madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by WuNgUn

I'm afraid I don't know what I'm looking at/looking for in that image

Please just reply without quoting entire posts, you can edit them down or just not quote at all if posting directly after the person you're replying to.

[WuNgUn]

Yeah, I edited down the longer quotes...
User preferences usually don't notify them if they're not quoted...
And two of my quotes/posts weren't directly after the OP, so....

[QBhd]

Well I guess I could toss my findings into the ring regarding LG OLED color banding in PC Mode (I have a C8). I tested using Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 3 4k HDR "The Long Night". It is an awesome test for color banding. And no matter what I threw at the TV's PC Mode in terms of GPU output YCrCb/RGB/8bpc/10bpc/12bpc... it was all a mess. Too hard to enjoy. So I have come to the painful conclusion that I just need to bite the bullet and use the plain old HDMI label. I settled on using RGB Full 10-Bit output from my 5700 XT.

I also set chroma upscaling to Bicubic 60 and then cranked up the HDR settings instead of wasting the horsepower on chroma. I can see a slight difference in quality, but the horrible banding is much more of a noticeable PQ problem than sub-sampled chroma is.

QB

[nevcairiel]

Originally Posted by WuNgUn

Yeah, I edited down the longer quotes...
User preferences usually don't notify them if they're not quoted...
And two of my quotes/posts weren't directly after the OP, so....

There is no notification on quotes or mentions on this forum anyway, so thats not a reason to do it.

[WuNgUn]

Originally Posted by nevcairiel

There is no notification on quotes or mentions on this forum anyway, so thats not a reason to do it.

There is if you use Tapatalk on your phone!

[Asmodian]

I think that is a pretty small percentage of the user base though, and the forum itself does not do any notifications based on quotes.

Originally Posted by mark0077

Dithering: Error Diffusion - option 2 (colored noise and change dither for every frame enabled)

I prefer ordered dithering on my C7 and C9. I also much prefer colored noise and change dither for every frame disabled.

Originally Posted by mark0077

I see you have mentioned that you use 60hz and smooth motion. What motion test are you able to best spot the judder? I would like to reproduce, or is just your typical 24p judder?

I used panning scenes in 23.976 fps anime to decide there were some motion issues that went away when using 60 Hz + smooth motion. I do not have any 24 fps content. I am much less sure of this, banding and chroma resolution are easy to test but I am less sure of the results with motion tests.

Originally Posted by mark0077

Similarly I have added a custom mode in madVR for 47.95hz and it works well, but again its stuck in RGB mode only.

Another reason I just use 60 Hz + smooth motion. The trouble around mode with frame rate changes never really goes away with regular installs of new drivers, new Windows versions, etc.

[Siso]

I'm thinkin' about buying a new pc monitor 34 inch 3440x1440p, and I was wondering which nvidia card will be sufficient for using NGU Sharp High for image doubling. I watch only 1080p movies. The current card I have is GTX 1050 Ti.

[huhn]

a 1050 ti can nearly for sure do NGU low so you have to be a bit more precise.

[WuNgUn]

Anyone know of a way to pass thru web video thru MadVR? Obviously some 3rd party software player...?

[Crimson Wolf]

https://streamlink.github.io/

https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/index.html works with latest MPC-HC using advanced section settings for YDLMaxHeight if you put youtube-dl.exe in the $PATH.

Above two works for most streamed video sites.

[WuNgUn]

I was thinking more of a imbedded video in HTML...not a video playing service per-se.
I'll check it out...

[mambans]

Hey, Since I recently reformatted my PC my potplayer + madvr have started to stutter (a lot of "presentation glitches") in FSE mode. But sometimes when I disable FSE and smooth motion there are no more stutters and very rarely even FSE works without any stutters. Anyone have any idéas why FSE could stutter?

OSD:
FSE osd
Windowed osd (glitches & dropped frames are from the FSE mode)

Some settings:
Window mode
Exclusive mode
General
Smooth motion
Dithering

[WuNgUn]

Originally Posted by Crimson Wolf

https://streamlink.github.io/



https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/index.html works with latest MPC-HC using advanced section settings for YDLMaxHeight if you put youtube-dl.exe in the $PATH.



Above two works for most streamed video sites.

Looks like streamlink wants a plugin specifically for the website... Which there isn't one. (just a generic HTML page)

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by mambans

Anyone have any idéas why FSE could stutter?

Windows 10 seems to have broken FSE in many situations. Even when it works fine it is only being emulated. I recommend against using it now, I think it was 1809 or 1903 that really made FSE cause more trouble then it prevented.

[Siso]

Originally Posted by huhn

a 1050 ti can nearly for sure do NGU low so you have to be a bit more precise.

What do you mean by more precise? With my current monitor 2560x1080p I can do NGU High and downscale with SSIM 1D 100% AR LL with rendering times around 22 ms, with no dropped frames or delayed frames. So I was wondering if I need a new card. The difference between 2560x1080p and 3440x1440p is big.

[ryrynz]

Just spend as much as you can afford, a 1070 or 1080 are good value for this.

[Siso]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

Just spend as much as you can afford, a 1070 or 1080 are good value for this.

I may buy 1070. I think it will do a good work.

[el Filou]

What's the point of doubling 1080 content on a 1080 screen? Wouldn't sharpen/enhance detail do the job for much lower GPU load? Or are you speaking of SD material?
I don't double 1080 content on my 1440 desktop screen even though I'm sitting so close to it, Jinc is just fine. Doubling is worth it for "800p" 2.39:1 content though.

[huhn]

Originally Posted by Siso

What do you mean by more precise? With my current monitor 2560x1080p I can do NGU High and downscale with SSIM 1D 100% AR LL with rendering times around 22 ms, with no dropped frames or delayed frames. So I was wondering if I need a new card. The difference between 2560x1080p and 3440x1440p is big.

then the 1050 should be able to do the same to upscale to a resolution of 3440x1440p that pretty much the same work load because in both cases you are scale up to 3840x2180 and downscale this to the target resolution as long as you are not using error diffusion or other filter the work is very similar.

so are you sure you are already using NGU high?

[Klaus1189]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

Windows 10 seems to have broken FSE in many situations. Even when it works fine it is only being emulated. I recommend against using it now, I think it was 1809 or 1903 that really made FSE cause more trouble then it prevented.

I tested FSE with my RX480 on 1903 which was terrible after a new clean install of 1903 after using 1809. But I must admit I only tested it several month ago with the drivers available back then.

I tested it some days ago again on 1909 with my newer RX 5700 XT and latest drivers and it works just as fine as windowed.