BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[santito]

interesting theory of the copy protection set to off...
but here's a question.. why some work.. and others dont?

[deank]

If the disc was not properly ripped (copy protection bit still present) and BD-Rebuilder doesn't reencode menu m2ts files then the PS3 will error out immediately because the 1st file it tries to play (the menu) is 'protected'.

All m2ts which are reencoded (tsmuxer being used) are okay, because tsMuxeR always sets the CP bit off.

It could explain it.

[jdobbs]

Hmm... then I guess the easiest way to correct this would be to just set the registry value:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ImgBurn\ISOBUILD_BlurayVideoResetCopyPermissionIndicatorFlag

for ImgBurn from within BD-RB. It would probably save a lot of time compared to having to reset it in all the M2TS files. If I understand if properly (no guarantee), the indicator could exist in the header of every packet.

Of course this wouldn't help those people who (for some reason) refuse to use ImgBurn.

[Capsbackup]

For those that don't have a PS3, and use standalone players, how might this affect our playback compatibility, etc... ?
I know I have only ever used IMGBurn, and never looked at this setting before. My setup box, as far as I know, has always been unchecked.

[deank]

@jdobbs: I think the best thing to do is to alert the authors of all the decrypting tools (except for AnyHDDVD, which works fine I guess). It is a ripping issue, not BD-RB anyway.

@Caps: It may not affect SAPs at the moment if they are forgiving enough. I think the presence of copy protection in m2ts packets would require active/present copy protection, which of course is not there, because the ripping software removes it. I think you should not worry if you used AnyHDDVD...

An easy way to check is to open a m2ts file and look at the first byte, which should be always < 0x40 (along with all the 1st bytes in each and every 192 byte m2ts packet).

Dean

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

For those that don't have a PS3, and use standalone players, how might this affect our playback compatibility, etc... ?
I know I have only ever used IMGBurn, and never looked at this setting before. My setup box, as far as I know, has always been unchecked.

If you're using AnyDVD HD (like I do), it isn't an issue anyway.

[Capsbackup]

Thanks deank and jdobbs! I do use Anydvdhd.
I don't use IMGBurn thru BD-RB, but instead create my image with it independently of BD-RB, which I guess I will continue to do.
I have never had a problem with my backups, and want to keep it that way.

[jdobbs]

I just updated the first post of this thread with a link to the newest release of BD-RB (v0.34.02). Changes for this version are:

- Modified startup to search for and set a registry
  value for ImgBurn that tells it to reset the Copy
  Permission Flag during burn.  This has been reported
  to help maintain PS3 compatibility (and possibly
  other players) for full backups.  If for some reason 
  you don't want BD-RB to set this value you can add the 
  hidden setting "RESET_PERMISSION=0" to the config
  (INI) file.
- Other minor corrections and cosmetic fixes.

[santito]

im happy to announce that the option in imgburn .. make my useless movies to work in ps3

thanks....

[deank]

@santito: Will you share with us what program did you use for ripping these (non-working) blu-ray titles?

Great news, actually since it is not a failure in PS3 to play BD25's nor in BD-RB.

[santito]

actually...

i just copy the movie again to the hdd.. and then activate the option in imgburn... Reset 'Copy Permission Indicator' Flag when burning

and it works fine without issue..

[deank]

?!?

You just copy *what*? A purchased Blu-ray title with running decrypting software or what? I asked for what you did when you ripped the original discs, if it was the case at all...

[santito]

sorry

for not being very descriptive...

i use dvdfab 7 the first time i rip the movie...

i dont have anydvd so i can't tell you if the problem was the rip with dvdfab

[deank]

Thanks... I believe you should email Fengtao @ dvdfab for this particular decrypting problem.

// I emailed him with a link to the thread.

[Ch3vr0n]

Ey jdobbs, might wanna hold of on including your own BDREBUILDER.INI file in the zips. I never had that overwrite existing file for that ini before and now i had to reset all my settings. Kinda annoying

[Capsbackup]

@jdobbs;
Since I use IMGBurn independently of BD-RB, and this latest update says:

- Modified startup to search for and set a registry
value for ImgBurn that tells it to reset the Copy
Permission Flag during burn. This has been reported
to help maintain PS3 compatibility (and possibly
other players) for full backups

If I wanted to have IMGBurn behave the same way as your new .ini setting, would I simply select the box within the settings folder of IMGBurn : Reset 'Copy Permission Indicator' Flag?
Could it be worth testing out these previous full backup Universal titles that have the "no audio on playback issue" with this setting?

[teberly]

As an update - I used BD-RB to create the .mkv, .ac3, and .avs files then aborted the backup. I edited the .avs file to include ConvertFPS=true and then used MeGUI to actually encode and reumx the .mkv and .ac3 into a .m2ts file and evertyhing turned out great - audio in sync and video looks great.

To me this confirms that the problem is the missing ConvertFPS=true in the .avs script that BD-RB is creating.

Any idea why it inserts in for some and not for others? The same show on the same DVD? It did this to episodes of Star Trek and to episodes pf Magnum P.I.

Is there a way to force ConvertFPS=true in BD-RB?

Originally Posted by teberly

I'm trying to use BD-RB to upconvert some SD Start Trek:TNG episodes to HD.

I use DVDNextCopy to covert the DVD episodes to individual .m2ts files in a new Blu-ray folder.

I then load that into BD-RB and select Convert SD to HD in the setup tab. I have done this with version 0.34.01 and the prior two releases. I have the recommended version of avisynth, ffdshow, Haali Media Splitter and my Inspect.exe reports back ok on a windows 7 64 bit machine. I ripped the initial dvd with AnyDVDHD.

Prior to running them through BD-RB all files play fine. But after encoding and rebuild the audio is out of sync on some of the epsodes and the video appears accelerated.

I can see only one difference between the correct encodes and the incorrect encodes and it's in the .avs script for the video:

Audio out of sync - video plays fast:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.34.01 (beta)
DirectshowSource("C:\MULTIAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=29.97, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)


Audio in sync, video playback is correct:
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.34.01 (beta)
DirectshowSource("C:\MULTIAVCHD\AVCHD\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts", fps=29.97, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

If the ConvertFPS=true command is in the .avs script everything is fine - but for some episodes of the same show on the same disc BD-RB is not inserting the ConvertFPS=true command.

Is there a way to do this manually? When I interrupt the encode and edit the .avs file, BD-RB simply overwirites my edit.

What else can I tell you? I'm a contributor and owner of DVD-RB Professional and contributor to to BD-RB - both are incredible tools - but in this area I cannot get BD-RB to work.

[deank]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

Could it be worth testing out these previous full backup Universal titles that have the "no audio on playback issue" with this setting?

Since you're using AnyDVD HD it probably won't make a difference. If there was such copy-protection flag and your player obeyed it, the movie probably wouldn't start at all.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Capsbackup

@jdobbs;
Since I use IMGBurn independently of BD-RB, and this latest update says:

If I wanted to have IMGBurn behave the same way as your new .ini setting, would I simply select the box within the settings folder of IMGBurn : Reset 'Copy Permission Indicator' Flag?
Could it be worth testing out these previous full backup Universal titles that have the "no audio on playback issue" with this setting?

All that option does is click the box for you via the registry. I doubt this would have any effect -- because the problem was never there for AnyDVD HD rips.

[Edit] Too late -- DeanK had already answered it.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by teberly

As an update - I used BD-RB to create the .mkv, .ac3, and .avs files then aborted the backup. I edited the .avs file to include ConvertFPS=true and then used MeGUI to actually encode and reumx the .mkv and .ac3 into a .m2ts file and evertyhing turned out great - audio in sync and video looks great.

To me this confirms that the problem is the missing ConvertFPS=true in the .avs script that BD-RB is creating.

Any idea why it inserts in for some and not for others? The same show on the same DVD? It did this to episodes of Star Trek and to episodes pf Magnum P.I.

Is there a way to force ConvertFPS=true in BD-RB?

You shouldn't have to use it except as BD-RB decides (normally for sources that use pulldown). The fact that it is only happening to you makes me think you might be somehow modifying the original before presenting it to BD-RB -- I can't know without logs. Are you preprocessing in any way (using other programs before running the source through BD-RB)?

It would help if you posted your logs... is the source AVC, VC-1, MPEG? Is it an original disc? What disc is it? A little useful information can make the response to your bug report a lot more meaningful.