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4th February 2013, 09:59 | #21 | Link | |
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Of course, the new prediction mode is still a good addition to the spec. In general the spec looks like it is a solid step forward over avc in every category, which is really quite encouraging. However, I still anticipate teething problems out of the gate regarding banding and a few other issues (such as the motion vector prediction inadvertently causing misprediction issues when paired with rd-optimization). [edit] I just realized that the linked paper actually includes an example of the technique used on a problem sample, which is much more informative then these papers often are. The prediction mode certainly does help, and at the target quality level they have set, it leads to adequate gradient performance. However, I expect it will not help greatly at more common bitrates. Still, its more useful then I expected. Last edited by *.mp4 guy; 4th February 2013 at 10:14. |
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21st February 2013, 16:29 | #22 | Link |
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nice information
Hi Peter,
Thanks for information about HEVC. You explanation is very narrative and easy to understand. I would like get some more information about residual decoding, Can u suggest me any documents or JCT-VC proposals?. Cheers, Keep posting some more topics regarding HEVC.:-) |
23rd February 2013, 20:13 | #24 | Link |
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Thanks for your explanations. Could you tell me when an HEVC encoder would be available for public ? I read an HEVC encoder implementation project lead by a Chinese developer has currently been suspended. So it seems such a project is not yet to be as strong as x264. Moreover, regarding as many people don't even have a Blu Ray player nor any H264 decoder engine, which means they simply don't use x264 but XviD instead for their personal encodes, when do you think HEVC will definitely take the lead ? What about HEVC & HEVC Blu ray players ? Last edited by sirt; 23rd February 2013 at 20:37. |
23rd February 2013, 20:15 | #25 | Link |
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I know of no 4k or HEVC disc format, likely it will just be online streaming from now on. The only public encoder right now is HM, the reference model. However it is slow an unoptimized, and doesn't plug well into existing tools. I suspect ffmpeg patches with HEVC support aren't that far off now that the standard is finalized.
I expect to see hardware decoders and encoders show up in consumer devices next year sometime. |
23rd February 2013, 22:06 | #26 | Link |
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HEVC will probably be used in the possible upcoming 4k bluray format. An encoder isn't really important at the moment, a decoder is. I doubt intel will have hevc decoding in their upcoming haswell chips but you never know.
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Hi, i started a thread here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=167312 before finding this one, is the source in the link HEVC?
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Consumer content is pretty much all 4:2:0, the higher chroma modes are more for post-production and archival. I suppose it would also be desirable in a still picture profile, for largely the same reasons. Last edited by pieter3d; 8th March 2013 at 06:07. |
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16th March 2013, 07:47 | #31 | Link |
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Back to H265 and pleasing 4:4:4 poster at the same time......
Is there any specific difference to H264/AVC, how H265 addresses encoding video with solid stable colors, like cartoons and computer graphics video?
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At the time this tool was proposed with this document, it was for intra only but in the final spec that distinction isn't made (can be both inter or intra 4x4's). Note that coding solid colors is easy, it is the sharp transitions that usually create artifacts which this tool can address. |
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16th March 2013, 16:15 | #33 | Link |
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The whole chroma subsampling discussion/debate has been moved to a new thread at the OP's request.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=167428 Please continue that line of discussion in the linked thread and use this thread for technical issues specifically related to HEVC. Last edited by Guest; 16th March 2013 at 16:26. |
19th May 2013, 08:28 | #34 | Link |
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Hi Peter3d,
I was hoping you can help me with this issue - regarding Transform Unit size restriction: I'm trying to encode a video with CUs (Coding Units) up to 32x32 pixels, and with TUs (Transform Units) up to 16x16 pixels. I'm setting MaxCUWidth, MaxCUHeight = 32, MaxPartitionDepth=3, and QuadtreeTULog2MaxSize = 4 (s.t. 2^4 = 16). QuadtreeTUMaxDepthInter,Intra = 3. The parameter of TULog2MaxSize only controls the Intra blocks. Meaning, in intra blocks I get max. TU = 16x16, but in Inter blocks, for some reason sometimes I get bigger TUs – I have few Inter TU with size = 32x32. How do I prevent this from happening? How can I restrict both intra AND inter blocks to be with TU <= 16x16? thanks |
21st May 2013, 13:29 | #37 | Link |
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pieter3d: I received also in non-split blocks, meaning regular CU (with merge flag = 0), few TUs with size=32x32.
how to avoid that? (Another thing: These TUs had no coefficients - all of their coefficients were zero, but still it was marked as a 32x32 TU) Sulik: Did you mean "If the inter TU is not coded..." or "if the inter CU is ..."? |
28th July 2013, 08:09 | #39 | Link |
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Dear experts
Let me share "HEVC Overview" presentation (113 slides) which I prepared, it's located at: https://app.box.com/s/rxxxzr1a1lnh7709yvih Notice that the overview has been reviewed by several experts. Moreover, the overview has been discussed within LinkedIn HEVC/H.265 technical group (see the link http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Detai...%2Egmp_3724292). I brought up many aspects of HEVC implementation and I would like to discuss it in Doom9 forum. Last edited by Guest; 28th July 2013 at 12:32. Reason: make links clickable |
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