Alternative Matroska Splitter (Haali)

[DAvenger]

Going to test this new splitter with RadLight as soon as I get the chance (currently without Internet access). I just hope it can replace the buggy original splitter.

[robUx4]

Drum Rolls.

Haali has done an incredible job and fixed all the known bugs so far.

But most of all he came up with the idea of sharing some Intro and Credits between several episodes and having them only just once in the file !!! The solution we made up is using chapters and is included in the Matroska specs. That means it will be supported widely in the future.

But it's no vaporware since you can test it with the sample on his webpage. The sample was made with a modified mkvmerge, Mosu will probably include the (simple) additions soon.

Such files will still play in older splitters, but you will see the Intro and Credits only from their location in the file...

[robUx4]

PS: of course you need his latest splitter version.

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by [Toff]
It's because this is a very old file which use the old ssa codec ID "S_SSA" which is now "S_TEXT/SSA".

The bad thing about this is MKVmerge does support S_SSA still now, and it does not change S_SSA into S_TEXT/SSA even if you take trouble to transmux the old file.

As a side note, some subs in that file do not play on _win98_ even if you use Gabest's Splitter that is more backward-compatible. Because some parameters needed for win98 to handle Unicode are missing in the original SSA data. (not splitters' fault)

Btw - If audio switcher mode is 'auto', I'd like to see audio swithing menu at the tray icon always if it's multiaudio. And audio swither does not seem to working properly. If the mode is 'on', all the audio tracks are checked by default, but what you actually get is the 1st audio track only. If you select the 2nd+ audio track, the audio is just gone and you cant hear anything.

[[Toff]]

Originally posted by Liisachan
Btw - If audio switcher mode is 'auto', I'd like to see audio swithing menu at the tray icon always if it's multiaudio. And audio swither does not seem to working properly. If the mode is 'on', all the audio tracks are checked by default, but what you actually get is the 1st audio track only. If you select the 2nd+ audio track, the audio is just gone and you cant hear anything.

If you're player support audio track switching then you need to use 'auto' or 'no', and switch track IN the player.
If it doesn't, you need to use 'auto' or 'yes'.

If you choose 'yes' with a player that has audio track switching support it's like you are using 2 switches one after another, both need to be on the same position for the track to work.
It's why the audio menu is hidden in 'auto' mode, cause you need to switch IN the player, otherwise you need to keep both switch synchronized.

If you choose 'no' with a player that doesn't have audio track switching support then both track will play at the same time.

[Palikrovol]

Originally posted by [Toff]
If you're player support audio track switching then you need to use 'auto' or 'no', and switch track IN the player.
If it doesn't, you need to use 'auto' or 'yes'.

If you choose 'yes' with a player that has audio track switching support it's like you are using 2 switches one after another, both need to be on the same position for the track to work.
It's why the audio menu is hidden in 'auto' mode, cause you need to switch IN the player, otherwise you need to keep both switch synchronized.

If you choose 'no' with a player that doesn't have audio track switching support then both track will play at the same time.

In WMP (no internal audio track switching) is ok when the switcher is 'auto' and i change it to 'on', but if then i close the player and start it again with the movie (now the switcher is 'on') all the audio streams are checked and are playing at the same time. If then i turn the switcher to 'auto' (without stoping) it's ok again.

[Palikrovol]

In WMP the 5.1 audio tracks (in my mkv AAC 5.1) sounds in stereo. I think it has somenthing to do with the switcher because in MPC it's ok when uses its own switcher and doesn't work when i disable the internal switcher and uses the mlv-switcher.

Using Graphedit, in the properties of the "Core AAC audio decoder" of the 5.1 audio stream it says that the format in the "XForm in" tab is 'WaveFormatEx: 48.000 KHz 0bit stereo' and the same in the "XForm out" tab. But in the 'info' tab from CoreAAC it says 'Channels: 6->6'

BTW: The chapters works very well (in WMP and MPC).

[Mosu]

Originally posted by Liisachan
The bad thing about this is MKVmerge does support S_SSA still now, and it does not change S_SSA into S_TEXT/SSA even if you take trouble to transmux the old file.

w00t!? That should not happen. It should take S_SSA and change it into S_TEST/SSA... Time for another bug hunt

[Mosu]

Originally posted by Mosu
Time for another bug hunt

*splat* got it. http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkv...20040820-2.rar

(As with all my current builds you need either Toff's fixed version of Gabest's splitter or even better Haali's splitter for the resulting files to be playable properly.)

[filewalker]

Now I tested latest version of the splitter and the patched VSFilter in combination with Zoomplayer (The splitter's stream switcher is set to "no")

It works realy nice!! No problems, now.

Fast loading time, track names are shown correctly (as written in MKVmerge), chapters are aslo working, FF and rewind are also working in a fast way.... no bug to report.

Congratultions!

Cu filewalker

[Palikrovol]

The WMP bug with all streams playing at the same time when switcher is 'on' is solved .

Great.

5.1 AAC still sounds in stereo in WMP.

Go on and congratulations.

[wiflye81]

My question may be stupid but is there any possibilities to test the new features under linux ?
I will test the new features under windows soon.
Thx for your great work.

[gizmotech]

Question. Has anyone tested the splitter w/ an incomplete/corrupted file?

Just to confirm that playback is still functioning correctly, and that it isn't loading fonts that are incomplete/corrupted at playback on S_TEXT/SSA encodes.

Gizmo.

[Liisachan]

Originally posted by Mosu
(As with all my current builds you need either Toff's fixed version of Gabest's splitter or even better Haali's splitter for the resulting files to be playable properly.)

If you mean 64-bit float things, Gabest's new filter at guliverkli (1.0.2.4) is ok too, afaik. ( Gabest's 1.0.2.4 also supports TTA_1, and skippy audio around 35sec has been fixed, seemingly. )

As for the alt splitter, supporting S_SSA is not very important because that codec id is just scarcely used. But I hope, generally, all the backward compatibility will be respected as long as that is technically possible.

[robUx4]

Originally posted by gizmotech
Question. Has anyone tested the splitter w/ an incomplete/corrupted file?

Just to confirm that playback is still functioning correctly, and that it isn't loading fonts that are incomplete/corrupted at playback on S_TEXT/SSA encodes.

Gizmo.

There is a problem with corrupted/incomplete files as of now. For me (and all P2P users) it's a major issue, and Haali is going to have a look.

I don't think it can load fonts for the moment.

[gizmotech]

It is loading fonts atm. Which is why I brought it up.

Gizmo.

[robUx4]

Yeah, Haali told me about that

Other news: spyder has managed to mux MPEG2 in Matroska natively and MPEG1 should work. Haali will add support soon and the latest filter from Gabest should be able to read it.

We will also work on a Menu system very similar to the one of DVDs during the coming weeks. It should then be possible to transmux a whole DVD into Matroska without losing most features, if any.

[RBF]

robUx4

The new filter is made as file parser, to this it does not support playing mkv - files written on XCD (Mode2/Form2 CD).
Whether it is possible to make also the new filter as splitter?

[robUx4]

Haali prefer not to do it a splitter.
But he'll try to make it work with XCDs

[RBF]

Originally posted by robUx4
But he'll try to make it work with XCDs

It will be wonderful!