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Old 3rd May 2021, 12:12   #61441  |  Link
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No it hasn't.

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Old 3rd May 2021, 15:09   #61442  |  Link
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I've been reading about resizable BAR.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...chmarks,1.html
Does this have any effect on madvr performance now or in the future? I figure I would ask before flashing my motherboard and GPU BIOS to try and get my system compatible.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 17:43   #61443  |  Link
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there is no harm in updating this feature (if you know what you are doing) but madVR currently does not support it. if it makes sense to support it is not know until someone tested it.

if you have a zen 2/3 CPU updating the bios is generally not a bad idea just be aware of the risk.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 19:21   #61444  |  Link
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it's not a bug madVR simple can't deint with d3d11 it was never implemented.
I don't understand. Deinterlacing works fine for me in d3d11.
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with d3d11 native >decode< as a source madVR can't deint at all.
d3d11 output has nothing todo with that.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 21:58   #61446  |  Link
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I've been reading about resizable BAR.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...chmarks,1.html
Does this have any effect on madvr performance now or in the future? I figure I would ask before flashing my motherboard and GPU BIOS to try and get my system compatible.
No, it does not. At least, not that I can measure.

It don't think it is relevant for madVR. How often does madVR need to read or write from chunks of memory larger than 256MB? How much performance increase would madVR get from being able to combine two transfers into one?
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No it hasn't.

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So why do I keep getting a message about needing to update madVR after installing version 130? Or do I have to do more than just overwrite the previous build?
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Old 4th May 2021, 05:05   #61448  |  Link
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The message is misleading, as there is no newer version at this time. Those who follow madshi's posts on AVS know that he's planning to implement a registration feature into future (beta) releases. We expect him to upload build 131 very soon, because 130 will expire at the end of May.
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Old 4th May 2021, 14:11   #61449  |  Link
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You're seeing a WARNING that the build WILL expire. You will know when it's expired as it will cease to work at all at that time. That will happen at the end of May. In theory, madshi will release a new beta build before that happens.
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I open a HDR 2k movie and the brightness go high automatically. It resets when i make if full screen. Is this happening cause of madVR or wmpc? Cause when i open with bsplayer, nothing happens.
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I'm wondering - do I need the new beta builds if I play only x264 content? Is 92.17 ok, or I should use beta 113 for example?

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The "betas" only have 'feature' changes that concern HDR. Build 113 also has small rendering performance changes where madshi said you could push the GPU utilization higher before it starts dropping frames, but as a caveat smooth motion crashes with it. More recent builds also had rendering changes that broke older GPU drivers/Windows versions, so can be risky too.
So if you never watch HDR and you're not running dangerously close to max GPU utilization, there is no need to use anything more recent than the 92.17 release.
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Got it, too bad there isn't any new official build since 92.17.
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There is. You just need to spend 7 to 13 grand to get it. I'm hysterical.
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Old 5th May 2021, 00:10   #61455  |  Link
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I was really surprised the first monetization of madVR was as part of a hardware project.

It would be so cheap to release a "pro" version of madVR and hardware projects, especially those involving cutting edge compute, are expensive and hard to deliver (QA, warehouses, etc.). There would be some support costs, but the per-user costs would be so much lower with a pure software business model.

madVR seems so perfect for a pure software model too, given how many people have GPUs already. An Envy is a very niche market even compared to those with 3090s/Titans/6900XTs.

There is probably something I am missing.
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There is probably something I am missing.
I doubt you missed it, the simple fact is it's not tied to hardware and thus can't be sold for 7-13K

I'm fine with things as they are more or less, the early 2010's were fun, one of the only things I'd love to have is better seeking and playback performance.
Maybe there will be some backporting eventually, I don't expect anything significant this year, some optimizations and fixes would be nice but I think Windows madVR is basically brickwalled.
Asking about a new stable build yields no answer, so that's that I guess.
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I wouldn't go that far. It's certainly taken a back seat to Envy because that's how they make their money. But madvr serves a purpose within the framework of that model. Which is to help improve the Envy. Right now the focus is on improving HDR, as it has been for the past couple years. And honestly, there have been some really nice improvements in that area in the past few builds. And more to come as the curve situation is figured out. PC development has stalled a bit at the moment as they were working on geometry shaping on the Envy (for the extreme, anyway). Now that it's implemented and the latest beta is about to expire, we'll see if focus is shifted back to the PC world for a bit. That is unknown. I would expect to see at least a new build with a new expiration at a minimum before the end of the month, but, honestly that's just a guess. I know it's not awesome to be considered the red-headed step-child of the video rendering world, but, we get fed once in a while. LOL
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Beta test releases which expire aren't actual releases though :P So if you get some use out of the tonemapping all well and good I guess. But who's to say those features won't be disabled in a new test build relegating the test build to exactly what it's intended for, testing new features. Time will tell, it's been two years now.
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It's clear now that nothing major will happen, for wharever reason they are scared sh1tless that madvr is in the way of the sales of envy. And no reg system will change that.
The current situation tells you everything: they don't even care to compile a new build to get rid of the annoying message. That's basically like spit on the face of those testers...
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Well....you can always switch to one of the madvr competitors. LMAO
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