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4th August 2009, 07:04 | #3282 | Link |
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1) Since all of my intended source material is/will be BluRays compressed by "BD Rebuilder", I'd ask you - Is there anything inherently different in such .M2TS files that would account for the anomalous behavior I've been experiencing with builds newer than 667? 2) Why is it that build 669 no longer refers to "Avisynth" when converting audio? |
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Here is what happened:
1) I ran a full encode of a video 1h 37mn 25s 632ms 2) hddvdmux successfully muxed the encoded/uncropped video to HVDVD_TS folder with size of 4GB (exactly according to my x264 bitrate setting in UNCROP window). So 1920x1080@23.976 100min video ~ max bitrate of about 5200-5500kbps + 640kbps 6ch AC3 fills up a DVD5. Good news is that it splits output EVOs to 1GB chunks: Code:
Directory of D:\HD-DVD-fulltest\HVDVD_TS 04.08.2009 г. 09:57 ч. 6 144 HV000I01.IFO 04.08.2009 г. 09:57 ч. 73 728 HV001I01.IFO 04.08.2009 г. 09:49 ч. 1 073 319 936 HV001T01.EVO 04.08.2009 г. 09:52 ч. 1 073 102 848 HV001T02.EVO 04.08.2009 г. 09:55 ч. 1 073 289 216 HV001T03.EVO 04.08.2009 г. 09:57 ч. 1 020 870 656 HV001T04.EVO 6 File(s) 4 240 662 528 bytes _ And back to your questions: 1) No - there is no difference if your source will be m2ts or mkv. 2) Avisynth is not used because it is not needed. There were few logic-errors in multiAVCHD, causing it to fail in some cases (yours included) - sorry about it. 3) The build that accepts .264 or .mkv or .m2ts or any file without reencoding ONLY if encoding parameters are correct is 669 and a log message is shown: Code:
[10:06:51] File is encoded with HD-DVD compatible H.264 settings: [10:06:51] movie.264 [10:06:51] Loading external audio: (und) - movie.ac3 There are a lot of multiAVCHD users with Win64, so I don't think it causes the troubles. edit: @setarip_old: Update to build 670 and give it a try. A lot of things are fixed now (including some bugs which definitely affected your compilations). I did another 10 tests and all seems to be okay now. Here is a sample of reusing the .264 file from last night's encode. multiAVCHD accepts it and uses it without re-encoding. hddvdmux takes about 7-10 mins to mux 4GB evos. Code:
[11:54:58] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.0 (build 670) [11:54:58] Selected output mode: HD-DVD player (DVD-R/RW disc) [11:54:58] Processing one title... [11:54:58] Processing (D:\hddvd-test3.264)... [11:54:58] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping... [11:54:58] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient... [11:54:58] *** Initiating video encoding: [11:54:58] *** Original : 1920x1080 [11:54:58] *** Crop : 0 [11:54:58] *** Resize : 1920x1080 (No change) [11:54:58] *** Uncrop to : 1920x1080 [11:54:58] *** Sharpen : 0 [11:54:58] *** Bitrate : 5121 kbps [11:54:58] *** Level : 4.1 [11:54:58] *** B-frames : 2 [11:54:58] *** Ref-frames: 2 [11:54:58] *** Frame rate: Original (23.976) [11:54:58] *** GOP size : 14 (min key frame interval: 2 frames) [11:54:58] *** Two-pass : No [11:54:58] *** Profile in use: HD-DVD [11:54:58] *** Title is already HD-DVD compliant! [11:54:58] *** Re-encoding completed successfully! [11:54:58] Using elementary video stream... [11:54:58] Detected frame reference count: 2 (max:4). [11:54:58] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1920x1080, fps=23.976, ref=2 [11:54:58] Total of 1 tracks found in this file. [11:54:58] Adding audiofile (hddvd-test3.ac3) [11:54:58] Creating HD-DVD structure... [12:07:06] HD-DVD muxing completed! [12:07:06] HD-DVD title saved: [12:07:06] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_hddvd-test3 [HD-DVD]\HD-DVD-hddvd-test3 [12:07:07] Compilation contains 1 HD-DVD titles and no AVCHD/Blu-ray titles! [12:07:07] Setting menu for 0 titles... [12:07:07] Selected TV system: [PAL] [12:07:07] Done! Compilation summary: Format: HD-DVD player (DVD-R/RW disc) (mixed with HD-DVD) Name : multiAVCHD =============================================================================== 1. 1 HD-DVD titles =============================================================================== Output size : 4044 MiB (3.95 GiB) [12:07:10] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_hddvd-test3 [HD-DVD] folder created! [12:07:10] multiAVCHD finished in 732 seconds (00:12:12)! [12:07:10] End of log. Dean Last edited by deank; 4th August 2009 at 20:58. |
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1) I'm pleased to let you know that, overnight, I used build 668 to successfully process the entire "Cadillac Records" .M2Ts of approximately 1 hour and 48 minutes. 2) Absolutely nothing was cut off at the end. 3) Unfortunately, there was a gradual desynch throughout the movie, starting with (apparently) -0- desynch and growing to approximately 7+ seconds by the end. I had all audio conversion choices set to "640" and wonder if this might have been the cause. I'm re-doing it, using build 670, with all audio conversions set to "448". |
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Audio async could've been caused by a bug (or may be not). Let me know if 670 makes any difference (and post your log for a last time). I didn't notice any audio problems with the movie I reencoded and hd-dvd muxed. It may also be caused by the 'forced' 23.976 to 29.970 pull-down thing, which hddvdmux supposedly tries to do.
Something I mentioned earlier: Since you already reencoded the whole movie - there is no need to reencode it again. multiAVCHD should've left a .264 in the source .m2ts-file folder. You can import it in multiAVCHD, set it for uncrop/hd-dvd output and add an external AC3 audio - it will make testing easier and it will take just minutes, instead of waiting few hours for a complete reencode. Dean Last edited by deank; 4th August 2009 at 23:31. |
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Here are the last two logs of full re-encodes:
1) Via build 668, using 640kbps audio - gradually out of synch 2) Via build 670, using 448kbps audio - burning as I type. I'll post playback results after (obviously) playing back ;>} Quote:
**EDIT** BTW - Are you intentionally continuing to omit the HD-DVD .BUPs? Last edited by setarip_old; 5th August 2009 at 01:48. |
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The full version that I processed using build 670 is perfectly in synch from start to finish ;>} One can Fast Forward and Fast Reverse. At this juncture, from my perspective, the only things lacking are chapterizing and time searching (I personally have no interest in subtitles). Can these two things be readily accomplished? If so, I'll hold off on checking double layer capability until then. Last edited by setarip_old; 5th August 2009 at 04:42. |
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What is the idea of reencoding and uncroping from blu-ray to HDDVD in your program? It is very easy to use the m2ts file created by BD_Rebuilder for HDDVD using the following steps: 1-Demux with TsMuxer. 2-Use h264info (version alpha 13) to add 3:2 pulldown flags and to write PPS in every picture. 3-Multiplex again to create HVDVD_TS structure. Using that steps you can created a compatible HDDVD movie from a 264 video file ( 1920 x 1080 23.97fps) wit an AC3 audio file... |
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Have you personally successfully created HD-DVDs that are playable on a standalone HD-DVD player, using this or any other freeware procedure? |
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I doubt I will be able to do anything about chapters and time search (I need to know the evo structure... we'll see) About the BUPs... Sorry - every time you asked I was thinking about the IFOs and never thought of the backups. I'll add them now. I also ran another encode tonight and it went as perfect as yours edit: We had a severe storm tonight (continuing at the moment 11am) which fried my router and my *.deanbg.com server network, despite it is UPSd. I may have troubles staying online and my forum/site/updates won't work. You can start multiUPDATE.exe - 5th or 6th mirror URL should work and update your multiAVCHD to have the .BUPs created properly. @m1482: Even if re-muxing to .evo was possible and there was a simple way to create the .ifo files, GOP size of 24/25 frames wouldn't work in HD-DVD (at least I think so). I asked jdobbs to include an option in BD Rebuilder for movie only mode, which will create compliant bd/avchd/hddvd .264 output, which HD-DVD users will be able to use without wasting more time for 2nd reencode and degrading the quality of the original bd disc. If he finds time for this - then hddvd users will be happy I guess. Dean Last edited by deank; 5th August 2009 at 09:54. |
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1) Create an "ADV_OBJ" directory 2) Create (and place in the "ADV_OBJ" directory) a simple text file named "VPLST000.XPL" and, as an example, enter as per following format (Use your own chapter times, of course). You can probably do without the layerbreak info: Quote:
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I did that, but Nero doesn't show chapters. Can you try it with your compilations?
In fact, Nero won't show any Chapters even on its own encodes - I did a 15 hour long HD-DVD encode few days ago and I now tested it - no chapters. * multiAVCHD will now generate VPLST000.XPL in ADV_OBJ, based on the chapter list in Title properties * BUP files will be created, too You will need to update with multiUPDATE.exe. Other forums point out to DISCID.DAT file in ADV_OBJ folder, so it is possible that without the .dat and .map files subtitles/chapters will not be available. setarip_old, PM me if you can help with a sample of these files. Dean Last edited by deank; 5th August 2009 at 15:36. |
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1) Build 670+, both with and without "ADV_OBJ" and "VLST000.XPL" in it, cropped off the last several seconds of an otherwise perfect conversion of "10,000 B.C." - and failed to recognize the chapter structure... 2) The "standard" HD-DVDs that we are creating here may require something entirely different regarding chapterization. Amongst my present collection of commercial HD-DVDs, I have only one that is "standard" - "Rain in the Mountains" (MPEG-2 video). It contains ONLY an "HDDVD_TS" folder. The folder contains ONLY .EVOs, equivalent .IFOs, and equivalent .BUPs. Therefore, I presume the chaptering code is in the .IFOs. This would preclude the need for any of the additional data you referred to, since it's all found in an "ADV_OBJ" directory, which doesn't exist for this HD-DVD. Unfortunately, "IFOEdit" is not capable of reading these .IFOs... Last edited by setarip_old; 6th August 2009 at 05:15. |
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The AVC video file from a blu-ray, is compatible with HDDVD. Only pulldown flags and PPS pictures should be added. And yes it plays on a standalone Toshiba HDDVD player (HD-A2)!!! |
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This change frame rate from 23.976>29.97!!! So the option in BD Rebuilder is not really needed, just post processing the video file will make it compatible... Last edited by m1482; 6th August 2009 at 04:15. |
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2nd: I'm doing some tests now about chapters in IFOs, so if I succeed, I'll let you know. Dean |
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Any explanation as to why Build 670+ cut off the last four or five seconds of the tail-end of a full movie conversion, while Build 670 did not? |
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I told you about the cut-off. It seems that hddvdmux does it 'randomly' and it depends on the information in the last few packets of the h264 stream (and bitrate) and the way this muxer muxes it. This glitch is caused by hddvdmux, not by multiAVCHD.
There is no difference between 670 and 670+ about that. I only added chapter file in adv_obj - nothing related to the muxing or encoding. I encoded 10 different clips and some won't have anything cut, other will have 1 second cut, other 7 seconds - all with the same build. I found a way to change the number of chapters in the IFO file, but they all point to 00:00:00... now i'm trying to put the correct jump times, but don't put too much hope in it. Last edited by deank; 6th August 2009 at 10:04. |
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