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26th May 2010, 11:31 | #1 | Link |
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MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 video codecs comparison
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Moscow State University Graphics & Multimedia Laboratory has finished 6-th H.264 codecs comparison. It is intended for practical researchers and developers in the field of high-end video compression. We have tested newest implementations of MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 video codecs and compare with XviD (MPEG-4 ASP) and Theora encoders. One of the main targets for this comparison was to test H.264 encoders for transcoding tasks for Movies and HDTV video content. Codec that were tested:
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Enhancements in comparison to Previous H.264/AVC Comparison:
Some examples from the comparison report: This figure depicts RD-curve for bitrate/quality. Higher curve corresponds better encoding quality. This graph shows quality drop for Theora encoder at 1000kbps. This figure depicts bitrate handling graph – encoders with good bitarte handling methods has horizontal lines close to 1.0 value. This graph shows strange bitrate handling methods for MS Expression encoder. The more information for it could be found by other graphs analysis. This figure depicts the progress of the x264 encoder over several years. Y-axis shows encoding quality – encoders with its mark higher than other have better quality. X-axis shows encoding time – encoders with its marks placed to left are faster than other. Therefore encoders in upper-left corner are best – faster and have higher quality than competitors. More detailed analysis could be found at next page Best regards, Dr. Dmitriy Kulikov, Head of Video Codec Testing team, Graphics&Media Lab, Moscow State University
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Thanks for posting this as always, Dr. Kulikov. MSU's comparisons are always thorough and well written. I personally think it would have been interesting to compare some extreme cases with much lower speed requirements, so x264's extra special sauce could be used.
Still, I'm totally unsurprised by x264's dominance. Thank you again. Derek
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According to your report only encoders were compared, i.e. Rate Control and Choose Mode. My question concerns the assessment of decoders, namely the robustness of decoders under bit-stream errors. Have you any methods to compare H.264 decoders? |
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Yes, we have a methodlogy to comapre and analyze H.264 decoders, also we had a project on private MPEG-2 and H.264 decoders comparison with codec developer company.
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You have pointed to one of our previous decoders comparison. Now we have better methodology for decoder comparison.
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I'm also missing a downloadable PDF version of the free report. Last edited by Raptus; 28th May 2010 at 12:18. |
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I read that quote as meaning that when both encoders were tuned for PSNR, MainConcept won (though it not's clear that's what it actually means).
It seems the for-pay versions have the PSNR graphs included, so if anyone has access to those they could confirm one way or the other. |
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We plan to include downloadable version of pdf in few days.
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also a more important contender entered the stage after the call was made VP8
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VP8 has recently attracted a lot of interest after it was owned by
Google. As you know, on May 2010, the WebM Project was launched, featuring contributions from "Mozilla, Opera, Google and more than forty other publishers, software and hardware vendors" in a major effort to use VP8 as the codec for HTML5. As one of appendixes to the annual H.264 comparison report an additional VP8 encoder vs. x264 encoder comparison was presented. We have tested VP8 encoder and compare its encoding quality and speed with x264. The final report contains all RD-curves, bitrate handling analysis and speed/quality graphs. Six different VP8 presets were tested which were chosen with the help of VP8 developers (so those were VP8 developers guided settings). http://www.compression.ru/video/code...8_vs_h264.html
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You really shouldn't allow misleading comments by developers to be posted like that. They claim that artifacts from MPEG compression "benefit H.264 and MPEG" and bias against VP8, but VP8 has almost the exact same transform scheme as H.264, and the same transform size. The "bias" against VP8 should be practically the same as the bias against any other H.264 encoder.
This kind of lie has been spread constantly when it comes to any non-MPEG video format; the same was repeated over and over with Theora, despite the fact that Theora's transform is practically identical to MPEG-1/2/4.
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