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Jeremy Duncan · 15th April 2007, 23:26

Destroying DRM is not my bag of tea.
It's offensive to a person to a point that is akin to personal space.
I'm not saying which person is too close to whom and who is offending whom, I'll let you figure that out.

Thank you all for your time.
I don't want to disturb your Nirvana Zen.

Geremia · 16th April 2007, 00:03

BTW, regarding the LBA boundaries

0x40220 is the last LBA of disc, 00DBA9BF for kingkong
changing to FFFFFFFF makes boundary checks pass. negative LBA begins at FFFFFFFF and backward

first enable DF command, then

plscsi.exe -v -p -x "DF 00 E3 00 04 02 20 04 02 23 FF FF"

you can use iisobuster to read negative LBA sectors, but this not allow to read the system lead-in area, but it's good for any other purpose

Galileo2000 · 17th April 2007, 04:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Duncan

Destroying DRM is not my bag of tea.
It's offensive to a person to a point that is akin to personal space.
I'm not saying which person is too close to whom and who is offending whom, I'll let you figure that out.

Thank you all for your time.
I don't want to disturb your Nirvana Zen.

I suggest you return to your regular activities and won't post on this thread, or even better, on this forum.

blutach · 17th April 2007, 04:48

Please let it rest guys. Galileo2000, please observe rule 4.

Now, back on topic please.

Regards

mrazzido · 17th April 2007, 10:17

Hello! does any1 checked TS-L802A notebook hd dvd drive .

is there the same firmware bug availble?

i upload two firmwares (-bin) file CLICK DL

awhitehead · 18th April 2007, 07:17

Geremia, you were talking about laser power and pit sizes earlier, so maybe you know....

(If anyone else knows, feel free to jump in)

Here is my situation: I have an HD-DVD disk, that is readable in one HD-DVD drive (Toshiba SD-S802A), and not readable in another HD-DVD drive (NEC HR-1100A). Other HD-DVD disks are read by both.

When I say "not readable", I don't mean "not playable by software", etc, I mean that one ODD can read the bytes on disk and the other one can't

I verified sending the following CDBs to the drive using plscsi:

plscsi -v -x "25 00 00:00:00:00 00 00:00 00" -i 8 (READ CAPACITY)

plscsi -v -x "28 00 00:00:00:10 00 00:01 00" -i x800 (READ(10) 2048 bytes of the disk starting at address 16 (should be first block on disk))

Toshiba returns valid data, NEC returns AE's.

Is this a problem due to laser power? Bad mastering? Something else?

The title in question is French release of "Stalingrad" ("Enemy at the Gates") by Fox Pathe/Studio Canal. It doesn't have AACS encryption on the disk, and BCA is full of 00s.

arnezami · 23rd April 2007, 20:53

I guess this is the best place to put this.

New version of: fetchvid v0.2

Some big changes:

- Generally more sublte and cleaner so its probably more reliable
- Time in ms (which is better)
- Works for BluRay too! (well it should, please test)
- You can examine the behaviour of your player+drive first and adjust your time setting to that.
- Removed the lower/higher advise because it seemed to disrupt proper working (possibly due to interference with new player version).

Basicly this is the BluRay equivalent of a Volume ID "hack". You need a working Software Player for this to work.

It should work on any drive and any software player

.

Please test this for BD

...

arnezami

PepsiLee2001 · 24th April 2007, 02:56

I try to test fetchvid v0.2 for Blu-ray & HD-DVD.

for HD-DVD (work fine)

Code:

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe L
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a HD DVD disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
vid: 400025061303183157474844564D0000

for blu-ray

Code:

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

for blu-ray

Code:

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m 1000 5
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 5
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 15078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
Player has stopped using drive: 56562 ms
Player is accessing drive: 3
Player has stopped using drive: 13328 ms
Player is accessing drive: 4
Player has stopped using drive: 14078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 5

PowerDVD 7.3 play & stop 5 time, but still can't get vid.

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by PepsiLee2001

I try to test fetchvid v0.2 for Blu-ray & HD-DVD.

for HD-DVD (work fine)

Code:

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe L
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a HD DVD disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
vid: 400025061303183157474844564D0000

for blu-ray

Code:

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

for blu-ray

Code:

G:\fetchvid 0.2>fetchvid.exe m 1000 5
fetchvid v0.2.
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 5
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 15078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 2
Player has stopped using drive: 56562 ms
Player is accessing drive: 3
Player has stopped using drive: 13328 ms
Player is accessing drive: 4
Player has stopped using drive: 14078 ms
Player is accessing drive: 5

PowerDVD 7.3 play & stop 5 time, but still can't get vid.

Hmm. Looks like it accesses the drive for like 13-15 (or 60) seconds. How long does it take for your movie to Bluray to startup? Or does fetchvid interfere/prevent it from playing? Or is it already playing the movie when you see these numbers come along? And how long did it take for it to give the "Could not retrieve" error message the first time?

Have you tried raising/lowering the time value?

Its possible that your BD drive is capable of multiple AGIDs at the same time which might explain this behaviour. But its kinda weird. Make sure you really shut down your player before starting fetchvid.

What brand/model drive do you have?

Also try this version (v0.2.1):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/i4ah2p

It should give AGID (debugging) messages if more than one AGID is used.

arnezami

PepsiLee2001 · 24th April 2007, 05:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnezami

Hmm. Looks like it accesses the drive for like 13-15 (or 60) seconds. How long does it take for your movie to Bluray to startup? Or does fetchvid interfere/prevent it from playing? Or is it already playing the movie when you see these numbers come along? And how long did it take for it to give the "Could not retrieve" error message the first time?

Have you tried raising/lowering the time value?

Its possible that your BD drive is capable of multiple AGIDs at the same time which might explain this behaviour. But its kinda weird. Make sure you really shut down your player before starting fetchvid.

What brand/model drive do you have?

fetchvid 0.21 testing result.

OS : WinXP SP2
BD Drive : LiteOn LH-2B1S
blu-ray disc : 2007 DTS-HD Master Audio Presentation Disc

default argument

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 20000 1
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 20000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

PowerDVD 7.3 is playing normally.

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 15000 3
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 15000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 2
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 9797 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 18563 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 3

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

aacskeys 0.24 work fine

Code:

G:\aacskeys_v0.2.4>aacskeys m n
aacskeys v0.2.4

First C-value:                459DE09775A9E7442416637D03D00552
First u mask nr:              17
First uv:                     00000001
Volume Unique Key:            61B6A65446D6F1AF353F5F7AF7E546D6
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID):  2CCC522CE0C26F04F4015FFF9D3EE9D4E80DA43D

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 05:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by PepsiLee2001

fetchvid 0.21 testing result.

OS : WinXP SP2
BD Drive : LiteOn LH-2B1S
blu-ray disc : 2007 DTS-HD Master Audio Presentation Disc

default argument

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 1000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 20000 1
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 20000 ms
Wait until access moment: 1
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

PowerDVD 7.3 is playing normally.

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.21>fetchvid.exe m 15000 3
fetchvid v0.2.1
Note: this experimental program currently only works for drives that support just one AGID.

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 15000 ms
Wait until access moment: 3
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
AGID other than 0!: 2
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 9797 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 18563 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 3

Could not retrieve volumeid at the time specified. You should try a different time setting.

aacskeys 0.24 work fine

Code:

G:\aacskeys_v0.2.4>aacskeys m n
aacskeys v0.2.4

First C-value:                459DE09775A9E7442416637D03D00552
First u mask nr:              17
First uv:                     00000001
Volume Unique Key:            61B6A65446D6F1AF353F5F7AF7E546D6
Unit Key File Hash (DiscID):  2CCC522CE0C26F04F4015FFF9D3EE9D4E80DA43D

Ok. This clarifies it a lot.

Clearly your drive is capable of using mutiple AGIDs (which is not supported atm). I will try to see if I can make this work for these kinds of drives too.

arnezami

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 06:02

@PepsiLee2001 (or anybody else with a BD drive):

Try this new version.

fetchvid v0.2.2

Hopefully this works for drives capabale of multiple AGIDs. Basicly it shuts down the other 3 AGIDs before it begins.

arnezami

mrazzido · 24th April 2007, 06:07

good morning :-D from here..

it test it on BD in 1-2hours new disc then arrived :-D

PepsiLee2001 · 24th April 2007, 06:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnezami

@PepsiLee2001 (or anybody else with a BD drive):

Try this new version.

fetchvid v0.2.2

Hopefully this works for drives capabale of multiple AGIDs. Basicly it shuts down the other 3 AGIDs before it begins.

arnezami

fetchvid 0.2.2 still not work fine.

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.22>fetchvid.exe m 12000 2
fetchvid v0.2.2

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 11844 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 06:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by PepsiLee2001

fetchvid 0.2.2 still not work fine.

Code:

G:\fetchvid_0.22>fetchvid.exe m 12000 2
fetchvid v0.2.2

Looks like a Bluray disc
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1
AGID other than 0!: 1
Player has stopped using drive: 11844 ms
AGID other than 0!: 3
Player is accessing drive: 2

Argh. It seems PowerDVD is screwing with (eh invalidating) unused AGIDs. That kinda sucks. This is a lot harder than hoped since I now have to dynamicly account for agids.

Try this new version:

fetchvid v0.2.3

arnezami

PS. I almost have to go now

.

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 06:53

Whoops. I think I made a mistake there. Here is the hopefully working one:

fetchvid v0.2.4

This one will probably not work for HD DVD drive though.

arnezami

PS. Really have to go now

.

PepsiLee2001 · 24th April 2007, 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnezami

Whoops. I think I made a mistake there. Here is the hopefully working one:

fetchvid v0.2.4

This one will probably not work for HD DVD drive though.

0.2.4 have other problem...

Code:

E:\fetchvid_0.24>fetchvid.exe f 12000 2
fetchvid v0.2.4

Error determining drive type: assuming HD DVD
Watching the drive's AGID usage...
Current time setting: 12000 ms
Wait until access moment: 2
Start your software player now and press play if needed.
Player is accessing drive: 1

mrazzido · 24th April 2007, 10:53

sometimes the tools writes HD-DVD like pepsilee2001

and sometimes BD DISC.

i use both software (powerdvd/windvd) on my LIteon BD SATA Burner.

doenst work.

to get an ID

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 21:41

Ok. This is going to be hard and a lot of going back and forth. I need lots of feed back. So please always post a screenshot or copy paste the results. And also tell if it "hangs" and when (and when/if the player is playing etc). This might not seem like important information to you but it is to me. I'm trying to do someting with a drive it wasn't designed to do and I do not even have this drive! Thats very hard. But I believe its possible and worth the effort.

Here is a slightly better version:

fetchvid v0.2.5 (don't try this with xbox drive, won't work)

I don't quite understand why it sometimes doesn't see the MKB_RO.inf file (which is how it checks if its a bluray disc). Are there BD discs you tried that don't have that file? Anyway I've changed it so if it doesn't find this file now it will default to Bluray (instead of HD DVD). Which should solve this problem for the moment.

I've also changed the vid retrieval (earlier I only tried AGID 0 which would only work 25% of the time so this way it might look like it didn't work at all). Please try different parameters.

Awaiting your test results

.

arnezami

PS. Also: does the "Player is accessing drive: 1" come before or after the player starts (playing)?

arnezami · 24th April 2007, 22:28

@mrazzido: thanks for the feedback. I can now see your drive supports 3 AGIDs (not 4 like I assumed earlier). Later on it will have to detect this automatically. But for now I've hardwired it to try only 3.

fetcvid v0.2.6

Please test this version and report back your results.

arnezami

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Jeremy Duncan Didée Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,079	Destroying DRM is not my bag of tea. It's offensive to a person to a point that is akin to personal space. I'm not saying which person is too close to whom and who is offending whom, I'll let you figure that out. Thank you all for your time. I don't want to disturb your Nirvana Zen. __________________ When I get tired during work with dvd stuff i think of River Tamm (Summer Glau's character). And the beauty that is Serenity.

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blutach Country Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: is everything! Posts: 6,499	Please let it rest guys. Galileo2000, please observe rule 4. Now, back on topic please. Regards __________________ Les Only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media.

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arnezami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390	I guess this is the best place to put this. New version of: fetchvid v0.2 Some big changes: - Generally more sublte and cleaner so its probably more reliable - Time in ms (which is better) - Works for BluRay too! (well it should, please test) - You can examine the behaviour of your player+drive first and adjust your time setting to that. - Removed the lower/higher advise because it seemed to disrupt proper working (possibly due to interference with new player version). Basicly this is the BluRay equivalent of a Volume ID "hack". You need a working Software Player for this to work. It should work on any drive and any software player . Please test this for BD ... arnezami Last edited by arnezami; 23rd April 2007 at 21:29.

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arnezami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390	Ok. This is going to be hard and a lot of going back and forth. I need lots of feed back. So please always post a screenshot or copy paste the results. And also tell if it "hangs" and when (and when/if the player is playing etc). This might not seem like important information to you but it is to me. I'm trying to do someting with a drive it wasn't designed to do and I do not even have this drive! Thats very hard. But I believe its possible and worth the effort. Here is a slightly better version: fetchvid v0.2.5 (don't try this with xbox drive, won't work) I don't quite understand why it sometimes doesn't see the MKB_RO.inf file (which is how it checks if its a bluray disc). Are there BD discs you tried that don't have that file? Anyway I've changed it so if it doesn't find this file now it will default to Bluray (instead of HD DVD). Which should solve this problem for the moment. I've also changed the vid retrieval (earlier I only tried AGID 0 which would only work 25% of the time so this way it might look like it didn't work at all). Please try different parameters. Awaiting your test results . arnezami PS. Also: does the "Player is accessing drive: 1" come before or after the player starts (playing)? Last edited by arnezami; 24th April 2007 at 21:57.

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16th April 2007, 00:03	#202 \| Link
Geremia Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 71	BTW, regarding the LBA boundaries 0x40220 is the last LBA of disc, 00DBA9BF for kingkong changing to FFFFFFFF makes boundary checks pass. negative LBA begins at FFFFFFFF and backward first enable DF command, then plscsi.exe -v -p -x "DF 00 E3 00 04 02 20 04 02 23 FF FF" you can use iisobuster to read negative LBA sectors, but this not allow to read the system lead-in area, but it's good for any other purpose

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	Hello! does any1 checked TS-L802A notebook hd dvd drive . is there the same firmware bug availble? i upload two firmwares (-bin) file CLICK DL

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awhitehead Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 185	Geremia, you were talking about laser power and pit sizes earlier, so maybe you know.... (If anyone else knows, feel free to jump in) Here is my situation: I have an HD-DVD disk, that is readable in one HD-DVD drive (Toshiba SD-S802A), and not readable in another HD-DVD drive (NEC HR-1100A). Other HD-DVD disks are read by both. When I say "not readable", I don't mean "not playable by software", etc, I mean that one ODD can read the bytes on disk and the other one can't I verified sending the following CDBs to the drive using plscsi: plscsi -v -x "25 00 00:00:00:00 00 00:00 00" -i 8 (READ CAPACITY) plscsi -v -x "28 00 00:00:00:10 00 00:01 00" -i x800 (READ(10) 2048 bytes of the disk starting at address 16 (should be first block on disk)) Toshiba returns valid data, NEC returns AE's. Is this a problem due to laser power? Bad mastering? Something else? The title in question is French release of "Stalingrad" ("Enemy at the Gates") by Fox Pathe/Studio Canal. It doesn't have AACS encryption on the disk, and BCA is full of 00s.

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arnezami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390	@PepsiLee2001 (or anybody else with a BD drive): Try this new version. fetchvid v0.2.2 Hopefully this works for drives capabale of multiple AGIDs. Basicly it shuts down the other 3 AGIDs before it begins. arnezami

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	good morning :-D from here.. it test it on BD in 1-2hours new disc then arrived :-D

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arnezami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390	Whoops. I think I made a mistake there. Here is the hopefully working one: fetchvid v0.2.4 This one will probably not work for HD DVD drive though. arnezami PS. Really have to go now .

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mrazzido Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 114	sometimes the tools writes HD-DVD like pepsilee2001 and sometimes BD DISC. i use both software (powerdvd/windvd) on my LIteon BD SATA Burner. doenst work. to get an ID

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arnezami Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 390	@mrazzido: thanks for the feedback. I can now see your drive supports 3 AGIDs (not 4 like I assumed earlier). Later on it will have to detect this automatically. But for now I've hardwired it to try only 3. fetcvid v0.2.6 Please test this version and report back your results. arnezami