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Old 19th November 2024, 21:42   #41  |  Link
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Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| CPU                                                             | AMD Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor                              
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  28.501 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  36.658 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  43.394 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  74.648 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  207.049 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
Just a quick and dirty test.
But already showing big W.
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Code:
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| CPU                                                             | 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-12100                  
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  251.392 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  231.605 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  261.596 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  430.054 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  1167.038 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
Running on linux + virtualbox + a freshly installed Windows 10 with 8 Go memory (DDR4 3000) for the virtual machine.
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|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|--------------------
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 7950X      | AMD Ryzen 9 9950X          
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  45.86 fps          |  56.52 fps +23%         
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  36.97 fps          |  43.95 fps +19%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  29.84 fps          |  37.12 fps +24%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  18.51 fps          |  21.58 fps +17%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 6444 frames      |  25.73 fps          |  31.12 fps +21%    
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------
Just a quick and dirty test.
But already showing big W.

Clearly, for enconding, 9950X is a big improuvement if you compare with 7950X


Other codec test for CPU don't show that simply because these test are not at 100% for CPU charge or/and at power limit:
https://www.computerbase.de/2024-08/...oreanwendungen
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-comp...x-cpu-review/3
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Code:
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| CPU                                                             | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  58.348 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  68.090 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  79.863 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  127.898 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  350.710 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU                                                             | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  58.348 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  68.090 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  79.863 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  127.898 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  350.710 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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Well 5950X, 7950X and 9950X comparison is now possible ... ;-)
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Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU                                                             | AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  58.348 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  68.090 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  79.863 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  127.898 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  350.710 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|--------------------
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 5950X      |  Ryzen 9 7950X      |  Ryzen 9 9950X          
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|--------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  27.61 fps          |  45.86 fps +66%     |  56.52 fps +23%         
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  23.66 fps          |  36.97 fps +56%     |  43.95 fps +19%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  20.17 fps          |  29.84 fps +48%     |  37.12 fps +24%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  12.59 fps          |  18.51 fps +47%     |  21.58 fps +17%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 6444 frames      |  18.37 fps          |  25.73 fps +40%     |  31.12 fps +21%    
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------

Well 5950X results are stranges. You are sure that your CPU don't have another task during the benchmark?
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Well 5950X results are stranges. You are sure that your CPU don't have another task during the benchmark?
1st run was ran with all windows closed
2nd run is after a reboot (windows 11) with Internet (NIC card disabled) turned off, antivirus & firewall disabled.

Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor                    
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  52.592 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  66.851 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  78.844 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  129.300 s
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  352.515 s
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1st run was ran with all windows closed
2nd run is after a reboot (windows 11) with Internet (NIC card disabled) turned off, antivirus & firewall disabled.
tanks for your contribution. Results are more coherents now:

Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|--------------------
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 5950X      |  Ryzen 9 7950X      |  Ryzen 9 9950X          
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|--------------------
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  30.63 fps          |  45.86 fps +49%     |  56.52 fps +23%         
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  24.10 fps          |  36.97 fps +53%     |  43.95 fps +19%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  20.43 fps          |  29.84 fps +46%     |  37.12 fps +24%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  12.45 fps          |  18.51 fps +48%     |  21.58 fps +17%     
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 6444 frames      |  18.28 fps          |  25.73 fps +41%     |  31.12 fps +21%    
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|---------------------|---------------------|---------------------
The difference between 5950X and 7950X is really impressive ...
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Yes, I've used 5950X as well. At settings for everyday usage, comparing the Cinebench R23 score, 5950X is like 28,000~30,000 range at best, 7950X is 38,000~40,000 at best, and 9950X is only 43,000~44,500 at best (at least currently). Really HUGE improvement between Zen4 and Zen3.
But I'm still pretty happy with Zen5.

I did more tuning after the previously posted result, it might be able to get a better one now, but I'll save that until maybe two days later, after I replace the cooler (still shipping).
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New result.
What about new cooler, if you ask, it's... the exact same model (Thermalright PA140), I just want to leave the old one for 7950X.
And of course both are white, white is the new trend, yay.

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|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor                              
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  27.864 s                +26% 7905X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  34.895 s                +24.6% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  41.628 s                +29.7% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  70.095 s                +24.2% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  198.267 s                +26.3% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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New result.
What about new cooler, if you ask, it's... the exact same model (Thermalright PA140), I just want to leave the old one for 7950X.
And of course both are white, white is the new trend, yay.

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|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor                              
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  27.864 s                +26% 7905X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  34.895 s                +24.6% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  41.628 s                +29.7% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  70.095 s                +24.2% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  198.267 s                +26.3% 7950X
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
No overclocking or PBO?
Just 9950X at default stock?
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No overclocking or PBO?
Just 9950X at default stock?
PBO, curve optimizer -10 only, also I think both of my results are with unlocked power limit, the default is limited to 200w even with PBO (auto). After unlocking the power draw reported by PPT is ~250w with peaks at 270w.

Do you prefer all stock result?
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PBO, curve optimizer -10 only, also I think both of my results are with unlocked power limit, the default is limited to 200w even with PBO (auto). After unlocking the power draw reported by PPT is ~250w with peaks at 270w.

Do you prefer all stock result?
Yes, because other CPU result will be at stock.

Moreover compare PBO and stock result will be interessing.
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Yes, because other CPU result will be at stock.

Moreover compare PBO and stock result will be interessing.
I'll try stock setting when I have chance (and can remember), I'm that kind of person who don't like to turn off their computer

I anticipate the stock performance will be like a mini 7950X (4nm vs 5nm, get the joke?) because the 200w power limit don't seem to exist for 7950X, I don't know, could be a BIOS thing. I also upgraded the motherboard from B650 (no E) to X670E.
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I'll try stock setting when I have chance (and can remember), I'm that kind of person who don't like to turn off their computer

I anticipate the stock performance will be like a mini 7950X (4nm vs 5nm, get the joke?) because the 200w power limit don't seem to exist for 7950X, I don't know, could be a BIOS thing. I also upgraded the motherboard from B650 (no E) to X670E.
No because:

- IPC for Zen 5 is higher than Zen 4 (+9%)
- Clock for 9950X will be higher than 7950X at full charge (4nm vs 5 nm)
- You have full AVX-512 functionality for Zen 5 and not for zen 4

In fact the PBO gain is really small (2-3% maximum)

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No because:

- IPC for Zen 5 is higher than Zen 4 (+9%)
- Clock for 9950X will be higher than 7950X at full charge (4nm vs 5 nm)
- You have full AVX-512 functionality for Zen 5 and not for zen 4

In fact the PBO gain is really small (2-3% maximum)
Not if it uses 25% less power.
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Stock setting (including RAM).
Actually not as bas as I thought. But bad still.
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|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| CPU                                                             |  Ryzen 9 9950X 16-Core Processor                              
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  32.676 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  38.351 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  46.533 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  76.230 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  216.719 s                
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|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16-Core Processor
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 38.318 s
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| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 45.435 s
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 57.641 s
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames | 88.859 s
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| Overall - 1080p - HDR - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames | 257.600 s
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Code:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| CPU                                                             | AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6-Core Processor                               
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  88.168 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  102.724 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  125.620 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  185.319 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  486.553 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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| CPU                                                             | 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400 (AVX512 unlocked)                 
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  116.620 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  141.584 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  149.133 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  262.928 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  686.416 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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| CPU                                                             | 12th Gen  Core i5-12400 (AVX-512 off)                  
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| H264 - x264 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  115.997 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H265 - x265 - 1080p - HDR - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames    |  142.918 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| AV1 - SVT-AV1 - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames |  156.254 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| H266 - VVEnc - 1080p - HDR  - Multipart encoding - 1611 frames  |  266.348 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------- 
| Overall - 1080p - HDR  - ABR Ladder encoding - 1611 frames      |  680.756 s                
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------------
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How come the avx off results overall time is 680,756, but when you add up the four separate scores, it comes to 681,517
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