BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[MrVideo]

So, I thought I would try something else. The disc's 2nd audio stream is a descriptive track. Therefore the plan was to replace the 2nd stream with a DD5.1 stream that doesn't have Cinavia. While BDRB ws recoding the video, I replaced the audio stream in the workfiles directory. It has the same PID as the file that was replaced.

After BDRB was finished, I used BDEdit to fix the chapter marks and remove the listing of audio streams that are not there.

The disc refuses to let the player select the audio stream by pushing the "Audio" button. Even if you use the menu to select the descriptive track, only the TrueHD track is played.

No idea why the DD5.1 track can't be played.

Update: I took the M2TS file that BDRB created and fed it to tsMuxer. I had it create a BD ISO. That played just fine, allowing me to switch between audio tracks.

As this is a UHD disc, there are no special features, so I'll just use BDRB to create a disc with a simple menu.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally Posted by MrVideo

The Dolby TrueHD streams are with core.

Dolby TrueHD audio streams can be encoded with or without a 'lossy' Dolby Digital core. But just as with Dolby Digital Plus, a 'lossy' Dolby Digital core is a mandatory requirement of the Blu-ray disc specification.

[MrVideo]

Right. My response was because it was thought that the stream I had was without a core, and in this case it wasn't.

[MrVideo]

Well, creating a UHD disc with a simple menu is currently a bust. It is because of the issue whereby BDRB wants to re-encode TrueHD audio to plain AC3 audio, even though the Keep HD audio is set to 1. Plus, the re-encode AC3 is set to 0.

[AmigaFuture]

Hello All, Happy Yuletide.

I've noticed this problem with several BDs...some of I've processed a long time ago, so I reripped my originals to check. The processing (blanking) part seems to go fine. It's when I have BD-RB make MKVs from the processed BD that this error happens. There's an "Error: -2" that happens with some. I've reripped with MakeMKV and DVDFab..doesn't matter which one.

[12/25/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.25
[16:59:50] Source:  NORTH_SHORE
  - Input BD size: 29.84 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:17:35.638]
  - Target BD size: 46.26 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: Very Good (Very Fast), 1-Pass VBR
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:59:50] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [16:59:50] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 6)
 - [16:59:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [16:59:53] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
 - [16:59:53] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [16:59:53] Processing audio tracks
 - [16:59:53] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [16:59:57] Blanking: VID_00001 (2 of 6)
 - [16:59:57] Blanking: VID_00002 (3 of 6)
 - [16:59:57] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 6)
 - [16:59:57] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
 - [17:07:27] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
 - [17:07:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [17:07:27] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [17:07:27] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:28:26] Blanking: VID_00007 (5 of 6)
 - [17:28:26] Processing: VID_00010 (6 of 6)
 - [17:28:26] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
 - [17:28:30] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
 - [17:28:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [17:28:30] Processing audio tracks
 - [17:28:30] Multiplexing M2TS
[17:28:33]PHASE ONE complete
[17:28:33]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [17:28:33] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[17:29:00] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[17:29:00] JOB: NORTH_SHORE finished.
[12/25/21] Checking System Settings
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[12/25/21] BD Rebuilder v0.61.25 
[17:30:30] Source:  NORTH_SHORE_00004
  - Input BD size: 27.31 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:35:52.663]
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: MKV, Intact Video, Intact Audio
  - Quality: High Quality (Default)
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[17:30:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [17:30:34] Processing: VID_00010 (1 of 3)
 - [17:30:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
EXIT CODE: -2
   - Extracting video streams [VID_00010]
   - Extracting audio/subtitle streams [VID_00010]
EXIT CODE: -2
 - Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: L:\NORTH_SHORE\BDMV\\STREAM\00010.m2ts
   - Extracting audio streams [VID_00010]
EXIT CODE: -2
 - Error in attempt to extract audio.
 - Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: L:\NORTH_SHORE\BDMV\\STREAM\00010.m2ts
 - Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: L:\NORTH_SHORE\BDMV\\STREAM\00010.m2ts
[18:10:12] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Options]
VERSION=0.61.0.25
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=0
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=47366
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=28
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALT_CRF_TARGET=1024
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=L:\NORTH_SHORE\
WORKING_PATH=L:\

Any ideas? I've also checked my storage HDDs and they're in good shape.

[AmigaFuture]

Oops...it's having problems creating an MKV from a fresh rip also.

[gonca]

MrVideo
Can you not encode the video(s) outside of BDRB?
If yes, then use tsMuxeR to create seperate BDs (each video/audio file)
BDRB can the import them and create a folder structure with a menu

[MrVideo]

Originally Posted by gonca

Can you not encode the video(s) outside of BDRB?

No. Not set up for H265 encoding. I suspose I could use VideoReDoPro to do it, but it would be a guess as to what to configure it for in order to come out with the right size. Also, it would be a software encoding and therefore take a coon's age to do it.

If yes, then use tsMuxeR to create seperate BDs (each video/audio file) BDRB can the import them and create a folder structure with a menu

I'm not sure how that would help. BDRB extracts the video and audio streams. It then wants to recode the TrueHD to plain ole AC3.

[gonca]

I use the approach I described and it never re-encodes my thd files.
It just demuxes and remuxes them

You can always try x264 launcher (it does hevc as well)
It will enter the basic settings for you but you can enter all the custom command switches you want
If you have a feature capable NVidia card you can use NVEncc

[Lowpro]

Originally Posted by gonca

Can you not encode the video(s) outside of BDRB? If yes, then use tsMuxeR to create seperate BDs (each video/audio file) BDRB can the import them and create a folder structure with a menu.

Originally Posted by MrVideo

I'm not sure how that would help. BDRB extracts the video and audio streams. It then wants to recode the TrueHD to plain ole AC3.

BD Rebuilder does the same if I import content containing EAC3 audio. To retain the EAC3 audio I first extract a copy of the audio from the content I'm working with for use later. I then use multiAVCHD to create a Blu-ray without a Blu-ray menu. When building the Blu-ray I don't include the audio. I then import the resulting Blu-ray to BD Rebuilder creating the Blu-ray menu. Once testing to ensure the Blu-ray menu is good to go I re-author the Blu-ray using multiAVCHD adding the audio back in addition to adding subtitles and updating the chapter stops if needed.

[MrVideo]

I just did a backup of a UHD and even though the meta file was set to do chapters every 5 minutes, the playlist had the original chapter marks.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by MrVideo

Well, creating a UHD disc with a simple menu is currently a bust. It is because of the issue whereby BDRB wants to re-encode TrueHD audio to plain AC3 audio, even though the Keep HD audio is set to 1. Plus, the re-encode AC3 is set to 0.

Your statement misrepresents the facts. It isn't an "issue" for BDRB to insist that your audio meets the BD standard. The "Keep HD" flag doesn't bypass the need to meet BD requirements.

I've personally created dozens of UHD discs using BD-RB, many with TrueHD. So I wouldn't say "creating a UHD disc with a simple menu is currently a bust" would be an accurate statement either.

Trying to push for something you want by making misleading statements doesn't work with me. So the concept of creating a hidden flag to keep EAC3 streams is off the table. It was a bad idea anyway.

[videoh]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Trying to push for something you want by making misleading statements doesn't work with me.

You should show more respect to your users. Without them, you are nothing.

[CV91913]

Originally Posted by videoh

You should show more respect to your users. Without them, you are nothing.

No, users should show more respect for the developer. JDobbs has worked on this "beta" software for years for FREE. I am guessing he has spent far more making changes that users request or fixing problems than he has made from donations.

Some are just lucky he has mellowed with age. In the old days...strikes may have rained down.

[videoh]

Strike for what? Offering some friendly advice?

[MrVideo]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Your statement misrepresents the facts. It isn't an "issue" for BDRB to insist that your audio meets the BD standard. The "Keep HD" flag doesn't bypass the need to meet BD requirements.

The TrueHD audio is just that, TrueHD audio, not EAC3 audio. I have no idea where you got the idea that this was about EAC3 audio. It isn't.

Here is the MediaInfo about the TrueHD stream:

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 1 h 56 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 8 229 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 532 MiB (3%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 11
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE

I've personally created dozens of UHD discs using BD-RB, many with TrueHD. So I wouldn't say "creating a UHD disc with a simple menu is currently a bust" would be an accurate statement either.

I originally took the UHD structure and let BDRB do a backup of it. I was then going to take that backup and replace one of the AC3 audio streams with a different audio stream. No matter what I tried, including using BDEdit (0.49), I could not get the result to play. There are posts about it.

Since this UHD disc doesn't have any special features (most don't), I decided to create a simple menu of the M2TS file. First I put the M2TS file into tsMuxer so that I could get rid of unwanted audio and sub-title streams and add in the wanted audio stream. I also had to set the language for the audio and subtitles. I created a project for this job:

[Options]
VERSION=0.61.0.25
ENCODER=1
MODE=0
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=0
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=1
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=2
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=2
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=4
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
MENU_BACKGROUND=E:\BD-Rebuilder\Passengers\Passengers-bkg.jpg
IMPORT_THRESHOLD=0
QUICK_PLAY_THRESHOLD=0
MENU_AUTO_BACKGROUND=0
MENU_AUTO_DVDAUDIO=1
MENU_FORCE_QUICK=1
MENU_PLAY_SEQUENTIAL=0
MENU_START_WITH_MENU=1
IMPORT_LIMIT_LANG=0
IMPORT_KEEP_PLAYALL=0
IMPORT_VFR_SCAN=0
FORCE_NOENCODE=0
MENU_FONT=Helvetica
MENU_FONT_BOLD=1
MENU_FONT_ITALIC=0
MENU_VERTICAL=850
MENU_HORIZONTAL=850
MENU_ACTIVE_COLOR=0xCFCFCF
MENU_CUSTOM_COLOR=
MENU_INACTIVE_COLOR=0x808080
MENU_BACKDROP_OPACITY=0
MENU_ROLLOVER=1
MENU_ITEMS_PAGE=10,12
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
IMPORT_VFR_FILM=0
AVSFilter01=selectevery(2,0)
IMPORT_PREPARE_MKV=0
UHD_CONVERT_ENABLE=1
UHD_V3_MODE=1
NVENC_CAPABLE=1
MIN_M2TS_SIZE=600
MENU_AUDIO=C:\BD_Rebuilder-0.61.25\tools\blankclip\blank.ac3
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=E:\BD-REBUILDER\WORK\
SOURCE_PATH=E:\BD-REBUILDER\WORK\IMPORTS\00001.\
DGIndexNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGAVCDecNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Program Files (x86)\DGAVCDecNV\DGDecodeNV.dll

This is the result of running the job:

[20:43:09] Importing: 00001.
- [20:43:21] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
  - Preparing M2TS for processing...
  - Collecting audio/video streams from source...
  - Converting audio, Track #2, THD to AC3...
  - Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
- [21:08:30] Creating Quick-Play Menu...
   - Encoding menu background...
   - Building menu structure...
[21:08:33] Video import completed successfully.

Notice the converting audio line. Didn't another user also have this issue? I'd have to go back thru a lot of posts to fine it. Either way, I'm not making this up. Oh, and the converted audio was also mono, which I do remember as being an issue for another user.

In order to make sure that tsMuxer didn't screw something up, I ran the original M2TS file thru the same project and got:

[21:14:06] Importing: 00001.
- [21:14:25] Importing video file: (1 of 1)
  - Preparing M2TS for processing...
  - Collecting audio/video streams from source...
  - Converting audio, Track #2, THD to AC3...
  - Integrating into pseudo-BD structure...
EXIT CODE: -1
    - Source issue found, attempting correction...
[22:35:19]ERROR: Removing compression.  Aborted.

I have no clue as to what it did not like. I guess using tsMuxer made the file more likable by BDRB. No mater, since the TrueHD file was also converted by BDRB.

So, for me, it was indeed a bust.

Trying to push for something you want by making misleading statements doesn't work with me. So the concept of creating a hidden flag to keep EAC3 streams is off the table. It was a bad idea anyway.

As can be seen, there were no misleading statements and there was nothing regarding EAC3 with this issue. I do not appreciate turning this into something that it isn't. Saying that you'll take away something that wasn't my fault isn't very nice either.

[gonca]

As I have said before, I never had my audio re-encoded on an import to create a simple menu.
Might be something specific to your system.

[MrVideo]

Originally Posted by gonca

As I have said before, I never had my audio re-encoded on an import to create a simple menu.
Might be something specific to your system.

I do not see how anything on my system could be so specific that it would tell BDRB to re-encode TrueHD audio when importing a M2TS file. UHD or 1080p?

You can see my config file. I do File->Video Files->M2TS file

It would take a special compile of the program so that it listed in the log file as to the choice(s) it took to decide to recode the audio.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by videoh

You should show more respect to your users. Without them, you are nothing.

Coming from you, that's hilarious. Maybe you forget that I was on this site when you were a moderator.

With that said... what am I going to lose -- my virtually non-existent income (all of which gets spent [acually more] to buy discs that people report they have issues with)? I don't do this for any reason other than to help people back up their discs. Smart ass comments and complaints from those who use it are just a sign of modern times, I guess.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by CV91913

No, users should show more respect for the developer. JDobbs has worked on this "beta" software for years for FREE. I am guessing he has spent far more making changes that users request or fixing problems than he has made from donations.

Some are just lucky he has mellowed with age. In the old days...strikes may have rained down.

Much, much more.