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Superior field-matching filter needed
I was dissecting some Transformers episodes today and noticed a tiny flaw in Uncomb: it occasionally spat out interlaced frames in places where there were no orphaned fields and therefore no reasonable excuse for why this would happen except crappy code. I dusted off the documentation for telecide, only to be reminded of why I stopped using telecide so many years ago. So now I'm looking for a field-matching filter that's more accurate than Uncomb, but doesn't have 500 tons of bloat and garbage attached to it like Decomb does. Another way of putting it would be that I'm looking for something that works just like Uncomb but without the annoying habit of generating obviously incorrect frames for no reason. Any suggestions?
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Today, I shall humor Hello because it has been at least 4 hours since I've gotten into an argument with someone who couldn't understand basic English, and thus I am in a good mood.
In these two images, the combing shows up in the lines that make up the grids: In this one, Ravage is interlaced: Obvious interlacing is obvious: It's fast, there's nothing to configure, and it doesn't try to do anything other than match fields. I'll use TFM if I have to, but the documentation does a very poor job of explaining what all the different modes actually do, and I don't like the default post-processing setting.
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Try TFM() and TDecimate() (they are part of IVTC). I echo Hello's excellent point that I think he was making, namely that if you want to get good results, you will have to feed the plugin some settings. Every video is different, and that is exactly why most plugins have all sorts of settings. There are virtually no plugins of any type (that I know of) that work every time on all video, without doing some tweaking. [edit]You changed your post. I replied to the wording you had in your original post, before it was changed (see quote above from your original wording). Last edited by johnmeyer; 11th June 2016 at 00:01. Reason: OP changed his post |
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I've spent the past several minutes trying to track down a copy of TFM (which I used to have before the hard drive that it was on died). Unfortunately, it looks like the missouri.edu server is down. Does anyone have a backup or mirror?
Oh, it does... it just works very badly with this particular content.
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Thanks! Now I have to download and install 7zip because some people are apparently too elite to use normal zip files like the rest of us peasants...
EDIT: Yes, the default mode and pp=0 yield precisely the results that I was hoping for. This will serve my needs very well. Thank you, John Meyer and Poison Death Ray!
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TIVTCv105.zip http://www88.zippyshare.com/v/Ua3mYJtI/file.html 447KB vs. 277KB. It's a significant difference |
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Edit: I just realised. I must be off the ignore list. Oh the sheer joy of it......
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Combing under the credits. Mmmmmm..... mightn't be Uncomb's fault. It's impossible to tell without a sample. It's obvious when the credits are over top of the video too. It mightn't mean anything, but screenshots don't tell the story. A sample would be nice. Wouldn't it be funny if it wasn't pulldown but it's interlaced? And you try another IVTC method that de-interlaces? And you like it? Have you noticed every screenshot you posted shows combing under credits, which appear to have no combing, but it's impossible to even tell if they're moving, due to the continued confusion between a screenshot and a sample. Last edited by hello_hello; 12th June 2016 at 06:12. Reason: spelling |
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Sometimes I wonder why Hello even bothers posting in the threads that I start, knowing that he/she is on my ignore list.
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