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Old 2nd April 2024, 01:06   #1  |  Link
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HEVC - Good for encoding DVDs and Blu-ray extras?

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im planning on getting a custom built pc and i was wondering something. is it worth the time and effort to encode my DVDs and Blu-ray extras in HEVC? i am already going to encode my blu-rays in HEVC for sure, i know HEVC saves space as compared to AVC. so should i encode my blu-ray extras in HEVC as well? ive never heard of someone doing this but should i encode my DVD rips in HEVC too? im all about the quality. thanks in advance everyone!
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Old 2nd April 2024, 07:59   #2  |  Link
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HEVC is not really suited for such low resolutions as DVD. Better use H.264 for that. Extras are fine
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HEVC is not really suited for such low resolutions as DVD. Better use H.264 for that. Extras are fine
thanks a lot for the info!
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HEVC is not really suited for such low resolutions as DVD. Better use H.264 for that. Extras are fine
I would say that HEVC has less of a relative advantage over H.264 at lower resolutions, but it still has better compression efficiency.

Also, lots of Blu-ray extras are also HD.
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If you're about the quality, just remux the extras, as some can have footage that is grainy or super noisey, and encoding will just make them worse. Storage is cheap, pending on where you live, so there is no reason to encode. You use more $$ in energy than the cost of hard drives in the long run.
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For home encoding my default answer is still 10 bit HEVC in all cases, but indeed you may have better results with grainy SD content just keeping the source as-is, or remuxing as necessary.

Noise is hard to compress. Ask yourself just how much a 20% - 50% savings might be worth on this type of content.

Anything HD or above should see big benefits from using HEVC over AVC...
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thanks for continuing to reply everyone. can i get by with using makemkv to make quality files of what i said i wanted to rip? i was confusing ripping with encoding. my mistake. i plan to make a digital library of my movie collection for my jellyfin server. i have taught myself a lot computer skills throughout my life by trial and error and youtube videos and googling cause im a visual learner. however i get overwhelmed at times lol. freeing up storage is important to me however quality is just as important hence why i use makemkv to make lossless copies.
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also i hope its ok to ask but is it even worth buying blu-ray blanks anymore these days? i used to buy direct from japan on ebay panasonic blanks cause my buddy recommended them. i have a modded region free panny ub820 for my 4k hisense tv and i noticed it upscales hd pretty good on disc playback. i have a android shield not the pro. im debating what to do cause the upscaling seems to look better on the ub820 than on the shield.
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also i hope its ok to ask but is it even worth buying blu-ray blanks anymore these days? i used to buy direct from japan on ebay panasonic blanks cause my buddy recommended them. i have a modded region free panny ub820 for my 4k hisense tv and i noticed it upscales hd pretty good on disc playback. i have a android shield not the pro. im debating what to do cause the upscaling seems to look better on the ub820 than on the shield.

BD-R is quite expensive in terms of $/GB and in storage volume these days. I’ve not had cause to use one in nearly a decade myself.


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BD-R: Not everyone's cup of tea anymore, but I can vote for following use case:
Author/mux an extended UHD-BD and keep that disc for good.
The recent progress of CPU/GPU/AI made restoring a movie up to 4K with full effort possible, taking no shortcuts.
Add Subtitles from audio besides the already rendered ones, remaster audio tracks, have extended versions, whatever...

Using HEVC most old-fashioned 100min feature films will fit on a BD-R25.
The harder to encode ones will fit on a BD-R50.

From this year on the last encodes using NVEncC came out so well I didn't bother using x265 anymore. (Well, for hardest content x265 may return)
Watching this on a good 4K playback chain I am not looking back into lesser bits/resolutions, nor forward into any streaming bandwidth/content restrictions.
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