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Old 9th May 2017, 12:44   #43661  |  Link
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That judder is "normal". Fast movements simply look that way on low framerate video.
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Old 9th May 2017, 19:20   #43662  |  Link
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Does having ffdshow raw video filter in the chain affect anything quality wise?
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Old 9th May 2017, 19:41   #43663  |  Link
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Does having ffdshow raw video filter in the chain affect anything quality wise?
1. ffdshow raw is blocking the retrieving of any information about stream from LAV to madVR (although madVR can get stream info by himself in most cases)
2. ffdshow raw can output only 8-bit YV12 [EDIT: sorry, seems it's wrong]
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Old 9th May 2017, 20:11   #43664  |  Link
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I just checked and found an occasion that it displays NV12 8 bit instead of P010 10 bit.I guess I will remove it when not needed to be safe.Thank you.
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Old 9th May 2017, 20:29   #43665  |  Link
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2. ffdshow raw can output only 8-bit YV12 [EDIT: sorry, seems it's wrong
Wasn't ffdshow's 10 bit support limited to decoding 10 bit H.264 without any filtering? So you cannot really avoid the format downgrade.
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Old 9th May 2017, 22:54   #43666  |  Link
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AFAIK there's no way you can get PO10 out from ffdshow, I've had it enabled with zero filters and I still get YV12.
Would've liked to have seen it be automatically disabled on 10 bit content types so I didn't have to disable it manually each time I viewed these files but there was no interest in doing so from the MPC-BE dev.
What madshi has cooked up will replace ffdshow raw for most for good and we won't need to worry about this at all.

So yes using it on 10 bit files will degrade quality a bit but whatever post-processing you do will probably improve it to your eyes more than whatever banding etc is introduced dropping back to YV12 (which madVR will help you deal with anyway if it's enabled) Personally any 10 bit content I view is of high quality so any image processing can be done by madVR.

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Old 9th May 2017, 23:28   #43667  |  Link
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I just use it for SVP but for 90% of the situations there is no use.Add/remove I guess.
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Old 10th May 2017, 02:53   #43668  |  Link
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Hello. Is it possible not just move subtitle to a bottom of the screen but scale them to? It is very annoying when subtitles on blu-ray overlap the picture on few pixel.
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subtitles on blu rays are images it is not easy to move them.
it is possible to move text based subtitles.
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Old 10th May 2017, 03:09   #43670  |  Link
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subtitles on blu rays are images it is not easy to move them.
it is possible to move text based subtitles.
madVR already can move blu-ray subtitles (settings -> processing -> zoom control -> move subtitles). I wonder is it possible to scale them to.
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Old 10th May 2017, 04:20   #43671  |  Link
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No, the target is not necessarily 23.976.

I suggest johnnylaiyee reads and follows the guide I wrote here: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=173571
I followed your guide to set my refresh rate to 48 in the first place.

It works great in 1080p -> 2180p upscales but failed to enter HDR mode in the new refresh rate.

Do you think there is a workaround to enable HDR in custom refresh rate?
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Old 10th May 2017, 07:52   #43672  |  Link
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I followed your guide to set my refresh rate to 48 in the first place.

It works great in 1080p -> 2180p upscales but failed to enter HDR mode in the new refresh rate.

Do you think there is a workaround to enable HDR in custom refresh rate?
probably because of HDMI limitations, if you are outputting 4:4:4 HDMI has a limitation at 30 hz.
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Old 10th May 2017, 09:22   #43673  |  Link
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probably because of HDMI limitations, if you are outputting 4:4:4 HDMI has a limitation at 30 hz.
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But I can enter HDR mode in native 60Hz just fine
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Entirely custom refresh rates sometimes confuse TVs, and a 48Hz rate is not any kind of standard. If you experience issues, stick to 24 or 60.
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Old 10th May 2017, 10:22   #43675  |  Link
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long time lurker....

I wanted to say a big thanks to Madshi for the amazing work on MadVr.

I was on Win 8.1, and thought it looked amazing, using NGU Sharp for 10bit hevc 1080p files (I could not use reconn for Chroma, as it produced too many errors).

However, Ive just updated to win 10 CU, and the PQ is even better (richer colours and a greater feel of depth to the images, and now I can use reconnsharp for chroma and NGU Sharp for luma).

I know it is widely reported, and working for some and not others, but on Win 10 Cu, and a GTX 980TI, no combination of drivers or settings forces my Samsung KS8000 into HDR mode. HDR games work fine, and the Nvida HDR SDK triggers the set fine.

Thanks again for the amazing work.

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I wanted to say a big thanks to Madshi for the amazing work on MadVr.

I was on Win 8.1, and thought it looked amazing, using NGU Sharp for 10bit hevc 1080p files (I could not use reconn for Chroma, as it produced too many errors).

However, Ive just updated to win 10 CU, and the PQ is even better (richer colours and a greater feel of depth to the images, and now I can use reconnsharp for chroma and NGU Sharp for luma).

I know it is widely reported, and working for some and not others, but on Win 10 Cu, and a GTX 980TI, no combination of drivers or settings forces my Samsung KS8000 into HDR mode. HDR games work fine, and the Nvida HDR SDK triggers the set fine.

Thanks again for the amazing work.

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My gtx 970 can enter hdr mode with madvr in win10 cu just fine

I have to enter the hdr mode in windows first before playing the file though

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Old 10th May 2017, 10:54   #43677  |  Link
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My gtx 970 can enter hdr mode with madvr in win10 cu just fine

I have to enter the hdr mode in windows first before playing the file though

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Interesting. I can set HDR in windows and it switches the Tv to HDR, but then when playing a HDR file using Madvr as the renderer (MPC, Kodi, Pot player etc), it switches back to SDR).

Any pointers?

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Edit - just occurred to me - are you using FSE DX11 mode?

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Interesting. I can set HDR in windows and it switches the Tv to HDR, but then when playing a HDR file using Madvr as the renderer (MPC, Kodi, Pot player etc), it switches back to SDR).

Any pointers?

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Edit - just occurred to me - are you using FSE DX11 mode?
Did you set hdr passthrough and fullscreen exclusive mode in madvr?

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Did you set hdr passthrough and fullscreen exclusive mode in madvr?

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Yep.

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I followed your guide to set my refresh rate to 48 in the first place.

It works great in 1080p -> 2180p upscales but failed to enter HDR mode in the new refresh rate.

Do you think there is a workaround to enable HDR in custom refresh rate?
I think you should stick to 23.976 rather than chase 48.
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