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Old 27th September 2014, 02:51   #1  |  Link
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Not keeping DTSHD 7.1 when previously did

I have it set to output to MKV under alternative. I have kept my settings the same, but all of a sudden my back up of Thor 2 is not keeping the DTSHD 7.1. All other BLurays the audio says

8 / 6 channel
unkown / 1536 bitrate

lossless / lossy...

have had no problems backing up many movies. When I play the m2ts file it says 8 / 6.. but the REMUX only says 6....DTSHD... not sure why??

Any suggestions...
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I have it set to output to MKV under alternative. I have kept my settings the same, but all of a sudden my back up of Thor 2 is not keeping the DTSHD 7.1. All other BLurays the audio says

8 / 6 channel
unkown / 1536 bitrate

lossless / lossy...

have had no problems backing up many movies. When I play the m2ts file it says 8 / 6.. but the REMUX only says 6....DTSHD... not sure why??

Any suggestions...
Do you have "Keep HD Audio for BD25 /Alternate Intact" checked in the SETUP dialog? You also have to choose a preset that says "Intact Audio".
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yes its selected and I had created a 1280x720 version in the Alternate text file... with the setting as INTACT... like i said others i have done worked fine and things have not changed....I might try another bluray just to see..
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yes its selected and I had created a 1280x720 version in the Alternate text file... with the setting as INTACT... like i said others i have done worked fine and things have not changed....I might try another bluray just to see..
I just tested it yesterday... and it worked correctly for me. Please post your log and the contents of your config/ini file.
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Old 28th September 2014, 03:41   #5  |  Link
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here is the log for each time I attempted..

Code:
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[09/23/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.05 (beta)
[21:51:43] Source:  MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD_00810
  - Input BD size: 27.32 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:52:03.299]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, Intact Audio
  - Automatic cropping of borders enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:51:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:51:43] Processing: VID_00914 (1 of 1)
 - [21:51:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00914]
 - [22:11:39] Reencoding video [VID_00914]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 161,198 frames
 - [22:11:39] Reencoding: VID_00914, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:16:48] Video Encode complete
 - [01:16:48] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[01:16:48]PHASE ONE complete
[01:16:48]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [01:16:50] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[01:21:40] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[01:21:41] JOB: MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD finished.
----------------------
[09/24/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.05 (beta)
[05:04:43] Source:  MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD_00810
  - Input BD size: 27.32 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:52:03.299]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, Intact Audio
  - Automatic cropping of borders enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[05:04:43] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [05:04:43] Processing: VID_00914 (1 of 1)
 - [05:04:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00914]
 - [05:22:28] Reencoding video [VID_00914]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 161,198 frames
 - [05:22:28] Reencoding: VID_00914, Pass 1 of 1
 - [08:26:49] Video Encode complete
 - [08:26:49] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[08:26:49]PHASE ONE complete
[08:26:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [08:26:50] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[08:31:31] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[08:31:32] JOB: MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD finished.
----------------------
[09/24/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.05 (beta)
[17:29:46] Source:  MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD_00810
  - Input BD size: 27.32 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:52:03.299]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, Intact Audio
  - Automatic cropping of borders enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:29:47] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [17:29:47] Processing: VID_00914 (1 of 1)
 - [17:29:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00914]
 - [17:48:37] Reencoding video [VID_00914]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 161,198 frames
 - [17:48:37] Reencoding: VID_00914, Pass 1 of 1
 - [20:53:28] Video Encode complete
 - [20:53:28] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[20:53:28]PHASE ONE complete
[20:53:28]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [20:53:29] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[20:58:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[20:58:18] JOB: MARVELS_THOR_THE_DARK_WORLD finished.
settings /INI

Code:
[Options]
VERSION=0.48.0.5
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=3
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=7500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=1
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
DECODER=2
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=7500
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=33
ALTCRF=18
ALT_TARGET=9000
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=D:\
WORKING_PATH=G:\THOR.2\
Alternate I am using
Code:
caption=MKV Container, 1280x720, Intact Audio
vBitrate=3000
aBitrate=0
aType=2
vFormat=4
cType=1
thanks for the help.
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Old 28th September 2014, 15:20   #6  |  Link
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So I did another movie and it worked

Code:
Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : DTS
Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                 : MA / Core
Mode                           : 16
Format settings, Endianness    : Big
Codec ID                       : A_DTS
Duration                       : 1h 42mn
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s)                     : 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                      : 24 bits
Compression mode               : Lossless / Lossy
Language                       : English
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No
log for that one

Code:
----------------------
[09/27/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.05 (beta)
[21:43:53] Source:  FROZEN_00810
  - Input BD size: 25.19 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:42:13.043]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: MKV Container, 1280x720, Intact Audio
  - Automatic cropping of borders enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: X264/LAVF
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:43:54] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:43:54] Processing: VID_00879 (1 of 11)
 - [21:43:54] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00879]
 - [22:01:13] Reencoding video [VID_00879]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,372 frames
 - [22:01:13] Reencoding: VID_00879, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:02:45] Video Encode complete
 - [22:02:45] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:02:45] Processing: VID_00880 (2 of 11)
 - [22:02:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00880]
 - [22:03:08] Reencoding video [VID_00880]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,217 frames
 - [22:03:08] Reencoding: VID_00880, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:04:31] Video Encode complete
 - [22:04:31] Processing: VID_00881 (3 of 11)
 - [22:04:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00881]
 - [22:07:08] Reencoding video [VID_00881]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 14,152 frames
 - [22:07:08] Reencoding: VID_00881, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:22:59] Video Encode complete
 - [22:22:59] Processing: VID_00882 (4 of 11)
 - [22:22:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00882]
 - [22:23:11] Reencoding video [VID_00882]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 269 frames
 - [22:23:11] Reencoding: VID_00882, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:23:31] Video Encode complete
 - [22:23:31] Processing: VID_00883 (5 of 11)
 - [22:23:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00883]
 - [22:28:23] Reencoding video [VID_00883]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 34,850 frames
 - [22:28:23] Reencoding: VID_00883, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:08:25] Video Encode complete
 - [23:08:25] Processing: VID_00884 (6 of 11)
 - [23:08:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00884]
 - [23:08:36] Reencoding video [VID_00884]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 184 frames
 - [23:08:36] Reencoding: VID_00884, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:08:48] Video Encode complete
 - [23:08:48] Processing: VID_00885 (7 of 11)
 - [23:08:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00885]
 - [23:09:15] Reencoding video [VID_00885]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,841 frames
 - [23:09:15] Reencoding: VID_00885, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:12:21] Video Encode complete
 - [23:12:21] Processing: VID_00886 (8 of 11)
 - [23:12:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00886]
 - [23:12:34] Reencoding video [VID_00886]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 421 frames
 - [23:12:34] Reencoding: VID_00886, Pass 1 of 1
 - [23:13:02] Video Encode complete
 - [23:13:02] Processing: VID_00887 (9 of 11)
 - [23:13:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00887]
 - [23:20:55] Reencoding video [VID_00887]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 78,016 frames
 - [23:20:55] Reencoding: VID_00887, Pass 1 of 1
 - [00:52:48] Video Encode complete
 - [00:52:48] Processing: VID_00888 (10 of 11)
 - [00:52:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00888]
 - [00:54:10] Reencoding video [VID_00888]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 12,924 frames
 - [00:54:10] Reencoding: VID_00888, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:05:31] Video Encode complete
 - [01:05:31] Processing: VID_00800 (11 of 11)
 - [01:05:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
 - [01:05:47] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 800 frames
 - [01:05:47] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 1
 - [01:06:40] Video Encode complete
[01:06:40]PHASE ONE complete
[01:06:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [01:06:40] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure
[01:12:24] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[01:12:24] JOB: FROZEN finished.

re-doing thor again....haven't changed anything
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Old 28th September 2014, 20:53   #7  |  Link
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did thor 2 again and again this is what is shown..

Code:
Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : DTS
Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID                       : A_DTS
Duration                       : 1h 52mn
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode               : Lossy
Language                       : English
Default                        : Yes
Forced                         : No
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Post the contents of AUD_00914.meta from your THOR job.
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Old 29th September 2014, 04:09   #9  |  Link
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I have it delete the work files... let me redo it and post it..
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Old 29th September 2014, 11:12   #10  |  Link
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here is the meta file
Code:
MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr  --vbv-len=500 --start-time=27000000
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\BDMV\STREAM\00914.m2ts", fps=23.976, track=4113
A_DTS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls", track=4352, lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4608,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4609,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4610,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4611,lang=por
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4612,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4613,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4614,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4615,lang=por
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4616,lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4617,lang=fra
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4618,lang=spa
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\BDMV\\PLAYLIST\00810.mpls",fps=23.976, track=4619,lang=por
audio AVS file

Code:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.48.05 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Users\BeastIII\Downloads\BD-RBV04805\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicDTSSource("00914.track_4352.dts")
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))
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According to the meta file, the entire track was extracted without stripping the HD portion. If not you would see "down-to-dts" as a part of the demux line. Your log (post #5) shows that it wasn't reencoded, so the AVS file wasn't used. That means that if it was HD -- it would remain HD. Are you sure the track that you're keeping is 7.1? It sure doesn't look like it.
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Old 29th September 2014, 23:13   #12  |  Link
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here is the mediainfo for the actual bluray

The cover actually says 7.1.. and the audio also shows 8/6

Code:
General
Complete name                  : D:\\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00800.mpls
Format                         : Blu-ray Playlist
File size                      : 1.01 KiB
Duration                       : 1h 52mn
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 1 bps

Video #1
ID                             : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames      : 4 frames
Codec ID                       : 27
Duration                       : 5s 5ms
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Maximum bit rate               : 32.5 Mbps
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
format_identifier              : HDMV
Source                         : 00947.m2ts

Video #2
ID                             : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames      : 4 frames
Codec ID                       : 27
Duration                       : 1h 52mn
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Maximum bit rate               : 32.5 Mbps
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
format_identifier              : HDMV
Source                         : 00914.m2ts

Audio #1
ID                             : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : DTS
Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                 : MA / Core
Mode                           : 16
Format settings, Endianness    : Big
Muxing mode                    : Stream extension
Codec ID                       : 134
Duration                       : 4s 992ms
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Bit rate                       : Unknown / 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s)                     : 8 channels / 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: L R, LFE / Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                      : 24 bits
Compression mode               : Lossless / Lossy
Language                       : English
Source                         : 00947.m2ts
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Old 30th September 2014, 00:04   #13  |  Link
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I don't think this is a BD-RB bug or anything jdobbs can fix.

This same problem has been posted about other programs that create mkv.

For example, on the MakeMKV forum:
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6074
and
http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8267

The 7.1 audio should still be present, but some software will report it as 5.1 in the mkv.
I don't know if this is a mkv bug or if not all software can read the correct audio channels in mkv.

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I tested it on my system and all 7.1 lighted up...wow... nice call.. weird that all other rips are detecting/reporting properly

using a different PLS I was able to get the audio correct, but not video. It has the testing noise/sound setup, then the movie with sound, but no video....however going into mediainfo shows the 8/6 DTSMA like it should...hmmm

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