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30th June 2022, 07:12 | #1581 | Link |
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It is tricky with colors, depending on which program you used, monitor, TV settings, etc. you can get weird results. Check it out here, these are made in calibrated Photoshop, on a calibrated monitor. You can try your colors here: https://www.rapidtables.com/web/color/RGB_Color.html The values you posted looks more "lime" to me than yellow. 213-235-57 213-235-59 These I have used when I wanted a more "yellow" color on my subtitles. 240-201-136 254-236-185 255-215-0 Kind regards, varekai |
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SUP to XML/PNG export seems ok, but XML/PNG back to SUP suffers again. [EDIT] You beat me to it, varekai. Will read. |
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30th June 2022, 12:16 | #1583 | Link | |
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The subtitle I used as an example is taken straight from a DVD. I wish to edit the timing of it without altering the original color. Whether or not this subtitle is subjectively "yellow" or "lime" is not the issue. Thank you for confirming. It seems like a bug, right? |
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30th June 2022, 16:41 | #1584 | Link |
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Yep, it seems so. I also quick & dirty checked srt export:
srt --> SUP also has slightly off "B" value srt --> XML/PNG seems ok So, my guess would be there is something not 100% correct with SUP export B-value. I'm sure Nikse will respond. |
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213-235-57 and 213-235-59 Which one of the images I posted looks yellow in your opinion? Also the difference in these values are veery small, hardly noticeable... Last edited by varekai; 30th June 2022 at 21:09. |
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1st July 2022, 07:22 | #1586 | Link |
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Which one is which? Difficult isn't it, almost impossible, right?
Then use a colorpicker and find out... Two free very useful apps (portable if you prefer) for colorpick. https://annystudio.com/software/colorpicker/#download http://www.den4b.com/products/colors |
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Thanks for pointing out. |
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I'm not interested in debating whether I used the most precisely correct color name to describe one example subtitle track. It is totally irrelevant. Yes, I acknowledged from the very beginning that the change introduced by Subtitle Edit is very small. Does that mean we can't discuss it? |
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4th July 2022, 22:08 | #1591 | Link |
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Yeah, I registered here so I could report this finding as my first post. You're the who wanted to have a debate with me about a color name, for some inexplicable reason. Now my post count is a problem too?
Perhaps it is you who needs to chill. |
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resolution, you may report your findings to Nikse555, maybe in PM.
In between you may test-run other colors to find if Blue offset stays constantly at +2 or moves with value, this might help Nikse555 with troubleshooting
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Does that work better? |
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6th July 2022, 08:49 | #1596 | Link |
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Thanks for your effforts, Subtitle Edit is a true gem, one of its kind!
Couldn't do without it! My humble opinion is that it is not worth wasting time on this so-called bug. It is simply not possible to the human eye to determine the difference in these tiny color values on TV or the computer display. However, if it is about commercial productions, such as photo printing, magazine art printing, movie production, authoring and publishing Blu-ray and other multimedia, then it is of course necessary with a near 100% correct color reproduction. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...f-human-vision Code:
Tried the beta Created sup from srt, no color added in srt For color used "blue" 0 255 255 Exported to sup Used sup embedded in video (BD and mkv) Used PowerDVD, PotPlayer, VLC and MPC-HC VLC got the closest reading the others somewhat slightly different readings 1 254 255 Imported sup and edited time Almost identical results. Last edited by varekai; 6th July 2022 at 09:03. Reason: added image 1.254.255-0.255.255 |
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Thanks for the fix, Nikse. BTW is there a solution in sight to the bottom offset issue mentioned earlier? https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...11#post1964911 https://forum.videohelp.com/threads/...ce#post2661661 |
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6th July 2022, 14:44 | #1599 | Link |
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Examining SUP images with colorpick tool. I have been doing greyscales only in the 148 - 200 range.
Further having checked with different values for R G and B, I can confirm discrepancies (and not only for B values). Both srt to SUP export and SUP to SUP still suffer from it. Which shows 2-254-255 in the colorpicker |
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