv as well (in 2d and 3d).
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Well, something seems to have been improved:
The interleaved stereoscopic .mkv produced by MakeMKV can now be demuxed with tsMuxeR (2.6.12) and split into separate .264 (=avc) and .mvc streams.
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