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7th June 2015, 21:02 | #30822 | Link |
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I don't have the option either (GeForce driver version 353.06). I think the monitor has to advertise that it supports 10-bit input, otherwise the driver just won't list 10-bit output as an option.
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7th June 2015, 21:06 | #30823 | Link |
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Its in Display -> Change Resolution, on the bottom of the page
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7th June 2015, 21:09 | #30825 | Link |
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You need a very recent driver, 352.86 at least, AFAIK.
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I've toned my preset down to medium for HQ content after seeing the high removing "a lot" of detail on LQ content.
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Where as Shiandow's blurs out more and ignores preservation of edges/rough detail. As in it removes more more easily, which is fine for LQ content where it softens the rough detail on gradients/textures. Quote:
I use Madshi High + Shiandow 1.00/0.01+grain for LQ content (SD, DVD, ...). 480p preset: Code:
if (deintFps > 31) or (srcWidth > 2100) or (srcHeight > 1200) "2160p" else if (srcWidth > 1400) or (srcHeight > 800) "1080p" else if (srcWidth > 800) or (srcHeight > 600) "720p" else "480p" Shiandow 1.00/1.00 removes maximum but starts to also remove useful detail with large radius like facial features, so having the margin minimum ensures the removal is done only at small radius, at least that's how I see it. Don't know why such a useful post-processing is suddenly removed soon after it was added. I'm keeping v0.88.10 for sure. As you can see above, Madshi's does pretty much nothing on rough LQ content even at High, but Shiandow serves nicely to "wash" the image, which true removes a bit of contrast but the rough detail is reduced as much as you like. As long as margin is minimal it's not that crazy with altering features of faces and objects. Last edited by JackCY; 7th June 2015 at 21:42. |
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NEDI is also nice enough to take care of chroma while it's at it so we got winning combos here IMHO. I haven't truly experimented with SR on chroma yet, though but last time I tried I didn't seem to like it. Quote:
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I currently really like the "non-double defaults" with a sharpness of 28, 29 being too sharp and 27 too soft. I tried to increase the number of passes to 4 but didn't see much improvement, OTOH 2 didn't look nearly as good. I haven't run extensive tests with the other SR settings, hopefully they won't be disappearing anytime soon Quote:
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Some ppl will be using J3AR/CC AR LL coz they can, others will go cheaper and will need to increase sharpness afterwards. It makes no sense to me to be forced to enable a sharpening filter when you got the SR sharpness knob......if you somehow manage to make up your mind on presets, please also allow us to input our own settings be it via registry, a folder in mVR's folders or just a simple "expert settings" box. I would also like to try SR on 1080p if any possible? I like how it sharpens motion blur. It would be great if it wasn't tied to upscaling IMHO as it mostly acts as a "deshaker" if I got it right? Last edited by leeperry; 8th June 2015 at 03:21. |
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7th June 2015, 22:04 | #30834 | Link |
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It's available. I'm on W7 64 with 353.06. My GTX 960 is connected via HDMI with an old LG L246WH and a 40' Philips full HD HDTV. On both displays I have that option(8/12bit, full/limited RGB/YCbCr). Of course only 8 bit option available for those displays(both are not 10 bit capable).
Althouth on other set up,GT 640 connected with DVI to a Samasung 23 SyncMaster 2333T that option is not available. Same driver. Last edited by edigee; 7th June 2015 at 22:07. |
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not sure what you try to achieve there to my eyes you are simply removing as much details as possible. |
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I'm doing some testing with SuperRes on 288p low-quality videos.
First I wanted to see what difference the upscaling algorithm made with SuperRes. Jinc3+AR looks great. Bicubic still look good but slighly less. NEDI doubling + SuperRes, however, looks best! Then, "High" quality makes blocking and artifacts more visible. Interestingly enough, "NEDI defaults" at high (2 passes) looks nearly identical to "non-double defaults" at medium (3 passes)! With NEDI, 1 pass @ "NEDI defaults" does look better than 1 pass @ "non-double defaults" With NEDI + 1 pass @ "NEDI defaults", upscaling with Jinc3+AR gives a weird distortion... Bicubic actually does a better job here! NEDI+Jinc looks more blurry than Jinc alone, but NEDI+Bicubic+SuperRes looks best. With "NEDI defaults", instead of 2 passes, I can do 1 pass and increase strength from .65 to .75 and get almost the exact same result. Since SuperRes is expensive to run, you might want to do defaults for 1 passes. Now... as to whether .65 or .75 is better is up for debate. .75 does make blocking and artifacts more visible... I'd opt for in-between, .70. I prefer this over the 2-passes default. Activating LumaSharpen has a very subtle effect but it looks nice. Activating FineSharp makes the artifacts stand out and makes the video look "cartoonish", I leave that off. Overall, best setting is: NEDI Doubling + Bicubic(75)+AR + SuperRes NEDI defaults but 1 pass strength .70 medium quality + LumaSharpen Rendering time: 10.5ms for 288p on 768p Second best setting is: Jinc+AR + LumaSharpen Rendering time: 9.7ms for 288p on 768p
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Here are more tests on a 480p video on 768p display.
Here, NEDI is too expensive to run... Option 1: Bicubic(75)+AR + SuperRes defaults 2 passes Rendering time: 14.4ms Option 2: Jinc+AR Rendering time: 12.3ms Results are VERY close... but Jinc+AR looks slightly more natural. Conclusion: NEDI+Bicubic+SuperRes is a very powerful combination, but if you can't run NEDI, it's not worth trading Jinc for SuperRes.
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7th June 2015, 23:49 | #30840 | Link |
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LOL! That is exactly the same content I used to test Shiandow's debanding and all other madVR features as far as Low / Medium Quality content goes. I disagree though. I sit about 8 feet away from my 40" 1080p HDTV and with my settings + 12bit color depth on my HDTV, the result is much better with madVR de-banding because it leaves enough detail to see the outline of black/dark parts of the image. For example, Captain/Major/Kernel Samantha Carter often wears black tops. With madVR's debanding set to Medium on top and High on bottom, I can see the outline of her boobies when she wears a black top, but with Shiandow's, her chest looks flat and un-sexish. Sure that detail is quite LQ, but as long as you use the highest quality settings and sit reasonably far enough away, madVR's debanding does an excellent job. Regarding new features. SuperRes is definitely here to stay! I figured that LumaSharpen for Upscaling does very little, but for Image Enhancement it does quite a lot at its default setting. The same exact content I talked about above (SMPTE 170M) looks a bit too sharp with default Image Enhancement LumaSharpen values. I decrease strength to 0.50 and clam to 0.30 and its much better! You know, sometimes I wonder if madVR does too much when it tries to improve image quality. The original film image, when played with WMP without madVR rendering, using only LAV decoders looks sharper than madVR's image without LumaSharpen. However, vanilla image also has banding, artifacts, pixelation, etc. madVR HQ rendering settings fix all those vanilla issues and leave the image soft. Then LumaSharpen offsets the softness, but the end image looks both - 1. better IMO and 2. different from the original. The original/vanilla image sharpness looks more natural than madVR + LumaSharpen. I have not been able to restore that vanilla sharpness with any madVR settings. I need to figure out how to create side by side comparisons shots using different madVR settings. Otherwise its hard to backup what I am saying... |
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