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Old 18th June 2021, 12:27   #19141  |  Link
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How many fps in 4K encoding do you encode with your Ryzen?

Has anyone done the test with a Threadripper 32 or 64?
Hi, I have to admit I haven't used the Ryzen on any encoding recently, and no 4K for even longer, and it so depends on the settings & filters you use, that can affect things so much, but it's reasonably impressive.

Some 4K encodes can take day's, and it's a bit of an anxious wait, hoping nothing goes wrong, and it's all been a waste of time.

So just re reading your 1st post, you state that your future CPU needs to process 4K x265 @ 60fps....that's a lot...

It would probably be cheaper to have 2 5900X's, (than a Threadripper) and use Distributed Encoding, you'd have 32 cores crunching thru this..

I think I need to rethink how I process 4K footage, unless it needs some sort of denoising or cleanup, it probably doesn't warrant the time it takes to encode them, if it's not really necessary.

If you need to remove video, remove or convert audio tracks and unneeded subtitles, there are other substantially quicker ways to achieve that.

There might be some older post's from those who are rich enough to be able to afford a 32 or 64 core Threadripper setup.
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Hi, I have to admit I haven't used the Ryzen on any encoding recently, and no 4K for even longer, and it so depends on the settings & filters you use, that can affect things so much, but it's reasonably impressive.

Some 4K encodes can take day's, and it's a bit of an anxious wait, hoping nothing goes wrong, and it's all been a waste of time.

So just re reading your 1st post, you state that your future CPU needs to process 4K x265 @ 60fps....that's a lot...

It would probably be cheaper to have 2 5900X's, (than a Threadripper) and use Distributed Encoding, you'd have 32 cores crunching thru this..

I think I need to rethink how I process 4K footage, unless it needs some sort of denoising or cleanup, it probably doesn't warrant the time it takes to encode them, if it's not really necessary.

If you need to remove video, remove or convert audio tracks and unneeded subtitles, there are other substantially quicker ways to achieve that.

There might be some older post's from those who are rich enough to be able to afford a 32 or 64 core Threadripper setup.
4K @ 15/20 fps
Here h265 4K to h265 1080p



With Threadreapper

We now move into the world of video encoding, wherein you are at the whims of the encoder itself. As you can see here, the x.265 encoder demands clock speed almost as much as raw core count, with the 3960X and 3970X outperforming our tweaked 3990X.
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_...nster_review/7
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@ frencher

Do you have a link handy for that x265 benchmark? Searching brings up multiple hits and different tools.

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Do you have a link handy for that x265 benchmark? Searching brings up multiple hits and different tools.

Thanks!
The benchmark link is just above the screenshot

Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX à 64 cores / 128 threads @ 5489 dollars
Look here: https://www.tomshardware.fr/les-ryze...le-marche-diy/
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That benchmark does not show full potential of 3990X!
In distributed encoding mode 64 core CPU will be always noticeable faster than OC 32 core. Check my x265 FHD Benchmark. Divide FPS by 4 to get estimated speed for 4k resolution.
https://forum.pclab.pl/topic/1184884...fhd-benchmark/

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I mean the actual benchmark program itself. I looked at the link you posted and I'm either blind or they make it exceedingly difficult to find the benchmark program.

edit: Just realized that may not be your benchmark run. Duh.

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That benchmark does not show full potential of 3990X!
In distributed encoding mode 64 core CPU will be always noticeable faster than OC 32 core. Check my x265 FHD Benchmark. Divide FPS by 4 to get estimated speed for 4k resolution.
https://forum.pclab.pl/topic/1184884...fhd-benchmark/
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Would you have a screenshot with x265 FHD Benchmark and your processor.
Thank you.
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I mean the actual benchmark program itself. I looked at the link you posted and I'm either blind or they make it exceedingly difficult to find the benchmark program.

edit: Just realized that may not be your benchmark run. Duh.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nm5n7x...chmark.7z/file
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Would you have a screenshot with x265 FHD Benchmark and your processor.
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i7 3930k



Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.2GHz ( 6C / 12T )

y4m [info]: 1920x1080 fps 50/1 i420p8 sar 1:1 unknown frame count
raw [info]: output file: NUL
x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.2+15-a18ab7656c30
x265 [info]: build info [Windows][GCC 6.2.0][64 bit] 8bit
x265 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX
x265 [info]: Main Still Picture profile, Level-4.1 (Main tier)
x265 [info]: Thread pool created using 12 threads
x265 [info]: Slices : 1
x265 [info]: frame threads / pool features : 3 / wpp(17 rows)
x265 [info]: Coding QT: max CU size, min CU size : 64 / 8
x265 [info]: Residual QT: max TU size, max depth : 32 / 1 inter / 1 intra
x265 [info]: ME / range / subpel / merge : hex / 57 / 2 / 2
x265 [info]: Keyframe min / max / scenecut / bias: 50 / 500 / 40 / 5.00
x265 [info]: Lookahead / bframes / badapt : 20 / 4 / 2
x265 [info]: b-pyramid / weightp / weightb : 1 / 1 / 0
x265 [info]: References / ref-limit cu / depth : 3 / on / on
x265 [info]: AQ: mode / str / qg-size / cu-tree : 1 / 1.0 / 32 / 1
x265 [info]: Rate Control / qCompress : CRF-28.0 / 0.60
x265 [info]: tools: rd=3 psy-rd=2.00 rskip signhide tmvp strong-intra-smoothing
x265 [info]: tools: lslices=6 deblock sao

encoded 2500 frames in 202.16s (12.37 fps), 7025.74 kbps, Avg QP:37.21

Results please send to: x264.fhd.benchmark@gmail.com
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4K @ 15/20 fps
Here h265 4K to h265 1080p


That screenshot doesn't really prove a thing !!!

You don't mention what settings you're using, or filters, just "h265 4K to h265 1080p", and is that with the 3930K ???

Who knows..and why aren't you using Distributed Encoding ??

Tell me your settings, and I will do a test on my 3950X for you..
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i7 3930k



Intel Core i7-3930K @ 3.2GHz ( 6C / 12T )

y4m [info]: 1920x1080 fps 50/1 i420p8 sar 1:1 unknown frame count
raw [info]: output file: NUL
x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.2+15-a18ab7656c30
x265 [info]: build info [Windows][GCC 6.2.0][64 bit] 8bit
x265 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 AVX
x265 [info]: Main Still Picture profile, Level-4.1 (Main tier)
x265 [info]: Thread pool created using 12 threads
x265 [info]: Slices : 1
x265 [info]: frame threads / pool features : 3 / wpp(17 rows)
x265 [info]: Coding QT: max CU size, min CU size : 64 / 8
x265 [info]: Residual QT: max TU size, max depth : 32 / 1 inter / 1 intra
x265 [info]: ME / range / subpel / merge : hex / 57 / 2 / 2
x265 [info]: Keyframe min / max / scenecut / bias: 50 / 500 / 40 / 5.00
x265 [info]: Lookahead / bframes / badapt : 20 / 4 / 2
x265 [info]: b-pyramid / weightp / weightb : 1 / 1 / 0
x265 [info]: References / ref-limit cu / depth : 3 / on / on
x265 [info]: AQ: mode / str / qg-size / cu-tree : 1 / 1.0 / 32 / 1
x265 [info]: Rate Control / qCompress : CRF-28.0 / 0.60
x265 [info]: tools: rd=3 psy-rd=2.00 rskip signhide tmvp strong-intra-smoothing
x265 [info]: tools: lslices=6 deblock sao

encoded 2500 frames in 202.16s (12.37 fps), 7025.74 kbps, Avg QP:37.21

Results please send to: x264.fhd.benchmark@gmail.com
We seem to have a bit of a pissing contest going on here...I get it, you both have pretty basic cpu's.

Also, what's the go with that VERY old x265 build ???

x265 [info]: HEVC encoder version 2.2+15-a18ab7656c30

"We're" up to 3.5 + 10 !!!!, that could even make a difference !!!
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RipBot264 v1.26.1

Hey guy's,

So now that Atak has provided us with some recent updates, you still have to run the updates to get to the current version.

So I have started with 1.26.0 from page 1, and then downloaded & installed ALL the available updates, so that you can just start using v1.26.1, straight off.

So anyone interested, it's here for the taking, this is legit, and updated, untouched v1.26.1.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ox6da...1.26.1.7z/file

However, if you would like to try my very modified v1.26.1, that has the majority of the components that RipBot uses, all running with the latest available versions & builds, not to mention many, many, more filters, for DeHaloing, Denoising, DeBlocking, Deinterlacing, etc. I've been working on this for a few months, and have been using without issue.

So if you want to give that a try, then grab it here :-

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DO NOT forget to read the "instructions" !!!!

And check out the Tools listing to see what you get, and most of the "extra" filters are found under the "Custom Script" drop down.
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"We're" up to 3.5 + 10 !!!!, that could even make a difference !!!
Plot twist: newer builds are even slower !!!
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Memory Problem Since Latest Update

Hi Atak,

I've been having a memory error from x265 since the latest update:
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x265_x64.exe - Application Error
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The instruction at 0x00007FF701D6E902 referenced memory at 0x0000000000020000. The memory could not be written.

Click on OK to terminate the program
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Same VM system that has been running for years with ECC memory. Did not install any windows updates in the last week or so. Only the RB update has occurred, but I'm not sure if it was this last update, or the update before that.
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Just to be 100% sure ,can you run memtest on that PC?
https://www.memtest.org/#downiso

Maybe you are running out of memory? (physical/virtual on that VM)

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That screenshot doesn't really prove a thing !!!

You don't mention what settings you're using, or filters, just "h265 4K to h265 1080p", and is that with the 3930K ???

Who knows..and why aren't you using Distributed Encoding ??

Tell me your settings, and I will do a test on my 3950X for you..
I will have specified if I had changed my config (I7 3930k) and I just applied a resize from {GPU} 4k h265 to Full HD h265 (1080p).
Indeed I will be interested in testing on your 3950X.
I did not find tutorials for distributed encoding
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Plot twist: newer builds are even slower !!!
I guess it would depend on your CPU instruction set,

Either SSE*, AVX, or AVX2, and another problem might be in a DE setup, if you had an AVX2 CPU on the client, and some servers were a mixture of SSE* or AVX, would there be a conflict or a problem ??

Your latest update brought the x265 build up to 5.9, but what instruction set do you use, to be more compatible with the different systems that users would have, you'd probably have to go for an SSE* type.
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I will have specified if I had changed my config (I7 3930k) and I just applied a resize from {GPU} 4k h265 to Full HD h265 (1080p).
Indeed I will be interested in testing on your 3950X.
I did not find tutorials for distributed encoding
OK, so if it's just a simple resize, I'd be happy to do a quick test on one of my 4K movies, but I will be using CPU decoding instead, but I might try the GPU option, not that that should affect the encoding fps's.

So give be a couple of days, I WILL get back to you, either here or PM.

As for DE, there aren't any active tutorials to be found, but it's kinda straight forward, there just a couple of settings to change & enable, and you're away.

Do you have more than 1 PC ???, if not, you can still use it on 1, and it will increase speeds.
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