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Long time since I dealt with 3D, but I never had a problem with playing in-muxed 3D file structures as far as I remember. Maybe I had to manually force the TV to play it in 3D. Anyway, just a blast from the past ...... Added: Out of curiosity I imported a 3D half-SBS file in BD-Rebuilder and converted it to 1920x1080 MVC using FRIM (x264 doesn't support MVC), output to ISO (in-muxed, no SSIF folder). Mounting the ISO and playing the in-muxed .m2ts file plays as expected on PC in 2D using VLC, Vdub, mpv player, ffplay, and in 3D using StereoPlayer. Added 2: ... and streaming that in-muxed .m2ts to my TV plays it perfectly and automatically in 3D (unless I force the TV to play it as 2D). Last edited by Sharc; 18th August 2023 at 14:14. |
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I've been noticing a minor error with the standalone NVencoder. After adding letterbox bars, what is supposed to be 2160p, is listed by tsmuxer and my BD player as 2176p. It plays correctly, so there must be a piece of metadata that keeps it from being listed as 2160p?
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2. VLC can also play isos directly, but doesn't support 3D playback other than basic side by side and manually setting the TV to 3D SBS mode. 3. KODI can play isos and with the proper plugins it can also support the BD menus. There are builds that support MVC playback and other forms of 3D beyond Over/under and side by side. While it can play 3D ISOs (w/SSIF folder) in 3D, it doesn't recognize the in-muxed versions as 3D, so it plays them in 2D. Playing the m2ts file by itself results in 2D playback only. Trying to play the MVC file does nothing. 4. PotPlayer can also play 3D ISO, but when you open it, it first mounts the ISO, then plays it. It can't however play the in-mux one. PLaying MVC MKV files works fine, but trying to play the m2TS works in 2D only. 5. Last but not least Stereoscopic Player. This one is by far the least favorite one. It is extremely counterintuitive, but it does play movies. It can't play isos, directly or mounted. It doesn't understand the BD movie structure, it expects a DVD. Playing the M2TS file took me forever to figure out how to output it into a format other than anaglyph, but once I selected the Intel Stereo driver from the Viewing Method, it would output a 3D image. The problem is that it's very hard to watch, headache inducing, a lot of "shimmering" when there is movement on the screen, during pans, and it flashes at every scene/camera angle change. It's truly impossible to watch. When there isn't a lot of movement on the screen the 3D effect is OK. BTW, it does this regardless of source, SBS, TAB, MVC, regardless. If someone has some hints on how to set Stereoscopic player I'd appreciate it. As for streaming, I tried using my Qnap NAS DLNA server to stream as well as VLC Server, and neither can stream 3D content. Sure, they can both stream SBS or OU/TAB just fine and I can use the TV's 3D function to watch in 3D, but neither can stream either MVC MKV or 3D BluRay ISO, folder or in-muxed M2TS in 3D. EDIT: BLu-Ray rippers: 1. DVDFab doesn't recognize an in-muxed Blu-Ray disc, or ISO as 3D. It really wants the SSIF folder. 2. BDtoAVCHD doesn't recognize it either as a 3D BluRay, only 2D. But it has no problem working with 3D ISOs or discs that have the SSIF folder. 3. MakeMKV, same thing, A 3D BLu-ray disc or iso is recognized is recognized as such as long as the SSIF folder and associated contents are present. In-Muxed are only seen as 2D. So, while the in-muxed blu-ray may well be playable in a standalone player, or semi playable with Stereoscopic player, it isn't a format supported by the majority of players and rippers available today. A note on hardware used for testing, conversion, playback: * Intel NUC 6th Gen with KODI 20.0 (MVC build), PowerDVD 19, Stereoscopic player, VLC, PotPlayer, LG BP730 3D Blu-Ray Player, all connected to Vizio E3D320VX 3D TV * Intel NUC 8th Gen with KODI 20.0 (MVC build), PowerDVD 19, Vero 4K+ with OSMC/KODI 20.0, Sony UBP-X800 3D UHD Player, all connected to LG OLED65E6P 3D TV * Windows 10 PC, Xeon E5-2697 v4 + nVidia Quadro P4000 for conversions and encoding: MakeMKV, DVDFab, MKVToolnix, BDtoAVCHD, Blu-Disc Studio, Handbrake. Last edited by Dudeman007; 26th August 2023 at 17:10. |
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It does explain that it is a hardware issue. I'd have to double-check, but I think UHD discs resized to 25GB BD media don't get to be 2176, but 2160. Even if they are 2176, my Sony UHD player has no issue with them. UPDATE: Yep, reducing UHD media to BD25 results in 2176.
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Location: Chicago, IL
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I noticed that when I run x265.exe -V from the tools directory that while it includes the latest version 3.5 of x265, this build shows no extended CPU support features like AVX2 etc.
Was there a reason to avoid that for cross compatibility of users here? And if so has anyone replaced with specific builds without issues? I have a Ryzen 5950X and thinking a build that supports AVX2 should provide some performance improvements. |
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#31607 | Link |
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Not able to blank just the main feature...
I've come across this issue a few times before, but I don't know if there is any solution for it.
In backing up the full 'THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES' Blu-ray (Australia) I want to put the film on a separate Blu-ray which I've already done using the 'Movie Only' setting, so that's fine. But, I then wanted to do what I've done many times, take my pants off and..., oh, uh, not that... I tried then getting the rest of the full Blu-ray with menus and extras which I could then burn to another Blu-ray. Normally what I do is simply blank the main film and then process the 'Full Blu-ray' so that I get all the menus and Xtras. But, in this case, and it has happened before but it's been a while, when I blank the main film, it also automatically blanks all the other Xtras but one small file. I don't seem to be able to blank JUST the film itself and keep all the Xtras. It's like the way the Blu-ray is constructed, the main film is kind of 'Locked' together with almost all the other Xtras. What I'm TRYING right now is doing a full Blu-ray with the destination set for BD50. I'm thinking that MAYBE by running the full Blu-ray through BDRB perhaps it will restructure the Blu-ray and somehow 'Unlock' that connection, and then maybe using that resulting full Blu-ray, I might be able to de-select or blank just the main film. I tried importing the Xtras I wanted which would have been fine, but BDRB would not allow me to preview any of the Xtras so that I could properly entitle which was which. I'll see if this works for now, but otherwise, is there anyway to 'Unlock' the main film from blanking all the Xtras when it is blanked? Thanks! PS: Nope, that didn't work... PPSS: Uh, I think that is because I ran out of space, Whoops! ![]() PPPSSS: (I'm running out of PP's!) Nope, it retained the same locked structure. But, my last resort is for the Xtras I'm simply reencoding the whole Blu-ray at the fastest possible speed and just play that disc for the Xtras. It's almost done now, so I'm pretty sure that should work. BUT... it would be nice to be able just to blank the movie alone in a case like that. Last edited by Lathe; 11th September 2023 at 04:43. |
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The other option which may not work, would be to copy the blanked main title MPLS and CLPI into the full disc folders replacing the originals and then process the disc with BD Rebuilder. This may cause an error if the main title is accessed from the disc, but all other titles should play. Last edited by jellyhead1; 12th September 2023 at 15:25. |
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Oh, I know I've asked this before, but with my sieve of a memory I'm sorry but I forgot what to do...
If I have an HEVC MKV file encoded with HDR, I know that if I reencode it with x264 it will looked washed out. I THINK I have to use a certain colour code or timing, right, in order to restore the colours to what they should be after being converted? There is some setting in BDRB where you can do that right and then convert the HEVC HDR file to x264 and have it look right? I'm pretty sure I did this once before, but I'll be damned if I can remember how the hell I did it (I'll make a note of it this time ![]() Thanks! ***EDIT This just jumped into my increasingly senile mind... Isn't there something like BC209 or something like that? But I don't know where to put it (no rude comments please...) ***EDIT 2 Ah... my brain just farted again! I think it was actually Handbrake that I used before where I can set that particular setting. I had thought that I had used BDRB, but I think it was Handbrake. Last edited by Lathe; 19th September 2023 at 09:55. |
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#31617 | Link |
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Yeah, after I asked about it I remembered I was pretty sure I ended up using Handbrake because it has a dropdown menu for colorspacing and you just choose the BT709 I think it is. I don't know if that is the best way to do it, but I think that is what I did before.
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Hello,
I want to ask if there is an option for extras to be resized/downscaled. I checked the hidden options file but couldn't locate such a function. The reason for asking is that I have several disks. I like to create a backup of 50GB, but the extras take up an extreme amount of space. For example, on the disc, the extras are 24GB. When reencoding the 4k, it's still around 8GB, which will be a minus of the main title with DolbyVision and several languages/audio streams. If it is possible to resize the extras to 720p, I could get that all to around 1GB for the bonuses and still look okay. I do not want to increase the "QUICK_CRF=" too high. |
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I believe I have a bug report. Using BDRB (Latest) I started originally in this thread; https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=185149
I have used 2 different PCs (both latest BDRB and one was a completely fresh install that never had BDRB on it) and 2 different titles and came across the same issue; For some reason BDRB changes (for me anyway) HEVC SDR BT.2020 video files to BT.709 and of course the resulting playback is not too pleasing when looking at the color (washed out) - This was for the 96 minute movie, oddly the shorter trailers also originally in SDR BT.2020 were not changed to BT.709 instead they kept their BT.2020 status but the 'Transfer Characteristic' was changed to 'PQ' and thus 'HDR' so these look completely over-exposed and overly bright. I can't be sure if there is a setting somewhere that needs to be made, if there is I suppose this isn't a bug but something people should know about. I know SDR BT.2020 is an odd duck (though within spec) for the orignal UHD to be in but if anyone has a title that uses it and can replicate then I can be sure it's not just me. |
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Here is the BDRB log for the above bug\issue;
[11/12/23] Checking System Settings - BD-Rebuilder v0.61.29 - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200] - Working Path Free Space: 243.25GB - AVISYNTH Version: 2.6.0.6, Ok - LAVFILTERS: Ok - AnyDVD settings check: Ok. - X264: Ok - X265: Ok - AFTEN: Ok - FAAC: Ok - MP4BOX: Ok - WAVI: Ok - TSMUXER: Ok - FRIMEncode: Ok - FRIMDecode: Ok [11/12/23] Systems Settings Check complete ---------------------- [11/12/23] BD Rebuilder v0.61.29 [12:47:16] Source: BDROM_UHD - Input BD size: 84.35 GB - Approximate total content: [05:39:00.653] - Target BD size: 46.39 GB - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200] - Auto Quality: Very Good (Very Fast), 1-Pass VBR - UHD-BD source detected. - Decoding/Frame serving: FFMPEG - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640 [12:47:16] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [12:47:16] Processing: VID_00301 (1 of 16) - [12:47:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00301] - [12:47:21] Reencoding video [VID_00301] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 240 frames - [12:47:21] Reencoding: VID_00301, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:47:23] Video Encode complete - [12:47:23] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio - [12:47:23] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:47:26] Processing: VID_00018 (2 of 16) - [12:47:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00018] - [12:47:31] Reencoding video [VID_00018] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,512 frames - [12:47:31] Reencoding: VID_00018, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:47:35] Video Encode complete - [12:47:35] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [12:47:35] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:47:39] Processing: VID_00019 (3 of 16) - [12:47:39] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00019] - [12:47:44] Reencoding video [VID_00019] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 3,240 frames - [12:47:44] Reencoding: VID_00019, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:47:53] Video Encode complete - [12:47:53] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [12:47:53] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:47:56] Processing: VID_00016 (4 of 16) - [12:47:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00016] - [12:48:01] Reencoding video [VID_00016] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,180 frames - [12:48:01] Reencoding: VID_00016, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:48:18] Video Encode complete - [12:48:18] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [12:48:18] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:48:22] Processing: VID_00015 (5 of 16) - [12:48:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00015] - [12:48:29] Reencoding video [VID_00015] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 10,608 frames - [12:48:29] Reencoding: VID_00015, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:48:58] Video Encode complete - [12:48:58] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [12:48:58] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:49:03] Processing: VID_00302 (6 of 16) - [12:49:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00302] - [12:49:12] Reencoding video [VID_00302] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 21,048 frames - [12:49:12] Reencoding: VID_00302, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:50:05] Video Encode complete - [12:50:05] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [12:50:05] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:50:11] Processing: VID_00012 (7 of 16) - [12:50:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012] - [12:50:20] Reencoding video [VID_00012] - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,542 frames - [12:50:20] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 1 - [12:57:08] Video Encode complete - [12:57:08] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio - [12:57:08] Multiplexing M2TS - [12:57:13] Processing: VID_00013 (8 of 16) - [12:57:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013] - [12:57:21] Reencoding video [VID_00013] - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,638 frames - [12:57:21] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:04:29] Video Encode complete - [13:04:29] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio - [13:04:29] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:04:33] Processing: VID_00021 (9 of 16) - [13:04:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021] - [13:04:43] Reencoding video [VID_00021] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 21,466 frames - [13:04:43] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:05:41] Video Encode complete - [13:05:41] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [13:05:41] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:05:47] Processing: VID_00009 (10 of 16) - [13:05:47] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009] - [13:05:58] Reencoding video [VID_00009] - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,151 frames - [13:05:58] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:17:39] Video Encode complete - [13:17:39] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [13:17:39] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:17:45] Processing: VID_00010 (11 of 16) - [13:17:45] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010] - [13:17:56] Reencoding video [VID_00010] - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,152 frames - [13:17:56] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:29:39] Video Encode complete - [13:29:39] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [13:29:39] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:29:44] Processing: VID_00011 (12 of 16) - [13:29:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011] - [13:29:55] Reencoding video [VID_00011] - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 4,155 frames - [13:29:55] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:41:35] Video Encode complete - [13:41:35] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [13:41:35] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:41:41] Processing: VID_00017 (13 of 16) - [13:41:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00017] - [13:42:02] Reencoding video [VID_00017] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 71,328 frames - [13:42:02] Reencoding: VID_00017, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:44:59] Video Encode complete - [13:44:59] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [13:44:59] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:45:11] Processing: VID_00020 (14 of 16) - [13:45:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020] - [13:45:37] Reencoding video [VID_00020] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 82,814 frames - Bitrate: 4,192 Kbs - [13:45:37] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:49:50] Video Encode complete - [13:49:50] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [13:49:50] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:50:00] Processing: VID_00014 (15 of 16) - [13:50:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00014] - [13:50:37] Reencoding video [VID_00014] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 105,192 frames - Bitrate: 5,202 Kbs - [13:50:37] Reencoding: VID_00014, Pass 1 of 1 - [13:57:14] Video Encode complete - [13:57:14] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio - [13:57:14] Multiplexing M2TS - [13:57:28] Processing: VID_00008 (16 of 16) - [13:57:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008] - [14:01:51] Reencoding video [VID_00008] - Source Video: HEVC, 3840x2160 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 138,454 frames - Bitrate: 35,212 Kbs - [14:01:51] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 1 - [20:15:16] Video Encode complete - [20:15:16] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio - Track 4353 (jpn): Keeping original audio - [20:15:16] Multiplexing M2TS [20:17:04]PHASE ONE complete [20:17:04]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started - [20:17:04] Rebuilding BD file Structure [20:17:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete [20:17:17] JOB: BDROM_UHD finished. I've kept the 'INF' file as well if that is needed and I have checked the Workfiles folder for the VID-AVS-HEVC files and can confirm they are as above. |
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