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Old 1st November 2024, 02:30   #841  |  Link
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Been validating my library and I ran into a potentially invalid entry:

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2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6876 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / Keys in Keyfile: 157564 keys - KeyFile: C:\Users\XXX\AppData\Roaming\aacs\KEYDB.cfg
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6876 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / Disc with ID >C3B7077E9480ACE42F6B38A8717322018FCDAC7B< is already in file - need to compare the details
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6877 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / VUK different - KeyDbVUK >5A0766CA9BEB6291BFE2BB021A3AF8F5< NewVUK >6FF3A42C467FBB07D0712A3DDAA4BC36<
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6877 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / DATE different - KeyDbDATE >2023-08-24< NewDATE >2023-05-04<
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6877 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / VOLUMEID different - KeyDbVolumeId >2B68A3481671A871C8865FA7FEE7990B< NewVolumeId >6D7E8A629B38E49557A3055285730AC0<
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6877 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / COMMENT different - KeyDbCOMMENT >(LEGACY) (NOTVALIDATED) (BD)< NewCOMMENT >MKBv81/FindVUK 1.79<
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6877 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / UNITKEYS different - KeyDbUnitKeys >1-0x9878A83C6A42116BFCB491716B127419< NewUnitKeys >1-0x75F59CE2FDEDEB9A9432F0B89F496716<
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6877 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite / KEYDB: entry for this disc already present in keydb-file
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6878 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite /  >> but VUK is NOT identical!!
2024-10-31 20:25:19 # 6878 # [I] findvuk_showresult / _KeyDB_CheckIfWrite /  >> The new VUK has been successfully validated, please report in the forum (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=171298) that the old entry is definitely wrong!

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Old 5th November 2024, 01:42   #842  |  Link
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Sorry to double-post but I also have a suggestion for the next version of FindVUK for better Linux/Wine support: When ejecting a disc the program currently checks the drive type (via GetDriveType) and does different eject behavior between "CD-ROM" and "removable" types. For removable types it does The following IOCTL's in order:

FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
IOCTL_STORAGE_MEDIA_REMOVAL
IOCTL_STORAGE_EJECT_MEDIA

However, for CD-ROM types it only does IOCTL_STORAGE_EJECT_MEDIA. In Wine at least the FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME command is also needed for ejecting to happen properly. (FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME can be called too but it's just a stub in Wine.) IOCTL_STORAGE_MEDIA_REMOVAL would also be required for drives with door locks (it calls the CDROM_LOCKDOOR Linux ioctl under the hood), but that command throws an error for me so it might make sense to just call that IOCTL without checking if it succeeds or not.

If this can be fixed it would make ValidateDisc mode work as expected on Linux instead of erroring out after every disc.



EDIT: There also appears to be a bug in the FindVUK program/website: If a UHD disc has a verified UK only and I try to reverify with VID/MK/VUK, it says the new VUK validates and uploads but the full entry with VID/MK/VUK doesn't get put in the full KEYDB file downloaded from the site. I have to do a manual full synchronize with my local KEYDB file before it gets uploaded and starts appearing in the download version.

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Old 10th November 2024, 00:49   #843  |  Link
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Sorry to double-post but I also have a suggestion for the next version of FindVUK for better Linux/Wine support: When ejecting a disc the program currently checks the drive type (via GetDriveType) and does different eject behavior between "CD-ROM" and "removable" types. For removable types it does The following IOCTL's in order:

FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
IOCTL_STORAGE_MEDIA_REMOVAL
IOCTL_STORAGE_EJECT_MEDIA

However, for CD-ROM types it only does IOCTL_STORAGE_EJECT_MEDIA. In Wine at least the FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME command is also needed for ejecting to happen properly. (FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME can be called too but it's just a stub in Wine.) IOCTL_STORAGE_MEDIA_REMOVAL would also be required for drives with door locks (it calls the CDROM_LOCKDOOR Linux ioctl under the hood), but that command throws an error for me so it might make sense to just call that IOCTL without checking if it succeeds or not.

If this can be fixed it would make ValidateDisc mode work as expected on Linux instead of erroring out after every disc.



EDIT: There also appears to be a bug in the FindVUK program/website: If a UHD disc has a verified UK only and I try to reverify with VID/MK/VUK, it says the new VUK validates and uploads but the full entry with VID/MK/VUK doesn't get put in the full KEYDB file downloaded from the site. I have to do a manual full synchronize with my local KEYDB file before it gets uploaded and starts appearing in the download version.
I'll take care of both of your posts during the next days
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Old 10th November 2024, 05:34   #844  |  Link
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I'll take care of both of your posts during the next days
Thanks.

Also I think I sent this in a PM but the site's been acting up for me recently so I don't know if it went through: I somehow accidentally validated an incorrect UK for a disc when trying to add some info for it. Can this disc be fixed to use these keys?

Code:
0xA6F5AC52B2EDC7BA254CAD6D491799EEC1EADC03 = BAD_BOYS_FOR_LIFE (Bad Boys for Life - 4K Ultra HD) | D | 2020-02-12 | M | 0x864BFC8833D4A106DE6ACD240AEB9CF8 | I | 0xA7BB091D19F7C0B3A1880CC4BDE007BE | V | 0xC2B9CEAC8512D8C9E00912D89FBC51EC | U | 1-0x452519DA5B47634BE7D925E06B91F64F ; MKBv68/BEE/UHD/FindVUK 1.79
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Old 12th November 2024, 01:40   #845  |  Link
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Hey.

FYI:

I've noted that when using FindVUK via wine from Linux, the generated entries have a different VolumeSize than that used when it's run from Windows.
And it seems further, that this results in entries being actually overwritten in the Online DB?!

For example for one particular BD:
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Wine/Linux: 70144229376 B / 34250112 blocks
Windows:    7014481920 B / 3425040 blocks
Inspecting the UDF filesystem directly gives the following:
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blocksize=2048
blocks=34250688
usedblocks=34250112
freeblocks=0
behindblocks=0
numfiles=325
numdirs=33
udfrev=2.50
udfwriterev=2.50
lastblock=34250688
integrity=closed
accesstype=readonly
softwriteprotect=no
hardwriteprotect=no
start=16, blocks=3, type=VRS
start=32, blocks=16, type=MVDS
start=64, blocks=1, type=LVID
start=256, blocks=1, type=ANCHOR
start=288, blocks=34250112, type=PSPACE
start=34250431, blocks=1, type=ANCHOR
start=34250432, blocks=16, type=RVDS
start=34250687, blocks=1, type=ANCHOR
(Numbers are in blocks.)

One sees that the partition space entry is 34250112 blocks long, exactly what Linux gives.

Windows however gives exactly 34250112 + 288 blocks, so it also counts in the leading sections by which the PSPACE is shifted.

IMO, Linux is right, as it makes no sense to count it only the leading parts, but not the trailing ones either (which would give the actual overall size of the fs).

I even found one post somewhere (though I cannot find again) where it was said that would be a Windows 10 bug that might have been fixed later (cannot check that).

Anyway... not sure whether FindVUK could use a call under Windows to get the true full size of the fs (above that be the 34250688) and whether that's then correct under Windows. Even if, that would of course "invalidate" all current (size) entries.

One could also add another config option that allows people under Linux to specify a program which calculates the size Windows would show.
But that might be overkill (and not so easy, if a medium would have multiple PSPACES - not sure what Windows does there).

So probably just live with what we have and get changing sizes every now and then.

Cheers,
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Old 19th November 2024, 03:53   #846  |  Link
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When using FindVUK on a UHD disc, PassKey was able to find a UK for a disc. However, the disc in question has three UKs and FindVUK/PassKey only seems to find one of the keys. MakeMKV doesn't seem to work with only incomplete UK lists, even if it can decrypt some of the streams. Are there any files/dumps I can send to help debug this?

DiscID: 0x0E2BF198E8008FD5CA109C3D7ADADEEB725F4998 (Twilight of the Warriors: Walled In)

EDIT: Nevermind, the disc only has one UK and VLC can play it just fine with the keydb. Looks like this is a bug in MakeMKV. I'll report it there.

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Old 19th November 2024, 04:50   #847  |  Link
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As I replied in your thread on makemkv forum, it's not a bug in makemkv. For whatever reason, Mike chose to only support keydb entries with vuks not unit keys.

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Old 28th November 2024, 01:54   #848  |  Link
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FindVUK is triggering a virus warning by Windows security, and new downloads are currently blocked as they are being served by HTTP, not HTTPS. Anyone else experiencing something similar?
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Old 28th November 2024, 02:22   #849  |  Link
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Downloads have always been plain HTTP only, though it would perhaps make sense to list SHA512 sums in the main post for verifying new versions.
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Old 28th November 2024, 08:52   #850  |  Link
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Any cryptographic hash supplied over HTTP would have the same issue with verification and would effectively be no better than an error checksum. If you're that concerned about security the two options are either HTTPS (easy) or code/download signing (complicated).

Regardless the current security warnings are just false positives. If you're concerned your downloading is being tampered with my v1.79 FindVUK.exe file has the SHA1 hash:
0e422651601af06cb2e352b2784007f01c74e36a

and aacskeys.exe has the hash:
5533db69cde95ea16cb2e11fbb6959370f0af613
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Any cryptographic hash supplied over HTTP would have the same issue with verification and would effectively be no better than an error checksum. If you're that concerned about security the two options are either HTTPS (easy) or code/download signing (complicated).

Regardless the current security warnings are just false positives. If you're concerned your downloading is being tampered with my v1.79 FindVUK.exe file has the SHA1 hash:
0e422651601af06cb2e352b2784007f01c74e36a

and aacskeys.exe has the hash:
5533db69cde95ea16cb2e11fbb6959370f0af613
Thanks for these. They match my current downloads... it's a small bit of relief.
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Any cryptographic hash supplied over HTTP would have the same issue with verification and would effectively be no better than an error checksum.

That's why I've said "list SHA512 sums in the main post" (i.e. here on doom9).

There you have https, and that's the original "trust" (on first use) point, where we all were introduced to the upstream author of FindVUK (nalor).
You won't get any better trust chain than that.
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Old 6th December 2024, 18:02   #853  |  Link
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False positive or not, Windows is being VERY annoying and won't let me keep the file at all.

Downloaded an earlier version that works but it wants me to update and when it does, same issue. Windows just won't open, says there's a virus period.

Something is up and Windows is being completely asanine about it. And considering you can't use the program without updating I'd say this is a huge issue that needs to be fixed.

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False positive or not, Windows is being VERY annoying and won't let me keep the file at all.

Downloaded an earlier version that works but it wants me to update and when it does, same issue. Windows just won't open, says there's a virus period.

Something is up and Windows is being completely asanine about it. And considering you can't use the program without updating I'd say this is a huge issue that needs to be fixed.
You can find these lines in the config/FindVUK.ini file:

Code:
[FindVUK_AutoUpdate]
AutoUpdateEnabled = 1
Changing the 1 to 0 should stop the auto-updating.
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Old 7th December 2024, 01:35   #855  |  Link
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False positive or not, Windows is being VERY annoying and won't let me keep the file at all.

Downloaded an earlier version that works but it wants me to update and when it does, same issue. Windows just won't open, says there's a virus period.

Something is up and Windows is being completely asanine about it. And considering you can't use the program without updating I'd say this is a huge issue that needs to be fixed.
If you regularly use tools that mess with cryptographic properties in the system, you have to be ready to whitelist things or temporarily disable the protection entirely (I don't recommend that).

FindVUK is regularly reported as a virus, probably by content owners, and then it takes a bit to get it untagged as such again. Even deeper tools like Mimikatz get it worse.
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Hello, this is my first time using this utility and I attempted to run this with the trial version of DVDFab 13.0.2.5 and it generated the following
Code:
0x2637EE08F12D2647DD22A9663C5733C5B7741C95 = PULP_FICTION (Pulp Fiction) | D | 2022-08-16 | U | 1-0xA7E207B4BA878F397A346F00F1F74B47 ; MKBv77/BEE/UHD/FindVUK 1.79
During that initial run where it generated the key it logged
Code:
2025-01-22 21:58:12 # 300966 # [I] findvuk_validate / FVVAL_GetAllDriveDetails / Drive is detected as 'REAL BLURAY' drive
2025-01-22 21:58:12 # 300968 # [I] findvuk_validate / _CheckAndAddDriveToDriveList / Drive is already in the KnownDrivesList
2025-01-22 21:58:12 # 301004 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / M2TS files found >113<
2025-01-22 21:58:12 # 301004 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / M2TS files found >113<
2025-01-22 21:58:12 # 301004 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_IsFileEncryptedv2 / Check if file >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< is encrypted (UDF >0<)
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301953 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / File >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< is encrypted! (Size >93235200<)
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / Decrypted first unit of file >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< with UnitKey >1<
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / Decrypted first unit of file >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< with UnitKey >1<
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / All UnitKeys are VALID! No need to test other files
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / All UnitKeys are VALID! No need to test other files
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] findvuk_validate / _Validate / Validation successful! UnitKeys are valid!!
but I have been unable to reproduce these results. I also attempted using the new KEYDB.cfg with MakeMKV to test and it was unable to decrypt using it as well.

When I try to do `AACSkeys` command I get
Code:
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22753 # [I] findvuk_validate / FVVAL_GetAllDriveDetails / Drive is detected as 'REAL BLURAY' drive
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22754 # [I] findvuk_validate / _CheckAndAddDriveToDriveList / Drive is already in the KnownDrivesList
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22755 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / M2TS files found >113<
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22755 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / M2TS files found >113<
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22755 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_IsFileEncryptedv2 / Check if file >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< is encrypted (UDF >0<)
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22756 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / File >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< is encrypted! (Size >93235200<)
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22756 # [E] findvuk_validate / _Validate / ERROR! Validation of VUK failed >#BRAACS_ListError<
2025-01-22 22:20:34 # 22756 # [I] findvuk_validate / FVVAL_Mode_FindVUK / Finished with result >-2<
So I believe that the key that was submitted may be incorrect. I tried to generate it again (after a computer restart) and it logs a new unit key that leads to a failure.
Code:
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66480 # [I] findvuk_validate / FVVAL_GetAllDriveDetails / Drive is detected as 'REAL BLURAY' drive
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66482 # [I] findvuk_validate / _CheckAndAddDriveToDriveList / Drive is already in the KnownDrivesList
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66525 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / M2TS files found >113<
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66525 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / M2TS files found >113<
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66526 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_IsFileEncryptedv2 / Check if file >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< is encrypted (UDF >0<)
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66526 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / File >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< is encrypted! (Size >93235200<)
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66527 # [E] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_DecryptUnit / Decryption failed
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66527 # [E] bluray_aacs / _AACS_ValidateUnitKey / DecryptUnit failed >#BRAACS_UnitKeyInvalid<
2025-01-22 22:18:43 # 66527 # [E] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / ERROR! Decryption of file >E:\BDMV\STREAM\00174.m2ts< failed with all possible UnitKeys!
... (repeats with many m2ts files)
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82539 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / Potentially invalid UnitKey >6985E6265F62D27535D2AAAFFC88EC05<
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82539 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / Potentially invalid UnitKey >6985E6265F62D27535D2AAAFFC88EC05<
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82539 # [I] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / Unfortunately no candidate to get a correct unit key >6985E6265F62D27535D2AAAFFC88EC05<
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82539 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / Unfortunately no candidate to get a correct unit key >6985E6265F62D27535D2AAAFFC88EC05<
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82539 # [W] bluray_aacs / BRAACS_ValidateUnitKeys / There are still 113 files that cannot be decoded with the provided unit keys!
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82539 # [W] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / There are still 113 files that cannot be decoded with the provided unit keys!
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82540 # [W] findvuk_validate / _Validate / Validation failed - VUK/UnitKeys are INVALID!!!!!!!
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82540 # [W] findvuk_validate / _Validate / Please report this in the Doom9 forum and attach the logfile!
2025-01-22 22:18:59 # 82540 # [I] findvuk_validate / FVVAL_Mode_FindVUK / Finished with result >-2<
Is there any way for me to test if the initial key it got was valid?
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Findvuk validatedisc option can validate the unit key. But this won't help you with makemkv as that requires a vuk.

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Is there any way for me to test if the initial key it got was valid?
When FindVUK uses DVDFab to extract a disk's Unit Keys, it validates those keys before uploading a new KEYDB meta-entry. You will notice your log says
Code:
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] findvuk_validate / _GenericCallback / All UnitKeys are VALID! No need to test other files
2025-01-22 21:58:13 # 301955 # [I] findvuk_validate / _Validate / Validation successful! UnitKeys are valid!!
So this Unit Key is valid .

The reason why you are now struggling with AACSkeys is almost certainly because AACS bus encryption is still active. I believe DVDFab will also have extracted the disk's "Read Device Key" (RDK), which is used to reverse bus encryption. Bus encryption must be removed from the media content before you can attempt to decrypt the movie using the Unit Key.
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The reason why you are now struggling with AACSkeys is almost certainly because AACS bus encryption is still active. I believe DVDFab will also have extracted the disk's "Read Device Key" (RDK), which is used to reverse bus encryption. Bus encryption must be removed from the media content before you can attempt to decrypt the movie using the Unit Key.
Hmm I see, I ran the VID/RDK program from the forums as well so I do have a copy of those available to me. I was under the impression that libredrive would remove the bus encryption (both my drives have the firmware flashed on them and I can see the step about enabling it in the logs), I wonder if that failed? The logs indicate that was a success but maybe there was an issue somewhere. It seems like the Key was updated by someone else as it now seems to have a full entry in KEYDB.cfg instead of just the Unit Key I showed above so now when I tried I didn't run into any issues accessing the disc.
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