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Old 6th October 2018, 21:08   #53021  |  Link
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I do not see that with my 2080 Ti, no stuttering even running NGU very high chroma and luma (note I think chroma high is a better option when not testing). I can even turn on all the upscaling refinement options at the same time without any issues. This is with 1080p -> 2160p.
Can you test with 720p -> 2160p too?
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And then set it back to "Adaptive" instead of "Optimal power".
Thanks just switched it back, but still stuttering unfortunately. Also tried the clean driver installation which fixed some other gaming related problems but not the stuttering.

Does anyone know if Nvidia game overlay or Xbox game bar can cause any issue with MadVR when enabled?
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Old 7th October 2018, 00:15   #53023  |  Link
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You need to look at your clocks. You say the performance is fine when you lower your settings.. I think that's your answer right there. Post your OSD, ideally with both the problematic settings and slighter lower settings that work well also but look at taskman/gpu-Z etc. Asmodian can confirm if your settings for that content yield the same results.. FYI NGU very high can be extremely demanding.

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Old 7th October 2018, 04:33   #53024  |  Link
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Can you test with 720p -> 2160p too?
I see ~35ms rendering times with 720p -> 2160p at full crazy settings.
chroma: NGU very high
luma: NGU very high -> very high -> SSIM1D LL
chroma: NGU med -> low
Every upscaling refinement option enabled except SuperRes. ED1 dithering, no smooth motion, no artifact removal options, and no trade quality for performance options. With all artifact removal options enabled I start seeing dropped frames and I am just on the edge, but not dropping frames, with only reduce random noise disabled (23.976 fps).

At my normal settings I get ~17.5ms rendering times.

I did this testing at stock settings (1950 MHz), except the power limit has been doubled with a hardware mod. I don't think this has a big impact on madVR but it might have some. madVR also really likes a memory overclock so I get quite a bit better performance with an overclock.

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Does anyone know if Nvidia game overlay or Xbox game bar can cause any issue with MadVR when enabled?
Yes, I know the game bar does cause issues with madVR. It causes issues with many things. I don't know about Nvidia's game overlay but I assume it would also cause issues.

edit: Hmm, I am not sure about the game bar, I was thinking about "game mode".
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Old 7th October 2018, 06:43   #53025  |  Link
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First time I've had my 1060 in the open right whilst playing video and noticed NGU AA very high making the GPU chirp away high is a lot less noticeable than very high.
Wonder if there's any cards that don't do this.. I got a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 6GB.
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My AMD Radeon HD 7970 chirps on NGU Sharp high but not on NGU Sharp very high
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Old 7th October 2018, 08:03   #53027  |  Link
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Right now I use fully updated Windows 10 x64 1607-14393 LTSB for OS and I used NTLite free demo/edition to cleanly and surgically remove Game Bar + all related bloatware. I have ZERO issues with madVR, playback and games. But 1607 is getting old and 1809 LTSC is out. Has anyone tried it (as a fresh OS install) with madVR? Any issues with reported frame skippage, etc?
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Updated my main machine to 1809 and have no issues to report with aforementioned 1060 using 416.16 but this is just regarding simple playback (no HDR, no custom resolutions)
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as soon as I set highlight recovery strength to anything else other than 'none' my picture turns black & white. does anyone know why?

using madVR 0.92.17 hdrMeasure3 test build (but I already had this problem with earlier versions as well). rest of my setup --> signature
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Same here,, happens with 92.15 too.
GTX660, software decoding.

Probably DirectCompute related.
And same here with Measue4 as well (see my signature for details).
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Can anyone confirm this - using any of the error diffusion ED1 or ED2, gives you often 5-6 ms of spikes in max stats rendering?

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First time I've had my 1060 in the open right whilst playing video and noticed NGU AA very high making the GPU chirp away high is a lot less noticeable than very high.
Wonder if there's any cards that don't do this.. I got a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 6GB.
The fan is likely hitting higher speeds. A higher GTX would probably complain less about very high. I am using very high with a GTX 1050 Ti at 1080p. Using a custom fan profile in MSI Afterburner keeps the fan at idle, so very high is putting a lot of stress on the GPU, but it isn't getting as hot as I would expect.

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Can anyone confirm this - using any of the error diffusion ED1 or ED2, gives you often 5-6 ms of spikes in max stats rendering?
Haven't seen it. Try reducing other settings. The load could be becoming too heavy.
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Haven't seen it. Try reducing other settings. The load could be becoming too heavy.
The average rendering time is ~ 13 ms, I doubt it is too high.
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Is it a 4K source?
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First time I've had my 1060 in the open right whilst playing video and noticed NGU AA very high making the GPU chirp away high is a lot less noticeable than very high.
Wonder if there's any cards that don't do this.. I got a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 6GB.
nothing with my KFA² GeForce GTX 1060 EXOC.

i even stopped the CPU fan to make sure.
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Is it a 4K source?
1080p blu-ray encode. The spikes are only shown in max stats, not in average stats.
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Weird. I'd have to check to see if I notice any odd spikes.
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stuff like this is relative normal nothing to worry about. as long as you don't drop frames.
could be something simple as changing power states.
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stuff like this is relative normal nothing to worry about. as long as you don't drop frames.
could be something simple as changing power states.
I have no dropped frames, I think it is kinda weird.
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any ideas why the picture changes to black and white for me as soon as I set "highlight recovery strength" to anything else than 'none'?
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