Polish translation?

BloodyRipper · 8th July 2003, 22:37

i'm not sure what should i think about doing the polish translation of doom9's site. there's not so much demand for that, but on the other hand - i'm sure that aleksander can surely help me. what do you think - do it or maybe better not? i'm not so good at php, but i know html preety good. please help me.

Doom9 · 11th July 2003, 21:44

According to my statistics, people having coming from a .pl host are ranked 17th in the country list. Of course, that list isn't really that useful due to many ISPs using .com or .net regardless of the country of origin. But, there are successful ongoing translation projects for countries who are ranked lower than Poland. In the end you have to know if it's worth your time as my contribution will be insignificant compared to yours (I'll still try to help where I can but I don't speak Polish which severely limits my abilities to help out in such an endeavour).

BloodyRipper · 12th July 2003, 19:47

but what about the domain? and will i have to upload the whole project by myself? if yes, it's going to be nightmare(56kbit modem). about the domain - well, i can't afford www.doom9.pl, because i'm just 14 years old(and my pocket money is 35PLN=7,5$=8EURO). www.doom9.pl domain costs 244PLN=65$. maybe i will start translating when poland will come to the eruopean union and all the internet businnes, connection costs will go lower(i hope so). what 2 do? (like this popular polish saying - "moje serce jest w rozterce" - in english : "my heart is in a dilemma", but it sounds better in polish ;-) )

Doom9 · 12th July 2003, 21:52

well.. you start out with a limited amount of documents to the upload won't be that huge. Furthermore, I could upload the entire collection of html, gif and jpeg files for you, and you replace the original html docs by translated ones as you or your teammates translate them. As for an own domain, you're not required to have one. In fact, only the German, Dutch and Hungarian team have their own domain so far (doom9.tk has been registered so I presume that people are still gearing up for a Turkish translation... if you guys are out there.. I'd love to hear from you), the other 6 teams all have a doom9.org subdomain. Considering the financial situation I think using polish.doom9.org, or maybe polski.doom9.org (I hope I got that right.. as I said I don't speak Polish) should do just fine. And as for a webspace, if you can't find something (friends with connections to ISPs come in handy here and you won't have to worry about traffic too much since I host the software, meaning I take the brunt of your bandwith usage anyway) we can always come to an agreement.

aleksander · 12th July 2003, 22:32

Polish translation - that may be interesting.
But I'm not sure if it's a task that two of us could take.
There's a huge load of documents that would have to be translated. And one thing I hate about Polish is that it is so extremely (sometimes) hard to find a good word to express what other word (English one) has meant. There is as many different translations of one English word as many translators

Go figure!
And regarding uploading stuff, etc. I'm at T1 line, so that's not a problem for me. I'm glad I don't have to deal with Polish type of connections anymore. There's nothing like T1 and wireless...

That's it for now.
I think it would be nice to have Polish version of doom9.org...
Let's see what happens...

take care

aleksander

BloodyRipper · 12th July 2003, 23:45

well, i don't know what to think about it...that's quite a lot of work, but i'm not so mobilized - i'll try, but i don't promise. and what about the domain?

BloodyRipper · 12th July 2003, 23:56

sorry about that previous post - i didn't read the doom9's one. if the domain could be polish.doom9.org or polski.doom9.org(yeah, doom9 - that's right! Polski is "Polish" for Polish!!!) that would be quite fine.

RobertR · 14th July 2003, 15:16

Once i thought about translating one or two Doom9's guides to polish (to put on my own webpage). Sadly short after that my free time shrinked to almost null (i'm slowly recovering from this situation).

As for translations i think that people that are posting/reading forums CDR Info and/or DivX.Pl could help if You let'em know about Your idea.

I'll be glad if i can help

RobertR · 21st July 2003, 18:58

So?
Is there anything going on with polish translation? or polish translation project?

BloodyRipper · 21st July 2003, 19:29

well, i don't think so i will do the polish translation. translating gordian knot took me 4 days(it was just 64KB), so i don't want to think how long the polish translation of site will take (it's 18MB!!!). if someone would start the polish translation already - i'd participate with all mine pleasure. you know - it's always difficult to start :-/

Doom9 · 21st July 2003, 23:58

well.. you don't have to do it all alone, but it usually takes one very commited guy to really get things going. You don't have to translate too many guides, start with a few (gknot, dvd2svcd are my favorites), then make sure you have the site groundwork all laid out, translate the news on a daily basis and use that as a starting point. Daily news are important to that people will come back to your site. Once the words spread, you should get more and more volunteers.

BloodyRipper · 22nd July 2003, 10:18

good advice. but a problem is that i won't be able to download & translate all the daily news every day, because i have just 56k modem and i can't surf the internet too much every day (up to 12 minutes every day). maybe i will start - i don't know.

RobertR · 22nd July 2003, 10:48

Every journey has a first step...

Right now i have a some spare time i can use to translate some guide(s) and i intend to do so, but i can't promise it will last for ever

Yesterday i downloaded 4 guides about dvdr and will try to translate first of them by end of this week.

As for daily news i think they are relatively easy to translate as there is not much text there.

I think that we have to start in one way or another and then try to get more people to translate various parts of Doom9 site

Doom9 · 28th July 2003, 21:53

forever is a long time, but you don't have to have a hundred translated documents... a few key ones will suffice if you give the people a reason to come back.
It normally requires a lot of effort from very few people, the first webmaster is going to be a very busy guy in the beginning phase, but if you can split up the administrative tasks (somebody translating and uploading news, one managing the translation.. assigning documents, proofreading them, and perhaps somebody running the forum) you should manage just fine even if you cannot spend 5h a day on the project. If no new guides are to be written and no software is to be tested, I can check the entire forum twice a day and stay well below 2h work a day. Cut down the forum and you'll be below half an hour a day which isn't that much.

killingspree · 20th August 2003, 13:28

first of: sorry i can't help you translate as i do not speak a single word of polish although i'd like to

anyway, i just wanted to add that imho the oneclickdvd backup solutions are increasingly important. so a translation of the dvdshrink guide would probably not be a bad idea

good luck with your project, if i can help in any way pls PM me and i'll see what i can do!

steVe

BloodyRipper · 23rd August 2003, 21:21

well, i resigned. school is coming and i'm not sure i will be able to take this task. sorry to all poles on this forum. I'VE FAILED.

tradupro · 12th December 2022, 16:11

Translation to polish is so complicated. I was learning how to translate in Madrid. Coudnt make a correct translation.

VoodooFX · 5th January 2023, 19:28

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filler56789 · 16th January 2023, 16:30

IMNSHO the entire translations forum should be made read-only

and the Gleitz board thread should be moved to the General Discussion section.😐

kolak · 23rd August 2023, 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by BloodyRipper

well, i resigned. school is coming and i'm not sure i will be able to take this task. sorry to all poles on this forum. I'VE FAILED.

Most younger Polish people have good enough English to use doom9.
If not I would suggest first to learn it and then start using doom9

8th July 2003, 22:37	#1 \| Link
BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	Polish translation? i'm not sure what should i think about doing the polish translation of doom9's site. there's not so much demand for that, but on the other hand - i'm sure that aleksander can surely help me. what do you think - do it or maybe better not? i'm not so good at php, but i know html preety good. please help me.

11th July 2003, 21:44	#2 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	According to my statistics, people having coming from a .pl host are ranked 17th in the country list. Of course, that list isn't really that useful due to many ISPs using .com or .net regardless of the country of origin. But, there are successful ongoing translation projects for countries who are ranked lower than Poland. In the end you have to know if it's worth your time as my contribution will be insignificant compared to yours (I'll still try to help where I can but I don't speak Polish which severely limits my abilities to help out in such an endeavour). __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	well.. you start out with a limited amount of documents to the upload won't be that huge. Furthermore, I could upload the entire collection of html, gif and jpeg files for you, and you replace the original html docs by translated ones as you or your teammates translate them. As for an own domain, you're not required to have one. In fact, only the German, Dutch and Hungarian team have their own domain so far (doom9.tk has been registered so I presume that people are still gearing up for a Turkish translation... if you guys are out there.. I'd love to hear from you), the other 6 teams all have a doom9.org subdomain. Considering the financial situation I think using polish.doom9.org, or maybe polski.doom9.org (I hope I got that right.. as I said I don't speak Polish) should do just fine. And as for a webspace, if you can't find something (friends with connections to ISPs come in handy here and you won't have to worry about traffic too much since I host the software, meaning I take the brunt of your bandwith usage anyway) we can always come to an agreement. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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RobertR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 98	Once i thought about translating one or two Doom9's guides to polish (to put on my own webpage). Sadly short after that my free time shrinked to almost null (i'm slowly recovering from this situation). As for translations i think that people that are posting/reading forums CDR Info and/or DivX.Pl could help if You let'em know about Your idea. I'll be glad if i can help __________________ NameLess, the Jedi aka NLJ

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RobertR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 98	So? Is there anything going on with polish translation? or polish translation project? __________________ NameLess, the Jedi aka NLJ

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BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	but what about the domain? and will i have to upload the whole project by myself? if yes, it's going to be nightmare(56kbit modem). about the domain - well, i can't afford www.doom9.pl, because i'm just 14 years old(and my pocket money is 35PLN=7,5$=8EURO). www.doom9.pl domain costs 244PLN=65$. maybe i will start translating when poland will come to the eruopean union and all the internet businnes, connection costs will go lower(i hope so). what 2 do? (like this popular polish saying - "moje serce jest w rozterce" - in english : "my heart is in a dilemma", but it sounds better in polish ;-) )

12th July 2003, 22:32	#5 \| Link
aleksander Someone, somewhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: At home... Posts: 495	Polish translation - that may be interesting. But I'm not sure if it's a task that two of us could take. There's a huge load of documents that would have to be translated. And one thing I hate about Polish is that it is so extremely (sometimes) hard to find a good word to express what other word (English one) has meant. There is as many different translations of one English word as many translators Go figure! And regarding uploading stuff, etc. I'm at T1 line, so that's not a problem for me. I'm glad I don't have to deal with Polish type of connections anymore. There's nothing like T1 and wireless... That's it for now. I think it would be nice to have Polish version of doom9.org... Let's see what happens... take care aleksander

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BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	well, i don't know what to think about it...that's quite a lot of work, but i'm not so mobilized - i'll try, but i don't promise. and what about the domain?

12th July 2003, 23:56	#7 \| Link
BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	sorry about that previous post - i didn't read the doom9's one. if the domain could be polish.doom9.org or polski.doom9.org(yeah, doom9 - that's right! Polski is "Polish" for Polish!!!) that would be quite fine.

21st July 2003, 19:29	#10 \| Link
BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	well, i don't think so i will do the polish translation. translating gordian knot took me 4 days(it was just 64KB), so i don't want to think how long the polish translation of site will take (it's 18MB!!!). if someone would start the polish translation already - i'd participate with all mine pleasure. you know - it's always difficult to start :-/

21st July 2003, 23:58	#11 \| Link
Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	well.. you don't have to do it all alone, but it usually takes one very commited guy to really get things going. You don't have to translate too many guides, start with a few (gknot, dvd2svcd are my favorites), then make sure you have the site groundwork all laid out, translate the news on a daily basis and use that as a starting point. Daily news are important to that people will come back to your site. Once the words spread, you should get more and more volunteers. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

22nd July 2003, 10:18	#12 \| Link
BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	good advice. but a problem is that i won't be able to download & translate all the daily news every day, because i have just 56k modem and i can't surf the internet too much every day (up to 12 minutes every day). maybe i will start - i don't know.

22nd July 2003, 10:48	#13 \| Link
RobertR Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 98	Every journey has a first step... Right now i have a some spare time i can use to translate some guide(s) and i intend to do so, but i can't promise it will last for ever Yesterday i downloaded 4 guides about dvdr and will try to translate first of them by end of this week. As for daily news i think they are relatively easy to translate as there is not much text there. I think that we have to start in one way or another and then try to get more people to translate various parts of Doom9 site __________________ NameLess, the Jedi aka NLJ

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Doom9 clueless n00b Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 10,579	forever is a long time, but you don't have to have a hundred translated documents... a few key ones will suffice if you give the people a reason to come back. It normally requires a lot of effort from very few people, the first webmaster is going to be a very busy guy in the beginning phase, but if you can split up the administrative tasks (somebody translating and uploading news, one managing the translation.. assigning documents, proofreading them, and perhaps somebody running the forum) you should manage just fine even if you cannot spend 5h a day on the project. If no new guides are to be written and no software is to be tested, I can check the entire forum twice a day and stay well below 2h work a day. Cut down the forum and you'll be below half an hour a day which isn't that much. __________________ For the web's most comprehensive collection of DVD backup guides go to www.doom9.org

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killingspree Newbie Forum Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: way too deep in (cyber)space Posts: 2,436	first of: sorry i can't help you translate as i do not speak a single word of polish although i'd like to anyway, i just wanted to add that imho the oneclickdvd backup solutions are increasingly important. so a translation of the dvdshrink guide would probably not be a bad idea good luck with your project, if i can help in any way pls PM me and i'll see what i can do! steVe __________________ Search the forum, read the forum rules once more and use the search function on doom9.org before posting! oh btw my amazon.de wishlist

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BloodyRipper Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74	well, i resigned. school is coming and i'm not sure i will be able to take this task. sorry to all poles on this forum. I'VE FAILED.

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