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Old 13th February 2010, 12:39   #1  |  Link
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Occasional combing on otherwise great 60i>60p (tdeint)

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I've been out of the encoding loop for a year or two, and of course am not up to speed on current developments.

I have a video that is relatively simple, but has high motion in areas. I recall using a filter called tdeint a while ago which produced incredible results. It was pretty CPU heavy and it went at around 1 or 2 fps on a 2x2GHz Athlon TL at SD resolution (IIRC - there may have been some other filters adding to the complexity). I found the script on doom9.

Tried tdeint again but I'm now getting rendering framerates in double figures, so I'm obviously missing something. Quality is still excellent, but I'm wondering if there is anything better, or if anyone can point me in the direction of some of the more extreme tdeint scripts? I'm just using tdeint(mode=1) which is great, but in some of my encodes I noticed occasional combing that seems to have slipped through, or that tdent could not do anything with. If these are unrepairable, I think I would simply blend these trouble frames. This happens at around 64 and 63 seconds on the in game timer, as the character reels in the corner from getting hit while blocking low.

Here's a sample in case anyone feels like playing around. Encode time is not an issue, but quality is important. I've got a mountain of stuff on my DVD recorder, and I want to archive them in H.264 eventually and delete the vobs, so there will be no going back.
http://www.mediafire.com/?dzntg4z2t1z



Here's a bonus clip of Forza Motorsport that was causing problems. I really only care that I can get good quality for the Street Fighter clip, but this one was giving tdeint problems.

http://www.mediafire.com/?czjf0may1qm

Thanks in advance
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Old 13th February 2010, 13:48   #2  |  Link
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Try TempGaussMC
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Yeah, TempGaussMC is a good choice, but it's much slower than tdeint
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Yeah, TempGaussMC is a good choice, but it's much slower than tdeint
Yes

Faster: YadifMOD+NNEDI2 or Tdeint+TMM+NNEDI2
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Old 13th February 2010, 21:42   #5  |  Link
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Thanks guys. I tried TGMC, but to be honest, I preferred the output from tdeint. I don't know what it was, but it seemed to lose some detail in the players names.

Unfortunately I will not be able to test for a few days, because my Windows install has died. Ran the disk checker to pick up some errors (sometimes it would freeze up and I suspected a dying HDD), and next thing I know it's BSOD on boot every time.

Are there any additional arguments that can go with tdeint that might catch the frames it wasn't able to deal with completely?
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Are there any additional arguments that can go with tdeint that might catch the frames it wasn't able to deal with completely?
As LaTo said, you can also try Tdeint with nnedi2 and tmm.

Tdeint(mode=1, edeint=nnedi2(-2), emask=Tmm(1))
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If tgmc denoises too much, try this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...44#post1324744

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and next thing I know it's BSOD on boot every time.
Did you do the Windows Updates on Tuesday? You may have the rootkit/update problem - this may fix it:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...4-817bf39c207b

Though it may just be that your HDD is not in fit shape to boot...

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Did you do the Windows Updates on Tuesday? You may have the rootkit/update problem - this may fix it:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...4-817bf39c207b

Though it may just be that your HDD is not in fit shape to boot...

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Thanks for the info. I think it's the case that disk checker found an error in an important file and decided to fix/delete it. I'll try out that method, thanks.
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If you have a Nvidia card, you should try DGToolsNV.
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