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Sunspark · 29th July 2021, 16:21

Thanks v0lt. Out of curiosity, is it a bug that the "Properties" button gets greyed out after going into it once and one has to close the app and relaunch it in order to return to it again?

v0lt · 29th July 2021, 16:33

@Sunspark
This is not a bug. The button in the player settings is always available if there is no playback. This is due to issues with renderer sessions.
During playback, you can always configure the active video renderer in the list of active filters.

Siso · 30th July 2021, 16:56

Guys are you going to add 3dlut support to MPC video renderer?

Sunspark · 30th July 2021, 17:27

Experimenting with things last night, I noticed an edge case where if one selects madvr as the video renderer that is set to use fullscreen exclusive mode paired with the MPC video decoder (not LAV), the playback on the screen will start flashing. The solution for this particular combo is to right click on the mpc-be.exe's properties and put a checkmark on "disable fullscreen optimisations". The others are to not use fullscreen exclusive mode or the mpc decoder.

cmhrky · 30th July 2021, 19:29

Latest Turkish translation based on r6391.

Aleksoid1978 · 31st July 2021, 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siso

Guys are you going to add 3dlut support to MPC video renderer?

I never use 3dlut and don't know what is that

Klaus1189 · 31st July 2021, 12:23

I currently work on german tranlation and don't know what the difference between these two is.

Code:

STRING IDS_AG_DEFAULT		"Default"
STRING IDS_AG_DEFAULT_L		"default"

Where are these two used for example?

v0lt · 31st July 2021, 16:21

@cmhrky
Thanks. Updated in r6394.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

I currently work on german tranlation and don't know what the difference between these two is.

Code:

STRING IDS_AG_DEFAULT		"Default"
STRING IDS_AG_DEFAULT_L		"default"

The first line starts with an uppercase letter, the second with a lowercase letter.

Quote:

Where are these two used for example?

"Default" is used in the audio renderer settings.
"default" is used in filter priority settings.
Both lines can be used in the future in other places.

Siso · 31st July 2021, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksoid1978

I never use 3dlut and don't know what is that

https://www.bromptontech.com/what-is-a-3d-lut/

Madvr can use 3dluts, DisplayCal creates 3dluts too.

v0lt · 31st July 2021, 17:11

@Siso
Now you are asking to make a feature for the sake of a feature. There have already been cases when people asked for something, but after the work was done, people disappeared. These people just wanted our project to have additional functionality. It seems to them that this will improve our project, but it is not.

If you want 3DLUTs then use EVR-CP in MPC-BE or MPC-HC. Yes, it is there, you can find it by searching by code.

I have no plans to do 3DLUT in MPC VR now. There are more important tasks that I don't have enough time for. If you want to speed up the addition of 3DLUT, make a patch for our code and describe why it is necessary and important.

Klaus1189 · 31st July 2021, 17:37

Updated german translation - I have gone through the whole file.
1.) I made a few cosmetics and removed all double "", so no error should occure anymore. I made it unified.
2.) I made two strings a bit longer. Please check if it still fits the two dropdownlists - see here. If needed, please adjust length of it.
3.) I just found a small cut off text - see here: Please adjust the length of the four dropdownlists, so all four match again. It is on 200% scaling on 3840x2160.

Klaus1189 · 31st July 2021, 17:42

I forgot the link to the new translation file

v0lt · 31st July 2021, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

1.) I made a few cosmetics and removed all double "", so no error should occure anymore. I made it unified.

In the resources "STRING IDS_" as far as I remember there should be no problems with two double quotes inside a string. I would suggest leaving it as it is on the "Command line help" strings.

Problems with two quotes appear when synchronizing "BEGIN DIALOGEX ... END" blocks.

Siso · 31st July 2021, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0lt

@Siso
Now you are asking to make a feature for the sake of a feature. There have already been cases when people asked for something, but after the work was done, people disappeared. These people just wanted our project to have additional functionality. It seems to them that this will improve our project, but it is not.

If you want 3DLUTs then use EVR-CP in MPC-BE or MPC-HC. Yes, it is there, you can find it by searching by code.

I have no plans to do 3DLUT in MPC VR now. There are more important tasks that I don't have enough time for. If you want to speed up the addition of 3DLUT, make a patch for our code and describe why it is necessary and important.

I'm saying this with the intent of improving your video renderer, I just asked if you guys have any plans to add this feature. I really admire your work on mpc-be, and I think it is the best player. So in short you either will do it in time or not, it is up to you devs. Btw EVR-CP doesn't have 3dlut support.

Regards.

v0lt · 1st August 2021, 04:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siso

I'm saying this with the intent of improving your video renderer, I just asked if you guys have any plans to add this feature. I really admire your work on mpc-be, and I think it is the best player. So in short you either will do it in time or not, it is up to you devs. Btw EVR-CP doesn't have 3dlut support.

Again, you do not specify what is meant by 3DLUT support and for what purposes you want to use it (feature for feature's sake).
Therefore, you are wrong and the EVR-CP has 3DLUT support.

huhn · 1st August 2021, 06:45

the reason is calibration.
what tool can create 3D LUTs for EVR?

64³ that very close to calman madVR support.

there is also 3D LUT for tone mapping.
the benefit of this is speed and very high accuracy the
3D LUT know everything about the display peak nit gamut and corrects it unlike "normal" 3D LUT is rarely used.

Siso · 1st August 2021, 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhn

the reason is calibration.
what tool can create 3D LUTs for EVR?

64³ that very close to calman madVR support.

there is also 3D LUT for tone mapping.
the benefit of this is speed and very high accuracy the
3D LUT know everything about the display peak nit gamut and corrects it unlike "normal" 3D LUT is rarely used.

Very well said, huhn.

v0lt · 1st August 2021, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by huhn

the reason is calibration.
what tool can create 3D LUTs for EVR?

Initially, there was no question of "calibration" or "external tools". Siso requested support for 3D LUTs, which is in the EVR-CP. I don’t know what’s on his mind.

I was tired of this, I will not do 3D LUTs support. Perhaps there will be something in the future, but I cannot say what will happen.
I propose to close this topic.

Klaus1189 · 1st August 2021, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klaus1189

Updated german translation - I have gone through the whole file.
1.) I made a few cosmetics and removed all double "", so no error should occure anymore. I made it unified.
2.) I made two strings a bit longer. Please check if it still fits the two dropdownlists - see here. If needed, please adjust length of it.
3.) I just found a small cut off text - see here: Please adjust the length of the four dropdownlists, so all four match again. It is on 200% scaling on 3840x2160.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v0lt

In the resources "STRING IDS_" as far as I remember there should be no problems with two double quotes inside a string. I would suggest leaving it as it is on the "Command line help" strings.

Problems with two quotes appear when synchronizing "BEGIN DIALOGEX ... END" blocks.

I reverted the command line part. Please see 2. and 3. in my initial post.
Updated german translation

Klaus1189 · 2nd August 2021, 10:38

I downloaded 6.4.0.1 and I am not 100% happy how it looks now. Small Cosmetics, but I am sure now it will last, trust me.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NwB...ew?usp=sharing
Do not forget my begging to increase the dropdownlists:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Spc...glXZxi8bf/view

29th July 2021, 16:33	#8702 \| Link
v0lt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,968	@Sunspark This is not a bug. The button in the player settings is always available if there is no playback. This is due to issues with renderer sessions. During playback, you can always configure the active video renderer in the list of active filters. __________________ MPC-BE 1.7.0 and Nightly builds \| VideoRenderer \| ImageSource \| ScriptSource \| BassAudioSource

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	I currently work on german tranlation and don't know what the difference between these two is. Code: STRING IDS_AG_DEFAULT "Default" STRING IDS_AG_DEFAULT_L "default" Where are these two used for example?

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v0lt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,968	@Siso Now you are asking to make a feature for the sake of a feature. There have already been cases when people asked for something, but after the work was done, people disappeared. These people just wanted our project to have additional functionality. It seems to them that this will improve our project, but it is not. If you want 3DLUTs then use EVR-CP in MPC-BE or MPC-HC. Yes, it is there, you can find it by searching by code. I have no plans to do 3DLUT in MPC VR now. There are more important tasks that I don't have enough time for. If you want to speed up the addition of 3DLUT, make a patch for our code and describe why it is necessary and important. __________________ MPC-BE 1.7.0 and Nightly builds \| VideoRenderer \| ImageSource \| ScriptSource \| BassAudioSource

29th July 2021, 16:21	#8701 \| Link
Sunspark Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 471	Thanks v0lt. Out of curiosity, is it a bug that the "Properties" button gets greyed out after going into it once and one has to close the app and relaunch it in order to return to it again?

30th July 2021, 16:56	#8703 \| Link
Siso Soul Seeker Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 715	Guys are you going to add 3dlut support to MPC video renderer?

30th July 2021, 17:27	#8704 \| Link
Sunspark Registered User Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 471	Experimenting with things last night, I noticed an edge case where if one selects madvr as the video renderer that is set to use fullscreen exclusive mode paired with the MPC video decoder (not LAV), the playback on the screen will start flashing. The solution for this particular combo is to right click on the mpc-be.exe's properties and put a checkmark on "disable fullscreen optimisations". The others are to not use fullscreen exclusive mode or the mpc decoder.

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cmhrky Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 139	Latest Turkish translation based on r6391.

31st July 2021, 17:37	#8711 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Updated german translation - I have gone through the whole file. 1.) I made a few cosmetics and removed all double "", so no error should occure anymore. I made it unified. 2.) I made two strings a bit longer. Please check if it still fits the two dropdownlists - see here. If needed, please adjust length of it. 3.) I just found a small cut off text - see here: Please adjust the length of the four dropdownlists, so all four match again. It is on 200% scaling on 3840x2160.

31st July 2021, 17:42	#8712 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	I forgot the link to the new translation file

1st August 2021, 06:45	#8716 \| Link
huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,925	the reason is calibration. what tool can create 3D LUTs for EVR? 64³ that very close to calman madVR support. there is also 3D LUT for tone mapping. the benefit of this is speed and very high accuracy the 3D LUT know everything about the display peak nit gamut and corrects it unlike "normal" 3D LUT is rarely used.

2nd August 2021, 10:38	#8720 \| Link
Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	I downloaded 6.4.0.1 and I am not 100% happy how it looks now. Small Cosmetics, but I am sure now it will last, trust me. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NwB...ew?usp=sharing Do not forget my begging to increase the dropdownlists: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Spc...glXZxi8bf/view