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Old 17th September 2025, 15:20   #1001  |  Link
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Link worked for me and download keydb_red.zip.
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Old 17th September 2025, 15:22   #1002  |  Link
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Honestly really incredible - when I check the source of the site and find timestamps from 2018 .... unbelievable how long this thing is running already.
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Old 17th September 2025, 16:01   #1003  |  Link
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It's awesome work you do!
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Old 17th September 2025, 16:32   #1004  |  Link
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Link worked for me and download keydb_red.zip.
https://fvonline-db.bplaced.net/fv_download.php?reduced gives me a 404.
https://fvonline-db.bplaced.net/ gives me a 404.
https://www.bplaced.net/ works.
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Old 17th September 2025, 16:56   #1005  |  Link
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You need to use http:// and not https://
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Old 17th September 2025, 16:58   #1006  |  Link
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They're using a browser that automatically forces HTTPS for links. Which no workie. You have to set an exclusion or use a different browser.
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Old 17th September 2025, 17:04   #1007  |  Link
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Hmm... I get a 404 on that.
It seems to be working for me, maybe it just needed some time to update?
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Old 17th September 2025, 17:07   #1008  |  Link
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They're using a browser that automatically forces HTTPS for links. Which no workie. You have to set an exclusion or use a different browser.
Good try but not true. FireFox shows HTTP. It just prompts, first.

PS: https://www.bplaced.net/ does work.

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Old 17th September 2025, 17:11   #1009  |  Link
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sorting stabilized
Initially I only sorted by VolumeLabel when creating the file - but when there are multiple entries with the same VolumeLabel, the resulting order was undetermined. So I've added a 2nd criteria to sort by DiscId as 2nd priority.
As result the order of the entries is hopefully stable now
Thanks, though I think it would have been even nicer, if the sorting would include at least the MEK and probably also the UK before the Disc ID.
That way one would get any "siblings" adjacent.

Perhaps also the date after MEK/UK but before DiscId... then one would also see "siblings" odered by date (but that's less important).
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Old 17th September 2025, 17:22   #1010  |  Link
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I had also trouble. Open the link in a new browser window. Then it just spins and spins but if you check the download arrow on the right top it will have downloaded the zip file after a while.
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Old 17th September 2025, 17:42   #1011  |  Link
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Good try but not true. FireFox shows HTTP. It just prompts, first.

PS: https://www.bplaced.net/ does work.
The "free" account does not support https

The "paid" account requires to pay with the bank account - and this is something I don't want.

So we're stuck with 2 limitations:
* really slow speed
* http and no https
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Old 17th September 2025, 17:44   #1012  |  Link
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I had also trouble. Open the link in a new browser window...
I tried that and received an immediate 404 from bplaced.net, which is the host of fvonline-db.

bplaced seems to have problems. I think it's trying to use tracking and my HOSTS file is defeating tracking.

PS: Uh, no, that isn't right. It can't be my HOSTS file because if it was, bplaced tracking would not respond and I'd get a twirling 'busy' icon that never stops. Instead, I get an immediate 404 _from_splaced_. I don't know what's happening except that the download is unreachable for me.

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The "free" account does not support https

The "paid" account requires to pay with the bank account - and this is something I don't want.

So we're stuck with 2 limitations:
* really slow speed
* http and no https
You're writing nonsense.

Correction: You're writing about _YOUR_ account at bplaced, not your browser. Oops!
Let me clear this up right now:
Yes, FireFox will visit HTTP. No problems.

Nalor, get yourself a good hosting service.

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Old 17th September 2025, 18:35   #1014  |  Link
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You're writing nonsense.

Correction: You're writing about _YOUR_ account at bplaced, not your browser. Oops!
Let me clear this up right now:
Yes, FireFox will visit HTTP. No problems.

Nalor, get yourself a good hosting service.
I agree regarding the hosting service. Mega is free and fast and comes with 20GB of space. What is used here is somehow outdated.
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Old 17th September 2025, 19:20   #1015  |  Link
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We don't necessarily know all Nalor's requirements on the back end for a free service. It's not just "hosting a file". He's running a whole PHP back end.
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Old 17th September 2025, 19:49   #1016  |  Link
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You're writing nonsense.
Nalor, get yourself a good hosting service.
Certainly a helpful tone towards someone who's been developing, maintaining and providing core components for FLOSS BDMV playback for years... for free, in his spare time.

(Regardless of what one might have thought he'd have been writing about).

So perhaps at least for myself (and probably a great deal silent users):
Big hug and thanks for all that to Nalor!


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I agree regarding the hosting service. Mega is free and fast and comes with 20GB of space. What is used here is somehow outdated.
Doesn't mega only offer file hosting? How should he run the software that maintains the DB (takes uploads, merges them, etc.) there?
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Old 17th September 2025, 20:34   #1017  |  Link
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You're writing nonsense.

Correction: You're writing about _YOUR_ account at bplaced, not your browser. Oops!
Let me clear this up right now:
Yes, FireFox will visit HTTP. No problems.

Nalor, get yourself a good hosting service.
Back in the days when I starting the site I tested really a lot of "free" hosting providers: most of them were showing ads on the page, which means they interfere with the original code and insert the ads into the page before delivering to the browser. This prevents e.g. uploads or automatic downloads and in the end bplaced was the one free provider without any technical limitations.

Maybe I should start another round of tests... but honestly I always had the hope that also bplaced would add new features to the "free" account .. but this didn't happen so far.

And the problem with services operated in a complex legal situation is that a free "no questions asked" solution is preferred.
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Old 17th September 2025, 22:02   #1018  |  Link
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Found the problem with the metadata archive, the root cause is a bad implementation from my side only working when db errors are ignored, this working as this kind of "ignoring" was the default in older php versions, but has been changed in 8.1: https://www.php.net/manual/en/mysqli...eport-mode.php

I'll improve the implementation tomorrow.
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Old 18th September 2025, 00:23   #1019  |  Link
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... And the problem with services operated in a complex legal situation is that a free "no questions asked" solution is preferred.
So, Nalor, do I read you right? You wouldn't use a paid host even if I paid for it?
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Found the problem with the metadata archive, the root cause is a bad implementation from my side only working when db errors are ignored, this working as this kind of "ignoring" was the default in older php versions, but has been changed in 8.1: https://www.php.net/manual/en/mysqli...eport-mode.php

I'll improve the implementation tomorrow.
Thank you very much.
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