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Old 24th November 2009, 18:11   #1  |  Link
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Badaboom yes or no?

Have Badaboom a good or bad quality. Badaboom is fast but good and what is better?
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Quality is terrible compared with x264 so don't pay for this crap.
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Old 24th November 2009, 18:53   #3  |  Link
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Agree with atak, and this test was done with abr, not crf... (you'd get better quality with crf)


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Old 24th November 2009, 19:07   #4  |  Link
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i fina badaboom good enough to do quick conversions for playing video on me iphone.
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i fina badaboom good enough to do quick conversions for playing video on me iphone.
Did you compare Badaboom against x264 with settings the encode at the same speed ???
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Old 24th November 2009, 19:34   #6  |  Link
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Ok i make a test with RipBot264 but this extrem slow and the qulity is not good. For a Video 03:50 minutes i need with the x264 profile 40 minutes. Whene i convert a Movie with 2 houres with RipBot264 i need days.
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Of course x264 will be slow, if you use slow settings

What about trying something like "--preset fast" ???
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Old 24th November 2009, 19:41   #8  |  Link
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I have use the standard settings and output mkv.
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I have use the standard settings and output mkv.
So you want "fast" settings, but you used "medium" (standard) settings. And now you complain about speed?
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Old 24th November 2009, 20:00   #10  |  Link
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Yes but with medium settings the quality is not good. With fast settings....??
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Yes but with medium settings the quality is not good. With fast settings....??
Of course "medium" settings will deliver worse quality than "slow" settings. And "fast" settings will be even worse. If you want speed, you must sacrifice some quality.

However claiming that x264's quality with "medium" settings was "no good" is blasphemy. Especially if we keep in mind how horrible Badaboom looks!
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Of course "medium" settings will deliver worse quality than "slow" settings. And "fast" settings will be even worse. If you want speed, you must sacrifice some quality.

However claiming that x264's quality with "medium" settings is "no good" is blasphemy. Especially if we keep in mind how horrible Badaboom looks!
He's probably encoding at very low bitrates with x264 and comparing to high bitrates with Badaboom...
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There is a tradeoff between quality and speed. Choose one or the other or something in the middle.

There is no question that x264 max quality is better than badaboom's max quality

If your current results aren't good enough another option is to use a lower crf value or higher bitrate too
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I make a new test with 2-pass with 8000 bitrate. I hope with this settings looks better.
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He's probably encoding at very low bitrates with x264 and comparing to high bitrates with Badaboom...
By default CRF22 is used in Ripbot264. However if you change to 2-pass then default kbps is 1024. Scoty just USE default CRF22. DON'T USE 2-pass!
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I have make default with the first test but the Video looks nod good.
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I have make default with the first test but the Video looks nod good.
You definitely do something wrong! CRF@22 with default 4.0 HIGH profile should give excellent quality. BTW what does 'nod good' mean in terms of quality? Show us Log from Logs folder.
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I have make default with the first test but the Video looks nod good.
Repeating it over and over again doesn't make it any better

Most important make sure that you only compare files of identical size when judging quality!
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Ok i make a test with RipBot264 but this extrem slow and the qulity is not good. For a Video 03:50 minutes i need with the x264 profile 40 minutes. Whene i convert a Movie with 2 houres with RipBot264 i need days.

I get around 20 FPS on a quad core Phenom 955 with x264 medium settings, CRF 23, progressive source to 720p output. For 1080p output I still get 11-12 FPS.

Maybe it's time to get a faster CPU if a 2 hour movie takes days to encode at those settings.
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Maybe it's time to get a faster CPU if a 2 hour movie takes days to encode at those settings.
Exactly. You should finally dump your 'Pentium 4'. You can buy Athlon X4 for less than 100 euro these days.
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