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Old 17th January 2020, 04:03   #21  |  Link
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Cartoon mode works fine only in Anime with "flat" style images, without dept...
Examples: Futurama, Simpsons

In all other cases, it should not be a good choice.
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Old 17th January 2020, 04:38   #22  |  Link
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Examples: Futurama, Simpsons
and that's why it wasn't named Anime mode but Cartoon mode
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Old 20th January 2020, 18:56   #23  |  Link
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Actually Cartoon mode don't work well on anime content, the same for lumi mask, vaq is better, that or no-aq.
Thanks for your opinions, that's informative. What I did was a regression test, though, not a quality test. Besides, when I say old-fashioned, I mean cell anime from like 30 years ago (1980s, 1990s), probably not what you're thinking when you hear the word "anime".
People often say some settings are better (e.g. 10-bit is better than 8-bit), but if tested in a double-blind way, sometimes (often?) they can't tell which is which Anyway the most powerful technique to make old shows look nicer, is not encoder settings, nor filter settings, but may be manual, frame-by-frame restoring/retouching to remove random dirt.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 16:32   #24  |  Link
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It has been a while since I used Xvid but even that old anime is better with film mode, cartoon is really for Simpson's etc.
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If you guys (encoding gurus) say so, I assume that is probably true. I still sometimes use old-fashioned xvid.avi as an internal working file for e.g. typesetting, typically a quick 1-pass, q=3. Since it's a temporary file just to check frame timing, and not related to the final format e.g. x264.mkv, I'm not trying to use the best possible settings for xvid. However, if I ever create xvid.avi, xvid.mkv, etc. as the final format, I take your advice seriously and do some blind tests. Thanks!
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