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Old 27th May 2007, 19:25   #221  |  Link
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Jitter test screenshots with an nVidia 6600GT :

XP / EVR : windowed mode (without D3D fullscreen option)


XP / EVR : D3D fullscreen on


XP / VMR9 : D3D fullscreen on


Vista / EVR : windowed mode (D3D fullscreen off)


Vista / EVR : D3D fullscreen on
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Old 27th May 2007, 19:51   #222  |  Link
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Casimir666 is superior!!!!

Well just tested new build under gr8 nvidia 160.02 drivers.

Jitter:

1.Noticable under VMR9, both YV12 and RGB32 (from ffdshow). Not much difference in smoothness between those two.

2. EVR Custom presenter. LESS jitter compared to VMR9 for YV12, but MUCH MORE when ffdshow outputs in RGB32.

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New build DOES WORK with EVR in RGB32!!!! In custom presenter only though it's enough (since i prefer to use internal subtitle renderer). It still crashes on default EVR when fed with RGB32 data.

Subtitles:
Not a bug but suggesting: would be better if you make "position subtitles to frame" as default setting.


Overall wonderful job. Pitty though you can't compare jitter with Haali renderer.

Also, is it possible for EVR custom presenter to make conversion like 601<->709 and especially TV<>PC range?
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Subtitles:
Not a bug but suggesting: would be better if you make "position subtitles to frame" as default setting.
I don't know this option? What is it use for?


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Also, is it possible for EVR custom presenter to make conversion like 601<->709 and especially TV<>PC range?
Should be possible with shader i think ...
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New build DOES WORK with EVR in RGB32!!!! In custom presenter only though it's enough (since i prefer to use internal subtitle renderer). It still crashes on default EVR when fed with RGB32 data.
I have try with latest ffdshow Vista optimized, configure to do just YV12 -> RGB convertion and i have no jitter with EVR custom and no crash with EVR. What kind of video are you reading? You have something else activated on ffdshow?
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Thanks for the new build Casimir666, i've been looking forward to the next release

I'm not sure if you will have had a chance to look into it (or even if you plan to al all)...
but would you happen to know why media player classic is not recognised by vista as an active application? (monitor screensaver/powersave kicks in while playing)

[edit] there's still a bug with left-clicking to pause starting the movie from the beginning again.
doesn't always happen, but seems to only happen when clicking on or near the lower black border of a video

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Nice! The new build fixed my problems.
But now after using it I noticed that pictures are sharper in MPCHC, a bit too sharp, reavealing jaggy, pixelish lines.
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Old 28th May 2007, 10:32   #227  |  Link
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but would you happen to know why media player classic is not recognised by vista as an active application? (monitor screensaver/powersave kicks in while playing)
Didn't seems to be possible to kick screensaver with Vista if it's password protected
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646360.aspx

Power saving was missing i will add it.
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This new Jitter Display is also nice for Debuging Decoders, detecting very small frame drops very efficient visualy , better then just to look @ the statistics numerical display, i could find this way perfect playback settings with Nvidias PureVideo Decoder and Driver and their Per Pixel Adaptive Deinterlacer but funny is the best for me is the 2d surrface not the 3d surface in terms of less jitter with VMR9 renderless, also the regular offscreen surface is more performant here (in 3D fullscreen mode with DXVA, much smoother playback) then with the 3d surface. Please add more statistics like Frame Number, DXVA mode, Colorspace, Bitrate, Sync, Cpu utilization but only mpcs counter not the whole system, filterchain in 3D fullscreen mode , hmm with Cyberlinks H.264 Decoder and 2d surface the jitter display doesn't work only the tearing test in 3d surface it does for Nvidias Mpeg-2 PureVideo it works in both so it seems also to be Decoder dependent if it works or not.
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Didn't seems to be possible to kick screensaver with Vista if it's password protected
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms646360.aspx

Power saving was missing i will add it.
Thanks Casimir666
I don't actually have the screensaver enabled at all at the moment (and definitely not password protected), but I do use the power scheme set to switch off the monitor after being idle for 5 mins.
It's just really annoying to be watching a movie and the screen turns off

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Nice! The new build fixed my problems.
But now after using it I noticed that pictures are sharper in MPCHC, a bit too sharp, reavealing jaggy, pixelish lines.
Are you using YUV mixing option? If so try to remove it and leave just VMR9 mixer mode i think there is a bug with this option
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I have no tearing with the new build using EVR but the subs still don't display properly using any renderer. Did my files reached you?
Looks promising these MPC builds.
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I have no tearing with the new build using EVR but the subs still don't display properly using any renderer. Did my files reached you?
Looks promising these MPC builds.
Yes i received : your sub are working on my XP but i've just discover they are not on my Vista. I'll have a look
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it seems also to be Decoder dependent if it works or not.
Yes i've noticed : it's because i was trusting sample duration given by decoders, but they sometimes put crazy value (some even put 0! ) Next version will estimate framerate by itself.
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Casimir666, I noticed a bug (?) with your MPC mod:

The problem happens with AVI files:
Sometimes MPC doesn't play the AVI from the beginning!
Instead it jumps to some random (?) position, right after I open the AVI file.
When I press "Stop" and then "Play" it plays from the beginning properly...

I tested both: MPC's internal AVI Splitter and Haali's Splitter. No difference!
There is no such problem with drevil_xxl's latest MPC build!


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Sorry, forget about it. It was my mistake.
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do I need ffdshow's postprocessing option enabled if I use EVR??...

because if I enable postprocessing in ffdshow and set it to automatic postprocessing than the picture is really blurred / to heavily post-processed... so I've disabled it

in other words - I don't need ffdshow's postprocessing anymore if I've enabled EVR ?...



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I think this should be disabled by default, as it's rather confusing...
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I think this should be disabled by default, as it's rather confusing...
same goes for D3D output. the player don't work very well with that enabled
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On XP, EVR doesn't seem to work with internal mpeg2 decoder... whenever I choose this combo, it automatically falls back to default video renderer. I tried several DVDs, same result.
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