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Old 6th November 2021, 14:59   #1  |  Link
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DirectShow player problems with the new HALLOWEEN UHD

Hi guys, I have received Shout's new version of John Carpenter's classic from 1978 and both MPC-BE and HC have problems with it. I think I have tested all possible combinations of players,
filters and renderers.

Description of the problem:
There are 5 audio tracks on this disc and the players load it this way, but:

- all 5 tracks are listed as dts hd-ma stereo although there is a 7.1 and a 5.1 track on it.

- the movie plays only when one of the first two audio tracks is selected. When I select one of the others playback just stops. Going back to track 1 or 2 makes playback resumes.

My first thought was that I got a bad disc but VLC handles this disc perfectly !! Does anyone maybe know what the problem could be ?
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Upload disk or give torrent link/magnet.
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Use BDInfo (https://www.videohelp.com/software/BDInfo) to view disc information.
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Thanks, here is the info. So the player looks for the 7.1 track and gets confused because it can't be found ?

Disc Title: Halloween
Disc Label: HALLOWEEN
Disc Size: 69,969,782,579 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.6

Notes:

BDINFO HOME:
Cinema Squid (old)
http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo
UniqProject GitHub (new)
https://github.com/UniqProject/BDInfo

INCLUDES FORUMS REPORT FOR:
AVS Forum Blu-ray Audio and Video Specifications Thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1155731

WARNING: File errors were encountered during scan:

00006.M2TS Unzulässige Funktion.

bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
bei System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy, Boolean useLongPath, Boolean checkHost)
bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, Boolean useAsync)
bei BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
bei BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

00005.M2TS Unzulässige Funktion.

bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
bei System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy, Boolean useLongPath, Boolean checkHost)
bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, Boolean useAsync)
bei BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
bei BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

00000.M2TS Unzulässige Funktion.

bei System.IO.__Error.WinIOError(Int32 errorCode, String maybeFullPath)
bei System.IO.FileStream.Init(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, Int32 rights, Boolean useRights, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, SECURITY_ATTRIBUTES secAttrs, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy, Boolean useLongPath, Boolean checkHost)
bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, FileOptions options, String msgPath, Boolean bFromProxy)
bei System.IO.FileStream..ctor(String path, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, Int32 bufferSize, Boolean useAsync)
bei BDInfo.TSStreamFile.Scan(List`1 playlists, Boolean isFullScan)
bei BDInfo.FormMain.ScanBDROMThread(Object parameter)

********************
PLAYLIST: 00002.MPLS
********************

<--- BEGIN FORUMS PASTE --->
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00002.MPLS                                                      HEVC    1:31:46 0               69,969,782,579  0.00    0.00    DTS-HD Master 2.0                         DTS-HD Master 5.1
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Halloween
Disc Label:     HALLOWEEN
Disc Size:      69,969,782,579 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00002.MPLS
Length:                 1:31:46.333 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   0 bytes
Total Bitrate:          0.00 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       0 kbps              2160p / 24 fps / 16:9
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     0 kbps              1080p / 24 fps / 16:9

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         0 kbps          2.0 / 48 kHz    
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         0 kbps          5.1 / 48 kHz    
Dolby TrueHD Audio              English         0 kbps          5.1 / 48 kHz    
Dolby Digital Audio             English         0 kbps          2.0 / 48 kHz    
Dolby Digital Audio             English         0 kbps          2.0 / 48 kHz    

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         0.000 kbps                      

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00006.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:00:18.708     0               0               
00005.M2TS      0:00:18.708     0:00:15.291     0               0               
00000.M2TS      0:00:34.000     1:31:12.333     0               0               

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:11:43.666     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
2               0:11:43.666     0:07:27.083     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
3               0:19:10.750     0:07:47.583     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
4               0:26:58.333     0:06:59.666     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
5               0:33:58.000     0:09:35.250     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
6               0:43:33.250     0:07:32.458     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
7               0:51:05.708     0:07:57.666     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
8               0:59:03.375     0:07:35.041     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
9               1:06:38.416     0:06:48.375     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
10              1:13:26.791     0:08:03.500     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
11              1:21:30.291     0:05:06.666     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    
12              1:26:36.958     0:05:09.375     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----
<---- END FORUMS PASTE ---->

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: Halloween
Disc Label: HALLOWEEN
Disc Size: 69,969,782,579 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Playlist: 00002.MPLS
Size: 0 bytes
Length: 1:31:46.333
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps
Video: MPEG-H HEVC Video / 0 kbps / 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9
* Video: MPEG-H HEVC Video / 0 kbps / 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz
Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD Audio / 5.1 / 48 kHz
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz
Audio: English / Dolby Digital Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz
Subtitle: English / 0.000 kbps


********************
PLAYLIST: 00000.MPLS
********************

<--- BEGIN FORUMS PASTE --->
Code:
                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00000.MPLS                                                      AVC     0:00:26 0               69,969,782,579  0.00    0.00    DTS-HD Master 2.0
Code:
DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     Halloween
Disc Label:     HALLOWEEN
Disc Size:      69,969,782,579 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 0:00:26.818 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   0 bytes
Total Bitrate:          0.00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        0 kbps              1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         0 kbps          2.0 / 48 kHz    

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00003.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:00:26.818     0               0               

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:00:26.818     0 kbps          0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 kbps          00:00:00.000    0 bytes         0 bytes         00:00:00.000    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----
<---- END FORUMS PASTE ---->

QUICK SUMMARY:

Disc Title: Halloween
Disc Label: HALLOWEEN
Disc Size: 69,969,782,579 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Playlist: 00000.MPLS
Size: 0 bytes
Length: 0:00:26.818
Total Bitrate: 0.00 Mbps
Video: MPEG-4 AVC Video / 0 kbps / 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9
Audio: English / DTS-HD Master Audio / 2.0 / 48 kHz
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I have inspected the disc also with MakeMKV and if I am not mistaken I think I know what the problem is.
On the disc are the main movie file and others like one with the jingle for the production company, etc. All these files have the same audio tracks configuration.

However, when BE and HC loads the files they seem to create a 'first chapter' and here 5 dts-hd ma stereo are wrongly created and then it segues into the movie and this seem to confuse the player
because the audio tracke are then quite different because audio 3 is then trueHD. Track 4 and 5 are then ac3 !!

As I said this affects both MC BE and HC so the bug seem to be somewhere deep in the original MPC code base.
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On the disc are the main movie file and others like one with the jingle for the production company, etc. All these files have the same audio tracks configuration.
Which MPLS are you talking about? You show 00000.mpls and 00002.mpls

Can you load just 00000.m2ts into your player and tell us what happens?
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In case of MPC-HC the bluray parsing in the player itself is limited to finding the longest playlist (generally the main movie). The playback itself is handled by LAV Filters. That doesn't support the audio format of a track changing during the movie. You would need to ask nevcairiel if he can add support for that.
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MPC-BE opens and identifies audio tracks correctly.
https://i.imgur.com/ePxDWAN.png

P.S. You use LAV Filters in MPC-BE ?
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In case of MPC-HC the bluray parsing in the player itself is limited to finding the longest playlist (generally the main movie). The playback itself is handled by LAV Filters. That doesn't support the audio format of a track changing during the movie.
That's why I suggested to just load the last M2TS as the first two seem to be short fluff that might contain the offending audio.
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Thanks for all the suggestions - please give me a little time to look at them carefully.

@Aleksoid. Thanks for the screenshot and I think this shows the problem quite clearly !
The runtime for you is 1:31:12 -> so without the jingles.
My runtime is always 1:31:46. How can I make sure that the only the movie file gets loaded ?
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Open 00000.m2ts directly.
Default (longest) playlist 00002.mpls contain 00006.m2ts + 00005.m2ts + 00000.m2ts. 00006.m2ts and 00005.m2ts is short and contain only DTS-HD MA Stereo.
MPC-BE/HC players not support parse/change audio/video/subtitles tracks "on the fly".
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Confirmed, thanks - however this only worked on my system when I deleted the libaacs-files from the BE (and HC) folders. This gave me some headaches.

Would it be possible to add the ability that BE just ignores such files and jumps directly to the main file within a mpls - or maybe just ignores/removes the audio in such files to avoid this problem ??
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Would it be possible to add the ability that BE just ignores such files and jumps directly to the main file within a mpls - or maybe just ignores/removes the audio in such files to avoid this problem ??
No - all information inside .mpls/.clpi files. Need single file - open .m2ts directly.
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I have a new problematic blu-ray and instead of starting a new thread I thought it would be helpful to have these issues in one thread.
O.K., the blu-ray contains the movie and two trailers and with VLC I can access and watch all content.

With MPC-BE and HC I can fortunately watch the movie without any problems, however when I try to watch the trailers for example via -> navigation the player loads for a few seconds and then just closes !
I can, however, open and watch the trailers by opening the mpls for them directly.
Any ideas what might be causing this ?
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Just tested this HALLOWEEN UHD again but with the mpv-player and forks of it like implay or mpc-qt and surprisingly they show the same behaviour like BE and HC !!
I thought it was directshow problem only.

Is there any way to find out what exactly VLC does differently ?
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JRiver (in trial mode) fails too !! Fascinating ...
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Yes, no one just needs to bother with the processing of such BD.
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Well, the VLC team did care !!
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Well, the VLC team did care !!
So - use VLC.
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Well, the VLC team did care !!
They don't care. That is most likely accidentally working in VLC.
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