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Old 4th March 2017, 01:41   #42821  |  Link
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Stable isn't the word I'd use.. More like problem free. Windowed mode behaves just like any other media player renderer. Exclusive mode is a dedicated presentation between madVR and the graphics card. As such the UI changes, the screen blanks when changing mode and you get the ability to display in greater than 8 bit modes. Windowed mode works flawlessly for me and is generally what I'd recommend.
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Old 4th March 2017, 01:49   #42822  |  Link
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Cant we get higher than 8bit with Window Mode?
ryrynz since you too only use Window Mode is there a reason you havent gone to Exclusive Mode?
If one has problems is that the only reason one would change from Window to Exclusive?
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Old 4th March 2017, 02:08   #42823  |  Link
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Tested the new NGU in depth and the performance is okay but heats up the GPU quite a bit.
You just love to tick every box there is, don't you? How's the picture quality and performance (and especially the fan) if you just use very high settings? My battlestation HD7850 can do medium with almost minimum fan sound, and I consider this a noisy one. Yours probably can do default-high or default-very high easily.
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Old 4th March 2017, 02:38   #42824  |  Link
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Cant we get higher than 8bit with Window Mode?
ryrynz since you too only use Window Mode is there a reason you havent gone to Exclusive Mode?
If one has problems is that the only reason one would change from Window to Exclusive?

I don't know if this has changed recently with a new Nvidia driver update or not but sometime ago Nvidia would only allow 10bit using Exclusive Fullscreen Mode DirectX 11 for Geforce GPUs and reserved true 10bit for Workstations cards(quadro and the like)
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Old 4th March 2017, 02:40   #42825  |  Link
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Cant we get higher than 8bit with Window Mode?
Not with current Windows.

I also always use a windowed mode. Without a display with a native 10-bit panel there is no benefit to FSE for me and the slower initialization and flicker are negatives.
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Old 4th March 2017, 05:27   #42826  |  Link
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My battlestation HD7850 can do medium with almost minimum fan sound, and I consider this a noisy one.
Why the *uck is polaris so slow?I can do medium only with rx470 in 4k.
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Old 4th March 2017, 06:20   #42827  |  Link
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ask AMD not us.
a 1060 can do 1080 -> UHD with pixart very high (and normal chrome).
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Old 4th March 2017, 10:11   #42828  |  Link
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Hi madshi, if you have a little time please don't forget the test build with "* last video frame is now remembered for 2 seconds when stopping graph" disabled (for the DVD on XP bug).
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Old 4th March 2017, 11:10   #42829  |  Link
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Why the *uck is polaris so slow?I can do medium only with rx470 in 4k.
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ask AMD not us.
a 1060 can do 1080 -> UHD with pixart very high (and normal chrome).
1060 would be comparable to rx480?
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Old 4th March 2017, 12:51   #42830  |  Link
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You just love to tick every box there is, don't you? How's the picture quality and performance (and especially the fan) if you just use very high settings? My battlestation HD7850 can do medium with almost minimum fan sound, and I consider this a noisy one. Yours probably can do default-high or default-very high easily.
Actually, all settings are turned off... I think there's something off with my cooling....

Reducing banding high / high

Chroma NGU - med

Downscaling SSIM 1D - 100%, scale in linear light

UPscaling NGU MED luma,

doubling Jinc AR, SSIM 1D

Everything else turned off. I also have all trade quality for performance turned off though.

The thing is that the GPU gets hot, not noisy. On P775 you have control of fans like either an auto profile for everyday usage or activate the super cooler max profile.

Activating this super profile sounds like a vacuum cleaner and those settings are the most I can do with the GPU on auto - which is dead silent - without reaching 80C on GPU.

Maybe the fact that the resolution is 2560 * 1440 also plays a role in this .
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Old 4th March 2017, 13:27   #42831  |  Link
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ask AMD not us.
a 1060 can do 1080 -> UHD with pixart very high (and normal chrome).
They won't answer.I hope it's a driver thing.Can't use pixart very high at all,I get dropped frames in UHD.The best I can go in 4k is ngu(standard) high but there are dropped frames in some occasions.So I settle with med but by reading here med is the ''thin'' line between natural/unnatural.So...all good.I hope NGU is an exception and I won't be slow if another shader comes out.

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1060 would be comparable to rx480?
Yes.

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Old 4th March 2017, 17:08   #42832  |  Link
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Long story short 480's suck at NGU and even HDMI 2.0b can't output 10bit 2160p60, this seriously calls for some major postponing and I'll just send the upgraditis monster back to its cave for a while

OLED's crazy pricing is seriously dropping but the 1K 1080p sets come with a very nasty mosquito netting effect due to poor aperture ratio, a screensaver that kicks in during slow movies and a 81 cd/mē max brightness lolwut.

The good news is that when there'll be some affordable graphic card/UHD OLED TV both worthy of mVR, we'll have reached mVR 1.5

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Let's ''hope'' it only sucks with NGU.So I bought TV last year,next purchase in 2024?
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Fury's are pretty good apparently, I wonder how they'd fare with NGU but a HD7850 more than hits the spot for 1080p IME so no biggy.
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Old 4th March 2017, 18:14   #42835  |  Link
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i currently have this setting:

chroma = ReconSharp
imagedown = SSIM 2D 100%
imageup = NGUPIX V3 low

image enhancements:
sharpen edges 1.0
thin edges 2.0
lumasharpen 0.80
adaptivesharpen 1.0
anti-bloating 75%

works on almost all of my videos.
the only videos that it doesn't work on are super crappy low-res videos (~240p).
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Old 4th March 2017, 19:32   #42836  |  Link
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NGUPIX V3 low
Currently NGU pix v3 exists only in form of very high quality settings.
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Old 4th March 2017, 20:06   #42837  |  Link
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Long story short 480's suck at NGU and even HDMI 2.0b can't output 10bit 2160p60, this seriously calls for some major postponing and I'll just send the upgraditis monster back to its cave for a while

OLED's crazy pricing is seriously dropping but the 1K 1080p sets come with a very nasty mosquito netting effect due to poor aperture ratio, a screensaver that kicks in during slow movies and a 81 cd/mē max brightness lolwut.

The good news is that when there'll be some affordable graphic card/UHD OLED TV both worthy of mVR, we'll have reached mVR 1.5
By that time, if you insist on AMD, "navi" should be readily available if not obsolete already
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Long story short 480's suck at NGU and even HDMI 2.0b can't output 10bit 2160p60,
10 bits 2160p60 works fine on RX 480

NGU high works with dithering on random
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10 bits 2160p60 works fine on RX 480
ORLY? In 4:2:2? I don't care much for full chroma as most TV's disable all cinema features when forcing it but 4:2:0 isn't quite enough for mVR
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4:2:2 should be supported over HDMI 2.0 at 2160p60 at high bit depth, only 4:4:4/RGB is too much bandwidth for >=10-bit.
On many TVs you may need to use 12-bit instead of 10, if that choice is offered.
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