BDedit - BD structure edit - Page 6

fib0by · 13th April 2008, 23:10

The Canon HF100 camcorder creates a BD structure live on the flash card. I put it on a DVD-5 with no changes and it played as "AVCHD" on the PS3 - no menus, just one title, every scene (file) on the flash a different chapter in the title.

There's one problem: at the end, the PS3 loops back to the beginning and starts playing the whole disk (title) again. What do I need to change to prevent it from doing that?

hubblec4 · 18th April 2008, 09:33

Hi Pelican9

Is it possible to implement the the output-format of chapters in form of "ogg" like in ChapterXtractor?

i can't use your chapter.txt in mkvmerge.

hubble

for example:

CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=Chapter 1
CHAPTER02=00:03:59.720
CHAPTER02NAME=Chapter 2
CHAPTER03=00:06:01.400
CHAPTER03NAME=Chapter 3
CHAPTER04=00:07:13.160
CHAPTER04NAME=Chapter 4
CHAPTER05=00:14:09.160
CHAPTER05NAME=Chapter 5
CHAPTER06=00:16:23.320
CHAPTER06NAME=Chapter 6
CHAPTER07=00:17:23.120
CHAPTER07NAME=Chapter 7
CHAPTER08=00:20:46.960
CHAPTER08NAME=Chapter 8
CHAPTER09=00:23:24.520
CHAPTER09NAME=Chapter 9
CHAPTER10=00:28:14.160
CHAPTER10NAME=Chapter 10
CHAPTER11=00:29:10.320
CHAPTER11NAME=Chapter 11
CHAPTER12=00:31:49.440
CHAPTER12NAME=Chapter 12
CHAPTER13=00:35:54.360
CHAPTER13NAME=Chapter 13
CHAPTER14=00:40:37.240
CHAPTER14NAME=Chapter 14
CHAPTER15=00:41:43.800
CHAPTER15NAME=Chapter 15

emufan · 18th April 2008, 16:54

can modify the .clpi file？

gioowe · 18th April 2008, 18:30

Pelican9, is it possible that the decoding of Set:SetSystem:SetStream is incomplete/wrong?

51000001 8FEC8FED 00000000 is decoded as: SetStream PSR109, GPR0

GPR4076 and GPR4077 are used. So I assume that the correct decoding is SetStream GPR4076, GPR4077, <notset>, <notset>

SetStream should have 4 parameters. And 8000h defines if it's used. Parameters being Audio, Subtitle, IG, Angle.

musicman2311 · 19th April 2008, 00:10

Hello,
I made some experiments with Nero 8.
1. 1 title, no Menu -> result : it loops
2. 1 title 1 Menu -> you can select end action in Nero as follows
a) loop title
b) next title
c) go to menu

Based on that, I assume/conclude as follows

* there is no 'stop' action defined at end of title (again my guess)
* if you want to not loop, you have to create a menu
* reason (again, my guess): when you author a title in scenarist (which is very strict on standard compliance), you must select a top menu and at least 1 movie both pointing to the stream you want to author for blu ray.
you cannot not select the menu - it means the top menu is also the title (movie).
if you play in PS3 and select go to menu it actually starts the movie again, but if you had chapters, these are then not recogized.
In conclusion it seems, that looping is the only sensible action when you have no menu.

one idea, which I am not sure makes sense would be to create a 2nd title of extremely short length , for example black screen.
you can then loop that after the defined end action from clip 1 (the movie) was 'go to next'

of course I would be overly keen to see if there is another solution which stops the annoying looping

hope this helps

musicman2311 · 19th April 2008, 04:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman2311

Hello,
I made some experiments with Nero 8.
1. 1 title, no Menu -> result : it loops
2. 1 title 1 Menu -> you can select end action in Nero as follows
a) loop title
b) next title
c) go to menu

Based on that, I assume/conclude as follows

* there is no 'stop' action defined at end of title (again my guess)
* if you want to not loop, you have to create a menu
* reason (again, my guess): when you author a title in scenarist (which is very strict on standard compliance), you must select a top menu and at least 1 movie both pointing to the stream you want to author for blu ray.
you cannot not select the menu - it means the top menu is also the title (movie).
if you play in PS3 and select go to menu it actually starts the movie again, but if you had chapters, these are then not recogized.
In conclusion it seems, that looping is the only sensible action when you have no menu.

one idea, which I am not sure makes sense would be to create a 2nd title of extremely short length , for example black screen.
you can then loop that after the defined end action from clip 1 (the movie) was 'go to next'

of course I would be overly keen to see if there is another solution which stops the annoying looping

hope this helps

actually, the last part is not correct, i just found a disk with 1 title, which i made. at the end of the movie it stops -will investigate

can somebody tell me how to create a bdedit screenshot to post ?

musicman2311 · 19th April 2008, 05:18

ok here is the screen shot - made by scenarist, stream file name is 00000.m2ts

d0ORk · 25th April 2008, 15:07

Hi there, is it also possible to show the correct playlist for movies like Ratatouille, which is splitted in so many m2ts?
If yes, how?

lschaudies · 25th April 2008, 16:36

It can take quite a long time to restructure a movie which is broken up into multiple .m2ts and I cannot figure out how to read that info with BDedit

musicman2311 · 26th April 2008, 05:36

sorry I don't have that movie

d0ORk · 29th April 2008, 14:45

I know the correct playlist now, but I had to search with a hexeditor in the playlist files, so it would be great if BDEdit could show the correct playlist.

Pelican9 · 29th April 2008, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0ORk

Hi there, is it also possible to show the correct playlist for movies like Ratatouille, which is splitted in so many m2ts?
If yes, how?

See the 00001.mpls

d0ORk · 30th April 2008, 10:49

Hi, is it always the 00001.mpls or just in the Rataouille BR?

Altaria · 30th April 2008, 12:54

Hi
Is it possible to correct a defect menu with BDedit or can BDedit show where the fault is, because I've one BD-structure which can't be played with powerdvd . There is only a black screen and powerdvd stops after 10sec

drsmithdtv · 5th May 2008, 08:28

Is it possible to use BDedit to modify index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv for possible playback of edited BD structure with PDVD or Arcsoft TMT ?

Pelican9 · 7th May 2008, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0ORk

Hi, is it always the 00001.mpls or just in the Rataouille BR?

No, not always.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drsmithdtv

Is it possible to use BDedit to modify index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv for possible playback of edited BD structure with PDVD or Arcsoft TMT ?

Yes, it is.

emufan · 8th May 2008, 16:40

I wish BD edit can modify the"IN TIME OUT TIME "in the *.mpls

aklendathu · 10th May 2008, 14:11

How can I use BDEDIT to turn on a given subtitle stream by default ? My player doesn't recognize my language (POR) in its setup menu and therefore is always off when my self-authored movie starts...

drsmithdtv · 20th May 2008, 13:04

I have created a Blu-ray movie file from two merged m2ts files using a combination of TSsplitter and TsRemux.

I used TSsplitter to join the two m2ts files and then TsRemux to create the Blu-ray movie structure. While the merged m2ts is the right filesize the time duration as reported from TsRemux is only the duration of the second input m2ts file.

In terms of playback from Arcsoft TMT, the time duration of the merged m2ts file with direct playback is correct however when I attempt playback as a movie file, the duration corresponds only to the second input m2ts file. A consequence of this is that TMT will only play part of the file (for the shorter duration) before returning to the start.

Is it possible to change the duration of a BD movie file with BDedit ?

ksamborn · 20th May 2008, 20:23

Hi Pelican, great tool.

I have recently begun to experiment with home made movies shot on HDV and authored for Blu-Ray with Adobe Encore CS3.

My goal is to burn my HD movies on a regular DVD for viewing on PS3. The rationale is primarily cost of the media. I know it is realistic since the length is well below 4.7GB capacity of the DVD.

The issue I have is that Encore writes out a standard Blu-Ray file structure, which, when burned to a DVD is incompatible with the PS3.

However, the PS3 is capable of playing authored AVCHD discs, including those with HDV (mpeg2) content.

Therefore, what I have been able to accomplish is that starting with an AVCHD index.bdmv, I can edit it using BDedit to be identical to the authored index.bdmv as output from Encore. Then, I burn the AVCHD structure and it works!

But, this method is time consuming and rather awkward.

When I compare the original Blu-Ray index.bdmv with the AVCHD index.bdmv, I can see that the only distinction is the presence of the "1 extended entry" in the AVCHD.

My question is - is there any capability or do you have any plans to add functionality to edit the ExtensionData() records with BDedit. Naturally, I am primarily interested in adding the AVCHD "tag". This functionality would save a lot of time during the authoring process!

(I have examined the binary data and I have read the Blu-Ray patents I found with Google, but I am unable to find enough detail to implement this myself.)

Here is a link to a description of the workflow:

http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b520d1

Thank you very much for your time.

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musicman2311 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 164	ok here is the screen shot - made by scenarist, stream file name is 00000.m2ts Attached Images

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lschaudies Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1	I second that question It can take quite a long time to restructure a movie which is broken up into multiple .m2ts and I cannot figure out how to read that info with BDedit

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drsmithdtv Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	I have created a Blu-ray movie file from two merged m2ts files using a combination of TSsplitter and TsRemux. I used TSsplitter to join the two m2ts files and then TsRemux to create the Blu-ray movie structure. While the merged m2ts is the right filesize the time duration as reported from TsRemux is only the duration of the second input m2ts file. In terms of playback from Arcsoft TMT, the time duration of the merged m2ts file with direct playback is correct however when I attempt playback as a movie file, the duration corresponds only to the second input m2ts file. A consequence of this is that TMT will only play part of the file (for the shorter duration) before returning to the start. Is it possible to change the duration of a BD movie file with BDedit ? Last edited by drsmithdtv; 20th May 2008 at 13:12.

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fib0by Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 78	The Canon HF100 camcorder creates a BD structure live on the flash card. I put it on a DVD-5 with no changes and it played as "AVCHD" on the PS3 - no menus, just one title, every scene (file) on the flash a different chapter in the title. There's one problem: at the end, the PS3 loops back to the beginning and starts playing the whole disk (title) again. What do I need to change to prevent it from doing that?

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hubblec4 Matroska find' ich toll Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,380	Hi Pelican9 Is it possible to implement the the output-format of chapters in form of "ogg" like in ChapterXtractor? i can't use your chapter.txt in mkvmerge. hubble for example: CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000 CHAPTER01NAME=Chapter 1 CHAPTER02=00:03:59.720 CHAPTER02NAME=Chapter 2 CHAPTER03=00:06:01.400 CHAPTER03NAME=Chapter 3 CHAPTER04=00:07:13.160 CHAPTER04NAME=Chapter 4 CHAPTER05=00:14:09.160 CHAPTER05NAME=Chapter 5 CHAPTER06=00:16:23.320 CHAPTER06NAME=Chapter 6 CHAPTER07=00:17:23.120 CHAPTER07NAME=Chapter 7 CHAPTER08=00:20:46.960 CHAPTER08NAME=Chapter 8 CHAPTER09=00:23:24.520 CHAPTER09NAME=Chapter 9 CHAPTER10=00:28:14.160 CHAPTER10NAME=Chapter 10 CHAPTER11=00:29:10.320 CHAPTER11NAME=Chapter 11 CHAPTER12=00:31:49.440 CHAPTER12NAME=Chapter 12 CHAPTER13=00:35:54.360 CHAPTER13NAME=Chapter 13 CHAPTER14=00:40:37.240 CHAPTER14NAME=Chapter 14 CHAPTER15=00:41:43.800 CHAPTER15NAME=Chapter 15

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emufan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15	can modify the .clpi file？

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gioowe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 95	Pelican9, is it possible that the decoding of Set:SetSystem:SetStream is incomplete/wrong? 51000001 8FEC8FED 00000000 is decoded as: SetStream PSR109, GPR0 GPR4076 and GPR4077 are used. So I assume that the correct decoding is SetStream GPR4076, GPR4077, <notset>, <notset> SetStream should have 4 parameters. And 8000h defines if it's used. Parameters being Audio, Subtitle, IG, Angle.

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musicman2311 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 164	Hello, I made some experiments with Nero 8. 1. 1 title, no Menu -> result : it loops 2. 1 title 1 Menu -> you can select end action in Nero as follows a) loop title b) next title c) go to menu Based on that, I assume/conclude as follows * there is no 'stop' action defined at end of title (again my guess) * if you want to not loop, you have to create a menu * reason (again, my guess): when you author a title in scenarist (which is very strict on standard compliance), you must select a top menu and at least 1 movie both pointing to the stream you want to author for blu ray. you cannot not select the menu - it means the top menu is also the title (movie). if you play in PS3 and select go to menu it actually starts the movie again, but if you had chapters, these are then not recogized. In conclusion it seems, that looping is the only sensible action when you have no menu. one idea, which I am not sure makes sense would be to create a 2nd title of extremely short length , for example black screen. you can then loop that after the defined end action from clip 1 (the movie) was 'go to next' of course I would be overly keen to see if there is another solution which stops the annoying looping hope this helps

25th April 2008, 15:07	#108 \| Link
d0ORk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54	Hi there, is it also possible to show the correct playlist for movies like Ratatouille, which is splitted in so many m2ts? If yes, how?

26th April 2008, 05:36	#110 \| Link
musicman2311 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 164	sorry I don't have that movie

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d0ORk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54	I know the correct playlist now, but I had to search with a hexeditor in the playlist files, so it would be great if BDEdit could show the correct playlist.

30th April 2008, 10:49	#113 \| Link
d0ORk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 54	Hi, is it always the 00001.mpls or just in the Rataouille BR?

30th April 2008, 12:54	#114 \| Link
Altaria Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 35	Hi Is it possible to correct a defect menu with BDedit or can BDedit show where the fault is, because I've one BD-structure which can't be played with powerdvd . There is only a black screen and powerdvd stops after 10sec

5th May 2008, 08:28	#115 \| Link
drsmithdtv Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	Is it possible to use BDedit to modify index.bdmv and MovieObject.bdmv for possible playback of edited BD structure with PDVD or Arcsoft TMT ?

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emufan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15	I wish BD edit can modify the"IN TIME OUT TIME "in the *.mpls

10th May 2008, 14:11	#118 \| Link
aklendathu Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 161	How can I use BDEDIT to turn on a given subtitle stream by default ? My player doesn't recognize my language (POR) in its setup menu and therefore is always off when my self-authored movie starts...

20th May 2008, 20:23	#120 \| Link
ksamborn Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3	Hi Pelican, great tool. I have recently begun to experiment with home made movies shot on HDV and authored for Blu-Ray with Adobe Encore CS3. My goal is to burn my HD movies on a regular DVD for viewing on PS3. The rationale is primarily cost of the media. I know it is realistic since the length is well below 4.7GB capacity of the DVD. The issue I have is that Encore writes out a standard Blu-Ray file structure, which, when burned to a DVD is incompatible with the PS3. However, the PS3 is capable of playing authored AVCHD discs, including those with HDV (mpeg2) content. Therefore, what I have been able to accomplish is that starting with an AVCHD index.bdmv, I can edit it using BDedit to be identical to the authored index.bdmv as output from Encore. Then, I burn the AVCHD structure and it works! But, this method is time consuming and rather awkward. When I compare the original Blu-Ray index.bdmv with the AVCHD index.bdmv, I can see that the only distinction is the presence of the "1 extended entry" in the AVCHD. My question is - is there any capability or do you have any plans to add functionality to edit the ExtensionData() records with BDedit. Naturally, I am primarily interested in adding the AVCHD "tag". This functionality would save a lot of time during the authoring process! (I have examined the binary data and I have read the Blu-Ray patents I found with Google, but I am unable to find enough detail to implement this myself.) Here is a link to a description of the workflow: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b520d1 Thank you very much for your time.